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« on: September 17, 2004, 04:07:59 PM »

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=562537

He said: "... It's a more talented band that we have now, much more talented than Guns ever was. There were Guns nights where it was magic, but we were fucked up half the time. No, 99 per cent of the time. As players we weren't really maximising our potential. So, as far as aggression and talent are concerned, this is a much better band. I don't know if another band will ever achieve the kind of world domination Guns N' Roses managed. But if they do, it's going to be us."
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 04:10:12 PM »

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=562537

He said: "... It's a more talented band that we have now, much more talented than Guns ever was. There were Guns nights where it was magic, but we were fucked up half the time. No, 99 per cent of the time. As players we weren't really maximising our potential. So, as far as aggression and talent are concerned, this is a much better band. I don't know if another band will ever achieve the kind of world domination Guns N' Roses managed. But if they do, it's going to be us."


Utter bullshit

VR are great but they struggle to compete with even GNR's average material

Also...isn't this just another vr vs GNR debate - its been trodden into the ground, some people prefer VR (yet visit a GNR board Huh) and most of us prefer GNR.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2004, 04:11:53 PM »

I feel embarrased for him being quoted saying something so silly.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2004, 04:14:36 PM »

that is rubbish.. just because you're fucked up, doesn't mean you don't have talent, or enough talent.

and i'm sorry but i think that talent was clearly displayed in the studio and on stage, so whatthefuckever.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2004, 04:15:49 PM »

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/interviews/story.jsp?story=562537

He said: "... It's a more talented band that we have now, much more talented than Guns ever was. There were Guns nights where it was magic, but we were fucked up half the time. No, 99 per cent of the time. As players we weren't really maximising our potential. So, as far as aggression and talent are concerned, this is a much better band. I don't know if another band will ever achieve the kind of world domination Guns N' Roses managed. But if they do, it's going to be us."


Utter bullshit

VR are great but they struggle to compete with even GNR's average material

Also...isn't this just another vr vs GNR debate - its been trodden into the ground, some people prefer VR (yet visit a GNR board Huh) and most of us prefer GNR.

Actually no, its duff claiming VR are better than the old guns n roses not the new band.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2004, 04:15:53 PM »

I love Duff, but he is really out there on that one. Its really sad if thats the way they are thinking. No wonder they couldn't see Axl's vision!!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2004, 04:17:41 PM »

Correction:

IF another band does it it AND THEY WILL - it will be the new GnR Chinese Democracy
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2004, 04:21:02 PM »

i can't believe i told this ass hole i was his fan and shook his hand...this is bullshit. VR suck. i saw them and it was such an average show from 3 guys that used to be in a great band. sure duff is playing better. but i wouldn't trade GN'R for VR ever. and they're not that talented. their cd is not even in my top 10 cds right now and it wasn't when i first bought it either... jeez how could someone that used to be so cool like Duff say this amount of bullshit... i liked them better when they were on drugs. it stoped them from saying BS like this.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2004, 04:22:53 PM »

if Duff said that, I'm really desapointed by him. He seems to reny his glory past with GN'R. It's sad that what used to be the biggest Rock band in the world in the late 80's/early 90's, sudenly has turned into a war between bandmembers.?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2004, 04:24:51 PM »

Why do you all always have to whine like a bunch of babies? Duff, isn't insulting Axl or his new band. If he is insulting anyone, he is insulting the band he was a part of, but it's not even an insult! As much as I love VR, I don't think they will ever live to the old band's magic so I will disagree with him there. However, I have no problem with what he is saying because in his opinion the old band were too fucked up on drugs to maximize their talent like they are able to do now. What the hell is wrong with that statement?
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2004, 04:27:26 PM »

What the hell is wrong with that statement?

he's underestimating the brilliant monster that was guns n' fucking roses.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2004, 04:30:01 PM »

Why do you all always have to whine like a bunch of babies? Duff, isn't insulting Axl or his new band. If he is insulting anyone, he is insulting the band he was a part of, but it's not even an insult! As much as I love VR, I don't think they will ever live to the old band's magic so I will disagree with him there. However, I have no problem with what he is saying because in his opinion the old band were too fucked up on drugs to maximize their talent like they are able to do now. What the hell is wrong with that statement?

Who said that Duff is insulting the new band? This thread is talking about how duff thinks VR is better than the orginal gnr that he was apart of.

Who brought up duff is bashing axl and the new band in this thread? NOONE, why do the gnr bar people keep coming here to troll and make the threads off topic?
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2004, 04:33:01 PM »

Why do you all always have to whine like a bunch of babies? Duff, isn't insulting Axl or his new band. If he is insulting anyone, he is insulting the band he was a part of, but it's not even an insult! As much as I love VR, I don't think they will ever live to the old band's magic so I will disagree with him there. However, I have no problem with what he is saying because in his opinion the old band were too fucked up on drugs to maximize their talent like they are able to do now.

I agree with you and disagree with Duff, although I think he can find more pleasure and joy playing in VR than he had playing in GN'R.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2004, 04:33:05 PM »

i like VR and contraband is an above average to good cd but i think they played better fucked up cause the solo's,songs,bass lines,riffs,lyrics,vocals,drums etc etc etc were all 10 times better than anything on CB. However DUff couldve meant live they are better than old gnr, that he and slash play better live now than they did then.? On that its possible i suppose meaning strictly his and slash's live ability.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 04:38:15 PM »

I do agree with D somewhat in what he was saying that Duff thinks he, Slash and Matt....even a clean Scott now, are at the top of their game that they have all left drugs behind. They will never be what GNR was and that statement is a little out there, but what do you people think he is gonna say, "that he is in a second rate band now?" If he really thought that there would be no point to playing or recording. More power to all of them that they are clean, happy and making music. If Duff thinks that makes them better than old GNR, who cares. They're not, we know they're not, and I think deep down he knows they're not.....but again, is he supposed to tell that to the general public? That wouldn't look too good.
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2004, 04:39:11 PM »

The idea of VR some day being bigger than GNR used to be is just laughable.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2004, 04:39:45 PM »

I do agree with D somewhat in what he was saying that Duff thinks he, Slash and Matt....even a clean Scott now, are at the top of their game that they have all left drugs behind. They will never be what GNR was and that statement is a little out there, but what do you people think he is gonna say, "that he is in a second rate band now?" If he really thought that there would be no point to playing or recording. More power to all of them that they are clean, happy and making music. If Duff thinks that makes them better than old GNR, who cares. They're not, we know they're not, and I think deep down he knows they're not.....but again, is he supposed to tell that to the general public? That wouldn't look too good.

No you dont say anything about what band is better.  He just has to say guns n roses when I was in it was great, and now I am in VR and this is my best work post gnr.

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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2004, 04:44:42 PM »

Oh my god!!! How can he say that?  How dare he?  My weekend is ruined now!!!  I am so pissed off.  This is an insult to me.  He plays better sober than fu$ked up, NO WAY!!!!  He isn't allowed to say that!!

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2004, 04:48:58 PM »

Duff is saying what Axl has been saying for years-they were great players, but were messed up with drinking/drugs.
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2004, 04:50:21 PM »

In other words, he's saying Dave is better than Izzy and Scott is better than Axl. What-the-fuck-ever!!!  rant rant rant
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