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« Reply #160 on: June 26, 2007, 03:06:51 AM »

Album starts off well with Let It Roll, She Mine, and Get Out the Door. Nothing wrong there. Solid songs particulary She Mine which imo should have been the first single.

She Builds.... except for when they slow it down this song blows. Horrible choice for a single almost as bad as Diry Little Thing

Last Fight- Ironically another "ballad" that vr shines on. Great intro and overall great vibe. Reminds me a lot of stp and the last album they did. This will do well on the radio. Not as catchy as FTP but I like it better than FTP. Still not as good as YGNR though.

Pills, Demons...... its ok. Good chorus. Another song with an STP vibe. I think they kinda cut the solo short.


Mary Mary.... didnt we hear this song already?...see track 2. zzzzzzzz next

Just 16-good song

For A Brother- Eh . Shoulder shrug type reaction. Descent Chorus but not much goin on

Spay- When I first heard the clip that was released I called the song a mess or something along those lines. I take it back. This song is very good. ?I enjoyed it. More of a CB song than a song for this album but comparing this song to the rest of the album this is one that stands out. I dig it.

Gravedancer---- This song basically sums up how I feel about this album and band. The song itself is enjoyable. Ironically yes another "ballad", but I feel like I have heard this song before....um...let me think...umm hmmmm..ftp any1?

as for the bonus track...VR must have heard the nutjobs that covered silkworms....myspace does work afterall

When I first heard CB I was atleast excited that Slash and Duff were back and were teaming up with Weiland. After hearing this album I wasnt. It was more like a shrug my shoulders type reaction. Theres some good songs on here. Nothing mindblowing or even to be honest memorable. This album makes CB look great. Cb compared to this was agressive loud and in your face. THis had much more of a STP/alternative vibe. Where were the blistering SLash riffs and solos? Atleast CB offers some of that although not much. I cant believe I am glowing about CB right now. But I mean this album is average at best. I cant even give it the "its better than whats playing on the radio" tag.

I just came away with I have heard this before vibe from these songs...Its like they used the same formula for both writings.  its one long song.... All of these songs pretty much sound the same. Theres too much talent in this band for me to be hearing that. There is nothing diverse from the 2 albums...u have the rockers and ballads,,,,and each have the same formula! Can I get some kind of creativity? I mean Slash is in this band...godam Slash! Hes even more lost on this album than CB.

YGNR still stands out as the top VR song. Not 1 song comes close on this album or CB. If they just let there good songs stand out and did something else with the fillers they would have something. Its like they make a couple of good songs then decide to follow that formula and mail it in. Why? I dont get it. Give me something with balls, with bite, with a what the fuk was that sense. You can call me a nutswinger all you want but imo this album blows. CB is better and Slash really needs to take control on the next album. If they are not gonna step out of the box atleast have slash deliver some in ur face blistering solos and riffs...
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« Reply #161 on: June 26, 2007, 03:37:38 AM »

Wow, YG, I'm surprised. Your review started very well, I didn't think you'd rate VR this good... than as you sum your whole experience... like you'd be talking about another album than in the song-to-song part.  Undecided

I still haven't heard it as I will wait till the album comes out, but it's strange that some people celebrate that Slash is back again while others say he gets even less space than he did on CB... The more Slash the better I think, but it's not his solo effort unlike the Snakepit albums where he totally shined. On a sidenote: some peopel should decide if they want the band to play the material they want even it doesn't fit well on today's music market or make another CB like that's what is popular today.
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« Reply #162 on: June 26, 2007, 03:37:53 AM »

Slash doing excessive soloing and riffing is what he's famous for, I'd rather have him sounding like that than trying to sound like every other bland band and current music out there. Besides, he played like that in his days in GN'R and they were never considered 'cock rock' so why would he now

Your criticism is fair, but attributing his decision to "trying to sound like every other bland band" isnt.? The reason for his current style may not be more complicated than its simply what he feels like playing.? Perhaps he feels that two-minute solos dont best serve the songs?? You obviously disagree, but you dont have to impugn his motives to do so.

I'm not questioning Slash's motives, perhaps I worded that wrong, but I think they can do much more than to sound like most other bland music out there. If I could play as well as Slash, I'd like to think I could come up with more interesting stuff than straight-ahead bar chord riffs.

That said, there are some moments of that on Libertad - Let It Roll, Just 16 that show some of that potential I'm talking about.

