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Title: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: BurningHills on February 07, 2008, 09:53:17 PM
It's over, folks. Just heard from a source that the whole thing is scrapped and supposedly Weiland is headed to rehab. Apparently, he was "a mess" at the L.A. show last night.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: cotis on February 07, 2008, 10:06:43 PM
saw it on the VR.com forum, someone said they called the HOB and they said Scott's going to rehab.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 07, 2008, 10:13:38 PM
Yes it is canceled..."the lead singer went into rehab last night."



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on February 07, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
I hope they are able to help Scott.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 07, 2008, 10:17:29 PM
Yes it is canceled..."the lead singer went into rehab last night."

Source?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 07, 2008, 10:18:29 PM
Yes it is canceled..."the lead singer went into rehab last night."

Source?

I spoke to the House of Blues in San Diego.  That is what I was told.

When I say canceled I mean the San Diego show.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: *Timothy* on February 07, 2008, 10:25:09 PM
when has one canceled added up to a whole tour being canceled.

/most venues don't know shit as for why something in canceled.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: BurningHills on February 07, 2008, 10:27:56 PM
when has one canceled added up to a whole tour being canceled.

/most venues don't know shit as for why something in canceled.

The whole tour is canceled. Trust me.

Stick a fork in VR - they're done.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Angel Down on February 07, 2008, 10:30:20 PM
The Australian tour was originally meant to start in December, then the dates got pushed back into January, then February... Yeh, I think they were meant to be in Australia around about now.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: leatherebel on February 07, 2008, 10:35:03 PM
Where is Jim Bob to explain that this situation is not at all illogical and was long expected  ???

Anyway, sorry for the 1000 fans who had bought tix for tonight's show...

On the bright side, Slash can now resume his magnificent and profitable book signing tour and focus on his solo record.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 07, 2008, 10:59:31 PM
Here we go...

VELVET REVOLVER's SCOTT WEILAND Enters Rehab - Feb. 7, 2008

BLABBERMOUTH.NET has received the following official statement from VELVET REVOLVER:

"Following VELVET REVOLVER's performance last night [Wednesday, February 6] in Los Angeles, lead singer Scott Weiland voluntarily entered a rehab facility. Tonight's San Diego show at the House of Blues has been postponed; the rescheduled date for San Diego is [to be announced]. VELVET REVOLVER deeply apologize to their fans and thank them for sticking by the group."

Weiland was arrested on November 21, 2007 when he crashed his car while driving on an L.A. highway.

He was charged with driving under the influence of drugs with a prior conviction, and with an allegation that he refused a chemical test as required by law.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=90268



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: *Timothy* on February 07, 2008, 11:17:53 PM
well shit happens . I also don;t think this makes thing look good for the STP thing either.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 07, 2008, 11:46:44 PM
It is a wicked fucking disease.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 08, 2008, 12:20:25 AM
Apparently, he was "a mess" at the L.A. show last night.



Can you elaborate?  I just read a review from artistdirect.com of the show and he gave Scott and VR a great review, I also read at another forum from someone who was there and they said about the same thing.

I wonder what prompted this move...right now?



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 12:28:29 AM
Is this the end of Velvet Revolver?  And what of the STP reunion?

Time will tell I suppose.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 12:30:23 AM
This is nuts.  Let the rumors begin.  This blows, even for the lable. 


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 12:31:02 AM
Get ready for onslought of new rumors beginning, probably around tomorrow.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Bodhi on February 08, 2008, 12:40:59 AM
well this blows....while I admit i am far from the biggest Weiland supporter, I dig VR...cool rock n roll band.....


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: kobys on February 08, 2008, 12:47:10 AM
I'm guessing that VR will resume after Mr. Weiland gets out of rehab? On another note, I don't hold out a lot of hope for Scott to stay clean and sober. I mean, look how many times he's been to rehab already. If all of those times failed why would this time be different?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 12:49:10 AM
I'm guessing that VR will resume after Mr. Weiland gets out of rehab? On another note, I don't hold out a lot of hope for Scott to stay clean and sober. I mean, look how many times he's been to rehab already. If all of those times failed why would this time be different?

That's fair and having said that, where do the other four recovering addicts and alcoholics in the band stand?  At a certain point don't you have to draw a line in the sand and protect yourself and your sobriety?

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 08, 2008, 12:58:22 AM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 08, 2008, 01:03:51 AM
 ???

Scott Weiland Back In Rehab

by Paul Cashmere - February 8 2008

Speaking to Undercover News, Australian promoter Chris O'Brien has confirmed that the Aussie tour that kicks off in Brisbane on February 15th is going ahead as planned. "We have not been told that the tour has been affected and right now I can say that it is still 100% going ahead," he said.

The Australian tour, that was to play in December was postponed until February and the Japanese tour was cancelled because of visa problems.

He was due to perform with Velvet Revolver at the Sundance Film Festival on January 20 but that show was cancelled when he couldn't fly out of Miami because of poor weather conditions.

Australian tour dates are:

15 Feb, Brisbane
16 and 17 Feb, Sydney
19 Feb, Melbourne
20 Feb, Adelaide


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 01:28:48 AM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

At a certain point, the other guys have to look out for the best interests of their careers and sobriety.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on February 08, 2008, 01:30:00 AM
The Australian tour begins in one week.

Is one week enough time for a drug addict to get the help he needs?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 08, 2008, 01:34:01 AM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

Agreed, but what does the rest of the band, or anyone, have "under their belt".


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 02:03:07 AM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

Agreed, but what does the rest of the band, or anyone, have "under their belt".

Duff and Slash and Matt and Dave all have their own sobriety.  They have to consider that at a certain point, don't they?  How can it be healthy for them to be continually in close proximity to someone who isn't clean?

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 08, 2008, 02:09:55 AM
Bollocks. It doesn't look good, especially if you read what has been written here. It is not all over, and nor is the tour all over (yet). One show in the US has been postponed, but if Scott really has gone into rehab, it looks like the rest of the dates will be postponed or scrapped.

Does anyone actually know what is going on? Blabbermouth says one show is off, but VR's own site (never the best place for news) says nothing at all.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 08, 2008, 02:37:10 AM
Duff and Slash and Matt and Dave all have their own sobriety.  They have to consider that at a certain point, don't they?  How can it be healthy for them to be continually in close proximity to someone who isn't clean?

Ali

Hell, I thought Matt was a partaker of the sauce as much as anyone.

Not that is a bad thing.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jim Bob on February 08, 2008, 03:29:08 AM
so glad i didn't get tickets for the vegas show.   I was considering it just for shits and giggles..


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 08, 2008, 04:21:35 AM
Blabbermouth now says this:

VELVET REVOLVER's Australian tour will go ahead as planned despite the fact that the group's frontman, Scott Weiland, has just gone back into rehab, Australian promoter Chris O'Brien told Undercover News. "We have not been told that the tour has been affected and right now I can say that it is still 100% going ahead," O'Brien said.

The Australian tour ? which is set to kick off February 15 ? was originally scheduled to take place in December but was postponed and the Japanese tour was cancelled because of visa problems.

In a statement released late last night (and first published by BLABBERMOUTH.NET), VELVET REVOLVER's management confirmed that Weiland "voluntarily entered a rehab facility" following the band's February 6 performance in Los Angeles. As a result, Thursday night's scheduled performance in San Diego was cancelled.

Weiland was arrested on November 21, 2007 when he crashed his car while driving on an L.A. highway.

He was charged with driving under the influence of drugs with a prior conviction, and with an allegation that he refused a chemical test as required by law.

Although he was supposed to perform with VELVET REVOLVER on January 20 at a party in Park City, Utah during the Sundance Film Festival, Weiland was a no-show for the gig. The vocalist's flight to Utah was diverted because of bad weather. The band carried on with the show, inviting audience members and singer Donovan Leitch to pitch in.

VELVET REVOLVER's Australian tour dates are:

Feb. 15 - Convention & Exhibition Centre - Brisbane, Australia
Feb. 16 - Enmore Theatre - Sydney, Australia
Feb. 17 - Enmore Theatre - Sydney, Australia
Feb. 19 - Festival Hall - Melbourne, Australia
Feb. 20 - Thebarton Theatre - Adelaide, Australia



http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=90278


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: kobys on February 08, 2008, 07:58:13 AM
The Australian tour begins in one week.

Is one week enough time for a drug addict to get the help he needs?

I wouldn't think so. I'm wondering if maybe Slash and the guys should be on the lookout for a new singer. With Scott this has just been too recurring.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 08, 2008, 08:18:09 AM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

At a certain point, the other guys have to look out for the best interests of their careers and sobriety.

