Here Today... Gone To Hell!

People have asked me to make HTGTH t-shirts available.

This is just the first step in finding out if/how we could actually make it happen.


If you're interested, just vote and we'll see what happens. This is just a way to see what kind of budget this thing could have. Maybe we'll end up with Cafe Press again if the interest is low.....

The prices in the poll are without shipping.




/jarmo

lol, this can be the starts of something big jarmo? ;) the heretoday-cafe? ?:P

Yes, I'm well up for that. I'd even consider a GNR Football Jersey if it could be done (obviously I'd expect to pay more than $10)

Hell yes Jarmo! I'd have one!

Would you have the new Guns logo or something on the back as well? At the london docklands concert in 02 I had HTGTH printed on the back of my UYI t-shirt like they have players names on the back of footy shirts! I guess there were probably other HTGTH users at the concert but they cant have seen it cos, the people who saw it asked me what it stood for! Obviously I explained all about the site, so I'd like to think that there are some people using this site now cos they had a beer and a chat about this site that day in London!!!! ?

I don't think there will be any official GN'R logos on the shirt since those are copyrighted.




/jarmo

WOOT!  I still love my HTGTH NA tour 2002 shirt!

Yer damn skippy I'd buy another shirt!

I'd pay any $$$ amount for one, just please make it cool enough that I can wear it out.  Like, just a white t-shirt with a logo isn't good enough, imo.....

would be great! maybe something like "We`re all GNR fans" on the back or something!

I agree, make it better than the official merchandise. I'm sure a few budding fashion designers on this board could do a great job!

Count me in Jarmo. :)

Where's anarchy when you need him?  He could design a kick ass t-shirt...even without the official logos.  Add in "The most dangerous webmaster in the world's" (aka jarmo) input and I think we'd have some real winners!

 :beer:

I'm right here you big girl! Hmm... t-shirt design.

wasn't there a photo of Axl with a GN'R fan website t-shirt on at a beach or something a few years back?!? ???

Yes, count me in.

I have a request though: A "fit" version for the ladies, please.

from what i recall.... there was a photo take on Axl by a fan
the website/url was addded to the photo to show where the photo was contributed to/by  ;)

I like the idea. Maybe someting like, on the front "HERE TODAY...", and on the back "...GONE TO HELL!". You could throw in GnF'NR somewhere too.

Id definetely buy 1, Make sure there black not white though, Id pay more than 15 but i didnt want the price to be outrageous so i put that, Like 20 like most stores would be cool  : ok:

StoneTempleRoses

Awsome idea Jarmo

count on me for a white one!!

 the new and the old gnr logo together with "here today... gone to hell" would be cool.

As I mentioned earlier, no GN'R logos would be present on the t-shirts since they are copyrighted.




/jarmo

great idea.. do we have any mock up designs yet?

Not yet.

Just checking the interest first and then we'll move onto colors and designs.





/jarmo

Being the website that I have come to dig and love, HTGTH works fine. But If that was on the thing, I won't buy one. Its a reminder of the times (and not the good ones). There were good time for sure during that tour, but it was definitely going downhill then too with things getting too bloated, gay, and all the things we have discussed to death over the years.

Maybe if this had had something more hopeful. Something more pertaining towards right now. Chinese Democracy related.

Or a cool fan statement.

I concur. Male cuts are always too baggy for me, even the smallest size  ;D

I agree. A woman with a nicely "fitted" t-shirt should be a priority.

Word to that..

i think the t shirt is a plan.
when i was is vietnam i found a bar called guns n roses, and they sold t shirts(which i bought) and all they had done was adjust the circle logo and put their adress on the back.

I think it an excellant idea and would definately buy one! ;D

I have always wanted a t-shirt with my favorite webpage's logo so you can defenetly count me in for atleast two, got to keep one unused(future collecters item) and one to wear all the time!!  :hihi: ;D

Seriousely, i'm in for the shirts! : ok:

id like a black one however if u also had a purple one id buy two! : ok:

I think it would look cool with HERE TODAY on the front and GONE TO HELL on the back. in red with maybe like a logo if you can or the bands names or soemthing to do with them anyways..would look cool and maybe our names on them or something if you decide to

there are ways around copyrights


GNR is copyrighted

Guns N Roses copyrighted

but you could use

Guns N' MF'n  Roses
that technically wouldnt be copyright infringement the same way games without licenses can use names similiar to the real guys

Count me in.  I think having no GNR mention on the T-Shirts is a great idea.   ;)

I would be interested in one, particularly in a ladies cut!

