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« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2004, 04:37:42 AM »

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true.. as more time passes, we're closer to the day it gets release..
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Fact is all other issues aside, this album is not coming out until Axl says so. If he decides its not coming out, its not coming out. The mear passage of time doesn't make us any closer than we were 3-4 years ago, as it was the same issue then keeping it from coming out thats keeping it from coming out now....Axl. 
Not until the dimmest fan on earth opens his eyes. ok


Yet I?m extremely positive as usual.
Time is one-way, no one has a return ticket. Either stop or move forward.
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2004, 05:29:16 AM »

Actually Geffen/Interscope have been funding Axl's big project for about 10 years and I don't think they will give him anymre money if it does not come out in April he will not be recieving ANOTHER 14 million dollars to make this album. Also Interscope own about 51% of the album and when they eventually get pissed off they will release the album, be it finished or not.
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2004, 05:36:19 AM »

I don't think they will give him anymre money if it does not come out in April? they will release the album, be it finished or not.

i think too, some new stuff at least, so they can give him more time to record
but i think most that it will be released soon without company forcing it, like with gh nervous

and 4 those who think gnr have had a dead- era doin nothin... or that it's only axl who has holdin back cd

axl says:

We hadn't written songs or recorded for many years. There were band changes and there were many changes in the record company. People in the record company had many opinions and they wanted to make the best possible record. Every time that we thought that we had the correct songs, then somebody thought that we could make it better. We started over, we continued adding songs, continued recording and recording. I think that when we release the album, it's gonna be something that I'm gonna be proud of and confident in. Then, we will also have an extra heap of songs. This band has played only been together for six weeks before Rio.

so, they come back again after a maybe well-deserved break...
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2004, 06:34:28 AM »


so, they come back again after a maybe well-deserved break...


A break? A break is maybe at maximum 6 months not two f*cking years. Axl has had thousands of opportunities to release this album, every yar there is another reason why he has not released it and I have had enough. I have been a loyal fan but you can take only so much, I would not be surprised if April comes and he says ''Oh sorry It is not ready yet'' The man has had his whole life to write songs, he has had eight years to finish this album, but what does he do? He cancels shows, sits on his ass eating doritos and getting plastic surgery because he wants to look like Michael Jackson.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2004, 07:44:15 AM »


so, they come back again after a maybe well-deserved break...


A break? A break is maybe at maximum 6 months not two f*cking years.

they have only said that it's done and their done with their parts within the last six months,
not two years ok
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« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2004, 10:22:16 AM »

2002 was the last show Norway. Dont gimme bullshit like ''They were gonna play Rock In Rio 4 but Buckethead left'' They cancelled more shows than they played on the 2002 ''tour''.
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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2004, 11:55:07 AM »

2002 was the last show Norway. Dont gimme bullshit like ''They were gonna play Rock In Rio 4 but Buckethead left'' They cancelled more shows than they played on the 2002 ''tour''.
So they did. So what?
I understand you?re fed up waiting.
So are we. We are pretty fed up with complaints.
Come back when you hear some news.
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« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2004, 12:19:53 PM »

Pretty slim.  At least heading into 2004, the band had Buckethead and Brain working with the band.  Now, Buckethead is gone, and from Brain's recent interview, it seems that he may be gone as well.  Plus, members are out doing their solo stuff for the next few months.  I am not expecting anything anytime soon.
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2004, 12:24:53 PM »

Axl has to release it in 2005. If not, a 2006 release date is still possible, but if we don't get it till the end of 2006, then we'll never hear this album.
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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2004, 01:56:53 PM »

2002 was the last show Norway. Dont gimme bullshit like ''They were gonna play Rock In Rio 4 but Buckethead left''
not sayin that at all, i'm sayin they have worked on an album more than rehearsals and booking shows,

They sure been recordin and workin on the album, watch the makin of the black album and you so how much effort and exaggerating this "underground"-work is, they are 8 people doin this,

just because they haven't done shows don't mean they haven't been busy
and with the comments from the members, it seems that we'll see it soon peace
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« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2004, 02:46:31 PM »

If I don't hear some news by the end of February then i'm just going to give up any hope of ever hearing CD.
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« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2004, 03:01:19 PM »

Bah that album is never coming out - but as i can't eactly choose to no longer care i will have to make some hollow statement that i think it will be out 'soon'

Untill Axl takes his pills again we ain't gonna be seeing it though.
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« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2004, 03:33:39 PM »

I used to think it had to come out at some point. Now I just don't know. As stupid as it sounds, Axl has very little to gain from actually releasing the album. As long as he stays holed up the way he has with that aura of secrecy around him he can never fail and will always be remembered as a reclusive genius. If he does release CD and it isn't recieved the way we all think it will be, he will forever be remembered as the guy who broke up GNR to put out a record that was inferior to the old band. I think he is frankly scared to tarnish his legacy like that if CD does not go over the way he wants. It is an awful big risk to actually release this album. Making it was one thing, releasing it and putting his legacy on the line is an entirely different thing. I am just not sure how much he really gains from actually releasing it, and the fact he has yet to do so would indicate he is having the same insecurities and thought processes I mentioned above.
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« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2004, 04:09:29 PM »

the record company have stopped them releasin it b4-
- so i woulnd't blame axl alone for the long time it has taken,

we'll get something both the band and the record company is satisfeid and confident in when it's finally is released,
that's good Smiley

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- tommy said a new webpage would be up around new years too,  Wink
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« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2004, 05:39:25 PM »

dude...this is depressing...so here goes 2004...like, how can 2005 be different...tick, tock, tick, tock...somethin's gotta happen. i don't know if this year (perhaps it'll all just be a lot of rumours and fuss over nothing). they got material, what the hell...which will be released (it al does, sooner or later). i suppose the record company will be pissed if nothin happens anytime soon...as for us, fans...well, i see a lot are becoming hopeless...that means it'll be a surprise when it'll come out, no? (maybe i'm trying to convince myself of that here...)

ya know what?...i think i'll take a chance on it and wait, what do ya say?  yes
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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2004, 10:35:12 AM »

 ok

and reading the article we know brain is still in,
- so i hope some doors are open for bucket doin shows with them again
i hope Tommy is right about the new website comin soon beer
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« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2004, 03:18:03 PM »

can't the record company write this off as a loss if Axl holds onto his dick, er I mean this supposed mass of music?  There has to be some kind of loop hole from the business end...
As far as a new GNR record coming out, who knows? confused
I like that "time is a one way ticket" thing someone mentioned... ok
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« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2004, 06:34:51 PM »

if we dont get any news/single/video/etc by april/may we can write 2005 off as well.
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« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2004, 06:37:08 PM »

I'll put the odds at 3-1 that it comes out in 2k5:

- We've heard from Dizzy and Tommy that it was sent to be mixed/mastered
- Tommy has referred to it as having been made
- Richard has said it's done
- No band member has tour dates booked beyond February

As always, no one can predict what Axl and Interscope will ultimately do, but the odds are better than they were in 2003....it looks like 2004 was a possiblity but  production might've ran too late, and legal wrangling and the Vh1 BTM may have cocked things up (the genie got out of the bottle and pissed Axl off--so he went back in the studio, maybe?).

Just my take....
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« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2004, 07:13:05 PM »

can't the record company write this off as a loss if Axl holds onto his dick, er I mean this supposed mass of music?? There has to be some kind of loop hole from the business end...
As far as a new GNR record coming out, who knows? confused
I like that "time is a one way ticket" thing someone mentioned... ok



There is a loop hole. Axl's house. But its only if Geffon loses money on the CD investment.
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