4 Reasons Not to Bother to Wait for W. Axl Rose

[younggunner]

Exactly.  They want to keep doing what actually worked.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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hence u have bands liek aerosmith,u2

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look we can go back and forth about this...i agree its dick that there isnt any communication...especially after the cancelled tour. but i dont understand why that means this album will suck or the members involved arent as good.....

why will there be promotions or singles if the album will not be coming out...they arent gonna put out a single and then not have the album come out for another few years that makes no sense...

and the reason i believe in this album is because axl has taken his time...he hasnt rushed it...if u ask me if he put out the album back in 2001 when the band just got settled in then i think that would have been a big mistake....being that these members are talented they kept on workin with the material and making it better...
whetehr its good or not remains to be seen...

[younggunner]

also...

Perhaps you should ask yourself that question.  Because you've only heard the same few songs we have, and you're utterly convinced that Chinese Democracy will be out of this world....
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um do u see me commenting on velvet revolver? set me free is nothing special but im not diregarding them becaus eof 1 song...and im not gonna love them because they put out shit faster than gnr...its not about how fast u put stuff out its about the quality of what u put out whne u put it out

[Dizzy]

um do u see me commenting on velvet revolver? set me free is nothing special but im not diregarding them becaus eof 1 song...and im not gonna love them because they put out shit faster than gnr...its not about how fast u put stuff out its about the quality of what u put out whne u put it out

That's entirely off the subject.  I was speaking of Axl's new songs.  You claim the new CD will blow everyone away, despite the fact you've only heard a few songs.  Then you turn and berate others for saying it will suck.  That was the subject.  Kindly stick to it.

hence u have bands liek aerosmith,u2

Yes, precisely.  Bands that still sell good records and shows, rather than trying to become something they're not.

why will there be promotions or singles if the album will not be coming out...

That's the point, Axl said it would be out "within the next year".  Well, that was almost a year ago, and we have nothing to indicate Axl is going to live up to his words.

[jrs2001_99]

I for one am not too excited about the popular notion that Axl's going to hit a "whole new sound" etc. etc.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Look at AC/DC, U2 and the Rolling Stones. They haven't really changed or "expanded" or any other crap at all in their respective careers, and the bands are as popular today as they ever have been.

Aerosmith tried to venture slightly with their last album, but it just didn't work as far as I'm concerned. Glad to hear they are going back to the blues with the new album.

I just hope Axl doesn't tinker too much and screw it all up in the vain hope of redefining the meaning of rock music with Chinese Democracy.

Just give us a kick-ass rock n' roll album, the way it should be.  

[jarmo]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Look at AC/DC, U2 and the Rolling Stones. They haven't really changed or "expanded" or any other crap at all in their respective careers, and the bands are as popular today as they ever have been.

Two of my favorite U2 albums sound a lot different from each other, "Joshua Tree" and "Achtung Baby".

Then they did "Pop" which was even more experimental for U2.



/jarmo

[younggunner]

Yes, precisely.  Bands that still sell good records and shows, rather than trying to become something they're not.
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these bands sell becaus eof thier early albums.they sell out shows because people wanna hear their classics...i for one would be mad if thats how gnr would have turned out. any1 can stick to their "roots" and succeede. i rather have a band do well and keep exploring...and if they happen to fall flat on their face then they can go back to the old ways...but what if it works?
and how can u say gnr is trying to be something they are not? when the album is out and u dont liek it then a comment liek that can be made. until then we have no lcue what the sound will be liek or how good it will be...but in the meantime its fukin gay to bash them for not releasing anything or if u still cant get over the fact that good ol slash isnt there anymore...the only other cool member other than axl was izzy anyway..but thats for anther day

[Eazy E]

Yes, precisely.  Bands that still sell good records and shows, rather than trying to become something they're not.
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these bands sell becaus eof thier early albums.

   Yeah, no one actually liked "All That You Can't Leave Behind".

If GN'R puts out a shitty album that doesn't sound like a GUNS N' ROSES record, then people won't even buy it because of their early albums.  Guns N' Roses will be the band with a great track record that got ruined by some fatty rapping over an industrial song.

[Acquiesce]

There are a lot of good arguments on this thread. I couldn't choose one to jump in, so I'll post my 2 main reasons you shouldn't wait for Axl.

1. I don't think the album will ever be released. If Axl's mental problems are the reason for his delays then I can safely say this album will never be released unless he comes to terms with his problems or if the record company forces a release. I can see the latter happening over the former but I suspect we'll never hear from Axl again if he is dropped from the label. Besides, there is no reason to believe this album is coming out anytime soon. We always hear talk but never see any action. There's no reason to believe it will be any different this time than every other time a band member gave us a timeframe for the release.

2. Axl is not worth your time. The guy wrote some great lyrics and was a great frontman, but the guy obviously has a lot of issues. He's not the type of person that anyone should be putting blind faith in. I don't think he is a bad person, but he's just too messed up to be reliable. He has disappointed his fans time & time again so there is no reason to believe he will change. A leopard never changes his spots. Neither does Axl.

[Booker Floyd]

the only other cool member other than axl was izzy anyway..but thats for anther day

At least you admit that you arent really a Guns N' Roses fan, that helps put things in perspective.

Are you gonna keep dodging that explanation of Axls musical genius?

[younggunner]

Guns N' Roses will be the band with a great track record that got ruined by some fatty rapping over an industrial song.  
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once again someone believing some lame rumor on the internet.
and commenting on his appearance shows how much its about the music to u...who cares how he looks. no shit, hes not a twig anymore and doesnt wear bike shirts. o no he wears football jerseys hes such a thug...what assholes...

 -At least you admit that you arent really a Guns N' Roses fan, that helps put things in perspective.