Ali

Let's not forget, both Matt and Slash both relapsed before Scott's latest...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: seely on February 08, 2008, 09:07:52 AM
In all honesty, i'm amazed Velvet Revolver have lasted as long as they have done. If they survive this, i'll be absolutely gob-smaked

And for the record, i Do like VR, so i'd actually like them to stick together, but realistically..........


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: faldor on February 08, 2008, 09:24:37 AM
The Australian tour begins in one week.

Is one week enough time for a drug addict to get the help he needs?

I wouldn't think so. I'm wondering if maybe Slash and the guys should be on the lookout for a new singer. With Scott this has just been too recurring.
Yeah that would make no sense.  That'd be a half-assed attempt at rehab, to enter for ONE WEEK then go out on a tour on a different continent.  I would fully expect those shows to be cancelled, and if not I'd fully expect Scott to need to re-enter rehab shortly thereafter.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 08, 2008, 10:18:08 AM
wait a minute...I?m close to having a stroke... I had booked a flight to go to Amsterdam to see them there... tell me... the European tour ain?t cancelled right???  :confused: :confused: :nervous:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: kobys on February 08, 2008, 10:20:31 AM
The Australian tour begins in one week.

Is one week enough time for a drug addict to get the help he needs?

I wouldn't think so. I'm wondering if maybe Slash and the guys should be on the lookout for a new singer. With Scott this has just been too recurring.
Yeah that would make no sense.  That'd be a half-assed attempt at rehab, to enter for ONE WEEK then go out on a tour on a different continent.  I would fully expect those shows to be cancelled, and if not I'd fully expect Scott to need to re-enter rehab shortly thereafter.

I really wish the best for Scott and his family, especially his young children. However, I'm realistic in my way of thinking. He's been to rehab so much that I'm just not sure why this time would be any different when he's always managed to relapse the other times. We'll just all have to wait and see what happens.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: MeanBone on February 08, 2008, 10:45:05 AM
wait a minute...I?m close to having a stroke... I had booked a flight to go to Amsterdam to see them there... tell me... the European tour ain?t cancelled right???  :confused: :confused: :nervous:

ahah, pr?xima vez nao contes com o Scott :P


that show is problably scrapped, but time will tell!


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 08, 2008, 11:04:16 AM
wait a minute...I?m close to having a stroke... I had booked a flight to go to Amsterdam to see them there... tell me... the European tour ain?t cancelled right???  :confused: :confused: :nervous:

ahah, pr?xima vez nao contes com o Scott :P


that show is problably scrapped, but time will tell!

ahh n?o me digas isso que me d? uma coisa m?!! Tudo planeado para chegar l? e n?o haver concerto??  :'(

Let?s hope not!!  :no:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 08, 2008, 11:07:24 AM
Seriously...I planned on going to Amsterdam too.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 08, 2008, 11:08:11 AM
Seriously...I planned on going to Amsterdam too.


really??


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 08, 2008, 11:14:51 AM
Yup. I used to live there. The plan was to take the missus for a short break and catch the gig. We'll still go, even if it is cancelled. It would be nice to hook up with some old friends. See if that Japanese place is still open on Beethovenstraat and Dant? on Spuistraat. I recall having some mighty nice food from those places.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 08, 2008, 11:18:23 AM
Yup. I used to live there. The plan was to take the missus for a short break and catch the gig. We'll still go, even if it is cancelled. It would be nice to hook up with some old friends. See if that Japanese place is still open on Beethovenstraat and Dant? on Spuistraat. I recall having some mighty nice food from those places.


that?s great!  : ok: at least you hadn?t booked the flights yet... I had!! Oh well...  :no:  I?m going anyway...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 08, 2008, 11:26:26 AM
The gig hasn't been cancelled yet! No need to give up hope!

You'll enjoy Amsterdam. It's a nice place. We are still going, still hoping the gig will happen.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 08, 2008, 11:34:49 AM
The gig hasn't been cancelled yet! No need to give up hope!

You'll enjoy Amsterdam. It's a nice place. We are still going, still hoping the gig will happen.


Yeah sure! But something really weird is that my friend in Amsterdam has tried to buy the tickets twice already and couldn?t because they ain?t available yet!  :nervous:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 11:39:46 AM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

At a certain point, the other guys have to look out for the best interests of their careers and sobriety.

Ali

Let's not forget, both Matt and Slash both relapsed before Scott's latest...

Matt and Slash may get fucked up, but, unlike Scott, they can still perform and do their thing.  Scott fucked up is a train wreck.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 11:42:06 AM
The gig hasn't been cancelled yet! No need to give up hope!

You'll enjoy Amsterdam. It's a nice place. We are still going, still hoping the gig will happen.


Yeah sure! But something really weird is that my friend in Amsterdam has tried to buy the tickets twice already and couldn?t because they ain?t available yet!  :nervous:


If I go to Amsterdam, its to find Joran Vandersloot, that fucking piece of shit.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lynn1961 on February 08, 2008, 11:42:31 AM
One cancelled show does not make a cancelled tour.  Guess only time will tell what will happen.  We'll know in a week or so.

As for the rehab thing - every one of the members of VR, except Dave, have been to rehab at least once in the last 3 yrs or so, and they've continued on.  I see rehab as being a good thing, although probably ill-timed.  I mean, once an abuser always an abuser, or at least the temptation is always there.  Better to go to rehab and attempt to get oneself back together than to allow things to get further out of control.  This is nothing new for Scott.  We all know that.  This has been an ongoing thing for years.  It's just kind of sad that he relapsed after more than 2 yrs sober.        


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 12:00:32 PM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

At a certain point, the other guys have to look out for the best interests of their careers and sobriety.

Ali

Let's not forget, both Matt and Slash both relapsed before Scott's latest...

When was Slash's last relapse?  Hasn't he been clean since 2005?

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 08, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
One cancelled show does not make a cancelled tour.  Guess only time will tell what will happen.  We'll know in a week or so.   

Considering his problems occurred during a tour and the next leg is starting in a week, will he get the problems sorted in less than a week?

I'm not an expert on rehab or addictions, but a week seems like a short amount of time.






/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 12:08:02 PM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

At a certain point, the other guys have to look out for the best interests of their careers and sobriety.

Ali

Let's not forget, both Matt and Slash both relapsed before Scott's latest...

When was Slash's last relapse?  Hasn't he been clean since 2005?

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali

I think they can find someone that can bring more to the table than weiland.  Plus STP reunion?  Somewhere Josh Todd is laughing. 


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 12:14:37 PM
^Relapse is a part of recovery.

So is actually staying sober.

At a certain point, the other guys have to look out for the best interests of their careers and sobriety.

Ali

Let's not forget, both Matt and Slash both relapsed before Scott's latest...

When was Slash's last relapse?  Hasn't he been clean since 2005?

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali

I think they can find someone that can bring more to the table than weiland.  Plus STP reunion?  Somewhere Josh Todd is laughing. 

Can they find someone?  Josh Todd is definitely out, and so is Baz.  Billy Morrison?  An unknown?

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 08, 2008, 12:37:13 PM

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali

It goes both ways, seeing Slash and Sorum falling into bad habits can't be a good environment for Weiland either.



..and so is Baz. 

Ali

Not sure why his name would even be brought up...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 12:40:23 PM
I wasn't suggesting Todd, just saying somewhere he may be laughing. 

Get Billy Idol in and be done with it.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 08, 2008, 12:41:35 PM
Falcon, would Ian Ashbury (sp) an outside shot?  ha, I know, not a chance in hell.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lakersaregreat on February 08, 2008, 12:43:33 PM
One cancelled show does not make a cancelled tour.  Guess only time will tell what will happen.  We'll know in a week or so.   

Considering his problems occurred during a tour and the next leg is starting in a week, will he get the problems sorted in less than a week?

I'm not an expert on rehab or addictions, but a week seems like a short amount of time.






/jarmo

That sucks for Scott and VR fans, really. Who knows how severe his condition is or why exactly he had to go in? It may be a short term thing, so he could be back in a week. We just don't know the severity. End of day, he's a human being and hope he gets better.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 08, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
This interview is worded so poorly... VR played in Austin TX on Jan. 31st?

Keeping it Together. An Exclusive Conversation with Slash

By Debby Rao, Boston Contributor
Friday, February 8, 2008 @ 0:16 AM

In this Exclusive interview for KNAC.COM, I speak to a witty and charming Slash via telephone in Austin, Texas regarding the Los Angeles show...

KNAC.COM:. Velvet Revolver played The Wiltern in Los Angeles on February 6th. How as that?

SLASH: It is an LA show and definitely the last one on this leg of the tour. So it (has) that sort of hometown kind of thing to it. That said, I have no idea exactly what that means.

