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Title: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on November 17, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399Hiwua0J4

Cant believe no one on HTGTH as talked about the new 24 trailer. i didnt even know about it, pick up the sources guys haha.

So the final series it seems. Thoughts, hopes?


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on November 17, 2009, 12:56:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399Hiwua0J4

Cant believe no one on HTGTH as talked about the new 24 trailer. i didnt even know about it, pick up the sources guys haha.

So the final series it seems. Thoughts, hopes?

It's the final year of Keifer's contract.  And 24 is relatively expensive to produce.  I'm HOPING they do another couple seasons...but I think it's a long shot.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Chief on November 17, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
Thanks!!! didn't even know about the trailer.. can't wait to see it.
final season i think.. it's been a great and crazy run!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: CheapJon on November 17, 2009, 02:16:53 PM
gonna catch up on this show someday :smoking:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on November 17, 2009, 05:46:18 PM
I am so sad its coming to an end. Truly, one of the best TV shows on the 00s.

A classic in my opinion. I hope some day to get all the series on DVD boxsets. Maybe Blue-Ray if im mega lucky.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on November 17, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
gonna catch up on this show someday :smoking:

damn right you do newb. get on it.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: GypsySoul on November 17, 2009, 08:30:16 PM
Don't know how true it is but I heard they're bringing in Freddie Prinze Jr to see how he connects with the fans.  They're hoping he'll be the next main character after Kiefer's contract is up.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: bigcash2002 on November 17, 2009, 10:43:43 PM

looks good


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Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on November 18, 2009, 07:18:44 AM
Don't know how true it is but I heard they're bringing in Freddie Prinze Jr to see how he connects with the fans.  They're hoping he'll be the next main character after Kiefer's contract is up.
a 24 without Baeur?!?!

I dont know about that, i think theyd have to rename it for me to be able to accept it. 


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on November 18, 2009, 09:30:55 AM
Don't know how true it is but I heard they're bringing in Freddie Prinze Jr to see how he connects with the fans.  They're hoping he'll be the next main character after Kiefer's contract is up.
a 24 without Baeur?!?!

I dont know about that, i think theyd have to rename it for me to be able to accept it. 
IF they did go on without Bauer, I hope they don't decide to kill Jack.  Though Tony's died like 4 times already and he keeps coming back.  Is he "dead" now by the way?  But, I'd like to at least have the off chance that Jack could come back at a moments notice.  The show probably wouldn't be the same without him, but I'd give it a shot.  Are they still thinking about doing a "24" movie?  If so, they'd certainly need Jack for that.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on November 18, 2009, 10:01:27 AM
i want the movie still.

Watching that in the cinemas would absolutely rule hhahaha. Imagine if they did the BEEP BEEP BEEP thing when they do intermissions hahahaha. Everyone would be like NOOOO


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on November 18, 2009, 11:05:46 AM


IF they did go on without Bauer, I hope they don't decide to kill Jack.  Though Tony's died like 4 times already and he keeps coming back.  Is he "dead" now by the way? 

Nope, not dead yet.  He was "incapacitated" at the end of day 7 by Jack, before he could kill the big bad boss guy.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on November 18, 2009, 11:07:31 AM
i want the movie still.

Watching that in the cinemas would absolutely rule hhahaha. Imagine if they did the BEEP BEEP BEEP thing when they do intermissions hahahaha. Everyone would be like NOOOO

I think the "movie" they were planning was what we got last November, on Fox.  I think that was originally supposed to be a theatrical release, but when the writers strke occurred, and the previous season got canned....they nixed it in theaters and just went with TV/DVD release.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on November 18, 2009, 11:08:34 AM
Personally i wanted Jack to shoot tony. I think it would of been more climatic because Jack wouldnt of wanted to do it, or protect that bad guy, but he would of had no choice.

I disliked the last episode of season 7, didnt feel like it had finished.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on November 18, 2009, 11:09:28 AM
i want the movie still.

Watching that in the cinemas would absolutely rule hhahaha. Imagine if they did the BEEP BEEP BEEP thing when they do intermissions hahahaha. Everyone would be like NOOOO

I think the "movie" they were planning was what we got last November, on Fox.  I think that was originally supposed to be a theatrical release, but when the writers strke occurred, and the previous season got canned....they nixed it in theaters and just went with TV/DVD release.
Fair enough. It was a pretty good episode i guess...but if it was ment to be a movie, id of liked more action and pyrotechnics haha!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: novemberparadise23 on November 18, 2009, 09:19:25 PM
Im a 24 Freak  :hihi:

Season 1 is still my favorite season of television ever!
Cant wait for this season and i heard there is a possibility of a movie but if thats the case jack cant die this season


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Chief on November 20, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
cannot wait!!  i think season 7 ending was just a lead in to the next one!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Mysteron on November 24, 2009, 05:23:15 PM
Looking forward to he new 24. Cannot see Tony in the credits for the new one though  :-\



Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: JuicySwoos on November 25, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
I love how they schedule the show too.....It starts when football ends...PERFECT! 


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: novemberparadise23 on January 10, 2010, 05:35:44 PM
24 starts next Sunday. FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA  :D


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 10, 2010, 06:54:55 PM
HELL YEAH

TIME TO KICK ASS FOR A FEW WEEKS!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 12, 2010, 04:37:18 PM
I will watch the trailer with my wife tonight.  God I'm so happy it's back!  Jack fucking kicks ass.   :yes:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on January 13, 2010, 09:09:22 PM
got tickets to the premiere tomorrow night in NYC!! can't fucking wait ;D


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on January 14, 2010, 01:17:04 PM
got tickets to the premiere tomorrow night in NYC!! can't fucking wait ;D

I got a pair, too...but won't be able to use them.  They didn't show up in my inbox til last night after 6 PM.  Just couldn't find a sitter on that short a notice.

Hope you have fun!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on January 14, 2010, 02:12:46 PM
got tickets to the premiere tomorrow night in NYC!! can't fucking wait ;D

I got a pair, too...but won't be able to use them.  They didn't show up in my inbox til last night after 6 PM.  Just couldn't find a sitter on that short a notice.

Hope you have fun!

I got off work, just a matter of finding someone!

City alone is just, not fun. haha


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: GypsySoul on January 17, 2010, 11:02:16 PM
Well that was 2 hours of my life I'll never get back.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 18, 2010, 08:58:55 AM
Well that was 2 hours of my life I'll never get back.
how did you see it this early?


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on January 18, 2010, 09:28:34 AM
Well that was 2 hours of my life I'll never get back.
how did you see it this early?
The premier was last night here in the US.  First 2 hours down, and another 2 hours to go tonight.  Can't wait!  I thought it was a good start.  Not groundreaking, but I didn't see any reason to be upset with it. 


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 18, 2010, 10:22:07 AM
Aw Gypsy, I thought it was a good start!  2 more hours tonight.  It is fucking great to have Jack back.  Loved it.
 :peace:
...but now I've gotta use my vcr to tape tonight's The Bachelor.  :-[


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 18, 2010, 07:11:24 PM
hmm bit dissappointed if you guys aint blown away.