Yes I'd love one!  Don't really care how much $$$$....

Jarmo, let me know if you need any help.

-Ignatius

I would love to have one!

Black or white: it doesn't really matter to me...

Good luck & be as creative as you can :beer:

I guess all the ladies in here are in favor of a ladies cut !!  ;D : ok:

i made a little creation in a few seconds, if anyone can host it?

Well, how 'bout a black shirt with the red/orange GN'R star with HTGH written over the front of it instead of GN'R (that way you're really not infringing upon any one specific logo...just a plain star).

Either way, I think on the back it should read Jarmo's sig "When you read this I am Banning you!"   :rofl:

Just an idea.  ;)

use www.tinypic.com? : ok: jarmo's av is cool enough 2 me? :peace:

I've got a few ideas about a cool t-shirt design that I'm working on, I'll show you more tomorrow.

How 'bout something like this (as per my previous post)?


http://www.islandlongproductions.com/_wsn/page4.html

okay, u can find my prototype here: www.mysticymusic.moo.no

 : ok:

count me in, id love one

For those of you wanting to make designs,? the logo has to use the same font used in the logo on the site.

It's called XBAND Rough: http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/preview.pl/fonts/xbandrou.0.zip


Like this:

(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/t-shirts/htgth-soon.jpg)





/jarmo

Sounds pretty cool to me!

/Aaron.

jarmo thats nice! make it black and full of wikud pics of axl an stuff (if ya can).

I personally like simplicity. Says a lot more.

/Aaron.

just a little somethin.. used the axl character from the top of the forum, but didn't use much time to get it detailed.. maybe one could use the siluettes of the rest of the band on the back, don't know

(http://tinypic.com/1ilcah)
(http://tinypic.com/1ilcea)

edit: just a suggestion of the back of the shirt, got the axl a bit more detailed too

that looks great ! let's print that one

Thanks for the font, Jarmo  : ok:


How's this?


http://www.islandlongproductions.com/_wsn/page4.html


BTW...that says "2005" in the white characters (sorry 'bout the small image...crappy website tools).

I`ll take two ! ::) :peace:

I like the first two that wrre shown on this page, no offense but im not stuck on the last one, second opne is the best.. but i think you should put HERE TODAY on the front and GONE TO HELL on the back
 with like axl or something that lets everyone know its a gnr website

I like Spirit's design. Clean and simple  : ok:

Yeah spirits design i nice, and it has a Axls shadow.

Sinshine's is really cool

i dig the star with HTGTH

but

Spirit's is awesome!

i mean seriously that right there is a shirt i want to own!! : ok:

Maybe you'll be offended by this comment, which I hope you are not, but I see no reason to pay more than $10 for a shirt that advertises a fan forum. I love the website. I think that if it would end up costing you more than 10 Jarmo, then you probably shouldn't do it. Just my opinion.

Obviously I'm not doing it for advertising the site since I never was interested in that.




/jarmo

I still like my idea best, Jarmo. It's simple, cost effective and, less is more : ok:

well for my adult basketball league team i have to get tshirts made up of the team name and just to have one made is like 9 bucks US

so the only way to really do it would be to sell em for at least 15 or else jarmo would be losing money.

u have the right to buy or not to buy and i for one will be buying! : ok:

HTGTH
Wanna buy a vowel?

or

HTGTH
You are not your post count

 ;)


/jarmo

awesome idea...

lol jarmo thats hilarious....

we have to throw stuf fon there that represents this board and maybe an axl quote. So like Jarmos quote and then like an Axl quote on cd...like soon isnt the word...or something liek that...

cool ideas...cant wait.....

I got an idea....

how bout we make Axl his very own HTGTH football jersey? I think he would wear that on stage...or if we are lucky in a video.....just a thought

I really like the design spirits design. I think that would be a perfect shirt to order and seems very simple to make.

i still like spirits shirt

but the

you are not your post count is my favorite, that makes sense to people who wont have a clue what the hell HTGTH is

i still like spirits design of course getting that silhouette manufactured probably wouldnt be easy.