I don't like to bash VR or put them down because I loved (and still do) Contraband, and I'll still support them regardless, but ?I was really looking forward to this album. And now that I've heard it, I'm pretty disappointed with most of it.
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« Reply #163 on: June 26, 2007, 03:49:07 AM »

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Wow, YG, I'm surprised. Your review started very well, I didn't think you'd rate VR this good... than as you sum your whole experience... like you'd be talking about another album than in the song-to-song part.

I think it seems like that because after hearing the album a few times i feel like i was sorta cheated in a way. Like as the album went on it all sounded the same pretty much....like i said some good songs but i def wont buy it.  Theres really not even a clear cut winner on the album...is there really a stand out single? i dont think so
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« Reply #164 on: June 26, 2007, 04:13:47 AM »

Damn, still haven't heard it yet. Gotta download it soon...
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« Reply #165 on: June 26, 2007, 06:33:44 AM »

to all the little boys who insulted me >> i say what i want, how i want.
if U disagree, i really don't care. clear enough ?

the thing i can't understand here is we are allowed to talk about the
whole leaked VR album and we just can't do that for Guns. too bad.
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« Reply #166 on: June 26, 2007, 07:27:07 AM »

^ I guess the difference is Libertad actually exists and is gonna be released on Saturday, whereas Chinese Democracy is a myth and doesn't really exist... ok
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« Reply #167 on: June 26, 2007, 07:43:46 AM »

to all the little boys who insulted me >> i say what i want, how i want.
if U disagree, i really don't care. clear enough ?

the thing i can't understand here is we are allowed to talk about the
whole leaked VR album and we just can't do that for Guns. too bad.

GN'R have specifically asked not to discuss the album.

VR are yet to issue such a? statement.
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« Reply #168 on: June 26, 2007, 08:00:35 AM »

^ I guess the difference is Libertad actually exists and is gonna be released on Saturday, whereas Chinese Democracy is a myth and doesn't really exist... ok

Yeah you have all the reason


one thing, where do you live? why is libertad gonna be released where you live? i live in spain and here it comes out on tuesday the 3rd
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« Reply #169 on: June 26, 2007, 08:01:29 AM »

^ I guess the difference is Libertad actually exists and is gonna be released on Saturday, whereas Chinese Democracy is a myth and doesn't really exist... ok

Yeah you have all the reason


one thing, where do you live? why is libertad gonna be released where you live? i live in spain and here it comes out on tuesday the 3rd

i mean why is libertad released on saturday where you live?
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« Reply #170 on: June 26, 2007, 08:43:16 AM »

^ I guess the difference is Libertad actually exists and is gonna be released on Saturday, whereas Chinese Democracy is a myth and doesn't really exist... ok

Yeah you have all the reason


one thing, where do you live? why is libertad gonna be released where you live? i live in spain and here it comes out on tuesday the 3rd

i mean why is libertad released on saturday where you live?

I live in Australia and the released date is this coming Saturday. I don't know why that is, but that's what's been advertised here.
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« Reply #171 on: June 26, 2007, 12:06:58 PM »

to all the little boys who insulted me >> i say what i want, how i want.
if U disagree, i really don't care. clear enough ?

the thing i can't understand here is we are allowed to talk about the
whole leaked VR album and we just can't do that for Guns. too bad.

Cause the GNR album hasn't leaked


Unfinished DEMOS leaked
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« Reply #172 on: June 26, 2007, 12:10:26 PM »

Ribertad - A Korean Dictator's Review, in Accordance with the Sociarist Rifestyre

Oh, Herro!? This is Dear Reader Kim Jong Ir, of the Democratic Peopre's Repubric of Korea, here to terr you what to think about the ratest piece of American propaganda against the socialist lifestyre, "Ribertad," by Vervet Revorver!?