I was hoping,  that this being the final time we see Jack, theyd pull out all the stops. Especially after Season 7s lame ending.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on January 18, 2010, 08:15:40 PM
hmm bit dissappointed if you guys aint blown away.


I was hoping,  that this being the final time we see Jack, theyd pull out all the stops. Especially after Season 7s lame ending.
Well I thoroughly enjoyed it.  I wouldn't say I was "blown away", but it definitely met up to the usual 24 standards for me.  It's only 2 hours in, so there's plenty of time to have some amazing things happen.  I also don't want to give anything away since you haven't seen it yet, but it was good.  Don't get me wrong.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on January 18, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
Fucking DirecTV DVR didn't record the first 30 minutes tonight, just got home and it wasn't recording.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: jazjme on January 18, 2010, 10:05:10 PM
crazy 2 hrs, and I wont spoil , but it was cool!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on January 18, 2010, 11:06:30 PM
crazy 2 hrs, and I wont spoil , but it was cool!
Yeah I liked tonights even better than last nights.  Things are starting to heat up.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on January 19, 2010, 07:55:43 AM
First 2 hours were, IMHO, a very good start.  The "groundwork" usually starts slowly in 24...I'm used to that.

Then last nigh= PRIMO!  I'm completely hooked again, especially with the ending they put up.

One thing: Do we KNOW this is Keiffer/Jack's last season?  Or are just assuming because of the "all he has to do is survive one more day" tag line?


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on January 19, 2010, 09:08:08 AM
First 2 hours were, IMHO, a very good start.  The "groundwork" usually starts slowly in 24...I'm used to that.

Then last nigh= PRIMO!  I'm completely hooked again, especially with the ending they put up.

One thing: Do we KNOW this is Keiffer/Jack's last season?  Or are just assuming because of the "all he has to do is survive one more day" tag line?
I don't think it's been established that it's his last day.  His contract is up after this year though, isn't it?  People are just assuming, but nothing is for sure as far as I know.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 19, 2010, 09:18:05 AM
Keifer Sutherland said he wants to end Jacks character before it becomes unbelievable he can survive so much.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on January 19, 2010, 09:56:05 AM
Keifer Sutherland said he wants to end Jacks character before it becomes unbelievable he can survive so much.
It's too late for that.   ;)  I'm still amazed Tony Almeida is still alive (I think).  Apparently he has nine lives.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: GypsySoul on January 19, 2010, 09:56:55 AM
From what little I saw of last nights episodes, the show seemed to have redeemed itself from the boring 'storyline set-up' shows of the previous night.  : ok:

I don't know if it's fact that Keifer won't be back next season but IMO by adding the granddaughter character, the Jack character pretty much 'jumped the shark'  :-\

Also, IMO, they really need to make the Freddie Prinze Jr character way more of a bad-ass if they expect people to continue watching if in fact this is Keifer's last season.  


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 19, 2010, 10:22:57 AM
Keifer Sutherland said he wants to end Jacks character before it becomes unbelievable he can survive so much.
It's too late for that.   ;)  I'm still amazed Tony Almeida is still alive (I think).  Apparently he has nine lives.
Jack should of shot him or the other guy at the end of Season 7, they built it up to that decision. It was a very tense moment, obey the law and betray a friend by killing him, or break the law and what you stand for, for your friend.

Instead they have a crappy cop out where neither happened.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on January 19, 2010, 11:19:05 AM
From what little I saw of last nights episodes, the show seemed to have redeemed itself from the boring 'storyline set-up' shows of the previous night.  : ok:

I don't know if it's fact that Keifer won't be back next season but IMO by adding the granddaughter character, the Jack character pretty much 'jumped the shark'  :-\

Also, IMO, they really need to make the Freddie Prinze Jr character way more of a bad-ass if they expect people to continue watching if in fact this is Keifer's last season.  

I almost expected Rachel Leigh Cook from She's All That or the rest of the Scooby Doo gang to jump out somewhere....

But really if he took on a bad-ass role and was buddy-buddy with Jack, similar to how Tony was, I think it'd be great.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: novemberparadise23 on January 19, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
I dont want to spoil anything for anyone who hasn't seen it yet but....the ending of the 4th hour  :drool: I was shocked lol


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: novemberparadise23 on January 19, 2010, 12:57:58 PM
Also Jacks first kill was amazing when he was running up those stairs . I dont think he ever used that weapon in the past to kill someone and it was badass  : ok:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on January 19, 2010, 01:11:21 PM
First 2 hours were, IMHO, a very good start.  The "groundwork" usually starts slowly in 24...I'm used to that.

Then last nigh= PRIMO!  I'm completely hooked again, especially with the ending they put up.

One thing: Do we KNOW this is Keiffer/Jack's last season?  Or are just assuming because of the "all he has to do is survive one more day" tag line?
I don't think it's been established that it's his last day.  His contract is up after this year though, isn't it?  People are just assuming, but nothing is for sure as far as I know.

I thought he'd agreed to do Season 9??  Maybe I'm misremembering...


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Alan on January 19, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
the start of this season is amazing


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 20, 2010, 09:43:51 AM
ok well, seeing as a few people are ahead. please be careful with spoilers!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Alan on January 20, 2010, 10:48:05 AM
download the 1.09gig torrents of each episode, take the tv out/hdmi out connection from your pc/laptop into your tv and there you go, you can keep up with the US like i am  ;D


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 20, 2010, 01:05:01 PM
download the 1.09gig torrents of each episode, take the tv out/hdmi out connection from your pc/laptop into your tv and there you go, you can keep up with the US like i am  ;D
i would. any other time i would, ive got software to convert downloaded movies to send through the network to my ps3 so it plays on the big screen.

but............

i promised my girlfriend id watch it with her......


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on January 20, 2010, 01:21:26 PM
i would. any other time i would, ive got software to convert downloaded movies to send through the network to my ps3 so it plays on the big screen.

but............

i promised my girlfriend id watch it with her......

Sounds like a GREAT reason to cuddle up on the couch together and spend an evening (or 20) at home. :)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 20, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
i would. any other time i would, ive got software to convert downloaded movies to send through the network to my ps3 so it plays on the big screen.

but............

i promised my girlfriend id watch it with her......

Sounds like a GREAT reason to cuddle up on the couch together and spend an evening (or 20) at home. :)
yup yup.

did the same last year. Except before it was on mondays so it worked out a little easier.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 24, 2010, 06:53:42 PM
i agree on it being a bit of an underwhelming start.

i dislike the new CTU characters. Too polished, look like they came from some horrible show like "The Hills".

Outside of the shitty new CTU though, not bad. I think out of all the cast, if they continued with a new lead, id like it to be Renee.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on January 25, 2010, 07:52:39 AM
i agree on it being a bit of an underwhelming start.

i dislike the new CTU characters. Too polished, look like they came from some horrible show like "The Hills".

Outside of the shitty new CTU though, not bad. I think out of all the cast, if they continued with a new lead, id like it to be Renee.

