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[D-GenerationX]

I wouldn't call it preposterous.  There was a lot of pain there and Axl shared some real insight into what was going on at that time in his life. 

Let's put you in that building.  April 9, 1992

You've waited...I don't know, however the hell long for them to come out.  They finally do, and deliver scorching versions of both 'Nightrain' and 'Mr. Brownstone'.  You are jacked.  This is going to be awesome.

He then has the band leave the stage, and rambles on, for FIVE SOLID MINUTES, about how he hates his family and how the universe is pretty much against him.

5 minutes is long watching it on video.  Live?  Probably felt like a half hour.

Who does that???

But that's the thing.  That was Axl in that era of their career.  You could say it would be nice if they just played the songs,  but that is not an accurate representation of their live shows in 1991-92.  It was both great performances, and Axl histrionics.  It's Axl belting out a quality 'Live And Let Die'...but also yelling "take that motherfucker's camera!!" right in the middle of it. 

Like I said, that one night is a great microcosm of that era of their touring.  Has it all.  It was all a package deal, and not like anything else out there at the time.

That concert, by the way, is just tremendous.  I can't think of a bad song that night.  'Coma' is especially awesome.  Dude doesn't miss one word.

[The Wight Gunner]

I wouldn't call it preposterous.  There was a lot of pain there and Axl shared some real insight into what was going on at that time in his life. 

Let's put you in that building.  April 9, 1992

You've waited...I don't know, however the hell long for them to come out.  They finally do, and deliver scorching versions of both 'Nightrain' and 'Mr. Brownstone'.  You are jacked.  This is going to be awesome.

He then has the band leave the stage, and rambles on, for FIVE SOLID MINUTES, about how he hates his family and how the universe is pretty much against him.

5 minutes is long watching it on video.  Live?  Probably felt like a half hour.

Who does that???

But that's the thing.  That was Axl in that era of their career.  You could say it would be nice if they just played the songs,  but that is not an accurate representation of their live shows in 1991-92.  It was both great performances, and Axl histrionics.  It's Axl belting out a quality 'Live And Let Die'...but also yelling "take that motherfucker's camera!!" right in the middle of it. 

Like I said, that one night is a great microcosm of that era of their touring.  Has it all.  It was all a package deal, and not like anything else out there at the time.

That concert, by the way, is just tremendous.  I can't think of a bad song that night.  'Coma' is especially awesome.  Dude doesn't miss one word.

Is this the show where Slash breaks a string during Coma?

[reayj2003]

On point..Is it not very strange that universal have produced/endorsed a video that pushes the old line up of GN'R and completely neglects to mention Chinese Democracy??

[reayj2003]

Here is Video in case you missed it. The intro of someone else's crowd makes it look like it's meant to be current...

  https://vimeo.com/118791602

[D-GenerationX]

On point..Is it not very strange that universal have produced/endorsed a video that pushes the old line up of GN'R and completely neglects to mention Chinese Democracy??

Not really.

This is all about making a buck, and you are going to promote the most accessible aspects of the band, and the stuff that draws in even the casual fan.

You'd have to be living on another planet to not recognize the famous stuff from their prime.  So you lead with that.

[jarmo]

On point..Is it not very strange that universal have produced/endorsed a video that pushes the old line up of GN'R and completely neglects to mention Chinese Democracy??

It's like a Greatest Hits, except for a new demography.




/jarmo

[Ow-So7411501]

I'm surprised Axl was ok with this though considering his stance on only promoting the current product. Business-wise it makes sense but as we've seen in the past Axl doesnt necessarily go with whats best for business. Part of the reason we love him though.

[D-GenerationX]

I'm surprised Axl was ok with this though considering his stance on only promoting the current product. Business-wise it makes sense but as we've seen in the past Axl doesnt necessarily go with whats best for business. Part of the reason we love him though.

It does seem strange, I agree.

This is the same camp that was pissed at VH-1 for including only one 'Chinese Democracy' song on the hour long broadcast of that one concert.

[DeN]

well, I suppose that's good money while you're not touring.

[reayj2003]

On point..Is it not very strange that universal have produced/endorsed a video that pushes the old line up of GN'R and completely neglects to mention Chinese Democracy??

It's like a Greatest Hits, except for a new demography.




/jarmo

But Axl did not want to release Greatest Hits..and that was before Chinese. Even if they show old footage why omit "Chinese Democracy"??

If you were to use the old songs but with the current line up footage from Appetite for Democracy would that not be the best of both worlds?? They could have been handing out sample cd's of "Appetite for Democracy"...It's basic marketing.

I'm sorry it makes no sense to me that the label is pushing the old line up in this way when all the real fans are waiting for an Album from the band we've supported for 15 years.

[draguns]

Reayj, it makes perfect sense to push the old lineup since that was the lineup that had the hits and one of the best debut albums of all-time.  The current lineup has yet to really establish itself.

I do disagree with DX, though. I liked it when Axl had his rants. He said a lot of interesting things. The last minute of the Chicago rant is pretty awesome.

[jarmo]

I'm sorry it makes no sense to me that the label is pushing the old line up in this way when all the real fans are waiting for an Album from the band we've supported for 15 years.

