The checkmate clip may be prostitute?

[-Jack-]

Maybe it's 'Sorry'

Bach said Axl sounds real clear (which he does) over dungeon metal...

Really really does not sound like metal.. or even close to Doom metal. Doom metal has a slow grinding beat.. nothing like that in this clip.

Unless theres some huge change up.

[shadyklyde]

so noone has answered how they know about the general yet

[-Jack-]

so noone has answered how they know about the general yet

They don't.

Brian or Dizzy said something about it's drums a long time ago. Thats all we know.

And that it was worked on by Marco Beltrami.

Leave Me Alone', 'Seven', and 'The General' could also feature on the new album. These three A listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially 'Seven', which Marco deems as the best of the three songs.

[shadyklyde]

so noone has answered how they know about the general yet

They don't.

Brian or Dizzy said something about it's drums a long time ago. Thats all we know.

And that it was worked on by Marco Beltrami.

Leave Me Alone', 'Seven', and 'The General' could also feature on the new album. These three A listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially 'Seven', which Marco deems as the best of the three songs.

ahh alright

[HamsterDemocracy]

I'm going to say very little about this, and if people don't want to believe me they don't want to, but here's a basic outline - without giving names of people involved - regarding the leaks. I know who leaked IRS - someone involved with the band itself told me how it all happened - and I also know that we would have had a full quality version in 2005 (when the first low-qual demo was put online as a rip from Trunk's show), but someone made a boo-boo and rushed ahead and did something he wasn't supposed to and that's why we were stuck with the shitty version for a year. I don't know exactly who released the 2006 demos but I do know at least three different people had IRS a full year earlier.

After the first three leaked online in 2006 (IRS, Better, TWAT) people began expecting new leaks. Management asked us not to spread them but oddly enough they didn't take much initiative apart from this if you'd noticed. Anyway, I don't know this for certain, but apparently someone who had access to more songs thought this was a safe time to leak tracks - since three others had been leaked without anyone getting "caught." So this guy began sending clips of CITR. This guy was NOT the same person who leaked the first three clips (I still think they were leaked by management as promotion.) Apparently management realized more unplanned leaks were going to happen so they began sending out people to the forums to find out who was leaking the song(s).

I was one of the first people to get CITR. I was asked to post it on MyGNRForum and I didn't because I would have gotten banned. But I got it from someone who was in the middle of trading for Prostitute. So I knew then that the clip was out there, because the guy who was trading was the one who had given me CITR so I knew he wasn't lying.

CITR was initially posted as a 20-second preview or something and if you notice the Checkmate clip was about the same length. Furthermore they're of the same quality.

In my opinion Checkmate is definitely Prostitute and was leaked from the same guy who first leaked CITR. In my opinion, he was discovered by management before he could leak the whole song. Or he got scared and stopped. Maybe they threatened him. Management began sending people to the forums AND monitoring private messages after CITR's preview was first posted. When I told some people that I knew who had CITR I got a flurry of random messages on HTGTH and MyGNR asking me if I knew the name of the guy and asking me for more info on the whole thing - personal details. They weren't interested in getting the song, they just wanted to know who had it. It freaked me out and I ignored them all, but it was pretty obvious something was going on. A few days later everything died down and no more leaks happened. But I believe Checkmate is Prostitute.

Checkmate was a reference to the game of chess. Whoever leaked the clip was calling management's bluff. They probably threatened him and he posted that afterwards as a way of giving them the middle finger. But maybe they weren't bluffing after all.

[polluxlm]

Cool

Nice story

[Gagarin]

So who were the first people to get their hot little hands on these demos around here?  Who had contact with "AGENT X" or whatever?

I'm buggin about how these things got out there.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

So who were the first people to get their hot little hands on these demos around here?? Who had contact with "AGENT X" or whatever?

I'm buggin about how these things got out there.

citr was emailed to ppl on the forums.

[HamsterDemocracy]

So who were the first people to get their hot little hands on these demos around here?  Who had contact with "AGENT X" or whatever?

I'm buggin about how these things got out there.

citr was emailed to ppl on the forums.

Certain people had it days before that...

[dave-gnfnr2k]

So who were the first people to get their hot little hands on these demos around here?? Who had contact with "AGENT X" or whatever?

I'm buggin about how these things got out there.

citr was emailed to ppl on the forums.

Certain people had it days before that...

They all did. Most of them didnt know  they had it in their email.

[polluxlm]

I'm more interested in knowing who this Agent X is. CITR and Prostitute must have come from somewhere. Perhaps we can expect a couple of more leaks if CD 2006 fails to happen.

[-Jack-]

So who were the first people to get their hot little hands on these demos around here?  Who had contact with "AGENT X" or whatever?

I'm buggin about how these things got out there.

citr was emailed to ppl on the forums.

Certain people had it days before that...

They all did. Most of them didnt know  they had it in their email.

I didn't find out till two days after the leak 

I wanted to be the leaker! Haha.

[Steel_Angel]

So who were the first people to get their hot little hands on these demos around here?? Who had contact with "AGENT X" or whatever?

I'm buggin about how these things got out there.

citr was emailed to ppl on the forums.

Certain people had it days before that...

They all did. Most of them didnt know? they had it in their email.

I didn't find out till two days after the leak?

I wanted to be the leaker! Haha.

i didnt know till a few months, felt bad.

[slunksoma]

hmm, I seemed to have missed the Checkmate clip you all speak of....this is reletively new right?

[Backslash]

hmm, I seemed to have missed the Checkmate clip you all speak of....this is reletively new right?

Not really... it came out over the summer.

[slunksoma]

hmm, I seemed to have missed the Checkmate clip you all speak of....this is reletively new right?

Not really... it came out over the summer.

oh right i wasnt online a lot then. that explains it. Good ost RR by the way. very interesting stuff. I love the idea of management sending out folk to m onitor these message boards, classic Orwell!

[Oh My Choking Soul]

I thought it was pretty bad-ass.

How can you tell from 16 seconds?

What do you mean, 16 seconds is plenty of time to decide if something sounds badass. Listen to 16 seconds of welcome to the jungle's intro.

[CAFC Nick]

I thought it was pretty bad-ass.

How can you tell from 16 seconds?

What do you mean, 16 seconds is plenty of time to decide if something sounds badass. Listen to 16 seconds of welcome to the jungle's intro.

Well if you had only heard the first 16 seconds of Better, I would bet you would've said it was crap.

[whiny]

so noone has answered how they know about the general yet

They don't.

Brian or Dizzy said something about it's drums a long time ago. Thats all we know.

And that it was worked on by Marco Beltrami.

Leave Me Alone', 'Seven', and 'The General' could also feature on the new album. These three A listed songs were worked on by Marco Beltrami, especially 'Seven', which Marco deems as the best of the three songs.

Dizzy said in an interview that "the general" is his favorite track... it's rumoured to be based on a creative output by BRAIN...

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I thought it was pretty bad-ass.

How can you tell from 16 seconds?

What do you mean, 16 seconds is plenty of time to decide if something sounds badass. Listen to 16 seconds of welcome to the jungle's intro.

Ok listen to 4:20-4:36 of COMA and tell me if it sounds kick ass