I suspect we're SUPPOSED to dislike the new CTU folks.  Given how things are playing out (so far), I suspect they are going to be a hiderance (other than Freddie's character), rather than a help, to Jack. 


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Alan on January 25, 2010, 05:30:49 PM
i agree on it being a bit of an underwhelming start.

i dislike the new CTU characters. Too polished, look like they came from some horrible show like "The Hills".

Outside of the shitty new CTU though, not bad. I think out of all the cast, if they continued with a new lead, id like it to be Renee.

I suspect we're SUPPOSED to dislike the new CTU folks.  Given how things are playing out (so far), I suspect they are going to be a hiderance (other than Freddie's character), rather than a help, to Jack. 

the director of ctu sucks. and i agree we are supposed to dislike the new people.

fast start though which is a definate good thing.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on January 25, 2010, 06:47:20 PM
i agree on it being a bit of an underwhelming start.

i dislike the new CTU characters. Too polished, look like they came from some horrible show like "The Hills".

Outside of the shitty new CTU though, not bad. I think out of all the cast, if they continued with a new lead, id like it to be Renee.

I suspect we're SUPPOSED to dislike the new CTU folks.  Given how things are playing out (so far), I suspect they are going to be a hiderance (other than Freddie's character), rather than a help, to Jack. 

the director of ctu sucks. and i agree we are supposed to dislike the new people.

fast start though which is a definate good thing.
Yeah that guy needs to go, and quick.  I don't suspect he'll last the day.  Imagine how far ahead they'd be if they just listened to Chloe and Jack.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on January 25, 2010, 06:57:42 PM
the head came across as a bit power crazy to me. im sure it will be his downfall!

jacks already raped him with his use of information to get what he wants.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on February 03, 2010, 05:57:50 AM
not happy with it at all so far. 4 episodes in. It doesnt have the same suspense or engaging plot. Very dissappointed atm.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Chief on February 04, 2010, 09:37:47 PM
i hope it improves but i like it so far.. i just hate how it seems like every new season there is someone at CTU who has all kinds of personal drama interfering with their job!!!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on February 04, 2010, 10:08:06 PM
i hope it improves but i like it so far.. i just hate how it seems like every new season there is someone at CTU who has all kinds of personal drama interfering with their job!!!
I kind of like that chicks ex.  He's a funny dude.  He's an ass of course, but he's made me laugh with a few of his comments this season.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Mysteron on February 05, 2010, 04:56:24 PM
I have enjoyed the new 24. It has been fast paced and contains a good mix of old and new characters.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on February 09, 2010, 06:28:04 AM
24 Movie Edges Ever Nearer
Billy Ray in talks with Fox to write
Source: EW
24 Movie Edges Ever Nearer    

For years, Fox has been teasing us with the possibility of a 24 movie. It?s happening. Then it?s not happening. Then it?s happening again. Then it?s not. Then it?s happening as a wrap-up for the show. Then it?s happening in addition to the show. Then it?s not happening. And so on, and so forth. There?s been so many twists in the tale, dammit, that even Jack Bauer himself might find it hard to keep up.

But now, it would seem, it?s happening. For real. Definitely. Why? Because EW is reporting that Billy Ray, the writer-director of the excellent Shattered Glass and the less-excellent Breach, has pitched Fox his take on a 24 movie screenplay ? and it would seem that they?re biting.

Now, let?s not get too carried away yet. This is all very early doors, and any decision on a 24 movie is apparently dependent on the fate of the TV show. Currently in its eighth season, 24 has been experiencing a small ratings downturn recently, and the moment of renewal truth grows ever nearer, with the show?s writing staff about to embark on writing the final two episodes. If Fox cancels the show, those two episodes will becomes a series finale and, in all probability, a set-up for the movie. If Fox decide to keep Jack chugging away for Season Nine, the movie may be delayed. Again.

If the movie happens, it seems unlikely that Ray would direct, but he?s a fine choice as writer. He?s got a pretty good track record with big-screen thrillers ? he wrote State Of Play and the in-development, hotly-touted, President-under-siege movie, Motorcade ? and could be the right guy to bring Kiefer Sutherland?s apparently unstoppable bad-ass to the silver screen.

Thoughts? Are you still excited about a 24 movie? Or is it time to give Jack a quiet and dignified farewell?

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=26967 (http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=26967)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on February 09, 2010, 10:13:06 AM
if they have a good plot and dont make it a 12 rated movie, then i say go for it. But soon, Kiefers aged quite alot recently i think.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Mysteron on February 09, 2010, 01:37:14 PM
I have mixed feelings about a 24 movie. The whole point of 24 is that it takes place over 24 hours.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on February 10, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
About this season...does anybody else feel sorry for Vlad?  The guy really loved Renee...I just think he could have been misunderstood, ya know?  A little rough around the edges, but boy did he love Renee.

 ;D

I will always watch 24 no matter what...I'm just hoping things pick up a little bit.  I'm waiting for them to blow my mind...they usually do.  :peace:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on February 10, 2010, 10:47:09 PM
I thought the last episode was REALLY good.  Pretty much blew my mind.

Renee looks a little hotter this season to me.  Got that skanky, desperate, carefree look going for her.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Chief on February 11, 2010, 09:37:51 PM
Very interesting about the movie.. i hope its SUPER good otherwise they shouldn't even bother!

and yes, renee seems dirtier and more desperate this season.. good acting!!!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on March 27, 2010, 11:06:15 AM
Not to give anything away but some people were saying this season was dragging along.  I thought the last 2 episodes were great, vintage 24 for me.

Unfortunately there's some sad news to report.  I heard this rumor a couple weeks back, but didn't want to believe it.  Saw this posted over at www.gnrevolution.com last night.

Official: '24' ends on Fox
Tick, tick, tick … and done.

After eight seasons, Fox’s “24�  is coming to an end.

The groundbreaking action drama will air its final real-time episode in May, the victim of a confluence of circumstances: a swelling budget, declining ratings and creative fatigue.

Yet for fans of Jack Bauer, there remains hope. Studio 20th TV is developing a theatrical film that takes Bauer to Europe, and showrunner and executive producer Howard Gordon says other possibilities are being explored as well.

“There are other possible iterations of Jack Bauer and his world,�  Gordon said (full Q&A with Gordon about series ending here).

The writing has been on the wall for the show all season, which Gordon said felt like “senior year of high school�  to star Kiefer Sutherland.

Because of the constant upward spiral of cast and creative team salaries, any drama begins to carry serious financial weight after its fifth year. Fox paid a hefty $5 million per episode license fee to 20th TV.

Meanwhile, the show’s ratings dropped 16% this season to a 3.8 adults 18-49 rating including DVR — still healthy numbers for a scripted drama, yet not enough to overcome the program’s increasing cost, a budget that was set to climb once again since contracts for Sutherland, Gordon and other key players expire this season.

