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Title: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on October 24, 2008, 01:40:33 PM
The first one ive seen so far.................dont think ill bid on this one though
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-CD-Single-Rare-New_W0QQitemZ230303243063QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230303243063&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Guns-N-Roses-Chinese-Democracy-CD-Single-Rare-New_W0QQitemZ230303243063QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230303243063&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177)



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on October 24, 2008, 04:49:14 PM
$38 for one song?

no thank you, i rather pay $15 for 14 songs and wait :)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on October 24, 2008, 08:53:53 PM
$38 for one song?

no thank you, i rather pay $15 for 14 songs and wait :)

It's a collector's item.



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Black Betty on October 24, 2008, 09:22:09 PM
Isn't this illegal, since its not even out for sale yet? Call the FBI now!


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Ulises on October 24, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
$38 for one song?

no thank you, i rather pay $15 for 14 songs and wait :)

I would pay more than 38 bucks.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on October 24, 2008, 10:38:46 PM
$38 for one song?

no thank you, i rather pay $15 for 14 songs and wait :)

I would pay more than 38 bucks.

Don't waste your time on the village idiot man.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on October 25, 2008, 07:46:12 AM
Isn't this illegal, since its not even out for sale yet? Call the FBI now!

its the same promo disc the radio stations have so i presume its not illegal. But i would imagine the disc is not for re-sale,  in which case it would make it illegal..........sort of!


$38 for one song?

no thank you, i rather pay $15 for 14 songs and wait :)

its now at $102.....................some wealthy die hards out there.....its a fucking cool item to have just now, but i rekon in a few months they will be about $15 or so


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: troccoli on October 25, 2008, 03:09:16 PM
Concerning legality:

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2008/06/12/ju...promo-cd-seller

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7450112.stm


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on October 25, 2008, 03:41:20 PM
Concerning legality:

http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2008/06/12/ju...promo-cd-seller

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7450112.stm


WOW......cool articles troccoli  : ok:
good luck if your bidding  :hihi:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Groovie In VT on October 29, 2008, 01:54:55 AM
Its not a silver back? Heck I can make those all day long here at home with my thermal printer I use on DVDs that I produce. Sounds like someone is scamming fans.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: w.axl.rose on October 29, 2008, 04:11:31 AM
Winning bid:   US $158.50


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: AliveOrJustBreathing on October 29, 2008, 06:32:57 AM
Winning bid:   US $158.50

It'll show you how little fate some people have in this album ever getting released


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Mr. Redman on October 29, 2008, 12:08:18 PM
Its not a silver back? Heck I can make those all day long here at home with my thermal printer I use on DVDs that I produce. Sounds like someone is scamming fans.

It's an acetate promo, ain't a scam.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: troccoli on October 29, 2008, 10:30:55 PM
Winning bid:   US $158.50

It'll show you how little fate some people have in this album ever getting released

No, some people just collect Guns N Roses memorabilia and a lot of people on this site and other sites just can't wrap their brain around that.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: MJ23 on October 30, 2008, 04:46:46 AM
I think a collector is a collector.

If someone wants to pay 150 bucks for a promo CD, then it is worth that much for the collector.
I don't see any reason for bashing people who are paying that ammount of money for an item.

Other people spend hundreds of dollars on cigarettes, others drink, others are paying whores, others are addicted to cars ... ...
Where is the difference?

It's not like someone is robbing someone else out in order to be able to buy that item.
It's up to everyone to do what they want with their money.



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Mr. Redman on November 01, 2008, 09:42:44 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/GUNS-N-ROSES-Chinese-Democracy-RARE-PR0MO-CD-Single_W0QQitemZ220304474531QQihZ012QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's a Holland single.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on November 01, 2008, 10:00:00 AM
I thought radio stations were sent the single via internet? Didn't they?


 :peace:


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: AliveOrJustBreathing on November 01, 2008, 10:24:33 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/GUNS-N-ROSES-Chinese-Democracy-RARE-PR0MO-CD-Single_W0QQitemZ220304474531QQihZ012QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's a Holland single.

This one is a fake, the catalogue number doesn't exsist, and as far as Universal are concerned this CD was never given out in this discription


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Dickeye on November 01, 2008, 08:30:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/GUNS-N-ROSES-Chinese-Democracy-RARE-PR0MO-CD-Single_W0QQitemZ220304474531QQihZ012QQcategoryZ307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's a Holland single.

This one is a fake, the catalogue number doesn't exsist, and as far as Universal are concerned this CD was never given out in this discription

Are you sure?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on November 18, 2008, 02:42:51 PM
i just got a chi dem pro cd single on ebay for ?10..................the seller has 3 available 19.99 or best offer............
i offered ?10 and he accepted leaving 2 more available
grab em while you can.........this is cheap as chips if your interested.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=120336158839 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=120336158839)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 15, 2008, 11:56:43 AM
Its not a silver back? Heck I can make those all day long here at home with my thermal printer I use on DVDs that I produce. Sounds like someone is scamming fans.

It's an acetate promo, ain't a scam.
i just got a copy, so it's correct that the back is blue colored and the front is kinda blocked printed?


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 08:56:00 AM
really, no-one can answer my question??


