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« Reply #120 on: June 29, 2004, 08:39:21 AM »

Oops.  It doesn't say Traci at all.  

But it does say AXL capitalized for some reason.

On another note, is this gem going to be considered a rare item because it's actually not legal as it never had Axl's consent so he'll sue? Undecided
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« Reply #121 on: June 29, 2004, 08:51:09 AM »

Sounds like a great CD!

Hope I can get it here in Sydney!
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« Reply #122 on: June 29, 2004, 12:40:28 PM »

Okay, I figured out why they have it as all songs by AXL Rose, Izzy Stradlin, Chris Weber.

If you read the Vicky Hamilton Story inside, the band was called A.X.L.

This CD is awesome.  Go buy it if you don't have it.  A must for all Guns fans.  Everytime I read the insert and the story by Vicky and see the pictures, it's like I am back in 1980s again  Wink
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« Reply #123 on: June 29, 2004, 02:01:31 PM »

According to play.com, the UK should get it on July 5th now:

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?searchtype=cdartist&searchstring=Hollywood+Rose&page=search
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« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2004, 12:51:08 PM »

"The Roots of Guns N' Roses", a collection of the very first demos recorded by Axl Rose and Izzy Stradlin before they became GUNS N' ROSES, premiered with a paltry 1,891 copies.


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How many % of the sales came from people on this board? Wink



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« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2004, 02:29:04 PM »

I also just wanted to post that Jarmo.

I was kinda shocked. What the fuck is going on???
QA lame assed Greatest Hits compilation sells the fuck outta everything. VRs album, an album by a sidekick band so to say, which isn't overwhelming (at leat if you have an objective look /listen) sells nearly as much.
And this one only sells 1900?? What the hell?

Everybody is complaining all the time that CD doesn't come. And now that there is an amazing album to shorten the time until cd, an album that includes two unreleased songs and which REALLY kicks ass in its entirety (in opposite to the other stuff that was released this year) - nobody is buying it.

I just can't understand that.


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« Reply #126 on: June 30, 2004, 04:01:17 PM »

Also remember that these tracks are available via other avenues ( music downloading, compilations). Further, people may have a hard time justifying buying something that is the same 5 tracks remixed.
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« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2004, 04:20:06 PM »

Also remember that these tracks are available via other avenues ( music downloading, compilations). Further, people may have a hard time justifying buying something that is the same 5 tracks remixed.

The versions on here have a far better quality than those on the net.

And: The songs on GH were not only available via other sources. Everyone on here for sure had multiple versions of all these songs, even though nearly everyone bought that shit. So why not buy something that is really worth it?


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« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2004, 04:27:41 PM »

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And: The songs on GH were not even available via other sources. Everyone on here for sure had multiple versions of all these songs, even though nearly everyone bought that shit. So why not buy something that is really worth it?

I can't answer that. I bought HR and absolutley love it. I do think that most of the people who bought GH are casual music fans and not hardcore GNR fans, who may not be interested in any pre-GNR era stuff.
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« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2004, 05:31:38 PM »

I think GH sold so well because a new group of teenagers heard maybe SCOM or WTTJ or PC or NR on the radio or at a dance for the last few years and when they get a chance to have a so called GH they go out and get it. US THE HARDCORE have all the songs but we buy it for the pictures, the inserts and because its something new. I think the no pub. and the high price scared away the casual listener. Maybe if the company putting out HR could of gotten a law suit with AXL in the news it would of helped, but to spend $15 on 5 songs is alot. I bought the cd, but I wouldnt recommend it to my friends. I told them Id give them a free copy. $3 a song is alot (I'm not counting the remixes they really are pointless)
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« Reply #130 on: July 02, 2004, 02:51:40 PM »

Axl and Izzy look adorable in that old picture.  I hadn't seen that one before.  I will probably buy this CD.  How good is Vicky Hamilton's story, does she give other interesting tidbits?  
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« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2004, 12:54:03 PM »

Hey guys!!! I have the new Hollywood Rose album. I've listened to it a bunch since I got in almost a week ago.

The first 5 tracks are the original 5 tracks by Hollywood Rose and GUns N" Roses

3 of the tracks are Guns N' Roses tracks from the early days and 2 of them are with Izzy, Axl, Weber, ect.