Then there’s the show’s creative struggle. How many times have “24�  characters declared that a looming crisis will be addressed “within the hour,�  or has Bauer struggled to gain the respect of the latest CTU chief? Gordon says the show’s writers felt they had exhausted the real-time possibilities for Bauer and never came up with a truly compelling idea for Day 9.
“If one of the writers came up with a good idea, I’d happily pitch it to Kiefer and then happily pitch to a network, whether Fox or someone else,�  Gordon said. “We just don’t have that idea, and that’s where everything has to start.�

Producers did sniff around at other networks, namely NBC, with 20th TV offering to lower its license fee to $3.5 million to keep the show going. NBC ran the numbers and passed.

As the weeks tick down to the show’s final hour, Gordon promises a strong finish coupled with the current New York-based storyline taking a dark and creatively risky turn for the final episodes.

For fans, the ending of “24,�  along with ABC’s “Lost,�  represents the departure of one of the few successful serialized action-driven shows on broadcast, leaving a suitcase-nuke-sized gap in the creative landscape. In addition to its unique real-time storytelling model, the drama pioneered the modern-day TV cliffhanger.

Even its scheduling was an innovation — a returning hit that airs in midseason without repeats.

“I’d like it to be remembered as a revolutionary concept,�  Gordon said. “I hope the second thing is that we loved this show so much and never did anything less than our best and I hope we delivered to our fans like we feel we did to ourselves.�
http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/03/fox-cancels-24.html


'24' showrunner talks series finale, future plans

Howard Gordon, “24�  executive producer and showrunner talks about the the decision to cancel the series and what’s next for Jack Bauer.
THR: What's next for "24"?

Gordon: There are other possible iterations of Jack Bauer and his world -- whether a movie or some other sort of scenario. We're developing the movie, Billy Ray (� State of Play,�  “Shattered Glass� ) is writing it. It depends on how well it comes out and Fox's appetite. Most importantly it's about ending the show right and doing it with the same level of intensity and commitment that we started with.

THR: When's the soonest that fans could realistically expect a feature film?

Gordon: Obviously the script's still being written. It could be as early as next year depending on how things come together.
THR: Since the setting shifts to Europe for the movie, will CTU still play a role?

Gordon: Yes and no. Jack is really the center of it, catching up with him emotionally and locationally where he is. The opportunity is not to use the real-time aspect and also to do it on a scale the TV show never allowed.

THR: Is there anything TV-related that you're looking to do in the future with the “24�  brand?

Gordon: There are conversations about that. If one of the writers came up with a good idea, I'd happily pitch to Kiefer and happily pitch the show to the network -- whether Fox or someone else. We just don't have that idea and that's where everything has to start.

THR: You never pitched an idea for next season?

Gordon: We couldn't come up with something that really satisfied us. We've done everything we feel we can do with that character in this format.

THR: How ending the show come about?

Gordon: It helped that this was the end of a lot of peoples' contracts. There was a deal finiteness in place. Also, every year is a high-wire act. We all look at each other and ask, 'Can we really do this again?' and it's not with complete conviction that we say, 'Yes.' As an act of faith and effort, we get through it. This year Kiefer said it felt like the senior year of high school.

THR: How do you want “24�  the series to be remembered?

Gordon: I'd like it to be remembered as a revolutionary concept. The second thing is that we loved this show so much and never did anything less than our best. I hope we delivered to our fans like we feel we did to ourselves. We loved this show from the very first hour to the last hour, so I hope people think of it being consistently at that quality and that it never dipped too terribly -- except for season six.

THR: Can you tease to the rest of the season?

Gordon: We've taken a risk in the last eight episodes. It was challenging to the writers to the actors. We're taking a risk, the show has to do that. Without spoiling what's to come, it's pretty dark and complex and a place that was uncomfortable for us to write and for some of the actors to act. We really swung for the fences. Because the show is as old as it is, this season hasn't really been given its due. But our audience is hanging in there with us and I think it's been a very successful season.

THR: How has this decision creatively impacted the ending?
Gordon: There have been a couple other season-enders that would have been spectacular series enders. Season four, season five and last year. I was more aware this time of ending something that really felt surprising, but not cheap; emotionally consistent. Some will throw their shoes at the screen, inevitably some will be angry, some will say they hated it the last three years. You can't please everybody you can only do the best you can do. I'm hoping people lean forward. I'm hoping the first feeling people have is, "Damn I miss it, I want more."
http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/03/24-finale-.html



Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on March 27, 2010, 05:06:58 PM
So, who wants to pitch in the $3.5 million and buy it with me?

NBC contemplated it but didn't think it would be in their best interest.

 :no:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on March 27, 2010, 05:44:21 PM
So, who wants to pitch in the $3.5 million and buy it with me?

NBC contemplated it but didn't think it would be in their best interest.

 :no:
Yeah, I understand people saying the show isn't what it once was and the writers kind of running out of ideas.  But I still think it's one of the best shows on TV and will be sad to see it go.  If NBC can't find a use for it, you know there's trouble.  Although maybe NBC just can't afford it because of the financial mess they've put themselves in.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on March 27, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
So, who wants to pitch in the $3.5 million and buy it with me?

NBC contemplated it but didn't think it would be in their best interest.

 :no:
Yeah, I understand people saying the show isn't what it once was and the writers kind of running out of ideas.  But I still think it's one of the best shows on TV and will be sad to see it go.    If NBC can't find a use for it, you know there's trouble.  Although maybe NBC just can't afford it because of the financial mess they've put themselves in.

Damn straight Faldor!   :yes:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on March 27, 2010, 08:29:44 PM
id of said it needs to continue. Until i started watching this new series which ive found pretty average. Only the last episode i watched was like old 24 (hint/spoiler. the one with the EMP)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on March 27, 2010, 11:06:22 PM
id of said it needs to continue. Until i started watching this new series which ive found pretty average. Only the last episode i watched was like old 24 (hint/spoiler. the one with the EMP)
Just wait till the next episode.  That's all I'm gonna say, I don't want to give anything away.  Hopefully that wasn't too much.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on March 28, 2010, 11:26:13 AM
id of said it needs to continue. Until i started watching this new series which ive found pretty average. Only the last episode i watched was like old 24 (hint/spoiler. the one with the EMP)
Just wait till the next episode.  That's all I'm gonna say, I don't want to give anything away.  Hopefully that wasn't too much.

Seriously!  The the last 2 episodes have been fucking great.  That Arab leader's daughter, Kyla? she's smokin' hot.   :yes:
I will be sad to see 24 go.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on March 28, 2010, 12:14:32 PM
well i get to see it tonight! So, fingers crossed it keeps me on the edge of my seat like last episode, cause i loved it. Felt like the way 24 should be, where i go "OOHHHH DAMN IT" when the hour closes!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on March 29, 2010, 05:54:27 PM
And its gone back to being generally average again.

A big shame we are probably half way through now and im really not feeling this season at all. Its such a shame, because its the final season n i wanted Jack to go out with a bang.

Ive liked many 24 seasons, most people say they hated season 6. I absolutely loved it, its one of my favorites ive seen. All of the seasons ive seen have been epic. But this one....just isnt cutting it.

I hate Dana Walsh, although they did make her a little more interesting in the last epsiode.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on March 29, 2010, 06:22:36 PM
And its gone back to being generally average again.

