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« on: February 10, 2005, 06:02:22 AM »

There are people who disagree with my assesment British music is some of the worst in the developed world.

To prove a point here are the Brit Award winners, the only thing worse than the bands who were won/nominated where those they got to vote for them.....

Don't know about u, but i struggle to even see a good band in this list of horrors.....

British male solo artist: The Streets
Also nominated: Jamie Cullum, Lemar, Morrissey, The Streets, Will Young.


British female solo artist: Joss Stone
Also nominated: Amy Winehouse, Jamelia, Natasha Bedingfield, PJ Harvey.


British album: Keane - Hopes and Fears
Also nominated: Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand, , Muse - Absolution, Snow Patrol - Final Straw, The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free.

British group: Franz Ferdinand
Also nominated: Kasabian, Keane, Muse, Snow Patrol.


British rock act: Franz Ferdinand
Also nominated: Kasabian, Muse, Snow Patrol, The Libertines.(Chosen by Kerrang! TV viewers)


British urban act: Joss Stone
Dizzee Rascal, Jamelia, Lemar, The Streets.
(Voted for by MTV Base viewers)


Pop act: McFly
Also nominated: Avril Lavigne, Girls Aloud, Natasha Bedingfield, Westlife.
(Promoted by ITV1's CD:UK, The Sun, O2 and Samsung)

British breakthrough act: Keane
Also nominated: Franz Ferdinand, Joss Stone, Keane, Natasha Bedingfield,The Zutons. (Chosen by BBC Radio 1 listeners)


International breakthrough act: Scissor Sisters
Also nominated: Jet, Kanye West, Killers, Maroon 5.

British live act: Muse
Also nominated: Franz Ferdinand, Jamie Cullum, Kasabian, The Libertines.

British single: Will Young - Your Game
Also nominated: Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas?, Jamelia - Thank You, LMC vs U2 - Take Me To The Clouds Above, Shapeshifters - Lola's Theme, George Michael - Amazing, Keane - Everybody's Changing, Natasha Bedingfield - These Words, The Streets - Dry Your Eyes, Sugababes - In The Middle.
(Voted for by commercial radio listeners)


International male solo artist: Eminem
Also nominated: Brian Wilson, Kanye West, Tom Waits, Usher.

International female solo artist: Gwen Stefani
Also nominated: Alicia Keys, Anastacia, Kelis, Kylie Minogue.

International group: Scissor Sisters
Also nominated: Green Day, Maroon 5, OutKast, U2.

International album: Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
Also nominated: Killers - Hot Fuss, Maroon 5 - Songs About Jane, OutKast - Speakerboxxx/ The Love Below, U2 - How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb.


Brits 25 best song award: Robbie Williams - Angels
Also nominated: Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart, Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights, Queen - We Are Champions, Robbie Williams - Angels, Will Young - Leave Right Now.
(Voted for by BBC Radio 2 listeners)

Outstanding contribution to music: Bob Geldof

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 10:04:55 AM »

I don't think that proves British music is bad; it just proves the people voting, and that the dominating record companies etc. are bad. It's true that most of that list is pretty embarassing though.

One thing though.

Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division....best British song of the last 25 years? Easily. Best song ever? Maybe.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 11:25:53 AM »

I agree with Tj. I think the people in charge are persuaded by popularity rather than quality. They got one thing right though--Keane. They're a great band and deserve to win.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2005, 03:09:10 PM »

I really like Robbie's "Angels",but best song of the past 25 years? COME ON!!!
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 03:25:08 PM »

...i think franz ferdinand are one of the best rock bands around, and I like joss stone's soulful voice...but i dont like some of the bands on there...i definitely wouldnt say it was anywhere near the worst in the developed world...can you name some countries that have better music and better bands/singers?...

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 05:45:26 PM »

i definitely wouldnt say it was anywhere near the worst in the developed world...can you name some countries that have better music and better bands/singers?...



Actually yes, but my point was those bands are average or below even in an optimistic light. The Street's? Keane? C'mon.

As for Robbie Williams, best song of the last 25 years, well......

Getting the Sun to choose winners from a band selection was always going to be painful.....
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 10:02:36 PM »

...i think franz ferdinand are one of the best rock bands around,

I guess you changed your mind then... you called them bollocks not too long ago.