KNAC.COM:: I think it means anything can happen.

SLASH: Yeah.

KNAC.COM:: After the U.S. leg of the tour is over, where to?

SLASH: We go to Australia and we do some shows over there. Then we do the UK/Europe tour.

http://knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=6120


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Grouse on February 08, 2008, 01:05:48 PM
If I go to Amsterdam, its to find Joran Vandersloot, that fucking piece of shit.

You won't find him there he's officially gone into hiding hehe  ;)

See if that Japanese place is still open on Beethovenstraat and Dant? on Spuistraat. I recall having some mighty nice food from those places.

Yup I think it's still there believe it's called Meidi-Ya ...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 01:19:45 PM

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali

It goes both ways, seeing Slash and Sorum falling into bad habits can't be a good environment for Weiland either.



..and so is Baz.

Ali

Not sure why his name would even be brought up...

But when did Sorum and Slash relapse?  I saw Slash not too long ago on Montel talking about being sober since 2005.

And Weiland is the one who got arrested recently.  So his issues with sobriety have the potential to limit or take away his freedom and therefore the band's ability to perform.

Baz was brought up because he was technically in the running for the lead singer slot.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 08, 2008, 01:28:27 PM


See if that Japanese place is still open on Beethovenstraat and Dant? on Spuistraat. I recall having some mighty nice food from those places.

Yup I think it's still there believe it's called Meidi-Ya ...


That's the place. Thanks. I left Amsterdam in the summer of 2001, and haven't been back since December of the same year. It will be cool to see how much has changed.

Back to your normal thread now...!


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lynn1961 on February 08, 2008, 01:34:51 PM

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali

It goes both ways, seeing Slash and Sorum falling into bad habits can't be a good environment for Weiland either.



..and so is Baz.

Ali

Not sure why his name would even be brought up...

But when did Sorum and Slash relapse?  I saw Slash not too long ago on Montel talking about being sober since 2005.

And Weiland is the one who got arrested recently.  So his issues with sobriety have the potential to limit or take away his freedom and therefore the band's ability to perform.

Baz was brought up because he was technically in the running for the lead singer slot.

Ali

That's the rehab/relapse, with Slash, I was talking about - 2005 or 2006.  Sorum & Duff were each in rehab, for different things, I think it was in the months preceding that.  So, my point was that they've all continued to have their battles with total sobriety.         


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 01:38:32 PM

In the end, all I'm saying is that they have balance Weiland's best interests with their own.  There has to be a line drawn somewhere so that Weiland doesn't bring everyone else down with his issues.

Ali

It goes both ways, seeing Slash and Sorum falling into bad habits can't be a good environment for Weiland either.



..and so is Baz.

Ali

Not sure why his name would even be brought up...

But when did Sorum and Slash relapse?  I saw Slash not too long ago on Montel talking about being sober since 2005.

And Weiland is the one who got arrested recently.  So his issues with sobriety have the potential to limit or take away his freedom and therefore the band's ability to perform.

Baz was brought up because he was technically in the running for the lead singer slot.

Ali

That's the rehab/relapse, with Slash, I was talking about - 2005 or 2006.  Sorum & Duff were each in rehab, for different things, I think it was in the months preceding that.  So, my point was that they've all continued to have their battles with total sobriety.         

It's not like you are ever "cured" of addiction,  You're always in recovery.  Ultimately, it can't be good for people fighting to be sober to be around someone who is caving into his addictive tendencies.  And how many second chances does someone get before you say, "o.k.  This is not a healthy situation"?

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 08, 2008, 01:45:13 PM
Falcon, would Ian Ashbury (sp) an outside shot?  ha, I know, not a chance in hell.

Ian was approached when it was still "The Project" and subsequently declined their audition request.  Probably not an option this time around either, Cult commitments throughout quite a portion of 08 along with possible appearances with UNKLE and hopefully the work he and Trent Reznor did in 05 finally seeing the light of day.


But when did Sorum and Slash relapse?  I saw Slash not too long ago on Montel talking about being sober since 2005.

Sorum did a stint in rehab after the Contraband tour finally ended (late 06??), pretty sure you're right on Slash and 05.


And Weiland is the one who got arrested recently.  So his issues with sobriety have the potential to limit or take away his freedom and therefore the band's ability to perform.

I see where you're going, all good.  Was just pointing out that Matt and Slash's continuing issues were probably not the best situation for Weiland to be around either.

Baz was brought up because he was technically in the running for the lead singer slot.

But was really never considered beyond the initial (courtesy??) audition for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 02:10:40 PM
Falcon, would Ian Ashbury (sp) an outside shot?  ha, I know, not a chance in hell.

Ian was approached when it was still "The Project" and subsequently declined their audition request.  Probably not an option this time around either, Cult commitments throughout quite a portion of 08 along with possible appearances with UNKLE and hopefully the work he and Trent Reznor did in 05 finally seeing the light of day.


But when did Sorum and Slash relapse?  I saw Slash not too long ago on Montel talking about being sober since 2005.

Sorum did a stint in rehab after the Contraband tour finally ended (late 06??), pretty sure you're right on Slash and 05.


And Weiland is the one who got arrested recently.  So his issues with sobriety have the potential to limit or take away his freedom and therefore the band's ability to perform.

I see where you're going, all good.  Was just pointing out that Matt and Slash's continuing issues were probably not the best situation for Weiland to be around either.

Baz was brought up because he was technically in the running for the lead singer slot.

But was really never considered beyond the initial (courtesy??) audition for obvious reasons.


O.k. I remember what you're saying about Sorum now.  I guess all the guys in the band have to draw the line for themselves between what is acceptable in their fight to maintain sobriety and what isn't.

In the end, for a band of addicts to function, maybe it takes all of them being sober all the time not only for their own individual sakes, but for the sake of not being a bad influence on each other.

They may not have been serious about Baz, but even if for some reason they were willing to give him another look, I don't think he'd do it now.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 08, 2008, 02:19:39 PM
I'm not sure how this can be...but from MTV:

Feb 8 2008 1:25 PM EST

Velvet Revolver Singer Scott Weiland Returns To Rehab

Band's Thursday show has been postponed, but treatment won't derail rockers' upcoming tour plans.


By Chris Harris

Velvet Revolver frontman Scott Weiland ? who has long battled drug and alcohol addiction ? went back to rehab Wednesday night after their gig at the Wiltern in Los Angeles, according to the band's publicist.

"Weiland voluntarily entered a rehab facility" following the group's performance, reads a statement provided to MTV News. "[Thursday's] San Diego show at the House of Blues has been postponed; the rescheduled date for San Diego is TBA. Velvet Revolver deeply apologize to their fans and thank them for sticking by the group."

The statement did not disclose which facility Weiland had entered or for which substance the singer was seeking treatment. According to a source close to the band, Weiland's rehab stay is not expected to affect its future touring plans.

But the move could potentially stand in the way of a much-rumored reunion of the Stone Temple Pilots. Sources who asked to remain anonymous had told MTV News that the band would be revived this summer for a one-off reunion tour of the U.S., but the band and its representatives have yet to confirm the trek. According to sources, negotiations are still ongoing and venues have been reserved throughout the country for the jaunt, with label reps and managers actively trying to secure their bands opening slots on the proposed run.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1581221/20080208/velvet_revolver.jhtml


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
I'm not sure how this can be...but from MTV:

Feb 8 2008 1:25 PM EST

Velvet Revolver Singer Scott Weiland Returns To Rehab

Band's Thursday show has been postponed, but treatment won't derail rockers' upcoming tour plans.


By Chris Harris

Velvet Revolver frontman Scott Weiland ? who has long battled drug and alcohol addiction ? went back to rehab Wednesday night after their gig at the Wiltern in Los Angeles, according to the band's publicist.

"Weiland voluntarily entered a rehab facility" following the group's performance, reads a statement provided to MTV News. "[Thursday's] San Diego show at the House of Blues has been postponed; the rescheduled date for San Diego is TBA. Velvet Revolver deeply apologize to their fans and thank them for sticking by the group."

The statement did not disclose which facility Weiland had entered or for which substance the singer was seeking treatment. According to a source close to the band, Weiland's rehab stay is not expected to affect its future touring plans.

But the move could potentially stand in the way of a much-rumored reunion of the Stone Temple Pilots. Sources who asked to remain anonymous had told MTV News that the band would be revived this summer for a one-off reunion tour of the U.S., but the band and its representatives have yet to confirm the trek. According to sources, negotiations are still ongoing and venues have been reserved throughout the country for the jaunt, with label reps and managers actively trying to secure their bands opening slots on the proposed run.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1581221/20080208/velvet_revolver.jhtml


What the fuck?

