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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2005, 02:45:56 PM »

If anyone wants to 'chat' about the demo, feel free to PM me. Especially if u havent heard it id like to give you my opinions of it.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2005, 02:49:44 PM »

Just heard it! It fucking rules!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2005, 02:50:20 PM »

Whilst the vocal melody and singing is very cool...I have to say that the basic music is very boring. I am hoping for more music along the lines of live n let die or jungle, and hoping that november rain like songs are left alone.....dont need any blurring the lines between the best rock band of all times and 70's schmaltz rock balladeering.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2005, 02:50:59 PM »

first of all I don't know how people got most of these lyrics cause its hard as hell to hear most of it cause it's such brutal quality, but it seem like a decent song, it would be nice to hear a real version.

Anyway here are my thoughts on the first bit of the song lyrics from Don't Try Me

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0:11
There's not anymore that I can do
All the legions they tell me, I follow you
So when you plead the fifth, that'll be the end of time it's true


I don't like this line it doesn't sound right

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0:27
Wouldnt be the first time I've been gone
Wouldnt be the last I sure have found
All the rumours I can tell, some things didn't work so well


I think it's

"Wouldn't be the first time I'd been wrong"
"Wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found"
"With all the rumors I can tell, Some things didn't work so well"

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0:37
When any way it's feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear the worst yet
When I need another favourite I take
It means your life will be gone anyway
I can't believe now and I lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along


I think this says

When you first told me you were gone
Somehow I'd known that I'd been here alone
? To all the luck gettin out of this wreck ?
? A fact that you've got to hear the worst yet ?
? When I need another favourite I take ?
You made up your mind, and off you went
I can't believe now how that lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

I don't know. Its really bad quality, but I think it's about the GnR Breakup and the lawsuits and shit. I know it sounds like old news but Axl hasn't really said too much about it yet so, whatever

The president is David Geffen
The private Eye is to look to see what they have on him
The IRS part is to track his income on the old material
The FBI is to see if he has a case I don't know I'm just pulling this out of my ass really

What does everyone think, Am I totally wrong?
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2005, 02:52:21 PM »

Horsey, I was right there with ya. ?It was obviously real. ?It's a kick-ass song. ?It's also a huge relief to hear Axl's vocals. ?He sounds awesome. ?Obviously, just a demo., but what fantastic potential!!!

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yes i knew it right away.no other voice like it.a bit higher but indeed axl's.
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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2005, 02:58:22 PM »

I thought it was okay. ?Maybe I was expecting a little more after a decade plus of writting. ?Plus, the lyrics are a little hokie.
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2005, 03:00:28 PM »

 I love it, don't need to explaine it, I understand it, Axl's got a hot one on his hands, I can't wait ta hear the studio version and the rest. ok     
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2005, 03:03:13 PM »

As a demo its cool...but the musicianship is somewhat bland....and if the lyrics were better (say as good as locomotive/sympathy for the devil)...then the song would be an all time classic......as is its just a good rock song that would have been just below civil war status on the Illusions

vocals sound fantastic though i must say
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2005, 03:06:47 PM »


Didn't any of you guys were nervious before listening to the track? I first downloaded the 32 sec file, then the 44sec and then the complete song. I felt like I did back 6 years ago when I first heard "Oh my God". Man, I had to listen to the track at least 3 times cause the first two I didn't know what the hell whas going on..between the excitement, the adrenaline...

Anyway, despite the quality, it's a good, solid song. I can't wait to hear the finishing product. Axl sounds great.
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2005, 03:08:00 PM »

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Gonna make this a natural case
Blow the wind up, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
With the police hang together?
And the headlines due now

I don't think that is right.

Dave posted these lyrics which still aren't right, but I think are alot closer:

Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true
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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2005, 03:11:23 PM »

0:27
Wouldnt be the first time I've been gone
Wouldnt be the last I sure have found
All the rumours I can tell, some things didn't work so well


I think it's

"Wouldn't be the first time I'd been wrong"
"Wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found"
"With all the rumors I can tell, Some things didn't work so well"


I actually think I finally got this part when I isolated the voice track a little more.? I think it's:

"Wouldn't be the first time I went wrong
Wouldn't be the last time I should've known
With all the rumors I can tell Some things didn't work well"
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2005, 03:12:02 PM »

I don't give a hell about the lyrics!!!! I just heard the song!!!!
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2005, 03:14:53 PM »

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Gonna make this a natural case
Blow the wind up, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
With the police hang together?
And the headlines due now

I don't think that is right.

Dave posted these lyrics which still aren't right, but I think are alot closer:

Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true


I've seen his set of lyrics but the first one you qouted me on was the 1:24. There axls says " natural case"
on 3:20 there axl says "federal case" like you said Smiley

However "Gonna win and knock it outta your face" I'm 99% positive axl says "gonna wave it, write that out in your face" Altho dave's line lays better in the story, it's in fact not closer then to what Axl sings.


but much remains open to discussion since this is a bad quality demo.  Cry


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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2005, 03:16:41 PM »

Im very dissapointed the whole HTGTH and GNR have teamed up conspiracy has amounted to nothing....but I knew it wouldnt and tried to warn people...hope is a bitch in the GNR world.

There's nothing I can do about that. I never "hyped" it. We moved the site to a new server, that's it.