The oringal tracks are really the original with the "take 1 My Way Your Way"  before Anything Goes. THe vocals seem to be in the background too much, but these are raw, cheap recordings. I like them, so rock on.

Gilby remixed the next 5 and Tracii Guns is on the last 2 tracks on this set of 5.

Then Fred Coury just remixed the songs around to what he figured sounded cool.

It is just 5 songs copied 2 more times to make 15 tracks. I don't recommend the album to anyone that isn't die hard.

It isn't a great album obviously. It is okay. I like the Gilby remixes with Tracii's overdubs over Slash's guitar, very nice.

HR- 3/5
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« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2004, 01:01:25 PM »



It isn't a great album obviously. It is okay. I like the Gilby remixes with Tracii's overdubs over Slash's guitar, very nice.



Oh dear - i'd take your version back if it has Slash on it - u see he was never in Hollywood Rose hihi
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« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2004, 01:12:59 PM »

Well 3 of the songs read HUdson/Rose/Stradlin/ ect

So that means they either wrote the music or lyrics and I know that 4 people didn't write Shadow of Your Love....

Sucks to be a fool doesn't it? Yeah I thought so.

Saul Hudson is featured on 3 of the 5 original tracks... sorry. That is what is says.
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« Reply #134 on: July 08, 2004, 01:42:28 PM »

Well 3 of the songs read HUdson/Rose/Stradlin/ ect

So that means they either wrote the music or lyrics and I know that 4 people didn't write Shadow of Your Love....

Sucks to be a fool doesn't it? Yeah I thought so.

Saul Hudson is featured on 3 of the 5 original tracks... sorry. That is what is says.


no no no no no....  no no

"All songs performed by AXL Rose, Izzy Stradlin, Chris Weber, and Johnny Kreis. Recorded Janyary of 1984 in Hollywood, California."

the only reason slash's name is on the others is because he is credited with them for copyright reasons, as they were officially released first on GNR's albums/singles. He didn't play on these versions. i dont think he even knew axl in 1984.
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« Reply #135 on: July 08, 2004, 01:59:48 PM »

Well 3 of the songs read HUdson/Rose/Stradlin/ ect

So that means they either wrote the music or lyrics and I know that 4 people didn't write Shadow of Your Love....

Sucks to be a fool doesn't it? Yeah I thought so.

Saul Hudson is featured on 3 of the 5 original tracks... sorry. That is what is says.


no no no no no....  no no

"All songs performed by AXL Rose, Izzy Stradlin, Chris Weber, and Johnny Kreis. Recorded Janyary of 1984 in Hollywood, California."

the only reason slash's name is on the others is because he is credited with them for copyright reasons, as they were officially released first on GNR's albums/singles. He didn't play on these versions. i dont think he even knew axl in 1984.

thanks man... my bad...
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« Reply #136 on: July 09, 2004, 12:30:20 AM »

I like the originals, the remixs are mainly bad except for 1 where they turned up the vocal mix, but i could do without the other 9 remixes
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« Reply #137 on: August 11, 2004, 05:02:02 AM »

I just got this album.

I like the originals, they rock...didn't care much for the Gilby Clarke mixes...but I liked the Cinderella mixes with the double bass drumming! I would have liked to see a couple more of the originals...maybe the faster version of Back off Bitch which I think would have fitted nicely (I didn't like that they slowed down this song for the UYI)

I hope Axl does plenty of fast songs for the new record...

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« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2004, 03:26:50 PM »

I just got this album.

I like the originals, they rock...didn't care much for the Gilby Clarke mixes...but I liked the Cinderella mixes with the double bass drumming! I would have liked to see a couple more of the originals...maybe the faster version of Back off Bitch which I think would have fitted nicely (I didn't like that they slowed down this song for the UYI)

I hope Axl does plenty of fast songs for the new record...



It's a great album - does thingy from Cinderalla redo the drums entirely cos it certainly seems like he has

Gilby + Tracii's Shadow of Your love was worth the price and the 6 week delay alone!
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« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2004, 09:38:52 PM »

It is $13-$14 for 5 songs. They are ok. Interesting how they changed. But the remixes are a waste of time. Nothing interesting there and certainly not needed. Just an excuse to jack up the price so they can charge for a "full" CD.
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