The Aussie tour is supposed to start in mid-Feb right?  What the hell kinda treatment program only lasts for a week?  A shit one?

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wando on February 08, 2008, 02:26:53 PM
Maybe Scott isn't back to heroin? Just using something weaker but wants to kick the habit before it gets out of hand? Besides, being on tour, away from U.S. somewhere he hasn't as easy access to drugs can't hurt..


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ali on February 08, 2008, 02:28:40 PM
Maybe Scott isn't back to heroin? Just using something weaker but wants to kick the habit before it gets out of hand? Besides, being on tour, away from U.S. somewhere he hasn't as easy access to drugs can't hurt..

But still, a one week treatment program?  I'm sorry, but that has to be utter horseshit.

Ali


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Trist805 on February 08, 2008, 02:40:28 PM
Something tells me Amsterdam isn't the best place for Scott to go right now lol  I really wanted to go to the LA show, but I couldn't because of school, and I'm kind of glad that I didn't.  That would have been like seeing them at their lowest point.  This whole theatre tour has been kind of a mess because of Weiland.   It would be interesting for the trainwreck effect, but I'd rather see them when they have their shit together.   


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: TWAT RULES on February 08, 2008, 02:51:25 PM
has anyone in the history of music had worse luck with lead singers than slash and duff???  they go from axl, who tried to turn the most kick ass band in rock history into a symphany orchestra techno shit band to scott weiland, the biggest drugie piece of shit in music, who embarrassed slash and duff's reputation with that "bad stp" album libertad.  axl might release new music before slash and duff ever find a singer that's worth a fuck....ok, that's stretching it, axl will never release anymore music, he'll just tour off of 20 year old songs and waste more studio time.  slash and duff should just get back with izzy and let him do the singing, now that would be some good shit!!!


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 08, 2008, 02:55:02 PM
has anyone in the history of music had worse luck with lead singers than slash and duff???  they go from axl, who tried to turn the most kick ass band in rock history into a symphany orchestra techno shit band to scott weiland who is the biggest drugie piece of shit in music, who embarrassed slash and duff's reputation with that "bad stp" album libertad.  axl might release new music before slash and duff ever find a singer that's worth a fuck....ok, that's stretching it, axl will never release anymore music, he'll just tour off of 20 year old songs and waste more studio time.  slash and duff should just get back with izzy and let him do the singing, now that would be some good shit!!!

-1 for bringing Axl up in a thread that has nothing to do with him just so you can try to get a reaction from GN'R fans.

It's trolling. Which we don't like.




/jarmo



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 08, 2008, 03:18:07 PM
has anyone in the history of music had worse luck with lead singers than slash and duff???  they go from axl, who tried to turn the most kick ass band in rock history into a symphany orchestra techno shit band to scott weiland who is the biggest drugie piece of shit in music, who embarrassed slash and duff's reputation with that "bad stp" album libertad.  axl might release new music before slash and duff ever find a singer that's worth a fuck....ok, that's stretching it, axl will never release anymore music, he'll just tour off of 20 year old songs and waste more studio time.  slash and duff should just get back with izzy and let him do the singing, now that would be some good shit!!!

-1 for bringing Axl up in a thread that has nothing to do with him just so you can try to get a reaction from GN'R fans.

It's trolling. Which we don't like.

That's ridiculous.  'TWAT RULES' wasn't doing anything to stir up controversy from Gn'R fans or anyone else.  ::)


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 08, 2008, 03:19:25 PM
has anyone in the history of music had worse luck with lead singers than slash and duff???  they go from axl, who tried to turn the most kick ass band in rock history into a symphany orchestra techno shit band to scott weiland who is the biggest drugie piece of shit in music, who embarrassed slash and duff's reputation with that "bad stp" album libertad.  axl might release new music before slash and duff ever find a singer that's worth a fuck....ok, that's stretching it, axl will never release anymore music, he'll just tour off of 20 year old songs and waste more studio time.  slash and duff should just get back with izzy and let him do the singing, now that would be some good shit!!!

-1 for bringing Axl up in a thread that has nothing to do with him just so you can try to get a reaction from GN'R fans.

It's trolling. Which we don't like.

That's ridiculous.  'TWAT RULES' wasn't doing anything to stir up controversy from Gn'R fans or anyone else. :rolleyes:

Oh right.  ::)

The VR fans need to stop bringing Axl into every thread that has bad news about their favorite band.




/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wando on February 08, 2008, 03:34:31 PM

The VR fans need to stop bringing Axl into every thread that has bad news about their favorite band.




/jarmo

I would hardly call TWAT RULES a VR fan or if he is one he keeps it well hidden. 1) his screen name is TWAT RULES, 2) he has made stunning 2 posts in the VR section (btw, the other one is "i can't stand matt sorum.....what a fucking faggot"). When I agree that TWAT RULES could have made a separate thread about Duffs and Slashs misfortune with lead singers I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Skeletor on February 08, 2008, 03:39:31 PM
That's ridiculous.  'TWAT RULES' wasn't doing anything to stir up controversy from Gn'R fans or anyone else.  ::)

Haha, you're kidding, right?

axl, who tried to turn the most kick ass band in rock history into a symphany orchestra techno shit band


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 08, 2008, 03:50:14 PM
Let's get back on topic... :yes:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: bazgnr on February 08, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
Let's get back on topic... :yes:

Okay, then:

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/02/08/velvet-revolvers-scott-weiland-enters-rehab/


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wheres Izzy on February 08, 2008, 04:28:28 PM
You would think his brothers death from drug use woulda prevented him from yet ANOTHER relapse. It's fucked up if he tries to tour on 1 week of sobriety. Thats a recipe for disaster and a ridiculously stupid idea.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Killingmachine on February 08, 2008, 04:35:43 PM
It's time to look for another singer, Slash and Duff / Velvet Revolver deserves someone much better than Scott.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jim Bob on February 08, 2008, 05:04:46 PM
I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.

then just read every thread in this section.  once something is said that is even slightly negative to anyone in VR, its "oh yea? wel Axl hasn't put out an album"  or some stupid bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic.   ignoring and avoiding the argument and trying to change it into something about Axl.   Typical.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: MikeD on February 08, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
whoa folks, now just because he's in rehab doesn't mean shit. The dude could check out tomorrow and the tour could be back on : ok:
Hell, how many times have them blondes hoes, Brtiney, Lindsey, etc. gone into rehab for five minutes.
Going into rehab doesn't mean crap, unless he was court ordered. Then that's for real.
My guess? He'll be out before this thread hit 10 pages.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 08, 2008, 05:17:09 PM
I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.

then just read every thread in this section.  once something is said that is even slightly negative to anyone in VR, its "oh yea? wel Axl hasn't put out an album"  or some stupid bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic.   ignoring and avoiding the argument and trying to change it into something about Axl.   Typical.

Did you not get the memo?

See below.

Let's get back on topic... :yes:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: TWAT RULES on February 08, 2008, 05:18:12 PM
the comment wasn't about axl, it was about the bullshit with singers that slash and duff have had to put up with throughout their careers.  maybe i was a little extreme, but frustration has gotten the best of me.  what exactly did i say that wasn't the truth anyway?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: WhatIsItMan on February 08, 2008, 05:18:54 PM
Duff's "Loaded" MySpace says there's gonna be a new Loaded album with a world tour.  Everyone know about that?

http://www.myspace.com/loadedlamf


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wheres Izzy on February 08, 2008, 05:25:35 PM
I guess this means so much for a new VR album come spring time. Good news about Duff with Loaded tho. He'll have that, Slash will have his solo album. I woulda liked to have heard what album number 3 ended up sounding like, however there are too many signs that this band isn't meant to last as long as it has, let alone any longer. You got 4/5 of the band relapsing between this tour and the last plus all the STP talk and multiple members talking about solo records.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 08, 2008, 05:39:20 PM
... What the hell kinda treatment program only lasts for a week?  A shit one?

Ali

Programs can be anything from outpatient to intensive inpatient treatment.

No one person is the same, however, most professionals advise concurrent counseling/group for any treatment to be successful, and that probably can't occur on a tour. Though, it is not impossible.

From recent statements and actions from the band, it looks as though they are imploding. Time will tell.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 08, 2008, 05:59:35 PM
It looks like Slash did perform last night...but with Fergie:

 Friday, February 08, 2008
Fergie Gives Back with the Peapod Foundation

Last night was a big night for the Peapod Foundation.  The Black Eyed Peas showed up and did a benefit concert, and shared their hearts about helping out the less fortunate.