A big shame we are probably half way through now and im really not feeling this season at all. Its such a shame, because its the final season n i wanted Jack to go out with a bang.

Ive liked many 24 seasons, most people say they hated season 6. I absolutely loved it, its one of my favorites ive seen. All of the seasons ive seen have been epic. But this one....just isnt cutting it.

I hate Dana Walsh, although they did make her a little more interesting in the last epsiode.
You didn't like that last episode? 

I'll admit, most of the hour I was cursing out the Dana Walsh character and hoping she'd get caught or something so her part would be over with.  But the ending was a shocker to me and made me go, "alright, now I get it".  They wanted us to hate her, and for good reason.  Although I talked to my mom and she had the opposite reaction.  She was starting to feel sorry for her.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on March 29, 2010, 06:46:48 PM
Faldor, I felt bad for Dana just like your mom.  In fact, I was just hoping she'd use the EMP blast to take out the parole officer.  Needless to say I didn't like that dude (even though he was just doing his job).

Give it some time...from what I understand, the ending could be "dark."  Jack Bauer's character is worth the watch every week in my opinion.  I'll be sad to see it go.   :'(


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on March 29, 2010, 07:05:30 PM
Faldor, I felt bad for Dana just like your mom.  In fact, I was just hoping she'd use the EMP blast to take out the parole officer.  Needless to say I didn't like that dude (even though he was just doing his job).

Give it some time...from what I understand, the ending could be "dark."  Jack Bauer's character is worth the watch every week in my opinion.  I'll be sad to see it go.   :'(
I just haven't liked Dana all season.  And I like the guy playing the parole officer.  I forget the guys name but I liked him as Jimmy James in News Radio and Melvin in Office Space.  Dana was just getting to me recently and at the end of the episode it all made sense to me.  I was kind of upset that I couldn't see it coming, it seemed so obvious when it was said and done.  I really enjoyed the last 2 episodes.  I'd have to think they'd break out all the stops knowing this is the final season, though they probably won't do anything TOO drastic since the movie is on the horizon.  So obviously, Jack will survive.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on March 30, 2010, 08:09:01 AM
They better give Jack a good send off.

i was pissed off yesterday, i wanted to start buying the 24 boxsets as it will be fun to relive the past memories. I havent watched the first series since like....2004/2005 :S

However. The cost, PER SET is like ?38!!!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on March 30, 2010, 10:28:50 AM
That's probably because a lot of people, like yourself, want to buy them now, so they have rocketed a bit.

I didn't pay more than ?20 for any of mine, most of them were about ?15.

You should have bought them before this season started!, the price probably won't drop until after it finishes now.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on March 30, 2010, 10:50:36 AM
Doesn't hulu.com offer pretty much every season, streaming, for free?  Sure, you gotta deal with a couple of commercials...but it beats paying big bucks for the box sets if you want to catch up NOW.

If you REALLY want to own them (I do....I've bought seasons 1-6, so far...so I understand the compulsion) here's my suggestion:  Wait until Season 8 comes out on DVD.  Usually, right around the time the "newest" season comes out, all the rest go on sale.  I've never paid more than $25 for any one season...and I've found them for as little as $20 on sale, at times.

The one caveat:  Season 1 can be a pain in the ass to find on sale.  It's the one I have the hardest time tracking down, when I want to get a friend "hooked". 


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on March 30, 2010, 11:22:31 AM
thanks for the input guys.


Well, i know my way around streaming pretty well. But id like to own them so i can watch them in comfort on TV rather than in my computer chair etc.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on March 30, 2010, 11:32:33 AM
thanks for the input guys.


Well, i know my way around streaming pretty well. But id like to own them so i can watch them in comfort on TV rather than in my computer chair etc.

Heh heh...that's why my wife and I made sure our laptop had an HDMI output on it...hook it right up to the TV. :)

Not that you want to go through the hassle, but you could also hook your PC up to your TV, provided it's somewhat new (all flatscreens, pretty much).  Most have a VGA input, so you can go direct from your PC to the TV...but barring that, you can go VGA to DVI with a $5 adapter.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: JuicySwoos on March 30, 2010, 04:46:40 PM
I've enjoyed this season very much.  The only complaint I have is that they did not somehow work in Elisha Cuthbert running around in a bikini every episode.

Kind of interesting, I have finally moved over to other networks, this year.   I have been brainwashed by NBC for so long because of Cheers, Seinfield, Friends, and Law and Order.  I now watch CBC and ABC, they have some great comedies. Watching those shows really shows have much NBC sucks a fat one now a days.  Monday's are great, 24, Law and Order, How I Met Your Mother, Rules of Engagement.  Been a while since I have watched so much TV, probably a bad things, but oh well.

I wish NBC figured a way to snag 24.  It probably didn't make dollars and sense, but for the lack of decent shows on the network, you'd think they'd spend a bit more. Guess its cheaper to try another IQ dropping reality show.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on March 30, 2010, 05:43:21 PM
The one caveat:  Season 1 can be a pain in the ass to find on sale.  It's the one I have the hardest time tracking down, when I want to get a friend "hooked". 

The funny thing? That's one of the few seasons that can be found on sale over here at the moment!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on April 07, 2010, 06:44:21 PM
If you didn't like the double header the other night, then there is no hope for your 24 soul!, just stop watching now, eh? Am I right?

(At least, that is to say, what we can realistically expect to get from the show this late in the day...(Pun... Sort of intended))


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on April 07, 2010, 06:48:15 PM
Yeah the last 2 hours were splendid, I thought.  I thought last week kind of dragged a little but they came back with a vengeance.  The last 4 out of 5 have been vintage 24 to me.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on April 08, 2010, 10:48:23 AM
i dont know where you americans are at now. But the last episode i watched was GREAT, where they used to smoke grenades etc to take those man. You know the one?


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on April 08, 2010, 07:20:24 PM
There have been two episodes that aired since then, back to back. I'm not sure if Sky will air it as a double bill as well, but it would certainly make sense to...

As far as I am concerned, and what I look for in a show like this, those two episodes are what it's all about!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Trist805 on April 08, 2010, 09:02:52 PM
I loved the end of last week's episode.  My favorite part was with Renee and the Muslim woman in the house.    :nervous:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: cotis on April 12, 2010, 10:29:51 PM
crazy episode tonight (8am-9am)...


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on April 12, 2010, 11:37:19 PM
Absolutely, things keep a rollin'.  I think the season just keeps getting stronger with each episode.  We should be in for quite the series finale down the road.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: JuicySwoos on April 14, 2010, 08:52:53 AM
The actor who plays Logan does a great job.  He just looks like a weasel.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on April 15, 2010, 12:38:35 PM
Jack is now pissed off.

You never want Jack to be pissed off.

I predict very bad things for the bad guys.

I wish there were spoiler tags around here....


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on April 15, 2010, 05:06:56 PM
Jack is now pissed off.

You never want Jack to be pissed off.

I predict very bad things for the bad guys.


