Snakepit's vocalist Eric Dover

[Captain P?l]

rember him? from snakepit v.1? seen the new alice cooper album? well, he play GUITAR on that...  

why did he really sing on the snakepit album if he is a guitarist?

oh, if mods think this is in the wrong place, just move it....

[jarmo]

Maybe because Slash couldn't find anybody better?  



/jarmo

[Captain P?l]

Maybe because Slash couldn't find anybody better?  



/jarmo

 

how hard it is to find a good vocalist? or find a vocalist without him being a undercover guitarist?!? :p

anyone know if dover is on other albums too? singing, drumming or playing guitar? or maybe bass? or maybe he is shaking a tamburine for metallica?

[jarmo]

Alice Cooper  Dragontown (2001) Vocals (bckgr)  
Alice Cooper  Dragontown [Bonus Disc] (2002) Vocals (bckgr)  
Alice Cooper  Eyes of Alice Cooper (2003) Guitar, Vocals  
Alberto Fortis  Universo Fortis (2003) Musician  
Imperial Drag  Imperial Drag (1996) Guitar, Vocals  
Jellyfish  Fan Club (2002) Guitar, Vocals (bckgr)  
Khaleel  People Watching (1998) Vocals (bckgr)  
Mark Plaff  Grapes Of Pfaff  Guitar  
Umajets  Demolotion (1997) Guitar, Mandolin, Guitar (Electric)  
Various Artists  Tribute to Journey (2002) Performer  

http://www.allmusic.com



/jarmo

[Captain P?l]

so.. he just was a vocalist on snakepit album? maybe he used slash to try out his vox skill's.. but it was too late when they reached the recording studio so he couldnt say no.... and slash felt sorry for the guy and couldnt say "your fired" too him...  

[Izzy]

Snakepit v.1 was pretty awful - no, thats not harsh enough, it was really awful

The vocals and lyrics were embarrassing, but so was the guitars, Slash and Gilby really failed to shine.

I never understood why they didn't just get Gilby to do vocals if they were so desperate they dragged a guitarist off the street.....

When ur line up is essential GNR '94 u expect much better - thankfully we got it with Ain't life Grand!

[Booker Floyd]

Snakepit v.1 was pretty awful - no, thats not harsh enough, it was really awful

The vocals and lyrics were embarrassing, but so was the guitars, Slash and Gilby really failed to shine.

I never understood why they didn't just get Gilby to do vocals if they were so desperate they dragged a guitarist off the street.....

When ur line up is essential GNR '94 u expect much better - thankfully we got it with Ain't life Grand!

Any examples of poor guitar work?

The vocals were relatively weak, and some of the lyrics were embarassing, but hardly awful.  Overall, its a solid, unspectacular record.  "Beggars & Hangers-On" is a great song, and so is "I Hate Everybody (But You)".  Most of the other songs fail to reach that level of songwriting, but nearly all of them are at least good. The main weakness would be Dovers singing.

I would just like to see what makes this album awful, so please enlighten me.

[the dirt]

Gilby palyed on all of the first albums tracks?

I don't think a great vocalist would have made the record more than a solid, 'unspectacular record'. It just wasn't there.

But I don't mind it , though.

[jarmo]

I would just like to see what makes this album awful, so please enlighten me.

Apart from thw two songs you mentioned, some of the others are quite awful. I really can't say anything good about Doin' Fine, Be The Ball, Take It Away etc....

Both Snakepit albums are uneven if you ask me. On Ain't Life Grand you have the title track that's bad in my opinion.


/jarmo

[tomass74]

Snakepit v.1 was pretty awful - no, thats not harsh enough, it was really awful

The vocals and lyrics were embarrassing, but so was the guitars, Slash and Gilby really failed to shine.

I never understood why they didn't just get Gilby to do vocals if they were so desperate they dragged a guitarist off the street.....

When ur line up is essential GNR '94 u expect much better - thankfully we got it with Ain't life Grand!

I have to disagree with you on this one.  I happen to think the first version of Snakepit was pretty damn good.  I like almost every song on there. The second incarnation IMO blew though.  

[Booker Floyd]

I don't think a great vocalist would have made the record more than a solid, 'unspectacular record'. It just wasn't there.