Along with the ?Get it Started? crew, a there were a couple other celebrity appearances during the night.  Velvet Revolver axeman Slash joined the Peas onstage, and Natasha Bedingfield even showed up for a performance.

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=303884&s=slash&sfld=C&vwmd=e



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 08, 2008, 06:18:44 PM
It looks like Slash did perform last night...but with Fergie:

 Friday, February 08, 2008
Fergie Gives Back with the Peapod Foundation

Last night was a big night for the Peapod Foundation.  The Black Eyed Peas showed up and did a benefit concert, and shared their hearts about helping out the less fortunate.

Along with the ?Get it Started? crew, a there were a couple other celebrity appearances during the night.  Velvet Revolver axeman Slash joined the Peas onstage, and Natasha Bedingfield even showed up for a performance.

http://www.wireimage.com/SearchResults.aspx?igi=303884&s=slash&sfld=C&vwmd=e




lol good for Fergie!   ::)


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wheres Izzy on February 08, 2008, 07:01:19 PM
... What the hell kinda treatment program only lasts for a week?  A shit one?

Ali

Programs can be anything from outpatient to intensive inpatient treatment.

No one person is the same, however, most professionals advise concurrent counseling/group for any treatment to be successful, and that probably can't occur on a tour. Though, it is not impossible.

From recent statements and actions from the band, it looks as though they are imploding. Time will tell.



Yeah...however with someone who has had a drug problem for almost 2 decades and has relapsed probably a dozen times and been to rehab a dozen times it's unrealistic to think he should be in a treatment program for less than 6 months at least.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 08, 2008, 07:22:45 PM
He was arrested in November after ending the North American tour in late October.

The shows in Australia which were supposed to take place in early December were postponed due to "health reasons (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22847898-7642,00.html)".

Then on December 12th, they played a postponed L.A. show and a few NYE shows before starting the tour in late January.


Maybe he was in rehab already last year?

If he was, obviously it only helped for a while...



/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jim Bob on February 08, 2008, 08:12:50 PM
I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.

then just read every thread in this section.  once something is said that is even slightly negative to anyone in VR, its "oh yea? wel Axl hasn't put out an album"  or some stupid bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic.   ignoring and avoiding the argument and trying to change it into something about Axl.   Typical.

Did you not get the memo?

See below.

Let's get back on topic... :yes:

ok, remember that next time I complain that someone brought Axl into the discussion rather than spouting out your usual "but it is a GnR board"


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Alan on February 08, 2008, 08:45:30 PM
from what a member on VR forum who has contact with the band says it's not due to drugs, but alcohol.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 08, 2008, 11:28:21 PM
from what a member on VR forum who has contact with the band says it's not due to drugs, but alcohol.

Possibly...but when he was arrested in November he showed signs of impairment and failed field sobriety tests, and he refused to take a blood or urine test.  He voluntarily took a breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit.

Does that sound like alcohol?

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=86090




Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lynn1961 on February 09, 2008, 12:30:30 AM
Duff's "Loaded" MySpace says there's gonna be a new Loaded album with a world tour.  Everyone know about that?

http://www.myspace.com/loadedlamf

Duff's not in Loaded, right now.  So this album and tour don't involve him, as far as I know.....


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: r3dhawk6 on February 09, 2008, 01:30:38 AM
Duff's not in Loaded, right now.  So this album and tour don't involve him, as far as I know.....

that's too bad...Duff is a legend and I'm going to miss him and the rest of the guys if in fact we have seen and heard the last of VR...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Nightfall on February 09, 2008, 03:13:58 AM
syas so on the myspace page:
The current line-up features drummer Geoff Reading (New American Shame, Green Apple Quickstep), bassist Jeff Rouse and guitarist Mike Squires (both formerly of Alien Crime Syndicate)


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: WhatIsItMan on February 09, 2008, 03:24:27 AM
Duff's "Loaded" MySpace says there's gonna be a new Loaded album with a world tour.  Everyone know about that?

http://www.myspace.com/loadedlamf

Duff's not in Loaded, right now.  So this album and tour don't involve him, as far as I know.....

So who's gonna sing?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: kimberly on February 09, 2008, 04:56:55 AM
The gig hasn't been cancelled yet! No need to give up hope!

You'll enjoy Amsterdam. It's a nice place. We are still going, still hoping the gig will happen.


Yeah sure! But something really weird is that my friend in Amsterdam has tried to buy the tickets twice already and couldn?t because they ain?t available yet!  :nervous:
really? where did your friend try to buy the tickets from? I ordered them online 2 months ago at http://www.ticketservice.nl and they arrived the next day. He/she might want to try that adress...I checked and gig hasn't sold out yet.

Good for Scott that he went back to rehab, hope he can get his shit together....having said that, I'm going to be SO dissapointed if they cancel the Amsterdam gig  :(


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Alan on February 09, 2008, 10:41:59 AM
Duff's not in Loaded, right now.  So this album and tour don't involve him, as far as I know.....

that's too bad...Duff is a legend and I'm going to miss him and the rest of the guys if in fact we have seen and heard the last of VR...

duff played with loaded in december 07 as he has done around christmas for the past few years. i can't see him not being on tour with his band if VR are in down time.


and also.
Member Since: 12/09/2007
Band Members: Duff McKagan, Geoff Reading, Jeff Rouse, Mike Squires


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: DeN on February 09, 2008, 10:59:00 AM
maybe it's time for duff & slash to move on and to create a true rock n'roll band.
take a punk singer, guys.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 09, 2008, 03:43:15 PM
I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.

then just read every thread in this section.  once something is said that is even slightly negative to anyone in VR, its "oh yea? wel Axl hasn't put out an album"  or some stupid bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic.   ignoring and avoiding the argument and trying to change it into something about Axl.   Typical.

Did you not get the memo?

See below.

Let's get back on topic... :yes:

ok, remember that next time I complain that someone brought Axl into the discussion rather than spouting out your usual "but it is a GnR board"


Here's an idea...

Quit complaining.

It's as repetive as the same people who bring Axl into discussion here or Slash on the GNR side.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 09, 2008, 06:03:23 PM
The gig hasn't been cancelled yet! No need to give up hope!

You'll enjoy Amsterdam. It's a nice place. We are still going, still hoping the gig will happen.


Yeah sure! But something really weird is that my friend in Amsterdam has tried to buy the tickets twice already and couldn?t because they ain?t available yet!  :nervous:
really? where did your friend try to buy the tickets from? I ordered them online 2 months ago at http://www.ticketservice.nl and they arrived the next day. He/she might want to try that adress...I checked and gig hasn't sold out yet.

Thanks for the tip  : ok:. He didn?t try the online site yet. He had just been searching on ticket sales posts with no luck yet...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jim Bob on February 09, 2008, 07:13:18 PM
I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.

then just read every thread in this section.  once something is said that is even slightly negative to anyone in VR, its "oh yea? wel Axl hasn't put out an album"  or some stupid bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic.   ignoring and avoiding the argument and trying to change it into something about Axl.   Typical.

Did you not get the memo?

See below.

Let's get back on topic... :yes:

ok, remember that next time I complain that someone brought Axl into the discussion rather than spouting out your usual "but it is a GnR board"


Here's an idea...

Quit complaining.

It's as repetive as the same people who bring Axl into discussion here or Slash on the GNR side.



when I tell someone they are posting bullshit for bringing up anything wrong with Axl in order to defend Slash, thats exactly what you will post, "well it is a GnR board".  ::)    now you are all about staying on topic.    I agree with staying on topic, its a great concept.. it'd be nice if you believed that 100% of time.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: RoxyCotton on February 09, 2008, 07:18:37 PM
Duff and Slash and Matt and Dave all have their own sobriety.  They have to consider that at a certain point, don't they?  How can it be healthy for them to be continually in close proximity to someone who isn't clean?

Ali

Hell, I thought Matt was a partaker of the sauce as much as anyone.

Not that is a bad thing.

he only drinks...doesn't do any drugs...I asked him if he wanted to smoke a joint with me not too long ago and he said he hasn't smoked in a long time.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: gnr2k6 on February 09, 2008, 07:33:18 PM
it is drinking not drugs....trust me I KNOW!


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 09, 2008, 08:09:20 PM
it is drinking not drugs....trust me I KNOW!

And do you know if the Aussie tour will go ahead as planned?




/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lakersaregreat on February 09, 2008, 08:11:11 PM
it is drinking not drugs....trust me I KNOW!

And do you know if the Aussie tour will go ahead as planned?




/jarmo

Why are you so interested? Are you planning on going?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 09, 2008, 08:21:05 PM
it is drinking not drugs....trust me I KNOW!