That's how the record companies work. Whatever they think they can make the most money on.

The hardcore fans are a small group of the general population who listens to classic rock radio stations and sings along to Paradise City as it comes on in a bar....




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

I do disagree with DX, though. I liked it when Axl had his rants. He said a lot of interesting things. The last minute of the Chicago rant is pretty awesome.

Timing and length are everything, I think.

The sheer length of that first one in Chicago, combined with unleashing it barely 10 minutes on stage, really fucks up the timing and vibe of of a show. 

On the other hand, the Warren Beatty rant in Paris (while also a bit unhinged) was fucking hilarious.  It was short, to the point, and at a time in the show that worked better.  Hell, leads right into one of the signature songs of that particular tour.

Its tough to hit people that waited all day/night to see you, if not been looking forward to it for the week beforehand, with all that mess right out of the gate.

Ever hear the bootleg from the first show of the tour with Metallica in Washington?  Huge rant about St. Louis after the first two songs.  You can clearly hear people on the bootleg saying to each other "Jesus, is he still talking about St. Louis?" and the annoyance in the tone is obvious. 

But, later in the show, that probably plays better.  Perhaps leading into DTJ.

[EmilyGNR]

I do disagree with DX, though. I liked it when Axl had his rants. He said a lot of interesting things. The last minute of the Chicago rant is pretty awesome.

Timing and length are everything, I think.

The sheer length of that first one in Chicago, combined with unleashing it barely 10 minutes on stage, really fucks up the timing and vibe of of a show. 

On the other hand, the Warren Beatty rant in Paris (while also a bit unhinged) was fucking hilarious.  It was short, to the point, and at a time in the show that worked better.  Hell, leads right into one of the signature songs of that particular tour.

Its tough to hit people that waited all day/night to see you, if not been looking forward to it for the week beforehand, with all that mess right out of the gate.

Ever hear the bootleg from the first show of the tour with Metallica in Washington?  Huge rant about St. Louis after the first two songs.  You can clearly hear people on the bootleg saying to each other "Jesus, is he still talking about St. Louis?" and the annoyance in the tone is obvious. 

But, later in the show, that probably plays better.  Perhaps leading into DTJ.

I was in attendance at the Chicago show, did not subtract from my enjoyment nor my group's enjoyment of the show one iota. 

Find something else to whine about.

[reayj2003]

So what was the whole "guitar hero" law suite all about if this is all just the 'norm'. If Axl still wants to push the current line up and establish the new image this is not a good thing to launch.

I'm afraid it's about integrity. Something you've pushed for years Jarmo. If it's all just 'GN'R why not have this part of the forum open to discuss all members of the band past & present like at mygnr.

I've seen barely any advertising for 'appetite for democracy' and this would have been a great product to tie in with it.

[TheBaconman]

I do disagree with DX, though. I liked it when Axl had his rants. He said a lot of interesting things. The last minute of the Chicago rant is pretty awesome.

Timing and length are everything, I think.

The sheer length of that first one in Chicago, combined with unleashing it barely 10 minutes on stage, really fucks up the timing and vibe of of a show. 

On the other hand, the Warren Beatty rant in Paris (while also a bit unhinged) was fucking hilarious.  It was short, to the point, and at a time in the show that worked better.  Hell, leads right into one of the signature songs of that particular tour.

Its tough to hit people that waited all day/night to see you, if not been looking forward to it for the week beforehand, with all that mess right out of the gate.

Ever hear the bootleg from the first show of the tour with Metallica in Washington?  Huge rant about St. Louis after the first two songs.  You can clearly hear people on the bootleg saying to each other "Jesus, is he still talking about St. Louis?" and the annoyance in the tone is obvious. 

But, later in the show, that probably plays better.  Perhaps leading into DTJ.

Have you seriously been waiting the past 20 years to talk about every track u found      Its all rubbish

So in 1992 Axl said this.   But in 1989 they opened for the stones.   yadayaafa.   


Put it all in a video.  Like.  Oasis.  And u have me.   Until then.  U are a bum

[TheBaconman]

Come in come out come in come out tonight

[JAEBALL]

This place is ...

DX doesn't like this ...

Emily scolds him for it ...amazing how many different shows she has enjoyed over the past thirty years ...

Bacon man belongs in a rehab ...

It's on a loop ...


IF Axl even knows about this in any way ... It's probably because his hatred of the past is easing ... I'm sure his renewed relationship with Duff is a major reason for that

[TheBaconman]

This place is ...

DX doesn't like this ...

Emily scolds him for it ...amazing how many different shows she has enjoyed over the past thirty years ...

Bacon man belongs in a rehab ...

It's on a loop ...


IF Axl even knows about this in any way ... It's probably because his hatred of the past is easing ... I'm sure his renewed relationship with Duff is a major reason for that

Trust me I have no problems with the dx poster

But the rehab won.....


Can't alway be negative dude

Can't alway be about how you have bootlegs

It's not all about you.   

 I am learning that for myself.   Trust me.  It should be all about me.  Haha

[jarmo]

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/jarmo