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« on: July 15, 2004, 05:06:33 PM »
I dont know If you already knew but it?s true.Today I was listening to it and as my guitar is tuned half step down I wasnt playing.I took my guitar and played a D chord, and it was the same as FTP D chord.I though I was tuned normal, but then I put SMF on and tried to play it and I realized I  was half step down indeed.
What do you think about this.Why would they tune half step down on only one song?And why Slash never said anything about it?



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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2004, 06:09:52 PM »
Maybe it's for scott's range?
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 03:32:07 PM »
Yeah that?s probably true, thakns.Gn?R shurely did it  so that Axl can sing right.On FTP Scott sings some "high" (for his range) notes, so probably they tuned one half step lower so that Scott could sing those notes.You got me to the solution, miz, thanx!



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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 08:41:53 PM »
Yeah, but I still don't understand why GN'R do it.  Axl has a crazy range.  I really can't see half a tone helping Axl hit the hight notes...
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2004, 11:03:35 PM »
Yep, the song is on D, I was playing it these days.

I think gnr tuned the their instruments one half step down because it sounds heavier.

I tune my guitars one half step down so I can play gnr songs, also it is a lot easier to bend strings, and a lot harder to break strings.

I don't have the velvet revolver album... Is fall to pieces the only tuned down song ?
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2004, 07:42:36 PM »
Yeah it is.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2004, 11:38:55 AM »
not just "fall to pieces"... there's lots of songs who sounds 1 step down (drop D tuning on dave's guitar)

hmm... there's just few tracks with Standard tunning
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2004, 04:07:14 PM »
Which ones?  Slither is the only what that seems to be drop D.  Although I haven't played STB or Big Machine, everything else seems to be standard?
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2004, 05:42:52 PM »
i think illegal i is drop d aswell. but i dont think it has to be played that way if memory serves me correctly. i think its just easier in drop d.  actually wait the chorus actually does need the lower d.

stb is in standard i think
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2004, 09:39:05 PM »
Quote from: Oddy on July 22, 2004, 05:42:52 PM
i think illegal i is drop d aswell. but i dont think it has to be played that way if memory serves me correctly. i think its just easier in drop d.  actually wait the chorus actually does need the lower d.

stb is in standard i think
Oh yeah, Illegal i is gay, there's one note, that little 4 or 5 notes descending riff that goes down to D.  It's like the only part of the song which needs the low tuning.  I say just play it an octave higher cos I can't be doing with detuning all the time.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2004, 02:18:55 PM »
Sucker Train Blues: Slash STD Dave STD
Doit For The Kids: Slash STD Dave DROP-D
Big Machine: STD STD
Illegal I: Slash STD Dave DropD
Spectacle: STD STD
Fall to pieces: 1/2 step down
Headspace: I've never played it, but dave uses DropD
Superhuman: dont remember... I guess slash uses dropd too
Set me free: can be played in STD
you got no right: can be played in std
slither: slash and dave uses dropd
dirty little thing: std both
loving the alien: std both

I think dave uses dropD almost all the set, but in some songs he doesnt use those lower notes...

I did the list without listen to the cd maybe it has some mistakes
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2004, 02:28:14 PM »
Quote from: Aero on July 22, 2004, 11:38:55 AM
not just "fall to pieces"... there's lots of songs who sounds 1 step down (drop D tuning on dave's guitar)

hmm... there's just few tracks with Standard tunning
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1/2 step down Wink

some songs are  tuned like that and others in normal standard 440 mhrtz tune.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2004, 02:29:56 PM »
Quote from: Aero on July 25, 2004, 02:18:55 PM
Sucker Train Blues: Slash STD Dave STD
Doit For The Kids: Slash STD Dave DROP-D
Big Machine: STD STD
Illegal I: Slash STD Dave DropD
Spectacle: STD STD
Fall to pieces: 1/2 step down
Headspace: I've never played it, but dave uses DropD
Superhuman: dont remember... I guess slash uses dropd too
Set me free: can be played in STD
you got no right: can be played in std
slither: slash and dave uses dropd
dirty little thing: std both
loving the alien: std both

I think dave uses dropD almost all the set, but in some songs he doesnt use those lower notes...

I did the list without listen to the cd maybe it has some mistakes
you are almost right bruno Smiley
but it`s drop D in 6th string and sometimes first string too
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2004, 02:52:41 PM »
yes spiro... DropD means Standard tunning exept the 6th string, wich is 1step down (D)

I didn't notice about a D note in the first string... wich song uses it?
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2004, 07:44:08 PM »
Quote from: AsXpLy on July 25, 2004, 02:28:14 PM
Quote from: Aero on July 22, 2004, 11:38:55 AM
not just "fall to pieces"... there's lots of songs who sounds 1 step down (drop D tuning on dave's guitar)

hmm... there's just few tracks with Standard tunning
peace

1/2 step down Wink

some songs are  tuned like that and others in normal standard 440 mhrtz tune.
440 mega-hertz?  I think you wanna drop the m there buddy  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2004, 06:41:38 AM »
Slash has always tuned half a step down. ok
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2004, 08:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Dayle1066 on July 26, 2004, 06:41:38 AM
Slash has always tuned half a step down. ok
Really?  Oh my god!!  I never knew!!!
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2004, 07:22:34 AM »
Miz... Play nice..  Tongue

Quote from: AsXpLy on July 25, 2004, 02:29:56 PM
you are almost right bruno Smiley
but it`s drop D in 6th string and sometimes first string too

What is the advantage of detuning the highest string also? I don't get it...
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2004, 02:41:10 PM »
Quote from: Dayle1066 on July 26, 2004, 06:41:38 AM
Slash has always tuned half a step down. ok

Until this record?... Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2004, 06:11:13 PM »
Quote from: Skeba on July 27, 2004, 07:22:34 AM
Miz... Play nice.. ?Tongue

Quote from: AsXpLy on July 25, 2004, 02:29:56 PM
you are almost right bruno Smiley
but it`s drop D in 6th string and sometimes first string too

What is the advantage of detuning the highest string also? I don't get it...

not useful for this album... useful for when you wanta use a slide in some cases  peace
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