And do you know if the Aussie tour will go ahead as planned?




/jarmo

Why are you so interested? Are you planning on going?


Why are you stalking me ibeli... lakersaregreat?  ::)


I think the people who have tickets are very interested.

Some of them post here.



If you don't have anything to add to the discussion, stay out. Thanks! : ok:





/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lakersaregreat on February 09, 2008, 08:24:49 PM
it is drinking not drugs....trust me I KNOW!

And do you know if the Aussie tour will go ahead as planned?




/jarmo

Why are you so interested? Are you planning on going?


Why are you stalking me ibeli... lakersaregreat?  ::)


I think the people who have tickets are very interested.

Some of them post here.



If you don't have anything to add to the discussion, stay out. Thanks! : ok:





/jarmo


Im just curious. Is that ok? You don't seem to like VR, so why so curious about the status of the tour? If VR fans are interested, Im sure they will ask around. It was nice of you to speak for them, though...


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Falcon on February 09, 2008, 08:30:19 PM
I don't understand the generalisation that VR fans need to bring up Axl in every thread, which includes bad news about VR - just like this time, it was done by a troll.

then just read every thread in this section.  once something is said that is even slightly negative to anyone in VR, its "oh yea? wel Axl hasn't put out an album"  or some stupid bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic.   ignoring and avoiding the argument and trying to change it into something about Axl.   Typical.

Did you not get the memo?

See below.

Let's get back on topic... :yes:

ok, remember that next time I complain that someone brought Axl into the discussion rather than spouting out your usual "but it is a GnR board"


Here's an idea...

Quit complaining.

It's as repetive as the same people who bring Axl into discussion here or Slash on the GNR side.



when I tell someone they are posting bullshit for bringing up anything wrong with Axl in order to defend Slash, thats exactly what you will post, "well it is a GnR board".  ::)    now you are all about staying on topic.    I agree with staying on topic, its a great concept.. it'd be nice if you believed that 100% of time.

Jarmo addressed the issue below, no need to keep inciting when the situation had absolutely nothing to do with you. ::)

-1 for bringing Axl up in a thread that has nothing to do with him just so you can try to get a reaction from GN'R fans.
It's trolling. Which we don't like.

/jarmo

I do believe it is indeed a "GNR board" 100% of the time and mentions of Axl will invariably creep into other parts of the forum, I tend to let it play itself out naturally.  However, this is/was a thread
Jarmo didn't want going in that direction and I will respect that direction by steering it back to "on topic" discussions and away from your parroting act.

If you feel the need to discuss further, do so via PM or in the admin section.

And that's not a request...

On topic.

Mentioned in another thread but worth a look here as well. Matt Sorum may be on Camp Freddy Radio tonight at 6pm Pacific.

Listen live here linky here:

http://www.indie1031.fm/index.php





Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 09, 2008, 08:40:22 PM
Im just curious. Is that ok? You don't seem to like VR, so why so curious about the status of the tour? If VR fans are interested, Im sure they will ask around. It was nice of you to speak for them, though...

Are you in this section because of VR or because of me?

 :rofl:



/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: gnr2k6 on February 09, 2008, 09:37:42 PM
i dont know about the aussie shows mate, matt just told me that san diego was off.....who knows.....i didnt ask anything as its not my buisness.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 09, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
it is drinking not drugs....trust me I KNOW!

What not drugs. Heroin, dilaudid, contins ... caffine, nicotine, or my good friend, alcohol?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: gnr2k6 on February 09, 2008, 09:57:35 PM
all i know is he has been drinking but thats no secret


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lakersaregreat on February 09, 2008, 11:03:55 PM
Im just curious. Is that ok? You don't seem to like VR, so why so curious about the status of the tour? If VR fans are interested, Im sure they will ask around. It was nice of you to speak for them, though...

Are you in this section because of VR or because of me?

 :rofl:



/jarmo


Sorry, you are not that important to me. I do like to read and comment on some threads, if that's ok with you.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 09, 2008, 11:15:45 PM
Sorry, you are not that important to me.

Whatever you say.  : ok:




Matt didn't say shit about VR on the radio....

He was promoting his clothing line though.




/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 10, 2008, 08:17:42 AM
Sorry, you are not that important to me.



Matt didn't say shit about VR on the radio....

He was promoting his clothing line though.




/jarmo

Lol really??  :hihi:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: CheapJon on February 10, 2008, 08:34:41 AM
Sorry, you are not that important to me.



Matt didn't say shit about VR on the radio....

He was promoting his clothing line though.




/jarmo

Lol really??  :hihi:

yes i'm sure jarmo is speaking the truth..

how's it going with finding baz speaking of duff and slash in a "resentful tone" in angel down interviews?   ;)


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 10, 2008, 11:28:35 AM
Sorry, you are not that important to me.



Matt didn't say shit about VR on the radio....

He was promoting his clothing line though.




/jarmo

Lol really??  :hihi:

yes i'm sure jarmo is speaking the truth..


I was being ironic... : ok:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: CheapJon on February 10, 2008, 11:45:08 AM

I was being ironic... : ok:

yeah i understood that, you dodged my question though :-\


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 10, 2008, 01:27:12 PM

I was being ironic... : ok:

yeah i understood that, you dodged my question though :-\

lol why are you picking on me? Yes.. you won that one... Happy??  : ok:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: CheapJon on February 10, 2008, 02:32:55 PM

I was being ironic... : ok:

yeah i understood that, you dodged my question though :-\

lol why are you picking on me? Yes.. you won that one... Happy??  : ok:

Yes I can die happy now :)


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jizzo on February 10, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
i think this title is misleading. the cancelation of one show doesnt mean a tour is cancelled.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 10, 2008, 07:31:48 PM
VELVET REVOLVER Cancels Australian Tour - Feb. 10, 2008

According to Undercover News, VELVET REVOLVER has cancelled this week's Australian tour, just days after singer Scott Weiland voluntarily entered a rehab facility.

As of late last week, the Aussie shows were still planned to go ahead, according to promoter Chris O'Brien, but today the band has pulled out of the tour.

The official statement from KWS Productions reads as follows: "VELVET REVOLVER regret to announce they're unable to perform their five upcoming concert dates in Australia that were scheduled for February 15-20. The cancellation of these shows will allow lead singer Scott Weiland to continue treatment at a rehab facility which he voluntarily entered after the band's February 6 performance in Los Angeles. VELVET REVOLVER deeply apologize to their fans in Australia and thank them for sticking by the group when various members have relapsed during the last year and a half. The band ? lead vocalist Scott Weiland, guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagan, drummer Matt Sorum and guitarist Dave Kushner ? are on track to perform at the Dubai Desert Rock Fest in Dubai, UAE on March 8, to be followed by their UK tour March 15-27."

Tickets can be taken back to point of purchase for a refund.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=90428


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 10, 2008, 07:32:09 PM
i think this title is misleading. the cancelation of one show doesnt mean a tour is cancelled.

The first Australian show is in just a couple of days.

I assume that the band would arrive there earlier than on show day.....

We should know soon enough.




Edit: Well, there you go!



/jarmo



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jim Bob on February 10, 2008, 08:11:31 PM
stick a fork in em.. they are done.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: faldor on February 10, 2008, 08:28:02 PM
I'd have to agree.  The writing seems to be on the wall, as they say.  From the rehab and the problems Scott has caused the band in the recent months, to the STP reunion.  It certainly seems to be the end.  It was a good run, but I'd have to say a little unfulfilling, if it is indeed over.  In other words, I expected far more from this lineup.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 10, 2008, 08:29:16 PM
i think this title is misleading. the cancelation of one show doesnt mean a tour is cancelled.

I second you on that.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wando on February 10, 2008, 08:37:11 PM
Sorry for anyone who was going.. http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=VELVETRE07&searchId=d4cad6fd-81a1-49ee-bb4a-339e4772bde7


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 10, 2008, 08:51:41 PM
i think this title is misleading. the cancelation of one show doesnt mean a tour is cancelled.

I second you on that.

AUSTRALIA IS CANCELLED

It was supposed to be a tour right?




/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jizzo on February 10, 2008, 09:46:45 PM
the australian tour wasn't cancelled when i posted.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 10, 2008, 10:18:01 PM
the australian tour wasn't cancelled when i posted.

You were five minutes too fast. ;)



/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jizzo on February 10, 2008, 10:29:44 PM
the australian tour wasn't cancelled when i posted.

You were five minutes too fast. ;)



/jarmo
I know that alot people don't like Velvet Revolver, im just holding out hope that its too soon to throw dirt on the bands grave. I guess that not wanting one of my favorite bands to break up is worth the negative karma for stating a fact that now has been disproven by the australian tour's cancelation


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 10, 2008, 10:34:10 PM
I guess that not wanting one of my favorite bands to break up is worth the negative karma for stating a fact that now has been disproven by the australian tour's cancelation

I'm not responsible for that one.