Are you gonna keep dodging that explanation of Axls musical genius?
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how the fuck does me liking or thinking izzy is cooler than slash or whoever not make me a gnr fan? please explain that to me...its a matter of preference my friend....in no way does that diminish slash, i love slash.w.out him gnr would not have been what it was...but that doesnt mean i have to like him more than izzy or any1 else. i just dont get that comment..please explain that 1 to me...
and as far as axl being a musical genious...well to me he is...i am 18.what current bands/frontmen or whoevr am i able to appeal to? none. gnr,axl fukin clicked with me 4 years ago when i gratefully dicovered them....i bought all the albums, bought some boots read all the magazine articles and understand old gnr....but i am lucky and i am able to experience a new era...to me axl is a genious. the songs he has written,his image,moreso his post old gnr days...the badass thing is cool but hwat really is cool is that he seems to be an interesting guy...hes smart funny sarcastic, and his live performances are fukin amazing...maybe geniuos isnt the word but for me he is the greatest...ill hold the word genious for when chinese democracy comes out and it sweeps all the haters out there off their feet. peace out

[Mr. Brownstone]

Certain bands sell on the fact that they've been around for a while. Pearl Jam sells out shows but their records doesn't top any charts. The fact that they sold out MSG doesn't make them the world's biggest band.

Most bands or performers sell out Madison Square Garden. Its because its New York City and there are 14 million people living there.

[younggunner]

i think fans dont liek axl or whatevr is because he has changed. life moved on for axl after the old left. he lived his life.he actually is in tune with culture and not stuck in 93 like some fans are or would like him to be.
and for mental problems. i have no clue if thats true or not...but to me its not because axl is always out..hes not locked up in a hole. from my observations i think he exaggerates his probles a lot but people percieve him to be mental...its kinda funny. especially when i read interviews of the members or peopel who have been working with him say he is truly a nice guy.....but slash isnt in the band so hes a selfish prick who is a mental case who loves rap and techno

[D]

axl is a musical genius because of the amazing lyrics he writes, his outstanding use of melody and emotion over kick ass rock melodies and heavy guitar riffing

axl is a musical genius for the different styles and the epic pieces he can construct and put together

he is also a musical genius cause his voice is so gifted he sounds like 3 different people, he has his regular soft voice "estranged" "civil war"  he has his massive fuckin wail which is unparallelled, he has his super deep voice he uses on backups "locomotive"

genius is used very loosely today, is axl a genius on the mozart beethoven scale? not even close some of the only people that i truly consider geniuses in the full use of the word that have been out the last little bit are stevie wonder, prince, frank zappa and id be afraid to put anyone else in that category. im sure their are others so no one blow a gasket

im basing this on so many elements, stevie is blind and his music is and what he is able to do is amazing
prince has every element, plays all the instruments proficiently, amazing song writer, dancer, producer,actor, entrepenuer, lyricist. prince has very very rarely cowritten a song and usually records the album by himself. also like zappa was a very prolific artist that put out large quantities of first rate material.

[mongis]

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4. wannabe asshole

[jarmo]

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[D]

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[Timmy]

On number 4, how do you know it'll never see the light of day?  Do you have special information saying it wont?  EXACTLY!

[Rebecca Duff Rose]

axl is a musical genius because of the amazing lyrics he writes, his outstanding use of melody and emotion over kick ass rock melodies and heavy guitar riffing

axl is a musical genius for the different styles and the epic pieces he can construct and put together

he is also a musical genius cause his voice is so gifted he sounds like 3 different people, he has his regular soft voice "estranged" "civil war"  he has his massive fuckin wail which is unparallelled, he has his super deep voice he uses on backups "locomotive"

genius is used very loosely today, is axl a genius on the mozart beethoven scale? not even close some of the only people that i truly consider geniuses in the full use of the word that have been out the last little bit are stevie wonder, prince, frank zappa and id be afraid to put anyone else in that category. im sure their are others so no one blow a gasket

im basing this on so many elements, stevie is blind and his music is and what he is able to do is amazing
prince has every element, plays all the instruments proficiently, amazing song writer, dancer, producer,actor, entrepenuer, lyricist. prince has very very rarely cowritten a song and usually records the album by himself. also like zappa was a very prolific artist that put out large quantities of first rate material.

Yowza!!
Exactly D!!

[Dizzy]

Oh boy, I get to go another round with Younggunner!  

i think fans dont liek axl or whatevr is because he has changed.

Actually, people don't like Axl because he hasn't changed.

he actually is in tune with culture

What culture?  The Backstreet Boys?  N'Sync?  Eminem?  Because that's what is popular now.

and not stuck in 93 like some fans are or would like him to be.

Actually, he is stuck in 1993.  As the old adage goes, "you're only as good as your last record."

[younggunner]

how hasnt he changed...every article i have read since like 96 has said that axl is completely wrongly percieved and is truly a nice guy and is not an asshole like he used to be....

i dont mean adapting to shit groups liek that.,..and although for the most part rap is a joke...eminem and a couple of others are legit and good....just because peopel like u are stuck on old groups doesnt mean its right. i could give two shits what u liek or whatver but i guarentee u the media would have a even gigger field day bustin on axl if he still wore bike shorts......i just dont get why peopel care what axl looks like? and he looks fukin cool anyway..the whole band looks cool..their all different. cant wait for the videos...buckethead and robins creativity will come thru.....

we can keep goin back n forth ....i mean im not hear to bash the old band. im hear because i have appreciated the old bands efforts a great deal but now i am ready to embrace a new era of gnr....im lucky enough to be able to understand that the past is the past and that thi new band will be just as good or maybe even better....if u dont liek axl because he picks his nose the wrong way or doesnt jump 100ft in the air anymore then i feel bad for you...slash still smokes those ciggs the same way so maybe hes more suited for all the haters...peace out