Hell yeah!  It's gonna be great watching Jack go ape-shit on the bad guys.  :)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on April 21, 2010, 10:38:55 AM
ive just watched the episode where


*spoiler*

They Jack gets tricked n finds Hassan dead. God damn them. I actually felt genuine sadness, n when Jack stared at his face i felt a shiver go down my spine. What a cracking TV show. *end spoiler*


Jacks gonna fuck some people up next week for sure.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on April 21, 2010, 01:53:48 PM
ive just watched the episode where


*spoiler*

They Jack gets tricked n finds Hassan dead. God damn them. I actually felt genuine sadness, n when Jack stared at his face i felt a shiver go down my spine. What a cracking TV show. *end spoiler*


Jacks gonna fuck some people up next week for sure.

Oh, you ain't seen the half of why Jack's pissed off.  Wait til next episode (or maybe it was the one after?).....

And compound that with what happened in this past episode??!!

I don't think we've seen Jack this pissed since Season 1/Season 2.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on April 21, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
haha. Well unfortunately because i only saw a few episodes of season 3....i always thought Jack was at his craziest then, with the drug addiction issues etc.

But then again he was trying to get over Terry in season 2.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Alan on April 22, 2010, 07:28:27 AM
the next episode should be insane.

i'm wondering how cole is going to play out in this now, which side will he take?


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on April 22, 2010, 07:51:17 AM
SPOILER !!!!!!!!!






But then again he was trying to get over Terry in season 2.

I will say nothing more but for you to keep the above in mind when watching the next couple episodes.

:)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on April 22, 2010, 06:42:30 PM
Sorry Pilf, old friend, but that was just too obvious.  ;)

I had to edit it, I know how livid mrlee can get when it comes to spoilers.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on April 23, 2010, 09:05:47 AM
(http://www.superchefblog.com/images/arnoldschwarzenegger_totalrecall.png)

i saw it before the edit was made!!! arhgghsalgldsf g

UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU GUYS, I DID A LEVEL MEDIA SO ITS BLATANT WHATS GONNA HAPPEN AFTER I READ THAT!

N THATS GOD DAMN BULLSHIT. WHY THE HELL, HASNT JACK BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH PAIN? :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

ARGHGHGHGH WHY DID I HAVE TO READ IT BEFORE THE EDIT,  NOW WHEN THE BIG MOMENT HAPPENS THERE WILL BE NO TENSION FOR ME. ARHG NOWAOWOWAOOAWOWOAWA


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on April 23, 2010, 09:15:25 AM
(http://www.superchefblog.com/images/arnoldschwarzenegger_totalrecall.png)

i saw it before the edit was made!!! arhgghsalgldsf g

UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU GUYS, I DID A LEVEL MEDIA SO ITS BLATANT WHATS GONNA HAPPEN AFTER I READ THAT!

N THATS GOD DAMN BULLSHIT. WHY THE HELL, HASNT JACK BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH PAIN? :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

ARGHGHGHGH WHY DID I HAVE TO READ IT BEFORE THE EDIT,  NOW WHEN THE BIG MOMENT HAPPENS THERE WILL BE NO TENSION FOR ME. ARHG NOWAOWOWAOOAWOWOAWA

I'm SO sorry, I didn't think it was that obvious. :(

POTENTIAL SPOILER!!!!





 


To be fair...the one complaint I have with "the moment" is.....there's not much tension in it.  It's one of those things you see coming from a mile away, and you REALLY wish you could stop it, but you can see where the inevitable end is.  You'll know 5-10 minutes into the next episode what's coming.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on April 23, 2010, 10:17:35 AM
meh, its ok, you gave me a chance to use the arnold face rofl


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on April 23, 2010, 10:22:04 AM
You're still in for some great moments the next 2 episodes.  Pilferk was right though, some of the things that happened, while AWESOME, weren't really that surprising.  You could see them coming.  I hope that doesn't give anything away.  I should probably just stop talking.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: novemberparadise23 on May 05, 2010, 07:35:29 PM
Im loving the past few weeks...... SPoiler alert!








Jack is on the edge and anyone who gets in his way is getting the axe  : ok:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on May 06, 2010, 12:10:46 AM
Im loving the past few weeks...... SPoiler alert!








Jack is on the edge and anyone who gets in his way is getting the axe  : ok:
Yeah, reminds me of the movie "Man On Fire" at this point, taking a page out of Denzel's book.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 06, 2010, 06:39:36 AM
i saw the words man on fire.

im really hoping they are not going to take the cheese ridden route of having terry mini kidnapped.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on May 07, 2010, 06:50:40 AM
i saw the words man on fire.

im really hoping they are not going to take the cheese ridden route of having terry mini kidnapped.

That comment actually makes me feel a bit better about my comments earlier.  And you have no real worries, about the above.

FYI: Terry (his wife..back in season 1) is still dead...she didn't come back from the grave.

Minor, tiny, not really, but kinda spoiler ahead, more about casting than plot (and if you want to avoid it, just return when you've seen the next episode or two):




And Kim and Terry (his granddaughter) have not been seen since the early episodes....STILL (and, obviously, we're a few eps ahead of you here in the US).


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 07, 2010, 10:35:40 AM
no i ment his grand daughter. not his dead rotting wife.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on May 10, 2010, 07:54:22 AM
no i ment his grand daughter. not his dead rotting wife.

Yeah, I addressed that in the "spoiler-y" part.  I won't rehash it here, in case you skipped it.  :)



Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 10, 2010, 11:46:32 AM
well in england the last episode i saw was *spoiler incase anyone hasnt watched it at all*



Jack took an entire episode to buy some guns off that actor whos name i forget but hes in almost every tarantino movie on earth.  Then joined forces with cole. Now we have to wait another fucking episode, for him to do what i thought they were gonna do in that episode. Pisses me off how they are really dragging episodes out without quick progress this season. I remember in the old days youd have someone being took hostage, jack finds them, kills all terrorists and more in one episode. Now that would take like 4 episodes.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on May 10, 2010, 12:14:13 PM
well in england the last episode i saw was *spoiler incase anyone hasnt watched it at all*



Jack took an entire episode to buy some guns off that actor whos name i forget but hes in almost every tarantino movie on earth.  Then joined forces with cole. Now we have to wait another fucking episode, for him to do what i thought they were gonna do in that episode. Pisses me off how they are really dragging episodes out without quick progress this season. I remember in the old days youd have someone being took hostage, jack finds them, kills all terrorists and more in one episode. Now that would take like 4 episodes.

Yup, you're past it.

To anyone who's not past the point mrlee is...the below contains spoilers.  But mrlee is OK to read them. :)

My initial post was about the death of Renee, and how PISSED Jack was about it.  Man, knockin' boots with Jack Bauer is NOT a good way to extend your life expectance.   Terry, Nina (the traitor),  Audrey (who might not be dead but was pretty fucked up when last we saw her), Diane ( that chick he was living with when he was "on the run" to start Season 5..though maybe she's not dead..just emotionally scarred),  and now Renee.    Yee gods.....I guess the "don't fuck with Jack" might be literal as much as figurative.

Terry (nor Kim) has made an appearance and there's not much time left.  If they show up, it'll probably be in the final hour(s). 