NOT to make this a contest (as I don't take this very seriously) but you may run into similar "copywright" problems if Spirit's design is used. I used to work for Getty Images and using a person's (ESPECIALLY A CELEBRITY'S) likeness (ie: their silhouette, a drawing of them, a photograph, etc.) without consent infringes on their rights and you can be held liable for that. The only two surefire ways around it is if the image is used editorially (ie: as Jarmo has on his website) or as obvious parody, but I've seen many scuffles over what is deemed "parody."

Just something to think about. Of course, if these issues don't bother you, go for it. I'm saying that you might as well go for the gusto then and use the Guns N' Roses name then too.  ;)

That's a good point.




/jarmo

i think the idea with an axl quote great.
something like: "it's all greek to me."
or "you wanna know where slash is? he's in my ass!" (although this one would be too controversial)

a possible underline could be: "soon is the word".

just ideas floating in my mind, but there are for sure better quotes.

It is possible to ask the gn'r management for some tips aswell, no? ??? : ok:

HTGTH
Grunge?

HTGTH
APPETITE FOR DEMOCRACY


or something

Yeah man Id wear one


 :peace:

I love Spirit's design

Id like to see the the front of the shirt be the silhouette of Axl and the Site name
then the back would simply say "Spreading Democracy since 1996" (or something along those lines, point out that this has been a strong fan site for 9 years)

(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/t-shirts/htgth_instead_of_work.gif)


 ;)


/jarmo

thats cool!

sorry i'm late, lol

brilliant!!  : ok:

You nailed that one i think! :hihi:

What about a cartoon of Axl & Slash, with the text: Give peace a chance? , and  a cool selfmade logo of Chinese Democraty ,and the text: soon is not the word, and  HTGTH on the back?

(http://tinypic.com/1ilcah)

I really like this...
with something along the lines of the words Jarmo had...
because "I don't know if soon is the word"

I also really like the color scheme of the board itself...
if that can be used...  black/white/grey/red?

i really dig the

HTGTH and underneath it
Here Today........ Gone To Hell


and on the back have that

instead of work since 1996 because soon isnt the word


i like the initials and the name underneath though
i think that looks sweet

I really like the silhouette image also...maybe if there's a copyright issue someone could ask permission to use it?

HTGTH
You are not your post count
this by far, is the best IMO ;) we all know what HTGTH is, so what if no one else does...just tell me where I can order : ok:

Wow, that's great lookin' shirt. I would buy that....

(http://tinypic.com/1nzhv6)

HTGTH
- Because grunge happened to other people

You ain't seen nothing yet:


(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/t-shirts/htgth_pose2.gif)

I think we have a winner. ;)




/jarmo

With sequinned text!

make it stop? :nervous:

please tell me u just didnt u use the word sizzling :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

holy shit!!!!! this board is going fuckin mad! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

here is my shot
(http://bessamk.free.fr/tmp/httgth_01.jpg)
(http://bessamk.free.fr/tmp/httgth_02.jpg)
i no know  :-\
 : ok:

(http://tinypic.com/1nzhv6)

i want this

i think in black and also in white?
or perhaps heather grey (the sweatshirt type grey)
with the red lettering
sweet
*muah!*  :-*
Bellisimo!

with the other sihouettes on the back with the words

"because soon....
      might not be the word"

 : ok:
on the back

I'm with Eva

agreed.  awesome design eva

Thats great for me aswell.

Is demand sufficient enough yet? I can't wait.

Seems like at least 100 people are interested in this so I guess the demand is there.


About the design, I know most of you like the one with the silhouette of Axl. I like it too, but I'm not sure about putting it on a t-shirt that's gonna be sold. It's from a copyrighted photo and I don't know how the copyright owners would feel about that.




/jarmo

im in ill prob buy 2....sign me up

I really like these t-shirts. Congratulations.

OK, I have a stupid question:

Since I'm brazilian, I can't buy it, right?

I think you could.


If we do them, you'll probably pay in advance and then the t-shirt will be shipped to you once they're done.


The reason why you'd pay in advance is because I have no interest in sitting with a few hundred unsold t-shirts..... And end up paying for them myself.