I don't know who is, but I'll take care of it.


In addition, I think it was fair to keep the thread title since it was unlikely (in my opinion) that the band would go to Australia in less than a week after Scott went to rehab.




/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Jizzo on February 10, 2008, 10:38:30 PM
I guess that not wanting one of my favorite bands to break up is worth the negative karma for stating a fact that now has been disproven by the australian tour's cancelation

I'm not responsible for that one.

I don't know who is, but I'll take care of it.


In addition, I think it was fair to keep the thread title since it was unlikely (in my opinion) that the band would go to Australia in less than a week after Scott went to rehab.




/jarmo

now the thread title fits, so of course it should stay.

i just help scott can get the help he needs so he can get back to doing what his job, whether thats the frontman of Velvet Revolver or Stone Temple Pilots or as I hope the frontman of both


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on February 10, 2008, 11:29:53 PM
Its a shame.  I really enjoy Libertad.  And Scott when sober is a cool chille out dude.  I hope he finds his way.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 11, 2008, 12:04:21 AM
I listened to Libertad deluxe version tonight thinking the band was over.  There is a shit load of talent in this band.  On the album, Scott sounds fantastic on some songs.  I just feel like this band never quite got there musically for what they are capable of.  You get glimpses on libertad. I was hopeful the 3rd album would be the charm.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: lynn1961 on February 11, 2008, 12:39:40 AM
Well...they're still scheduled for Europe, in a month....that gives Scott almost a month in rehab  :nervous:....we'll have to see what happens. 

Everyone's talking like it's over.  Maybe it is.  Then, maybe it's not.  I'm not ready to throw in the proverbial "towel" on this band, yet. 


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 11, 2008, 12:54:16 AM
Maybe the people that "matter" are giving up?

Who'll book them if they plan on going back to Australia?

Their touring market is shrinking....






/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: twatty on February 11, 2008, 05:38:22 AM
Maybe the people that "matter" are giving up?

Who'll book them if they plan on going back to Australia?

Their touring market is shrinking....






/jarmo


I can't guarantee I'll re book, I lost plenty of money on airfares and accomodation the first time as they postponed too close to the scheduled dates and now with the cancellation I'll lose out as I'm flying to Sydney and staying for 3 days with no show to see!


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Genesis on February 11, 2008, 06:02:22 AM
Maybe the people that "matter" are giving up?

Who'll book them if they plan on going back to Australia?

Their touring market is shrinking....






/jarmo


I can't guarantee I'll re book, I lost plenty of money on airfares and accomodation the first time as they postponed too close to the scheduled dates and now with the cancellation I'll lose out as I'm flying to Sydney and staying for 3 days with no show to see!

VR fucking sucks. Yes, I said it. This sort of behavior is inexcusable. I hope they sack Scott and start looking for another vocalist or that Slash would start work on his solo album. :P


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wheres Izzy on February 11, 2008, 08:23:20 AM
Maybe the people that "matter" are giving up?

Who'll book them if they plan on going back to Australia?

Their touring market is shrinking....






/jarmo


I can't guarantee I'll re book, I lost plenty of money on airfares and accomodation the first time as they postponed too close to the scheduled dates and now with the cancellation I'll lose out as I'm flying to Sydney and staying for 3 days with no show to see!

VR fucking sucks. Yes, I said it. This sort of behavior is inexcusable. I hope they sack Scott and start looking for another vocalist or that Slash would start work on his solo album. :P


I don't know if they would go that route. I think if things have gone too far for them to continue with Scott than the band is pretty much done. I don't think they want to go through the non-sense of auditioning singers and trying to do the whole thing over at this point when theres so many other things that they could work on. And I love Slash but I think a lot of people are setting themselves up for a big let down with this solo album talk. I feel pretty confident it's gonna be very Santana-esque. A whole bunch of popstars making there own songs with Slash playing a little solo now and then.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: cfcsfc on February 11, 2008, 08:25:30 AM
Fuck VR, and especially fuck Scott.
Way to fuck over the (few remaining) fans they have in Aus. Being forced to cancel a tour because the singer has no control is a fucking disgrace.
I wish the pricks could have announced this a few days earlier so I could have gotten a refund of my ticket and go to Maidens second show aswell.
Well fuck 'em. Just won't waste my money on them if they decide to come down again.
And if Slash and co decide to stick together they better ditch that fucking junkie.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Billo on February 11, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
Yep..im VERRY annoyed about the tour being canceled AGAIN :no:
But as we know being guns fans shit happens  :peace:
But i still love VR and im not going to write a stupid post saying how much i hate them.. :peace:
There an awesome group i just hope they get there shit together and come back soon.. : ok:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: maurito148 on February 11, 2008, 02:21:17 PM
Fuck VR, and especially fuck Scott.
Way to fuck over the (few remaining) fans they have in Aus. Being forced to cancel a tour because the singer has no control is a fucking disgrace.
I wish the pricks could have announced this a few days earlier so I could have gotten a refund of my ticket and go to Maidens second show aswell.
Well fuck 'em. Just won't waste my money on them if they decide to come down again.
And if Slash and co decide to stick together they better ditch that fucking junkie.

A man who have a health problem, could lost his life while you only lost some bucks./ Think man.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Alan on February 11, 2008, 05:18:44 PM
some people would have been happier if scott had gone over there OD'd and died, just so they get a chance to see the band.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: williambailey on February 11, 2008, 05:47:34 PM
I have to say I'm not surprised but it does fucken suck for people who had organised themselves for it, paid airfares etc etc.

I was going to fly with a mate over to Sydney to catch their 2 shows there, but was seriously concerned that it may be cancelled.  So we decided to leave everything to the last possible minute before we booked flights etc and just take our chances that we could still make it there and get tickets etc.

Just as well!!  Selfish megaphone waifboy  :rant:

I would have to think that's it for VR, the rest of the band must be bloody pissed off with situation.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 11, 2008, 06:08:55 PM
i think this title is misleading. the cancelation of one show doesnt mean a tour is cancelled.

I second you on that.

AUSTRALIA IS CANCELLED

It was supposed to be a tour right?




/jarmo

Jarmo... I don?t think the thread title fits. It?s the australian tour who was cancelled (sadly for the fans). The European wasn?t. So, if any fan who is going to a show in Europe comes here and see this title, he will immediately be lead to think that the WHOLE tour was cancelled. So, again, the title should be Australian tour cancelled... and not this one which leads to generalization.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: cfcsfc on February 11, 2008, 06:39:13 PM
Fuck VR, and especially fuck Scott.
Way to fuck over the (few remaining) fans they have in Aus. Being forced to cancel a tour because the singer has no control is a fucking disgrace.
I wish the pricks could have announced this a few days earlier so I could have gotten a refund of my ticket and go to Maidens second show aswell.
Well fuck 'em. Just won't waste my money on them if they decide to come down again.
And if Slash and co decide to stick together they better ditch that fucking junkie.

A man who have a health problem, could lost his life while you only lost some bucks./ Think man.

I'm not responsible for his health, it's not my real concern. As a fan of music that is my concern and that's what's suffered. I don't care about the cash- I'll get that back. I care that his lack of control has screwed over fans, and my chance to see them.
Also, as far as I'm concerned, alcohol abuse isn't a health problem. It's a lack of control. If it was a disease or something that was a health problem, I'd symphasise. But this is just pathetic.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: suicide on February 12, 2008, 06:16:54 AM
Jarmo... I don?t think the thread title fits. It?s the australian tour who was cancelled (sadly for the fans). The European wasn?t. So, if any fan who is going to a show in Europe comes here and see this title, he will immediately be lead to think that the WHOLE tour was cancelled. So, again, the title should be Australian tour cancelled... and not this one which leads to generalization.
I agree with you Ines. The title does suggest that all dates are cancelled.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: LunsJail on February 12, 2008, 10:22:45 AM
Jarmo... I don?t think the thread title fits. It?s the australian tour who was cancelled (sadly for the fans). The European wasn?t. So, if any fan who is going to a show in Europe comes here and see this title, he will immediately be lead to think that the WHOLE tour was cancelled. So, again, the title should be Australian tour cancelled... and not this one which leads to generalization.
I agree with you Ines. The title does suggest that all dates are cancelled.