Elisha Cuthbert was working on another show ("the forgotten") so I'm not even sure we'll see her again.  Maybe....

I agree on the dragging out, though.  Some of that stuff could have been a might bit quicker paced.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 15, 2010, 11:51:29 AM
i started watching season 1 yesterday because ive been buying the boxsets. Now that is the 24 i know n love. Tense, makes me wanna keep watching.

Season 8 they really have run out of ideas n script. Its a shame, but im glad they are calling it quits because i think it would only drag the name down.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on May 16, 2010, 11:29:44 PM
i started watching season 1 yesterday because ive been buying the boxsets. Now that is the 24 i know n love. Tense, makes me wanna keep watching.

Season 8 they really have run out of ideas n script. Its a shame, but im glad they are calling it quits because i think it would only drag the name down.

Call me crazy, but since they got rid of the black guy heading CTU, and brought in Logan, this has been an excellent season.
I love the show.  I will miss this awesome show.  :(  As of late, the show's been freaking great.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on May 17, 2010, 12:51:50 AM
i started watching season 1 yesterday because ive been buying the boxsets. Now that is the 24 i know n love. Tense, makes me wanna keep watching.

Season 8 they really have run out of ideas n script. Its a shame, but im glad they are calling it quits because i think it would only drag the name down.

Call me crazy, but since they got rid of the black guy heading CTU, and brought in Logan, this has been an excellent season.
I love the show.  I will miss this awesome show.  :(  As of late, the show's been freaking great.
Agreed.  I think this season has been great and the show isn't suffering like some make it out to be.  Although I'm a bit biased admittedly.  I do hear from plenty of people that the show isn't as good as it once was, I just don't see it.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on May 17, 2010, 07:58:02 AM
i started watching season 1 yesterday because ive been buying the boxsets. Now that is the 24 i know n love. Tense, makes me wanna keep watching.

Season 8 they really have run out of ideas n script. Its a shame, but im glad they are calling it quits because i think it would only drag the name down.

FYI...I noticed that Netflix is now offering most of the past seasons on their streaming service.  Good time for anyone wanting to catch up...since I think pretty much everyone in the US has a netflix account, now. :)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on May 17, 2010, 07:59:54 AM
Agreed.  I think this season has been great and the show isn't suffering like some make it out to be.  Although I'm a bit biased admittedly.  I do hear from plenty of people that the show isn't as good as it once was, I just don't see it.

I think part of it is that familiarity breeds complacency.  People are so "used" to the format of the show that they expect twists and turns...so getting them doesn't really satisfy like it used to.

I don't think THIS season is the best season....but it's also not the worst (Kim/Cougar....BAD!!!), either.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 17, 2010, 06:30:46 PM
i havent seen some middle seasons. those being 3 4 5.

But everything has been very strong.  Like i said, i just feel this latest ones lost it a bit. Certainly lost the tension, only a few episodes have cut it for me.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 17, 2010, 06:31:12 PM
Kiefer posted on twitter asking for prequel ideas off fans btw.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on May 17, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
If you enjoyed season 6 (the only season of any series that I have followed for more than a year that was so bad that I STOPPED WATCHING IT!) then you should get along just fine with any of the ones that you missed.

Even Kim and her Cougar came from season 2, which for various other reasons was still a cracking season!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on May 17, 2010, 11:16:45 PM
Season 3 was the year I started watching.  That got me hooked, then I went back and watched seasons 1 and 2.  What happened in season 6?  I forget.  I enjoyed every season.  Obviously some were better than others, but I never thought any of them were "bad".


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: pilferk on May 25, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
I can't believe there will be no more 24 on Fox every Monday night.

It was a good (if slightly predictable) ending.  The last scene was basically perfect....as were the two characters involved.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on May 25, 2010, 07:43:27 PM
Anyone who hasn't seen the finale should probably stay out of this thread until they do.


I agree pilferk.  I didn't know how to react to the show initially after it ended, but looking back on it I think they ended it perfectly.  It ended as any 24 fan would've wanted even if was a true finale.  But at the same time they set themselves up nicely to go on to the big screen.  I agree with you about the predictability, which is the only reason I didn't give it an A+ right off the bat.  I was expecting more surprises and twists.  BUT, as I said, looking back I think it was a near perfect ending.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on May 26, 2010, 11:48:13 AM
staying away from reading peoples posts. ive just seen the episode where

spoiler


jack goes mental n tortures the shit out of that guy.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on May 26, 2010, 10:02:37 PM
Fucking amazing finale in my opinion.  2001-2010...it's been a great ride.
This last season just kept getting better and better.
A movie would be nice...a new season a couple of years from now would be even better!  :)


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on May 26, 2010, 11:55:03 PM
I saw this posted over at www.gnrevolution.com.  Obviously don't read until you see the finale.

Howard Gordon talks Finale:

SPOILER ALERT: If you have yet to watch the 24  series finale, stop reading now. Executive Producer Howard Gordon may reveal information that you don’t want to know until you’ve watched the entire two-hour goodbye, so leave this page ASAP!

Okay, you’ve been warned…

Much about the eighth and final season of 24 may have tried your patience — Dana Walsh, President Taylor’s tap dance on the Constitution, Jack’s attraction to the once hard-hearted, now all-gooey-inside Renee. Fortunately, Executive Producer Howard Gordon — like Kiefer Sutherland’s Jack Bauer — is a thick-skinned man who knows what he wants and makes no apologies. Here, the veteran writer who’s been on the show since the beginning talks about preparing for the show’s series finale, why he left some characters on the cutting room floor this season (sorry, Aaron Pierce and Tony Almeida!) and how the finale will tee up the 24 movie.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Did you know at the beginning of the season that you wanted Jack looking up at a drone and saying goodbye to Chloe in the end?
HOWARD GORDON: Definitely not.  That was something we came to fairly later in the game.  And it was an image I was certainly searching for all year but not one that I found until the very end.

What about Jack going completely off the rails?
Yes, that was very much designed from the beginning. How it would end, however, was something that was really unknown. I saw a little bit further ahead than I generally do, and we wanted to knit Jack and Renee together, only to take them apart, and for that to have a really profound effect on Jack. That’s about as far as we knew in the broad strokes. How that was going to happen, and how it would impact Allison Taylor and Chloe — those were late-to-the-party additions that I think helped bolster that initial idea.

Did you know at the start of the season that the Russians would be the ultimate villains?
No idea.

So you didn’t know at the beginning that President Taylor would go to the dark side with Logan?
There was some other mid-season purpose for her, but I can’t remember. But even in the beginning, I told her I didn’t have much of a part for her. My initial impulse, and our initial impulse, was that there was no more story to tell. That she, this character, had pretty much exhausted her story. And we needed her mostly to tee-up Omar Hassan, and help ennoble him as a character, rather than you know, step front and center stage herself. So the idea was always to have her at the edges of the stage, teeing up this character, and as it turned out, she became a profound player in the drama. It’s not just the death of Renee so much as it is the deprivation of justice that gets Jack to this place. I think it’s really important to look at those two as being, you know, a flip side to the same coin.