/jarmo

conny is right Jarmo

i think as long as u didnt market the shirt on the website u wouldnt be able to get in any trouble for that silhouette thing.

if we send u money and u send us a shirt what could they do?

have the silhouette of axl with a fist instead of the peace sign then technically it isnt the same.

u cant copyright a silhouette anyway, non gnr fans wouldnt know that was axl, hell make it a little slimmer


good idea about getting the money and then making the shirts however u will get them made a lot cheaper if u order bulk then just doing a few at a time

so are u gonna wait a few weeks till everyone sends in cash and then have them made?

or have them made as u receive the money?

fuck the silouette, think about the slash lovers or the izzy lovers etc..  :hihi:

keep it simple and maybe with one of those little cool lines... maybe we should vote for the line tho if thats the case..

we're supporting or promoting or laughing with the site right, not nesecerraly the gn'r organisation?

 :peace:

Very nice! I like the white t-shirt with front and back. : ok:

I guess the idea is to:

1 - See if there's a demand and if there is, how many we'd print.

2 - Decide on the design. I think the number of colors the design has will affect the price.

3 - Decide on the place where to get them made.

4 - Take orders.

5 - Print them.

6 - Send them out.





/jarmo

Yeah.. And we should get someone send over to our friends in GNR to!   : ok:

I hope so.




/jarmo

I know it's a bit presumptuous of me to suggest using my favorite signature, but...



http://www.islandlongproductions.com/_wsn/page4.html

If the shirts gets done, there won't be any pictures of any band members on the shirts.

No copyrighted logos or anything like that.

I'm not trying to make money off the GN'R name with these shirts.


So the t-shirt might look like this:

HTGTH
heretodaygonetohell.com

and then maybe something on the back.


/jarmo

heretodaygonetohell.com is that 100% sure you have?

heretodaygonetohell.com

of all the sites on the internet its definatly one of them

 :-\

I kinda like that. Sounds familiar ;)

If you wanted to be really silly, the back could have a list of the craziest threads this board has ever seen.  People on the street would look at it and say WTF?

I still like my idea...It would loom cool like this


                                    HERE
                                    TODAY (on the front in red) and

                                   GONE
                                    TO
                                    HELL.... (on the back in red)

Slash dot dash dot slash dot dash dot slash dot dash dot slash dot com.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B0002W4USY001002/0/002-7621339-5018426

HTGTH
heretodaygonetohell.com

and then maybe something on the back. <<< is that gonna be wtitten on the front or?

 :peace:i'm interesting... very nice! : ok:

You should use spirits design, I dont tink anyone would sue you or something.
Its just for your friends at the board, its not gonna make you a millionare I think  :nervous:

I prefer it with no silhouette at all, if not with all the present members'.

jarmo's av is cool enough,
have you taken the decicion that heretodaygonetohell.com are gonna be on or not?

It's very likely that it's gonna be mentioned somewhere.



/jarmo

I hope you mention it.  Most shirts nowadays have a web link or company web page, the weird ones people remember and check them out later so you should definently include that.

then imo, you should leave it like that, you have your av+ heretodaygonetohell.com under in smaller letters??
thats my two cents? :peace:

maybe an short line as an addition if it's better

(http://tinypic.com/1p6pad) <<<having this i vote 4 skippin the star?? :)

i would like to have the gnr star on the shirt together with htgth etc.  i don`t think that you`ll get problems when you use it and why can you use it on your website but not on the shirts?

Because he is not making money on the website, but he will on the shirts.

wasn't "here today... gone to hell" on a GNR tour shirt?  what if that has a copywrite?

nobody liked my ideas ?
http://bessamk.free.fr/tmp/httgth_01.jpg
http://bessamk.free.fr/tmp/httgth_02.jpg

I really really don't. Don't like the design, and the "I know Axl Rose" motto is as cheesy as you can get. Sorry but hey, you asked for our opinion  ;D

Page 6. 8 post down. I said I liked your idea.  : ok:

Well, the fact that it looks almost the same as the gunsnroses.us logo and the fact that it has absolutely no real link to the site means.. no, no I don't.

I rarely wear a white shirt so no  :(

StoneTempleRoses

Don't feel bad, Buggin'...nobody liked mine either.   :P


http://www.islandlongproductions.com/_wsn/page4.html

ajhah, yeah, well, i was trying to take over htgth :)

who is gonna make the shirt ? an online store ?.

