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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2008, 01:51:27 PM »

The Eagles came out in October.  But the eagles album is a double album.  So it's 7 million CDs sold...but only 3.5 million versions of the album.

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If Chinese Democracy is a Wal*Mart only release, I won't buy it.

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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2008, 01:55:35 PM »

If its released in wal mart and u don't have one near you, you know what I would do ? I would drive to the nearest Wal Mart and grab a copy I don't care if gas is expensive I would drive a thousand miles to purchase this CD.  The car ride would consist of AFD first, Lies, UY1/2, and then the spagetti incident by the time all those CD's are done you will be at your destination.
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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2008, 01:56:44 PM »

I wonder how many people with "ethics" issues about Wal-Mart have illegally downloaded the leaks.

Besides the obvious "ethics" contradiction, you are the sole reason the music industry have had no choice but to come up with creative sources of revenue such as exclusive retailers and video game releases.

Edit: And yes, I contributed to that as well, but I'm not bitching about it.
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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2008, 01:59:02 PM »

The Eagles came out in October.  But the eagles album is a double album.  So it's 7 million CDs sold...but only 3.5 million versions of the album.

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If Chinese Democracy is a Wal*Mart only release, I won't buy it.

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Wow I've heard it all some people u just can't please.  I hate walmart too but if Chinese Democracy is the only place I can buy it ? IM THERE !!!
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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2008, 02:00:00 PM »

So let me get this straight on how all of this works.

What special advantages do u get for releasing it straight to Wal Mart or somewhere? Do they pay any of the recording costs or do anything like that? Help with the promotion? I know GNR and the label probably get a bigger piece of the revenue.

Usually the retailer pays the artist for the the exclusivity.....some sort of flat fee.

I'm not sure on revenue, though.  I don't THINK there would be any additional monies per unit....but maybe.  You'd likely be cutting the middleman out of the process (a distributor) so the artist may get part, or all, of that "cut".
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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2008, 02:00:30 PM »

I thought wal-mart was just an option? No use getting worked up over something that's not even confirmed yet!
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« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2008, 02:02:53 PM »

You gotta wonder though if this may be some sort of Compromise Axl has to make. 13 million is a LOT of money anyway u slice it. if the label thinks they can recoup that and turn a profit, it may be a sticking point that Axl can't refuse.


Think about this everyone, me being the voice of reason here, who the hell would've thought:

What does it matter where u buy it as long as u are getting it? This is the album most of us have been waiting almost half of our lives for. I don't give a shit if I have to buy it a some flea market down the road.  As long as the work isn't "compromised" in anyway to be available at Walmart. I won't complain any.
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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2008, 02:04:27 PM »

You gotta wonder though if this may be some sort of Compromise Axl has to make. 13 million is a LOT of money anyway u slice it. if the label thinks they can recoup that and turn a profit, it may be a sticking point that Axl can't refuse.


Think about this everyone, me being the voice of reason here, who the hell would've thought:

What does it matter where u buy it as long as u are getting it? This is the album most of us have been waiting almost half of our lives for. I don't give a shit if I have to buy it a some flea market down the road.  As long as the work isn't "compromised" in anyway to be available at Walmart. I won't complain any.

Has Axl ever comprimised his vision or his art? I think not, that's why it took so long. For all we know this could be non-issue anyway and it could go to Best Buy.
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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2008, 02:05:46 PM »

Would love to know who the author's sources are.  At least it is published for a reputable mag/website.  Definitely a positive sign that the wheels are moving (so long as the source isn't some loser tellin lies on a message board!)
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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2008, 02:06:18 PM »

I thought wal-mart was just an option? No use getting worked up over something that's not even confirmed yet!

Exactly.



If Chinese Democracy is a Wal*Mart only release, I won't buy it.


Hahaha.


All this time it's been "we want the album" and now suddenly when there's possible news of it being out it's gone from that to "well, I'm not gonna buy it at all if it's sold there!".