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 09:03:21 AM
really, no-one can answer my question??

is it the acetate you have nightfall?.... if it is then i cant give you a definate answer


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 09:13:37 AM
i have 1 with cover (directly given to me by Universal) but also bought the radio promo....without cover etc..so that's why i want to know whether it's real or not since the quality of the disc and print is very low/bad.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 09:29:35 AM
i have 2 chinese democracy radio promo CD's...... one from U.S and one U.K.
they are both silvers with really bold good quality text.... can you provide pics if poss.
if the print is poor then its not looking good, but i guess thats why your asking. Im not too sure if the acetate is slighlty blue because i dont have one


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 09:36:27 AM
i'll see if i can get it clearly on a photo.

what's an acetate?

It should be the US promo...but i have my doubts because of the poor quality.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 09:41:42 AM
The "CD Acetate" 

When mastering to CD the Recordable CD or CDR is used in a similar way to acetates, with the sound being checked from a CDR.

In the early days of the CD some dealers sold these CDRs for very high prices and referred to then as "CD Acetates". The CDs used genuinely in studio or pressing plant are just as rare as acetates, however the growing availability CD Recorders has made them very easy to duplicate of forge.
CDRs have also become so cheap that they are often used instead of promos, with hundreds being manufactured and distributed.
The term CD Acetate has not survived

http://www.moremusic.co.uk/links/features/acetate.htm#cd (http://www.moremusic.co.uk/links/features/acetate.htm#cd)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 09:44:58 AM
ok 2 pics:
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/598/bild0135fc9.jpg

and
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/899/bild0137ih2.jpg

...sorry for the size...why can't this website resize automatically??



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 10:25:03 AM
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/wadey9/bild0135fc9.jpg)
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q63/wadey9/bild0137ih2.jpg)

i see what you mean about the blue tinting which is different to mine.......
the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.
How does the text compare against your other one?  are there any numbers / codes in the middle near the hole
you could have the acetate which would account for the blue.... but i dont have one to compare with yours.


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 12:07:43 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: anythinggoes II on December 16, 2008, 01:18:51 PM
hey my Better promo is like that, like fine Dotmatrix printing, fuck if it is fake i paid quite a bit for it too, code 7D872c0245680, plus it came in a white protection sleeve, and housed in an Album sized case not single style


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 02:13:57 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480

my code is GNRDEMCDP1.... but i would say you have the acetate probably.
do both of yours have the same code?


EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

if you read the desciption it says that most U.S acetates are gold with a blue back... the one you have does have the gold cast to it with the blue back.



Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: anythinggoes II on December 16, 2008, 02:25:10 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480

my code is GNRDEMCDP1.... but i would say you have the acetate probably.
do both of yours have the same code?


yeah i got that one too with the white sleeve, it even has tiny universal emblem in the center when you move it around

The codes are different, but mine is for a different single (better) just done in same style as Nightfalls, mine is more a greeny blue there is also another code 80 PG7622 outside of the frosted area


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: anythinggoes II on December 16, 2008, 02:29:05 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480

my code is GNRDEMCDP1.... but i would say you have the acetate probably.
do both of yours have the same code?


EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

if you read the desciption it says that most U.S acetates are gold with a blue back... the one you have does have the gold cast to it with the blue back.


My better one is like that also, so maybe it wasnt such a bad deal


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 02:30:50 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480

my code is GNRDEMCDP1.... but i would say you have the acetate probably.
do both of yours have the same code?


EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

if you read the desciption it says that most U.S acetates are gold with a blue back... the one you have does have the gold cast to it with the blue back.


My better one is like that also, so maybe it wasnt such a bad deal

cool... :), sounds like you got the 'better' acetate  8)


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: anythinggoes II on December 16, 2008, 02:37:32 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480

my code is GNRDEMCDP1.... but i would say you have the acetate probably.
do both of yours have the same code?


EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

if you read the desciption it says that most U.S acetates are gold with a blue back... the one you have does have the gold cast to it with the blue back.


My better one is like that also, so maybe it wasnt such a bad deal

cool... :), sounds like you got the 'better' acetate  8)

now i need the chi dem one


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 02:53:57 PM

the black text looks to be in blocks / pixelated....... rather than smoothed edges but that could just be the camera.

that was exactly what i was trying to get in the picture, it really is pixelated.
the middle is a bit frosted with the following letters: LE859C0170480

my code is GNRDEMCDP1.... but i would say you have the acetate probably.
do both of yours have the same code?


EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

if you read the desciption it says that most U.S acetates are gold with a blue back... the one you have does have the gold cast to it with the blue back.


My better one is like that also, so maybe it wasnt such a bad deal

cool... :), sounds like you got the 'better' acetate  8)

now i need the chi dem one

i posted the link for the chi dem acetate from eil.com ?19.99...........


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 02:55:21 PM

EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

i guess i have the same as listed here.....so ending my search for authenticity.

although i can't find that universal logo where anythinggoes II is talking about...


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: wadey on December 16, 2008, 02:57:38 PM

EDIT  this is the Chin Dem acetate as listed eil.com
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544 (http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=455544)

i guess i have the same as listed here.....so ending my search for authenticity.

although i can't find that universal logo where anythinggoes II is talking about...

i think anythiggoes was refering to the standard promo cd and not the acetate


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: Nightfall on December 16, 2008, 03:20:24 PM
i found that logo on the other one i have!


Title: Re: Chinese Democracy promo cd single up on ebay.............
Post by: anythinggoes II on December 16, 2008, 03:40:25 PM
Yeah the standard single for the Universal Logo, and way ahead of you on the Eil CD, look forward to getting it soon  ;D