Nothing has been decided yet.




/jarmo

why is this reply oh soooo fitting for this board?   ;D

 :rofl:

I Cant Tell You Anything About The SIte...

...But Its Magical and Worth The Search

(http://tinypic.com/1pyyrt)

the things you do when you are bored

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/pc2e958098694c566d179c69f1a44d23f/f525570b.jpg)
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p1772b89dd680d1271c53f04811925e50/f5255570.jpg)

I'd buy one!!! Probably More Than $15.Would you send them to Europe??? Also I think it be cool if you could put all the different names of topics on the home page like Bad Obsession, Nice boys don't play rockn'roll,The Jungle,Appetite For colletion, ect. : ok: Just an idea.

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking: The Newbie?

brilliant idea. i like it.

I Q your t-shirt is amazing

Yeah It looks really nice IQ, so does Spirits :peace:

That really looks cool, I Q, but I don't think Jarmo could use the band images because of copyright issues.? :no:

I love that t-shirt!!!!!!
Would Axl really sue his own fans, dont answer that :)
Anyway as someone said before Here Today Gone To Hell itself might even be a copywright ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking: The Newbie

thanks for the compliments :)

we could always get some members of HTGTH to dress up as the band members and make silhouettes of them...lmao

do you really think those silhouettes are copyrighted? I dont think they copyright everything, like a picture of Axl isnt copyrighted I dont think.

StoneTempleRoses

I'm not 100% positive but I think any "likeness" of Axl would fall under some kind of copyright protection.? Maybe "copyright" isn't the proper term but I think Axl owns the rights to anything like that silhouette or any other likeness.? I think the only reason that Jarmo would be allowed to use that here is because he's not making any money off it.? Using it on a tee that you would charge people for - even if you're not making a profit on it, I think would be a violation of Axl's ownership rights to his likeness.

GypsySoul is right. Like I mentioned in the past, I used to work for a stock photo company (Getty Images) and delt with these issues on a daily basis. Yes, using Axl's or ANYONE'S likeness for ANY purpose other than editorial usage is concidered to be an infringement...not to mention the use of another PHOTOGRAPHER'S property. Using these silhouettes (which originate from someone else's photo...lol...might even be licenced through Getty Images, in fact) would infringe on BOTH the celebrity AND the PHOTOGRAPHER and while chances are they wouldn't sue Jarmo (which is in their rights to do) I'd be willing to bet his phone would be ringing from at least the Photographer (or agency that manages that photo's licence) asking Jarmo to kindly "offer" to pay for the usage of the photo.

Again, that is IF Axl or the Photographer (licencing company) spots it.

Althought...lol...I shit you not...I've run into cases where this same thing has happened BUT it wasn't the photographer or model that found the improper usage, but a random advertising company who calls, let's say Getty Images, and is ready to pay thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands) of dollars to use a particular image and PAYS for exclusive usage rights (meaning Getty Images cannot allow for another advertiser or anyone else for that matter to use the image for whatever reason). A few weeks down the road someone in that advertising firm spots the photo they paid top dollar for exclusive usage for and calls up Getty Images to demand partial refund (which makes Getty Images very upset and an investigation then ensues to find the deviant and make him/her pay for the money Getty Images lost in the sale).

LOL...I'm not trying to put the fear of God into you, but I also wouldn't want to see Jarmo get caught in a mess like this (because that's what it ALWAYS turned out to be...a big fuckin' mess). If you wanted to use a photo such as the silhouettes for private party napkins or something more contained than these shirts, I'd say go for it. But you're talking about 100 - 200 shirts that will be printed up and shipped all across the globe, possibly end up on ebay or on other websites, and are spotted at concerts and other events (not to mention this 8 page thread discussing it blatently). My advise would be, stay away from photographs...period!? : ok:

Use words and allusions to GN'R (ie: chinese writing to allude to chinese democracy, bullets, bullet holes, roses, thorns, etc.) in your final design choice.