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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2008, 02:12:42 PM »

Now this is great news.
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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2008, 02:22:04 PM »

If its a walmart Exclusive, that means they can't even release singles on Itunes right? that of course has worked out great for Kid Rock.
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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2008, 02:30:06 PM »

The Eagles came out in October.  But the eagles album is a double album.  So it's 7 million CDs sold...but only 3.5 million versions of the album.

Quoted For Truth.

If Chinese Democracy is a Wal*Mart only release, I won't buy it.

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i bet you do!!!!...   Wink

at least we can now conclude all the mixing, producing and all the other fucking around is done and dusted, they just have to release it now
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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2008, 02:34:33 PM »

I think this is great news, if true, it means things are really moving along. ok
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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2008, 02:55:29 PM »

.... the eagles have like the highest selling album of all time, not a chance they would sell low numbers. also walmart doesn't sell albums with the Parental Advisory sticker...

chances of Axl not cursing in a record are as good as hillary clinton being elected president. it ain't gonna happen. if it happens it will be best buy. don't know how smart of a marketing move it is... but i don't care. as long as i have my copies.
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2008, 02:57:13 PM »

I'll buy it from Wal-Mart, but I'm really hoping it's a Best Buy exclusive.

Wal-Mart are as corrupt and evil as it gets.

As for swearing in the songs, IRS has the word "shit" in it, and Madagascar has "this whole thing is fucked up."
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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2008, 03:00:01 PM »

You can't read anything into it yet....because nothing is confirmed...However I do remember back in 1991 when the "Illusions" were realeasd were the "parental advisory" sticker, one of the things that Axl seemed most upset about was that chains like wal-mart and k-mart were not able to carry the record.  He had mentioned that growing up his family only shopped at places like wal-mart because everything there was a little cheaper, and he didnt come from lots of money.  He was upset in 1991 that kids who come from families that arent so well off were not going to get the opportunity to buy the record. So for "Chinese Democracy" to be made a "wal-mart" exclusive would make sense because it is giving everybody the opportunity to buy the record at an affordable price...

once again the retail exclusive thing is still in the SPECULATION phase.....but that is just one way you can look at it....



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AXL: Her efforts really hurt our sales in the States. The whole stickering thing took its effect because major record chains like K-Mart and Walmart, which are 50 percent of a band?s sales, won?t even carry our albums. You?ve got to realize that certain income families don?t let their kids shop just anywhere. When I was growing up, we were a K-Mart family, so I speak from experience. You could look wherever you wanted, but you bought things at K-Mart because it?s a little cheaper. I think the fact that Tipper Gore is closer to power is something that we?ll have to deal with. I think the Gores toned down their act in order to get the vote, but I haven?t forgotten what she?s done. She did achieve her goal ? first albums had to be stickered, then stores wouldn?t carry stickered albums.
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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2008, 03:00:40 PM »

I wonder how many people with "ethics" issues about Wal-Mart have illegally downloaded the leaks.

Besides the obvious "ethics" contradiction, you are the sole reason the music industry have had no choice but to come up with creative sources of revenue such as exclusive retailers and video game releases.

Edit: And yes, I contributed to that as well, but I'm not bitching about it.

Treating your employees like garbage, and not allowing them to have a union is bit worse than downloading a song Roll Eyes
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« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2008, 03:11:00 PM »

Wall Mart Exclsive?? Didn't know people actually do that. Sounds like something that is potentially a good  business solution and just   terrible thing to do PR-wise.
Surely most GNR fans dont give a fuck to one way or another about distribution channels when/if a day arrives when you can actually buy it:D
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« Reply #59 on: August 15, 2008, 03:13:56 PM »

I wonder how many people with "ethics" issues about Wal-Mart have illegally downloaded the leaks.

Besides the obvious "ethics" contradiction, you are the sole reason the music industry have had no choice but to come up with creative sources of revenue such as exclusive retailers and video game releases.

Edit: And yes, I contributed to that as well, but I'm not bitching about it.

Treating your employees like garbage, and not allowing them to have a union is bit worse than downloading a song Roll Eyes

In my home town, after the commercial fishery shut down, Walmat became the biggest employer. Everybody in my hometown is very grateful for Walmat and the jobs they provide.

You are being pretentious and sophomoric.
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