Sure he would have...

A great vocalist would have made it simply sound better and may have contributed to the songwriting.

[Mikkamakka]

I would just like to see what makes this album awful, so please enlighten me.

Apart from thw two songs you mentioned, some of the others are quite awful. I really can't say anything good about Doin' Fine, Be The Ball, Take It Away etc....

Both Snakepit albums are uneven if you ask me. On Ain't Life Grand you have the title track that's bad in my opinion.


/jarmo

Snakepit 1.0 was a great band that made one of the best records of the decade. Unfortunately, Eric is not a great vocalist, but wrote decent lyrics. And the guitar riffs are fantatics! Neither can I could have been a rock hymn, as well as Beggars, Monkey Chow, Back and Forth Again. Who plays guitar, like me, can tell that the guitar parts are much more difficult than the UYI works. Well, there are weaker songs (I just hate I Hate Everybody), but Doin' Fine has a very interesting gutar riff rhythm, just like some Led Zep songs, Be The Ball is good to listen (Especially for playing pinball  ), progressive rock gods Dream Theater members called Slash a 'guitar god' after listening Take It Away
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere deserves more  

[DeadHorse]

Eric was actually singing for a band when Slash found him. I can't remember but I thought it was JellyFish.

Slash said something about meeting him through a friend.

I liked the album, Beggars is an awsome tune as is Good to Be Alive, the outro is cool. I wouldn't say it is gut wrenching to listen to, but that's my "monkey brained opinion".

And correct me if I'm wrong but I recall reading somewhere a few years ago that Eric sang back up vocals on a, Britney Spears album.  

[Acquiesce]

I think the album is pretty good but would have been a lot better with a better vocalist.

[Izzy]

I would just like to see what makes this album awful, so please enlighten me.

Sure thing

Embarasing lyrics sung by a very weak vocalist - the songs lacked passion, hell they all lacked anything even remotely resembling emotion

The guitars, drums, bass etc were very bland, lets face it, if Slash's name wasn't splashed over the front none of us would have bought it.

When u have a line up of that quality and they produce this, only words like awful are going to suffice.

[dragan0T3]

Snakepit's first album was good, not great.  Ain't Life Grand was awful.  To tell you the truth both vocalists are pretty bad, but I prefer Dover.

Dime Store, Beggars, Monkey, Jizz, Lower, Doin' Fine are quite good imo.  The 1st track on the 2nd album is OK, as is Mean Bone, Serial Killer, and Alien.  I must say Speed Parade's intro riff is one of the best riffs of all time - too bad they couldn't make a good song for it.

[Top-Hatted One]

Both Dover and Jackson were referred to Slash by friends. And that is a recipe for disaster, but with that said there were some great songs in IFOS. Ain't life Grand is a great in your face rock record. It just lacks in the lyric department but Rod Jackson has a bad ass voice!

[jarmo]

"The singer we have is the f---ing awesomest singer in the world," Slash declares, admitting that he's tried singing himself but knows he doesn't have the personality for the gig. "[Jackson] was under my nose without me knowing it, after two hundred singers I must have looked at. I can't verbally characterize his voice, but he's got amazing control, amazing volume...he's just f---ing awesome."

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=183

Wonder if Weiland knows about it?



/jarmo

[darkmonth]

Fuck people who say Rod is not an amazing vocalist.  If you don't like his style sure, but you have fucking cloth ears if you can't admit he has amazing talent.

People are quick to put Slash's vocalists down (and many of these people are doing it with Weiland too so I don't even take thier opinions as worthwhile anyway), just because they aren't Axl Rose.

To be honest, much of the same is aimed at Axl's new axemen, because they aren't Slash.  These people are mostly just stupid narrow minded twats.

[Mikkamakka]

Fuck people who say Rod is not an amazing vocalist.  If you don't like his style sure, but you have fucking cloth ears if you can't admit he has amazing talent.

People are quick to put Slash's vocalists down (and many of these people are doing it with Weiland too so I don't even take thier opinions as worthwhile anyway), just because they aren't Axl Rose.

Agree. Rod is an awesome singer, has a great and skilled voice. For me he's like the mixture of Robert Plant and Steven Tyler.