P.S. -- I REALLY like your design too, IQ! Realize this post IS NOT purposely attacking YOUR idea, but the idea in general.? :peace:

:rofl:? ?:hihi:? :rofl:

I'd be happy enough with just HTGTH written on the t-shirt :)
But I'm sure some artistic person here could think of a way to guns n' roses on the shirt (not literaly of course? :hihi:)

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

That silhouette could be anybody, so no, I don't think it would fall under that copyright bullshit.

yeah, how can they say it's axl rose, it could be any guy with his arms up?
silouhette are fine. drawing maybe not, but silouhette .....

Only blind people and those who consider Britney Spears "rock" wouldn't recognize that silhouette as Axl.  ::)

didnt you read SINSHINE post?

yes even if its the silouhette they can sue

- There's not gonna be any pictures on the shirt other than the HTGTH logo.

- Guns N' Roses won't be mentioned either.

I'm not interested in finding out I shouldn't have used GN'R's name after been served legal papers.? :P

I don't think I need to use GN'R's name to sell t-shirts. Besides, it's kinda fun having a t-shirt which might not make any sense to most people.? :hihi:

<-- Like the one in my avatar. You could wear it to church and most people wouldn't have any idea what it means. ;)


/jarmo

But have you considered all the money you could make auctioning off that cease & desist order on e-bay?  :hihi:

I don't care what's on it as long as I don't have to wait as long as I've been waiting for CD to get it? ;D
p.s? how's the money transaction gonna work (not that I don't trust you, but more because you probably don't trust me :hihi: ).

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Correct...because it would be matched to the photograph it was taken from.

Trust me. Photographs (other than those taken by Jarmo or commissioned by Jarmo) should NOT be used in ANY way.

We wouldn't want to see Jarmo swapping T-shirt making for licence plate making, now, would we?  ;)

Maybe we would.? :yes:

(http://gypsysoul.lunarpages.com/NY1.jpg)

I want one of these aswell? ;D

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Hey Jarmo,
I know of an internet company that prints t-shirts.  I can create the art work and have it put on different types of shirts.  You can choose shirt types, sizes & colors.  They even have sexy female tops.  I can prepare everything and get it rolling with your permission.  I will design it any way you want (legally) with full color.  Examples of prices are white t-shirts size large full color on the front and back are between $19 and $25 with shipping.  People can purchase them right off of the internet using a credit card.

I think that's a wise idea. However, I'm in favor of having something to depict the band. Something subtle that only a fan would understand (or someone else after having it explained to them). For example, think of all the Fn' (I hate the) Grateful Dead rip off shirts you see around. Maybe the name isn't used on 'em, but you can't copywright the use of a drawn skeleton and that happens to be an image associated with that band.

I think something subtle, that is in no way an infringement, would be coolest. A plain shirt with JUST the abreviation or web address would look too much like an advertisement on a walking billboard.

 :peace:

How 'bout this...


(http://tinypic.com/1raec9)

Sinshine I love that : ok: : ok:
But it might not make any sense after CD is actually released? ????
I also just thought of a new idea we could use the kind of purple or white writing they use in the Gn'R videos I think they use this writing in NR, LALD, DC and Estranged, we could write Chinese Democracy or something in that kind of writing (I think it's Axl's hand writing, he can't copywright that ;D)

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Now that would be funny! ;D

Preacher - "Would you mind leading the congregation in prayer?"

Fan - "Sure."

Preacher - "Nice t-shirt."

Fan - "Thanks."

Preacher - "By the way, what do the initials on your t-shirt stand for?"

Fan - "Here Today...Gone To Hell"

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

nice idea sinshine!

Or...remember those shooting target games at the summer carnivals...the one's with the RED STAR targets??? Remind you of anything related to a certain album title???

(http://tinypic.com/1rar74)

I like this one best how bout with the HTGTH and Soon offset red over grey letters

i like SINSHINE   idea , i think it would be also cool to put a a reference to the cd , like "wait for the democracy" or something like that .

I just want a damn shirt! ;)  get on with it!

Maybe a complete stupid question, but I don't get the funny with "Here Today...Gone To Hell" Please explain for me!

But I really like to have a t-shirt.

Not to complicate things more, but thought I give my two cents...

I have a suggestion to make. Since I'm not too crazy about another black t-shirt, why not having three different background colors ( Just like Contraband) to choose from? We could have a red, a white and a black shirt. Same design, but different background.

The problem with that would be the fact that we'd need to make another logo for the red t-shirt and that would cost more.