You entered treacherous territory with Taylor because you originally set her up to be a principled president.
Yeah, it was a big challenge.  I know she was surprised, and she was such a great sport, and such a phenomenal actor. But I have to say, it was challenging both to write and then to communicate to her what we were trying to do.

Did you expect to get push back from fans?
You do this long enough and you start realizing that you are going to get push back for everything. You are not going to win everywhere.  There are going to be unhappy people no matter what, and that’s part of the challenge of doing a show for this long. I think that I would be hard-pressed to look at a show that has kept its fan base completely happy for its entire long run, particularly one that’s serialized.

You killed off a lot of key people this year.
That’s not what we set out to do but there was a kind of a go-for-broke aspect to this year, so we felt freer to do some extreme behavior, some extreme things. I really hope that we never merged into the place where it was gratuitous, or sensational, or hysterical. I felt like the deaths that occurred were ones that were justified by the story.

The gut-wrenching scene with Pavel, Renee’s killer — what did that get you?
That was a combination of a conversation with Kiefer and a way to dramatize that Jack had actually stepped over the line, and had gone to a red zone. We knew it was going to be a risk. Kiefer really went for it. It was a grotesque ballet that he wound up dancing.

Why did you have Jack fall for Renee?
The human connections that Jack has really makes the seasons stronger. What he wants, and who he wants it with, is really important. In the end, her involvement in what was happening, and her redemption to herself in what was happening, became the very center and the reason why Jack goes back to pick up the gun again.

Dana Walsh wasn’t very popular with fans, either.
We anticipated that from the very beginning. This woman had a secret life, with a secret life behind it — something that came out later. It emotionally justified something that we always recognized was a pretty tricky and far-out story. We were very lucky to have Katee Sackhoff play along.

Did you consider a potential love connection between Allison and Ethan, her Secretary of State?
We did consider it. Bob Gunton [Ethan] confessed one night after a couple glasses of wine to having some imaginary past with her that extended beyond their professional one.

Did you consider showing the recovery of Bill Prady’s corpse after Dana shoved it into the wall at CTU?
Yes, we did. But it was a scene we never got to. We figured it takes five hours for a body to decompose and by then, the season is over. That’s what we told ourselves, anyway.

How come you didn’t bring back Tony Almeida this season?
We tempted fate once with him, for sure.  I seem to have gotten away with it, so we consider ourselves lucky and ahead of the game.

What about Alan Wilson, who masterminded the Sentox nerve gas conspiracy last year?
I think you got a sense that Renee broke him and broke the back of the conspiracy at a tremendous personal and professional price.

Did you ever consider bringing back Mandy, the professional assassin from seasons 1, 2 and 4?
Mandy always came up a bunch of times, but unfortunately, it felt like a sensational move. We chose not to go down that path.

Aaron Pierce?
We always considered bringing back Aaron Pierce. The story never presented itself. Other than Kiefer, he is the only one who has been in every season. Unfortunately, we couldn’t give him a perfect run.

The pitch for the 24 movie was done before the series ender. Did you draft off the pitch?
The movie has to defer to the end of the TV show, not the other way around.

Will it be a prequel?
It definitely will not be a prequel.

What will your role be on the movie?
I’ll be a producer on it. There is a draft that is in. No one is in a position right now to know when or what the movie will be, exactly.  Now that the TV show is over, the movie will be it’s own thing.

What are you most proud of this season?
I am proud of the whole season. Every year has become increasingly challenging to do and so getting through it gave me a tremendous feeling of accomplishment. I would say my favorite moment was the last moment. That was the moment I felt the most pressure. It’s an exercise I go through at the end of every year: Who do you want to see, and then how do you figure out a story with the people you want to see?  In this case — of course — it was Chloe, Taylor, and Jack.

If you had your druthers, do you wish Lost and 24 had ended a year apart, not around the same time?
All I can say is I hope we will be missed as much as Lost. I hope we will both be missed.  It’s good to be missed rather then sent out of town on a rail.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on May 30, 2010, 05:40:52 PM
Faldor, thanks for the great post.  Very inteersting read...I had almost forgot about Mandy!  If I'm remembering her correctly, I think she was the hottest chick to ever appear on 24.  Good stuff!  :beer:

24, easily one of the best (if not the best) tv shows of the decade.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on June 07, 2010, 12:50:18 PM
The ending was that crap it gave me a migraine. Im serious. I sat with a genuine facepalm for 10 minutes with my girlfriend scared i was actually going to break down. Then rested my face into her for another 10 minutes. Then i finally got up.

That was the most infuriating "ending" ive ever watched, even more so than Season 7s so called "Ending".

Wheres the resolve? There isnt any resolve, no end to it. Id rather them of killed Jack, because at least their would be closure. Not this, painstakingly annoying ending!

They better make a movie, and it better be bloody good. Because if they do not resolve those questions, and truly finish the story of Jack and the fate of the entire fuckin world. Seriously i dont know what ill do.

 :rant:


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on June 07, 2010, 08:53:48 PM
I thought it was a perfect ending.  It leaves things completely open for a movie, which is the ultimate plan.  But even if a movie wasn't in the works, I think the ending was perfect.  Would you really want to see Jack die?  Chloe?  The conversation at the end between those two was great and Jack ends the series on the run, as he has been most of the time we've known him.  Would you rather him live happily ever after as Grandpa Jack in LA with Kim?  Boring!


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on June 08, 2010, 09:41:26 AM
Like i said, i would rather some form of resolve, a ending to the story.

Once more that is not an ending. Ok they are making a film, great i dont hate them quite as much. But in regards to a story, its just another "cliff hanger" ending that leaves alot of ? for the viewers.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: faldor on June 08, 2010, 09:45:23 AM
Like i said, i would rather some form of resolve, a ending to the story.

Once more that is not an ending. Ok they are making a film, great i dont hate them quite as much. But in regards to a story, its just another "cliff hanger" ending that leaves alot of ? for the viewers.
Not nearly as many questions as there were from last season though.  Jack is on the run, and is a wanted man in both the US and Russia.  There's really no way to wrap that up outside of Jack being captured or killed.  And even if that happened, he's already broken out of prison once, so.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on June 08, 2010, 09:57:42 AM
If you remember i did complain majorly about Season 7's ending. Season 7 was a very good, and kind of different 24 series, the ending totally spoilt it. They didnt answer most of it in Season 8 either which pissed me off.

I just wanted a true ending. Instead of an ending that makes me want another Season to see whats gonna happen next.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: Jim on July 20, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
Hey, mrlee, I don't know how many seasons you bought, but if you or anybody else is interested, I came across this:

http://www.tescoentertainment.com/store/dvd/24--season-1--4-boxset/8%3a683913/

The first four seasons for 24 quid! Worth a punt for anybody in the UK that doesn't have them, surely.


Title: Re: 24:Season 8 (trailer)
Post by: mrlee on July 20, 2010, 03:03:43 PM
^ gutted, i wish id of seen that.

I got seasons 1,2 ,3 4, 5.

i need 6 and 7.