Slash React to Arrest of Chinese Leaker

[Ines_rocks!]

We knew things were getting a bit rocky for Kevin "Skwerl" Cogill earlier this week, when it was learned that the FBI had arrested Mr. Cogill following suspicion that the Antiquiet blogger had violated federal copyright law. Cogill had admitted to leaking nine previously unreleased tracks purportedly from Guns N' Roses' perennially eventual Chinese Democracy LP via Antiquiet back in June.

What we didn't know was this: according to the Los Angeles Times, Cogill faces up to three years in prison and $250,000 in fines, seeing as he's now the first California resident to be charged under an anti-piracy law that makes it a felony to distribute a copyrighted work on computer networks before its release. Yikes! Careful where you put that Skeletal Lamping, everybody.

Cogill was released shortly after his Wednesday arrest on $10,000 bond, and was not required to enter a plea at this time. But according to former Guns N' Roses guitarist (and amateur law buff?) Slash, Cogill's potential return to the clink couldn't come soon enough.

"I hope he rots in jail," Slash told the Times. "It's going to affect the sales of the record, and it's not fair. The Internet is what it is, and you have to deal with it accordingly, but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft." I only wish he'd suggested they "throw him to the Snakepit."

Axl Rose and company also managed to get out a statement that, though intentionally vague, may bode a little better for Cogill. Said the Guns N' Roses camp, according to the Times: "Presently, though we don't support this guy's actions at that level, our interest is in the original source. We can't comment publicly at this time as the investigation is ongoing."

Ongoing too, as ever, is the wait for a proper release date for Chinese Democracy-- which, it would seem, would alone solve damn near all these problems.

in http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/145087-guns-n-roses-slash-react-to-arrest-of-chinese-leaker


I find it funny and ironic how Slash says that when back in the day he would steal LPs from the record stores...

[Dayle1066]

If you steal from record stores the artist isnt missing out on money, the store is

[BlowUpYourVideo]

If you steal from record stores the artist isnt missing out on money, the store is

Yes they are...


Regarding Slash stealing LPs from stores, he probably realises it's wrong now that he himself is an artist putting out music.

(But hoping the guy "rots in jail"? )

[DeN]

Slash drinks too much

[Neemo]

^ last i heard he was going to give it all up

anyway slash stealing one album is peanuts

by thousands downloading the material has a much larger impact...anyway slash was like 12 when he stole shit...this dude skewrl is alot older...anyway you guys prolly all downloaded the material anyway so dont get all high and mighty on who is a theif and stuff

[jarmo]

You think he stopped stealing when he was 12?



/jarmo

[Neemo]

prolly not...drugs make you do crazy shit sometimes...just saying...stealing a few albums for personal use isnt anythign compared to giving thousands of people a copy of one for free...its not like slash stole the whole inventory and gave it away

anyway its not the same thing IMO

[DeN]

I'm still curious why he seems so concerned about that.
wait...Slash doesn't play on Chinese Democracy, right ? hum

[jarmo]

I'm still curious why he seems so concerned about that.
wait...Slash doesn't play on Chinese Democracy, right ? hum

But he got his name in the paper.....




/jarmo

[Neemo]

the jackass here is the reporter asking him about the whole thing when it has nothign to do with slash

i doubt slash just brought it up outta the blue like you guys suggest

y'all should be happy .... hes defending axl

[Ines_rocks!]

If you steal from record stores the artist isnt missing out on money, the store is

well... he stole his first tophat too! 

[jarmo]

the jackass here is the reporter asking him about the whole thing when it has nothign to do with slash

i doubt slash just brought it up outta the blue like you guys suggest

True.

Do you think it ever occurred to him to say "no comment"?

 



/jarmo

[Neemo]

the jackass here is the reporter asking him about the whole thing when it has nothign to do with slash

i doubt slash just brought it up outta the blue like you guys suggest

True.

Do you think it ever occurred to him to say "no comment"?

 



/jarmo

i wish he would too .... but he wont.... he does like to talk

[lynn1961]

We knew things were getting a bit rocky for Kevin "Skwerl" Cogill earlier this week, when it was learned that the FBI had arrested Mr. Cogill following suspicion that the Antiquiet blogger had violated federal copyright law. Cogill had admitted to leaking nine previously unreleased tracks purportedly from Guns N' Roses' perennially eventual Chinese Democracy LP via Antiquiet back in June.