Let it Rorr - This song sounds too much rike an American carr to arms!? But, it's a strong, fast, hard rocking opener.? Nice riffage and I rike what Duff does with the bass.? It gives the song a rich sound.? There is a short soro, but it's hardry Srash's best.? In fact, the guitar work after the soro, during the rast 30 seconds of the song, are much more interesting.? But, not arr songs have to feature a mindbrowing soro, and I think it's a strong opener to the arbum. 8/10

She Mine - She yours?? NOT IN KOREA, where everyrun berongs to me!? Despite capitalist rhetoric, this is a decent forrow up.? The pace srows considerably with this one, after what seemed like a bristering opener.? Again, I rike the opening riff, and some of the guitar effects are interesting, too.? Weirand's vocars are pretty strong here, too.? But, again, outside of some strong riffing, the lead guitar work is not up to the standards that fans of Srash expect. 7/10

Get Out the Door -? Weirand's vocals on this one are rearry different from what he usuarry derivers.? I rike that, because it changes things up.? But I'm starting to wonder if Srash reft the band, or something.? Another uninspired soro. 6/10

She Buirds Quick Machines -? Weirand wants to smash right through my spotright!? It sounds rike he's trying to defect to the South!? But, finarry, a decent soro! 8/10

The Rast Fight - I rike this one!? The drumming in the beginning sounds rike what the army marches to in the Democratic Peopre's Repubric of Korea!? This is the first rear "srow" song on the arbum, and it serves as a good medium for Weirand's vocars.? This song wourd have been better situated, I think, as a croser to the arbum.? Of course, the ryrics are arr wrong!? In the real rast fight, Kim will crush the Americans! 7/10

Pirrs, Demons, & Etc. -? This one starts with a good riff, and Kim says that good riffs inspire peopre to rive on 700 carories per day!? This soro starts off fairrey weak, but improves, despite being far too short.? However, the song is definitery firrer. 5/10

American Man - I don't rike Americans and their propaganda, and this song isn't much better.? A good chorus doesn't repeat the same line four times in a row. 5/10

Mary Mary - Weirand sounds a rittre gram in his singing, here.? This is one of the better songs on the arbum, but just when some interesting guitar work starts to happen, they go back to the vocar parts.? Still one of the arbum's best. 9/10

Just Sixteen - JUST sixteen?? Ereven is ord enough to join the Korean Army!? Haven't I heard this song before?? No?? They're starting to sound the same, to be honest, because a rot of the songs seem to go at about the same pace.? On the bright side, a fairrey uninspired song is saved because the soro (actuarry, two of them!) here is one of the better ones on the arbum.? [b/10[/b]

Can't Get It Out of My Head - The onry thing that shourd be in your head is North Korean radio!? Oh, werr.? This is actuarry a rearry good cover, and thankfurry it's adds some contrast to an arbum that was starting to go in circres.? Arso, we've been waiting through nine songs for Srash to wair rike this, and he finarry derivers a great soro...which sounds a rot rike Joe Perry's work with Aerosmith!? Not that that's a bad thing, of course. 9/10

For a Brother - Right back to the riff driven hard rock, I see.? This song has some nice guitar and vocal work, but it doesn't see to rearry go anywhere.? Perhaps it would be better if it were "For Dear Reader Kim Jong Ir"!? 6/10

Spay - Spaying reads to ress animars, and fewer carories, so this song worries me!? But I rike the aggressiveness of the chorus!? This song has barrs, so "Spay" isn't rearry a good name! 8/10

Gravedancer - Soon the Democratic Peopre's Repubric of Korea wirr be dancing on the grave of the American peopre!? But Vervet Revorver...they rearry srow it down for this one.? I rike the song...it's a good barrad, and shourd work werr rive.? But then I found out that this track had hidden American propaganda!? What are they trying to sneak into Korea?? It's firthy American cowboy music, just rike George W. Bush would risten to!? I see why they wourd try to sneak this in, as it's one of the arbum highrights, and reminds me of my youth ristening to the Rorring Stones.? 9/10

Overarr, I think that Vervet Revorver's "Ribertad" is a decent arbum.? It's fun and ristenabre, which is good.? But, the band doesn't take full advantage of their member's tarents, in typicar razy American fashion, and at points it suffers because of it.? Ret's face it...Mick Warr is a pushover, if he thinks this arbum is a 9/10.? I just wish he worked for the UN.
OVERARR: 7/10

Oh shit, this was funny as hell.  Reminded me of Team America.  I loved that movie.

Did you do this yourself?  Brilliant!

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« Reply #173 on: June 26, 2007, 12:52:05 PM »

Just listened it trough and, well I didn't like Contraband too much and Libertad ain't much different, some good songs but nothing earth shattering. Like with Contraband, my biggest problem with Libertad is Weiland, predictable and uninventing singing.
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« Reply #174 on: June 26, 2007, 01:14:09 PM »

to all the little boys who insulted me >> i say what i want, how i want.
if U disagree, i really don't care. clear enough ?

the thing i can't understand here is we are allowed to talk about the
whole leaked VR album and we just can't do that for Guns. too bad.