British group: Franz Ferdinand
Also nominated: Kasabian, Keane, Muse, Snow Patrol.

I like some Muse.  They have a lot of fans in LA.   As does Snow Patrol for some weird reason  nervous
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 06:20:51 AM »



Don't really like Muse but Snow Patrol are good.

We have Waits, U2, Green Day, Patrol...the list is not that bad izzo. Maybe if Def Leppard had been included?   Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2005, 06:31:14 AM »

Brits 25 best song award: Robbie Williams - Angels
Also nominated: Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart, Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights, Queen - We Are Champions, Robbie Williams - Angels, Will Young - Leave Right Now.
(Voted for by BBC Radio 2 listeners)

Will Young?!? What in the name of GOD, is this clown doing here?? nominated for best song in 25 years? get the fuck out with this shit?
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2005, 10:05:23 AM »

why is Queen's 'we are the champions' nominated and not 'bohemian rhapsody'?
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2005, 12:10:31 PM »

I thought this years Brits were somewhat a step in the right direction.  Let's face it's always going to be a bit naff. Because they rewards success over talent. But at least bands like Franz, Keane , Snow patrol, kasabian, PJ harvey was in there too. 

Now i'm not a fan of these bands - I don't mind a couple of their songs. But i'm not really  excited by them. But at least they write their own stuff and are out there doing it live ect. 

Even if you or i don't particuarly like them. It is a better direction than Girls aloud/spice girls/westlife bollocks.  At least they seem to be moving away from that horrible fake rubbish side of music. 

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2005, 12:46:54 PM »

why is Queen's 'we are the champions' nominated and not 'bohemian rhapsody'?

Cos they were released in the late 70's I think we are the champions was late 70's too
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2005, 12:49:40 PM »

WOT A LOAD OF SHITE! BEST SONG IN 25 yrs?Huh Def Leppard's Animal or U2-sometimes u cant make it on ur own (if the irish r considered in the Brits)
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2005, 03:20:02 PM »

Awards = paid advertising.

Grammys, Brits, VMA - it's all the same.



Indeed, i'm glad i'm not the only one who see's through their charade.
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Don't really like Muse but Snow Patrol are good.

We have Waits, U2, Green Day, Patrol...the list is not that bad izzo. Maybe if Def Leppard had been included?? ?Tongue

Lol - Green day and U2 aren't British acts though are they? U see my point? This was a thread about the frankly dire state of British music.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2005, 04:04:21 PM »

i definitely wouldnt say it was anywhere near the worst in the developed world...can you name some countries that have better music and better bands/singers?...



Actually yes, but my point was those bands are average or below even in an optimistic light. The Street's? Keane? C'mon.

As for Robbie Williams, best song of the last 25 years, well......

Getting the Sun to choose winners from a band selection was always going to be painful.....

well if the answer is yes then go ahead then, name some countries...i challenge you

streets, well yea, they are bollocks for sure, keane are pretty good, snow patrol are excellent...

as for angel, yes the song appeals to many people for many reasons and its the popularity that played a part in winning that song an award..i think its a good song, not my choice but obviously the choice for many people...its not just because of popularity that a song does well, people have to like it too

...but how would you judge the awards?, people choice, or polls, or some suited fat arses choosing whats popular or some pretentious over artistic pricks choosing them?...we all have different opinions, and if you put 20 people in a room to choose the awards and another 20 in another separate room, the choices will probably be quite different...these awards are nothing but an amalgamation of people individual choices...popularity is democracy so get used to it.

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2005, 04:16:57 PM »

Brit Awards are 'Full of Shit' according to Captain Obvious.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2005, 06:30:24 PM »

Well at least Joy Division were nominated.......
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2005, 05:30:13 AM »



Don't really like Muse but Snow Patrol are good.

We have Waits, U2, Green Day, Patrol...the list is not that bad izzo. Maybe if Def Leppard had been included?? ?Tongue

Lol - Green day and U2 aren't British acts though are they? U see my point? This was a thread about the frankly dire state of British music.


True...but hey they were nominated as the best international group/album
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