What we didn't know was this: according to the Los Angeles Times, Cogill faces up to three years in prison and $250,000 in fines, seeing as he's now the first California resident to be charged under an anti-piracy law that makes it a felony to distribute a copyrighted work on computer networks before its release. Yikes! Careful where you put that Skeletal Lamping, everybody.

Cogill was released shortly after his Wednesday arrest on $10,000 bond, and was not required to enter a plea at this time. But according to former Guns N' Roses guitarist (and amateur law buff?) Slash, Cogill's potential return to the clink couldn't come soon enough.

"I hope he rots in jail," Slash told the Times. "It's going to affect the sales of the record, and it's not fair. The Internet is what it is, and you have to deal with it accordingly, but I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft." I only wish he'd suggested they "throw him to the Snakepit."

Axl Rose and company also managed to get out a statement that, though intentionally vague, may bode a little better for Cogill. Said the Guns N' Roses camp, according to the Times: "Presently, though we don't support this guy's actions at that level, our interest is in the original source. We can't comment publicly at this time as the investigation is ongoing."

Ongoing too, as ever, is the wait for a proper release date for Chinese Democracy-- which, it would seem, would alone solve damn near all these problems.

in http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/145087-guns-n-roses-slash-react-to-arrest-of-chinese-leaker


I find it funny and ironic how Slash says that when back in the day he would steal LPs from the record stores...

You think he stopped stealing when he was 12?



/jarmo

I'm still curious why he seems so concerned about that.
wait...Slash doesn't play on Chinese Democracy, right ? hum

But he got his name in the paper.....




/jarmo

If you steal from record stores the artist isnt missing out on money, the store is

well... he stole his first tophat too! 

the jackass here is the reporter asking him about the whole thing when it has nothign to do with slash

i doubt slash just brought it up outta the blue like you guys suggest

True.

Do you think it ever occurred to him to say "no comment"?

 



/jarmo

the jackass here is the reporter asking him about the whole thing when it has nothign to do with slash

i doubt slash just brought it up outta the blue like you guys suggest

True.

Do you think it ever occurred to him to say "no comment"?

 



/jarmo

i wish he would too .... but he wont.... he does like to talk

yeah, yeah, yeah.  I figured, when I first read this, that this would be about the "jist" of it, here. 

What he did at 12 or 18 or 20 is a lot different, as it is for all of us.  I believe he's looking at this, from a musician's standpoint, and what can happen in this day and age, with the freedom of the internet.  Whether it's releasing leaks or downloading music, for free - it robs and steals from the music industry.   His comments had nothing to do with Axl, the potential release of CD, publicity for himself or what he did when he was much younger.   

And for anyone wanting to make negative comments -  think about yourself - any one of us - How many of us have downloaded and listened to those leaks? or many have downloaded music, for free......many of us have been part of that. 

[kaasupoltin]

What he did at 12 or 18 or 20 is a lot different, as it is for all of us.  I believe he's looking at this, from a musician's standpoint, and what can happen in this day and age, with the freedom of the internet.  Whether it's releasing leaks or downloading music, for free - it robs and steals from the music industry.   His comments had nothing to do with Axl, the potential release of CD, publicity for himself or what he did when he was much younger.

I gotta agree with lynn1961 here, this is exactly how I see it. It wasn't a "way to get his name on paper" for him, I mean he's Slash, he doesn't need to say anything like this to do it. I think he really is just talking about his point of view as a musician.

[BlowUpYourVideo]

TBH, Slash commenting on Chinese Democracy leaks probably won't make the front page anyway.

[oldgunsfan]

I'm still curious why he seems so concerned about that.
wait...Slash doesn't play on Chinese Democracy, right ? hum

But he got his name in the paper.....


/jarmo

or maybe he was just asked about it?

slash can get his name in the newspaper if he passed gas at the local liquor store

[kaasupoltin]

TBH, Slash commenting on Chinese Democracy leaks probably won't make the front page anyway.

True. Some people just find these quotes a way to bash him and his sayings.

[jarmo]

"I think if someone goes and steals something, it's theft" - Slash


It's just ironic....

I'm not talking about what he did as a teenager, that's irrelevant in this case.

What if you steal a guitar from Hard Rock Cafe? Is that theft too?

Obviously he's against theft when it's his top hat that was stolen or when it affects his income.



On another note, doesn't this mean Slash hates GN'R fans?

And the "little guy"?




/jarmo

[kaasupoltin]

Now Jarmo, what is your motivation here? You should use that energy to something useful instead of using it to try to make Slash look bad.
Oh sorry, you're probably just "telling people the truth" or "telling the facts".

Btw. It is ironic, but can you say he's wrong? No? I think so too.