That's the site's name, nothing funny there. ;)



/jarmo

With that said, is the possibility of having a white t-shirt available to choose from still open? Since you wouldn't have to make another logo. :)

I think that's possible.




/jarmo

I like the bullet holes scattered better.

Ok, now that it seems like we might actually get an order of 100 shirts, it's time to start looking for possible places where I could get them made.

If you have suggestions, you can post links here or PM me.





/jarmo

Jarmo: That's the site's name, nothing funny there. ;)

Ok, but, i want to know what the phrase means, and what's so special about it, I don't get the meaning. In sweden it would be: "H?r idag...G?tt till helvetet"

Yeah, exactly.


There's another expression, Here Today, Gone Tomorrow. I guess GN'R didn't think that was cool enough. ;)




/jarmo

Thanks, now I understand. I wanna buy a t-shirt anyway and I want it to have as simple design as possible, just "HTGTH" in big red letters would be fine.
Do you think "Atlantica Screen & Profilkl?der" on S?garegatan in Trollh?ttan could help you?

http://www.brunettotshirts.com/


We used them to order shirts for a site I run... I didn't actually handle the process, but according to the guy who did, he highly recomends them.  Sometimes they close up when they have too many clients to handle, but they look alright now.

I'd like to hear from the ladies here.

I found a place with reasonable prices for those shirts, but as far as girl cuts are concerned, you can only have a V neck. Well, actually it's possible to have a round neck, but it requires a special order and it's therefore more expensive.
So, do V necks bother you or are you fine with them?

FINE! actually even better in my opinion....

So is this place your talkin' bout the place jarmo's gonna use, or is he still choosing a place? ??? I'm not a lady, or a female, but I don't think there's anything wrong with V-necks? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

I'm looking at prices and printing places at the moment.

Haven't decided on anything yet.



/jarmo

I like these:
(http://www.tigerprint.nl/uplimages/photo_solctty1100536689.jpg)
*edit* I'm pmming Jarmo about this site ;)

Do you expect guys to wear that? :hihi:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Actually I prefer v-neck. I think they look better.

is that u nightfall

That's Christos, Axlgreece.





/jarmo

Wow, he doesn't look quite the same than when I saw him in London. Amazing how much difference 3 years can make  :o

Cristos is HOT :drool:

and you know what greeks are known to be fan of  8) :rofl:

anyway, hope the shirts get done soon  :P

Thanks mate... Unfortunately 4 u, I'm male.

But just so you know, IF I looked like her, you wouldn't stand a chance...

Yeah, Christos has a thing for administrators who wear glasses.  :-*

 :hihi:


Seems like none of the ladies are objecting the v-neck thing.
I've received some suggestions for printing places and even prices. We'll see what happens.



/jarmo

Jarmo..if you go with the V neck for the girls, please make sure the sizes are available for well endowed women as well :-[ the female cut fits well in most places but the chest region...thanks ;)

you got me curious, whats well endowed?

On the website I recommanded to Jarmo, female cuts are one size only. But don't worry, the shirts can stretch pretty far  ;D
Otherwise you can still go for a regular boy cut ;)

So far we've been in contact with one place. They can offer both regular and girls' shirts as well as doing some of the order on white shirts in addition to black ones. The prices seem reasonable to me.

That's probably the choices you'll have in colors. Black or white. I'd like to offer other colors but then I'd need a new logo and that would cost more. It's kinda pointless to make a new print for three or whatever red shirts.


Right now we're looking at it being like this:


Regular shirt / Girls' fit shirt
Black / white


Edit: Payments will probably be made through Paypal.


/jarmo

What are the sizes your looking at?

S, M, L, XL I guess for the regular ones and one size for the girls' shirt.



/jarmo

And what about the price so far?

I'm not gonna mention any prices until we have decided on the printing place.

I don't want to be saying something and then end up asking for a higher price.

Nothing has been decided yet.




/jarmo

Diffrent logo? you just change the color to black instead of red....and the printer can still use the same design...(atleast that's how it works at a regular printershop...maybe the site you've been contacting works diffrently...to make some more money ;)).

If they use screens they'll need a whole new bunch of screens for every new colour. and that costs more money...

Can you try for XXL's, as well?? I'm 6 ft 3...and even XL's can be a little "short". :)

Even if they're a buck or 2 more (like the last batch)..that's fine.