Cause the GNR album hasn't leaked


Unfinished DEMOS leaked

oh, so when the whole album will be leak we'll be allowed to discuss it ?
right ? ok.

jarmo, you can confirm that ?  hihi


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« Reply #175 on: June 26, 2007, 01:15:24 PM »

I still haven't heard it as I will wait till the album comes out, but it's strange that some people celebrate that Slash is back again while others say he gets even less space than he did on CB... The more Slash the better I think, but it's not his solo effort unlike the Snakepit albums where he totally shined. On a sidenote: some peopel should decide if they want the band to play the material they want even it doesn't fit well on today's music market or make another CB like that's what is popular today.

Libertad has a bluesier sound than CB, and is more melodic I guess you could say, and there are some real nice Slash solos on some of the songs.  On the other hand, Contraband is a lot heavier.  Contraband "rocked" a lot more, Libertad has more varied sound and is a lot softer and more mellow, but I wouldn't come in expecting an album where Slash shines and dominates from start to finish
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« Reply #176 on: June 26, 2007, 01:23:45 PM »

I still haven't heard it as I will wait till the album comes out, but it's strange that some people celebrate that Slash is back again while others say he gets even less space than he did on CB... The more Slash the better I think, but it's not his solo effort unlike the Snakepit albums where he totally shined. On a sidenote: some peopel should decide if they want the band to play the material they want even it doesn't fit well on today's music market or make another CB like that's what is popular today.

Libertad has a bluesier sound than CB, and is more melodic I guess you could say, and there are some real nice Slash solos on some of the songs.  On the other hand, Contraband is a lot heavier.  Contraband "rocked" a lot more, Libertad has more varied sound and is a lot softer and more mellow, but I wouldn't come in expecting an album where Slash shines and dominates from start to finish

I missed Slash on this record, especially the blistering Slither caliber solo. Disappointing.
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« Reply #177 on: June 26, 2007, 01:32:49 PM »

I still haven't heard it as I will wait till the album comes out, but it's strange that some people celebrate that Slash is back again while others say he gets even less space than he did on CB... The more Slash the better I think, but it's not his solo effort unlike the Snakepit albums where he totally shined. On a sidenote: some peopel should decide if they want the band to play the material they want even it doesn't fit well on today's music market or make another CB like that's what is popular today.

Libertad has a bluesier sound than CB, and is more melodic I guess you could say, and there are some real nice Slash solos on some of the songs.? On the other hand, Contraband is a lot heavier.? Contraband "rocked" a lot more, Libertad has more varied sound and is a lot softer and more mellow, but I wouldn't come in expecting an album where Slash shines and dominates from start to finish

Hey guys this is definetely not snakepit, a band where all is About slash's solos, riffs, licks. This is a band with much more potential and personality. I mean i love snakepit, mainly ain't life grand (an awesome record), but here you have a lot of more personalities. What i love from guns is the chemistry, the power the potential these guys had when they played togueter, how good Duff's punky-rocker bass lines mixed with slash heavy-blues-rock guitar with izzy stones guitar style and steven feracious drums (at first) or Matt soft and taster drums (after steven) and the amazin' and powerful axl voice.
What i mean is with snakepit all was about slash's guitars, mainly in it's 5 o'clock. With velvet revolver you have a real band with a lot of hard personalities and that's what they have that make them special. All of them are legends (well kushner still isn't it) and you can identify their input on every song they writte togueter. I'd love to here some solo stuff from them, but in a few years, nowadays i prefer they do this and keep growin' as a band because world needs this kind of bands more than ever and because ?the chemistry these guys have is unique. well, that's my opinion afterall
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« Reply #178 on: June 26, 2007, 01:36:12 PM »

Can someone email me , telling me how to download this please?, cos i looked on limewire and all they have is 'she builds quick machines'.
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« Reply #179 on: June 26, 2007, 01:52:23 PM »

VELVET REVOLVER: Entire 'Libertad' Album Available For Streaming - June 26, 2007

VELVET REVOLVER's entire new album, "Libertad", is available for streaming on the ClearChannelMusic.com web site.

http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/cc-common/mfeatures/velvetrevolverSP/

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