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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2005, 03:17:50 PM »

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Gonna make this a natural case
Blow the wind up, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
With the police hang together?
And the headlines due now

I don't think that is right.

Dave posted these lyrics which still aren't right, but I think are alot closer:

Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true


I've seen his set of lyrics but the first one you qouted me on was the 1:24. There axls says " natural case"
on 3:20 there axl says "federal case" like you said Smiley

However "Gonna win and knock it outta your face" I'm 99% positive axl says "gonna wave it, write that out in your face" Altho dave's line lays better in the story, it's in fact not closer then to what Axl sings.



Ahh ok, gotcha. I stand corrected. i think the second line after federal case needs some work in both cases.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2005, 03:19:13 PM »

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Gonna make this a natural case
Blow the wind up, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
With the police hang together?
And the headlines due now

I don't think that is right.

Dave posted these lyrics which still aren't right, but I think are alot closer:

Gonna call the president
Gonna make myself a private eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna win and knock it outta your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon?
And the police hang together, and their headlines true


I've seen his set of lyrics but the first one you qouted me on was the 1:24. There axls says " natural case"
on 3:20 there axl says "federal case" like you said Smiley

However "Gonna win and knock it outta your face" I'm 99% positive axl says "gonna wave it, write that out in your face" Altho dave's line lays better in the story, it's in fact not closer then to what Axl sings.



Ahh ok, gotcha. I stand corrected. i think the second line after federal case needs some work in both cases.

true that, it's hard to tell, since his voice is high pitched too.

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2005, 03:23:25 PM »

As a demo its cool...but the musicianship is somewhat bland....and if the lyrics were better (say as good as locomotive/sympathy for the devil)...then the song would be an all time classic......as is its just a good rock song that would have been just below civil war status on the Illusions

vocals sound fantastic though i must say

hmmm....you do realize that sympathy for the devil was a cover right? and you said something about wishing the music was more like live and let die, you know that is a cover as well right? by "cover" i mean a song someone else wrote and performed and made famous.
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2005, 03:27:26 PM »

0:00
Gonna call the President
Gonna call the Private Eye
Gonna get the IRS
Gonna need the FBI

0:11
There's not anymore that (then) I can do
All the legions they tell me, I follow you
So when you plead the fifth, that'll be the end of time plus two //// So when you plead the fifth, that'll be the end of time it's true?Huh //// energizers too?

0:27
Wouldnt be the first time I've been gone (wrong) //// Wouldn't be the first time I'd been wrong
Wouldnt be the last I sure have found //// Wouldn't be the last, I'm sure, I've found

All the rumours I can tell, some things didn't work so well

0:37
When (well) any way it's feels the same

When you first told me you were gone
So long ago, but I've been here long
To all the luck gettin out of this wreck
A fact that you've got to hear the worst (word(s)) yet
When I need another favourite I take???
It means your life will be gone anyway???
I can't believe now and I lingered on
Couldn?t see it coming all along

1:05
well its true...ooh...I am, My God it was you
Gonna call the President
Gonna call into my Private Eye
Gonna need the IRS
Gonna get the FBI

1:24
Gonna make this a natural case
Blow the wind up, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon??? re-debate???
With the police hang together???
And the headlines due now???


{Finck Solo}Oh Oh..{Finck Solo}


1:55
I've been to sure to offer my help
I set it up again dressed as somebody else
feel like stumbling on the road
feel like I'll never get ya out of this song
Well I'm just too sad to kill
Maybe like I just walked in my shit
They'll be waiting on me I know
Like a broken record for so long

2:17
Can I do
Ooh, oh.
I'm gonna call the President
gonna call the Private Eye
I'm gonna get the IRS
Gonna need myself the FBI

2:33
Ooh, what shall I do
If I gave my heart to you, ooh ohh
It's such a crime you now it's true oooh

{Bucket solo}

3:10
I'm gonna call the President
Gonna need myself a Private Eye
Ooh, Gonna need the IRS
I'm gonna get the FBI

3:20
Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave it, write that out in your face
Rearrange it when your morning is noon??? re-debate???
And the police hang together???
and the headlines due???


3:32
There's not anymore that I can do

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These are I think the most important working points for us to find out?

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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2005, 03:33:08 PM »

As a demo its cool...but the musicianship is somewhat bland....and if the lyrics were better (say as good as locomotive/sympathy for the devil)...then the song would be an all time classic......as is its just a good rock song that would have been just below civil war status on the Illusions

vocals sound fantastic though i must say

hmmm....you do realize that sympathy for the devil was a cover right? and you said something about wishing the music was more like live and let die, you know that is a cover as well right? by "cover" i mean a song someone else wrote and performed and made famous.


Yes obviously I am aware of both.

simply meant that without the outstanding lyrics of a song such as locomotive or SFTD...or outstanding music like Jungle or LALD....this song is dissapointing as a whole if the standard is to be held to a 10 YR wait. Great vocals...very good vocal melody.....average lyrics and music..IMHO

Good to great song overall,  i expect better lyrics and music if Axl is to explain the demise of GNR...

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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2005, 03:34:59 PM »

IRS sounded average on the first few hearings... then, then it got better  ok
Poor quality sound recording to one side, i really quite like the track  beer
IRS is on my site, and no i cannot tell you the location as that would be wrong  Wink
Roll on the finished album  peace
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