It will be correct soon enough.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: suicide on February 12, 2008, 10:59:29 AM
Jarmo... I don?t think the thread title fits. It?s the australian tour who was cancelled (sadly for the fans). The European wasn?t. So, if any fan who is going to a show in Europe comes here and see this title, he will immediately be lead to think that the WHOLE tour was cancelled. So, again, the title should be Australian tour cancelled... and not this one which leads to generalization.
I agree with you Ines. The title does suggest that all dates are cancelled.

It will be correct soon enough.
Thank you very much!


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 12, 2008, 11:28:59 AM
I think the gist behind that post was that the tour will soon be cancelled, not that the thread title will be changed.

You see, there are people here who dislike VR so much that they will not be happy until people who do like VR are not.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 12, 2008, 11:36:12 AM
Well... someone just changed the title!!  :peace:


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: manicstreet on February 13, 2008, 02:58:42 PM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: jarmo on February 13, 2008, 03:14:05 PM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


The closest to a real tour he's done is guesting at GN'R shows in Europe in 2006.




/jarmo


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: IzzyDutch on February 13, 2008, 03:32:41 PM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: ben9785 on February 13, 2008, 06:04:07 PM
Oh fuck, I was confused..

So now the RESCHEDULED dates have  been canceled as well?

Just checked TICKETEK. Damn. I got a refund the first time around, but then I had a change of heart and bought tickets
again for the rescheduled dates. Now they're not coming at all.

Yeah but I feel much worse for all the people who made travel plans to see the band. I'm sorry for anyone affected by it.



Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: faldor on February 13, 2008, 10:49:32 PM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.
As much as I respect Slash, Duff, and Izzy, I don't think they could do much without Axl.  Or at least without a lead man in general.  I know Duff and Izzy can sing a little bit, and all are outstanding musicians but without a REAL lead singer, not much going on there.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on February 14, 2008, 12:51:58 AM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.
As much as I respect Slash, Duff, and Izzy, I don't think they could do much without Axl.  Or at least without a lead man in general.  I know Duff and Izzy can sing a little bit, and all are outstanding musicians but without a REAL lead singer, not much going on there.

14 years , Dust N Bones , I beg to differ.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wheres Izzy on February 14, 2008, 07:30:43 AM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.
As much as I respect Slash, Duff, and Izzy, I don't think they could do much without Axl.  Or at least without a lead man in general.  I know Duff and Izzy can sing a little bit, and all are outstanding musicians but without a REAL lead singer, not much going on there.

I don't know about that. I have always really liked Duff and Izzy's vocals. Obviously they're not on the same level as Axl's or anything but I still would have been happy had either one of them been the singer for VR. And I am a fan of Scott's voice, but it's not like he really has much range where anything woulda been too different had Duff/Izzy been the singer. Look at a song like "Do it for the kids" and Izzy's "Bomb" from Like a Dog. Essentially the exact same riff, I always guessed it was written during the project sessions when Izzy was still involved. But is DIFTK any better than Bomb cause of the vocals? I really don't think so.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: faldor on February 14, 2008, 08:22:29 AM
I'm not doubting YOU would enjoy it, you're obviously a big Izzy fan.  But you have to look at the fact that Izzy Stradlin as a solo artist hasn't really caught on.  Duff hasn't either, nor Slash.  You put them together you've got a good start, but you still need a dynamic front man.  I don't doubt they'd make some good music together, but in my opinion they'd be missing a BIG piece to the puzzle.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 14, 2008, 09:44:29 AM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.
As much as I respect Slash, Duff, and Izzy, I don't think they could do much without Axl.  Or at least without a lead man in general.  I know Duff and Izzy can sing a little bit, and all are outstanding musicians but without a REAL lead singer, not much going on there.

I don't know about that. I have always really liked Duff and Izzy's vocals. Obviously they're not on the same level as Axl's or anything but I still would have been happy had either one of them been the singer for VR. And I am a fan of Scott's voice, but it's not like he really has much range where anything woulda been too different had Duff/Izzy been the singer. Look at a song like "Do it for the kids" and Izzy's "Bomb" from Like a Dog. Essentially the exact same riff, I always guessed it was written during the project sessions when Izzy was still involved. But is DIFTK any better than Bomb cause of the vocals? I really don't think so.


Yeah I agree. If Velvet Revolver didn?t have Scott Weiland as its singer, it wouldn?t be that known worldwide or have that much of a success.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: mrlee on February 14, 2008, 11:07:23 AM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.


But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.
As much as I respect Slash, Duff, and Izzy, I don't think they could do much without Axl.  Or at least without a lead man in general.  I know Duff and Izzy can sing a little bit, and all are outstanding musicians but without a REAL lead singer, not much going on there.

I don't know about that. I have always really liked Duff and Izzy's vocals. Obviously they're not on the same level as Axl's or anything but I still would have been happy had either one of them been the singer for VR. And I am a fan of Scott's voice, but it's not like he really has much range where anything woulda been too different had Duff/Izzy been the singer. Look at a song like "Do it for the kids" and Izzy's "Bomb" from Like a Dog. Essentially the exact same riff, I always guessed it was written during the project sessions when Izzy was still involved. But is DIFTK any better than Bomb cause of the vocals? I really don't think so.


Yeah I agree. If Velvet Revolver didn?t have Scott Weiland as its singer, it wouldn?t be that known worldwide or have that much of a success.


i disagree, here in england, Guns N Roses have a hell of alot more credit then Stone Temple Pilots,  when on about VR everyone knows it because its got members of gnr in it.

so i disagree on the point that they needed scott.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: faldor on February 14, 2008, 02:58:43 PM
Maybe they didn't NEED Scott Weiland, but he's a better lead man than Duff  or Izzy.  That's my opinion, and I'm sure most would agree.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Ines_rocks! on February 14, 2008, 03:37:31 PM
Even though i like Velvet Revolver i will be happy to see them break up. It puts me one step closer to seeing Izzy live. I think if Velvet does breakup that Izzy will go on tour with slash, duff & matt & will play songs from all eras, almost like a camp freddy type thing.

Izzy hasn't done a big tour since like 1993.




But he did offer to roll out and go on tour when he was playing with The Project, it's just the others that declined.

If they (Izzy/Slash/Duff/Matt) would go on tour and release an album and all I don't think that would be a long term thing though.. but it still would be great. I'd be satisfied with just new material having the Slash/Izzy/Duff combo. Can't go wrong there..

Hopefully Slash will release his solo album, he said it would contain some stuff he did with Izzy right before The Project started.
As much as I respect Slash, Duff, and Izzy, I don't think they could do much without Axl.  Or at least without a lead man in general.  I know Duff and Izzy can sing a little bit, and all are outstanding musicians but without a REAL lead singer, not much going on there.

I don't know about that. I have always really liked Duff and Izzy's vocals. Obviously they're not on the same level as Axl's or anything but I still would have been happy had either one of them been the singer for VR. And I am a fan of Scott's voice, but it's not like he really has much range where anything woulda been too different had Duff/Izzy been the singer. Look at a song like "Do it for the kids" and Izzy's "Bomb" from Like a Dog. Essentially the exact same riff, I always guessed it was written during the project sessions when Izzy was still involved. But is DIFTK any better than Bomb cause of the vocals? I really don't think so.


Yeah I agree. If Velvet Revolver didn?t have Scott Weiland as its singer, it wouldn?t be that known worldwide or have that much of a success.


i disagree, here in england, Guns N Roses have a hell of alot more credit then Stone Temple Pilots,  when on about VR everyone knows it because its got members of gnr in it.

so i disagree on the point that they needed scott.

My point is that they need a famous singer so that their band is known worldwide... Slash?s Snakepit didn?t have as much popularity as Velvet Revolver does, the same going to Loaded... you get what I mean?


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Wheres Izzy on February 14, 2008, 11:23:40 PM
I'm not doubting YOU would enjoy it, you're obviously a big Izzy fan.  But you have to look at the fact that Izzy Stradlin as a solo artist hasn't really caught on.  Duff hasn't either, nor Slash.  You put them together you've got a good start, but you still need a dynamic front man.  I don't doubt they'd make some good music together, but in my opinion they'd be missing a BIG piece to the puzzle.

I agree that their much more popular due to Scott. People outside here in the states I don't think realise how big STP was during the 90's over here, so that I agree with. I am just saying if Duff and Izzy were on vocals I don't think the songs would have suffered from a strictly quality aspect. Plus I don't know how much musically Scott contributes so I don't think you would lose much there. On a majority of STP's work, especially the older stuff, scott is only credited with lyrics while the deleo bros. wrote almost all the music.


Title: Re: VELVET REVOLVER AUSTRALIAN TOUR CANCELED!
Post by: Angel Down on February 14, 2008, 11:29:46 PM
Every band has its 'Dark Horse'. I wonder how much George Harrison got credited with.