Nothing has been decided yet, but in the place I found (which is a pretty good contender right now), they make no XXL  :-\

How long can this thing wait?

Do we need an answer in the next 15 days?

Cause I can check what I can do, but I can do it in 2 weeks.

I guess we can wait two weeks....  ;)



/jarmo

Kurt Loder: "Any chance we'll see the new HTGTH shirts soon?"

Jarmo: "I wouldn't say 'soon' is the word..." 

 :P

It's fucking winter here. Not exactly "t-shirt weather" yet. ;)




/jarmo

Hehe, long sleeve t-shirts. Now there's a good idea. : ok: .......j/k, we're gonna drive Jarmo nuts from all our request. :hihi: :hihi:

p.s. I do like the XXL idea if it's feasible.

How about a cape?

matching bandannas?

I want a thong with glittery HTGTH letters  :hihi:

HTGTH= X Line = | Pandora = P

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  H       |                                                                                                                                                                                       P
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So far over the line, that the line is now a dot to you.

How 'bout a guitar strap and picks with HTGTH written on them? : ok:

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Damn it girl...

I love you even more after reading these ideas...  :o  :hihi:

Because you'd love to wear a HTGTH thong too?? :nervous:




/jarmo

No, because I think of a certain someone wearing them right before I rip them in pieces...





P.S.: for AdZ and Jarmo: A woman, older than 18 (and younger than 35)  :P

You can't fool us.


It's snowing outside. Seems like we can give you two weeks to find out about those prices.




/jarmo

Guess what... I don't care. As long as I see those thongs worn by the one I want, I don't fuckin care...  :P

Cool, I'll give you the price in 2 weeks.

Actually, the two weeks started on the 25th:



Get to work.  >:(




/jarmo

fuck yeah...i want a t! i'll pay more than 20 i dont give a fuck :) im not broke lol :P sorryguys.

The One You Want?

(http://www.kinoweb.de/film98/Grease/pix/gr2.jpg)

Blow me.

Will the shirts come in XXX sizes?.

Now Adz thats not very nice, very funny i might add, but not nice................actually who cares carry on!!! I wil buy a shirt ?20 not too bad....

Of course you will.

You and AdZ need to have matching outfits.  : ok:





/jarmo

Only for the dance routine.


(http://mitglied.lycos.de/liberadze/hammer.gif)

Can I have pants like that with HTGTH on them?

I think there'll be pants like that with HTGTH printed on them once MC Hammer makes a comeback..... ;)




/jarmo

The only thing for AdZ & Buckle to fight over now is who wears the black outfit and who wears the red one.

(http://gypsysoul.lunarpages.com/mcblack.jpg)? ? ?(http://gypsysoul.lunarpages.com/mcred.jpg)

Christos, your two weeks are up.  :P




/jarmo

c'mon Jarmo, you know greeks, at least i do  :P

just kidding Cristos, you just take all the time you need!  ;D

No, if he does that we might have t-shirts done around 2015.



/jarmo

Well, at least I have something in common with Axl...  ;)

are the shirts still on hold  ???

StoneTempleRoses

Still waiting for AG's prices.....

AG, you're friggin' slow, man !  :rant:

That was over one week ago.  >:(




/jarmo

Jarmo, maybe you could offer a HTGTH t-shirt to Axl when (if) you interview him one day? ;D
Just bring one with you, maybe he will put it during a show in the future who knows? ;)

I'm trying to find a solution for the girl's t-shirts.

A solution? You mean different sizes?

yeah, but bring it in size XXXXL! ;)

Ok, how is this thing going? We should have the t-shirts by now! :pissedoff:

Summer is coming... ::)

We're taking care of it. Looks like I'll be in charge. There are a few details that still need to be worked out, like.....settling on a final design maybe  ;D

We just got the board back.... ?:nervous:

Anyway, we're gonna get this thing going again.



/jarmo

Cool! Does that mean that we'll have v-necks for the girls? I liked that idea...

I think we agreed on two colors (white and black) and a regular plus a girls' shirt.



/jarmo

Yes you'll have a V neck ;)

Can we somehow consolidate the 2 threads? Or lock part 1 and direct posters to part 2.   Just make life easier to follow the convo.

OK this one is locked to avoid all confusion.