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« on: September 18, 2004, 07:15:47 AM »

I can understand not wanting to play "November Rain" or "Estranged," but what about:

Dead Horse
Coma
Don't Cry
You Could Be Mine
So Fine (w/Duff)
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2004, 08:08:06 AM »

Well.. unless they got a keyboard player then it would pretty hard. But I could picture myself velvet revolver play Bad obsession. But then again..
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2004, 09:50:17 AM »


The Illusions are more individual albums than AFD or even Lies. In AFD lyrics pretty much resemble scenarios all of the members were going through at the time, with a couple of execptions here and there. However, I see the illusions ( lyricswise) more subjective, more in the line of " these are my problems/views and these is how I deal with them" In another words, the Illusions are more personal. I just can't vision Scott singing Dead Horse, Garden of Eden or even Don't Cry because such songs are Axl's babies. It wouldn't fit it Scott sang them.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 09:51:42 AM »

I just think they picked a few basic hard rockers that would just get the crowd going...
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2004, 12:32:58 PM »

How about Double Talkin' Jive?  That would be the perfect song for Scott, because he feels the same way about the media that Axl does, and he could dedicate that song to them.  Scott could handle Izzy's vocals well, or Izzy could join the band and sing himself, since he wrote the song.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2004, 12:38:03 PM »

I think they play GNR songs and STP songs just cause they only have one album and have to do something to fill time, by a 2nd or 3rd record u probably wont hear any of their past material from other bands.

I agree, the Illusions are too personal and they had to pick some simple good concert rockers that are in scott's vocal range, Scott is a good singer but just a different singer than axl so he wouldnt be able to hit axl's register.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2004, 01:57:13 PM »

Too much GNR.

The songs they play now are on AFD and that's cool because it's been long enough. And they are retro now so that makes it cool. But songs from UYI are way too much GNR. Scott will never do that since he's too afraid of being in GNR part 2....
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2004, 02:51:21 PM »

because most people know gnr for AFD not the illusions
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2004, 03:00:10 PM »

because most people know gnr for AFD not the illusions

That's definetly NOT the reason.. Most of the people at the shows are gnr fans..? I just think they picked a few hard rocker that fit their style and scott's voice, they didn't pick big signature gnr songs.. Just a treat for the fans..
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2004, 03:03:28 PM »

fuck axl doesnt even play the illusions but what 2 songs and 2 of the covers, so hell if he dont in usin the gnr name why would VR?
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2004, 03:07:04 PM »

HATE TO SAY IT BUT SCOTT JUST DOESNT HAVE THE VOCAL RANGE TO SING THE MAJORITY UF UYI SONGS.
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2004, 04:29:12 PM »

Because this band is not guns n roses
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2004, 04:31:08 PM »

HATE TO SAY IT BUT SCOTT JUST DOESNT HAVE THE VOCAL RANGE TO SING THE MAJORITY UF UYI SONGS.


Except in Axl's case, vocal range is overrated anyways. But not even Axl can hit the notes the way he used to. Just watch any of the 2002 shows, hes always fiddeling with the voice amplifyer button attached to his waist. Scott should really stop covering "i used to love her" though. That song has Axl/GNR written all over it. Do 'double talking jive" instead. That song would fucking rock with VR, and Scott loves saying MotherFucker  yes
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2004, 05:07:15 PM »

I think Duff said that they picked the GN'R songs that were in Scott's range....

So talk about Axl all you want, the reason was given by a VR member.  Tongue



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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2004, 05:35:34 PM »

I think Duff said that they picked the GN'R songs that were in Scott's range....

So talk about Axl all you want, the reason was given by a VR member.? Tongue



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He did in an interview, i agree 100 percent with this.. One reason I feel he should stay away from certain songs is because he won't just be looked on as singing it as his own cover, he'll get he doesn't sound like axl..

This however is not the case (which it should never be) when axl has covered classic tunes, songs like sftd, kohd, live and let die, mama kin, train kept a rollin, we will rock you, etc.. He's covered some great songs, but I listen to it as it should be, not by how the other artists sounded.. I've never heard kohd and said he sounds nothing like dylan.. When someone covers a song they don't need to sound like the person who sang it, unless tehy have indentical voices, and ranges..

I like the covers scott has done,. mr brownstone, use to love her, and it's so easy.. I appreciate teh songs done by another aritist.. How could I enjoy the tune if I expect him to sound like axl, it's two different voices.. beer
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2004, 05:39:50 PM »

here are my facts in this matter


every cover song axl has ever done he has made it better! the part on bohemian rhapsody he does is better than when freddie did it, kohd,lald everything is always better, look at free fallin he blew petty off the stage


scott takes its so easy,brownstone, and used to love her and makes them not as good

thats the main difference

axl is a top 3 frontman vocalist of all time he isnt easy to fuck with just like tommy said, no one can really do axl justice singin his shit.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2004, 05:47:51 PM »

[Scott should really stop covering "i used to love her" though. That song has Axl/GNR written all over it.

"I used to love her" is written by Izzy......if I remember it correctly......
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2004, 11:53:04 PM »

Unless I am mistaken, isn't Used to Lover Her from UYI?
I have not read all the posts to this thread, so maybe someone already mentioned this. If so, sorry for the redundancy.

But the broader answer is: because VR is not GNR.
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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2004, 12:01:33 AM »

Unless I am mistaken, isn't Used to Lover Her from UYI?

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2004, 12:08:27 AM »

Because of some fan reactions, the fewer GnR songs in the setlist the better. VR loses credibility when they play them, especially since according to Duff the old band wasn't as talented as these guys.  Perhaps they should challenge themselves more.
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