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« on: January 11, 2006, 10:29:59 PM »

No doubt velvet revolver has revitalized the public career of the guys - they are more visible now and getting bigger gigs than they could with snakepit, Loaded, Neurotic Outsiders etc.

Scott Weiland will always do fine either solo or with STP (I prefer him solo myself)
Slash will pretty much always do decent as far as a following
Duff can't draw huge crowds, but he may be the most talented of the bunch (plays guitar, bass, drums, vocals, songwriter)

Matt is getting the best exposure has has had in years

Dave is clearly profiting the most (fame-wise, artistically, and financially)

I have seen the following side-projects:
Snakepit 2.0 - better than VR
Loaded - WAY better than VR
STP 2X
Scott solo 2X
Izzy 2X with Duff in Japan

If there was no VR we would have snakepit, loaded, izzy being able to tour, STP or scott, and perhaps N.O

My question is whether you would prefer 5 times as many bands which are definitely better or one mediocre band

btw - I have seen VR twice and was not impressed

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 10:52:39 PM »

No, no, and hell no.
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Carlos_f_Rose
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006, 12:37:44 AM »

mmm I had liked to listen more music of  Slashs snakepit Version 1, they were the real deal, even better than some GNR songs. No GNR song can beat neither can I by Snakepit in my opinion.

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badapple81
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2006, 03:13:43 AM »

Velvet Revolver aren't great (good but not great).. but they are still tonnes better than any of the side projects.

So no.
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Jonathan
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 04:06:16 AM »

Should VR call it and quit?

NO.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006, 04:50:58 AM »

That's an interesting question.

Personally I'm not as impressed by VR mainly due to Scott, I don't particularly think his vocals tie in well with the music that they play. And in the VH1 Behind the Music programme the music when they were jamming was certainly a lot heavier (and to my mind better) than what appeared on Contraband. Plus what will Scott write about now he's clean? Flowers in the Garden? I might be wrong but the music doesn't seem to have the gut wrenching personal feeling about it that gnr did...everyone there played with their heart and soul (and i saw them loads of times) in this outfit it seems to be lacklustre at the best of times. Going through the motions...where are Slash's solos? MIA?

I still wonder if they wil produce a second album, they cut short the European tour in July last year, cos they were 'desparate' to get back into the studio...well...its more than 6 months later (and Duff had said that they wanted a Christmas release) sooo.....we might not even see a second album.

So...I would love to see Slash's Snakepit again...and Duff seems to be relegated to the background, even Axl gave him a song to sing. If VR folded it would be great to see the individual guys on the road again.

Should VR quit? Possibly.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006, 05:58:07 AM »

You're joking right?  Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2006, 06:11:14 AM »

I'm sorry but if you think Snakepit version 2.0 is better than VR than I seriously question your ear for good rock n'roll... Anyway, VR calling it quits is the dumbest fucking idea I ever heard unless it meant a Gn'R reunion....
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2006, 06:43:31 AM »

That's an interesting question.


Interesting for about 2 seconds. It's a dumb question.

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006, 08:27:34 AM »

Yeah, I would absolutely love that.

Snakepit was one of my fav bands around 2000 when I saw them live here in Cologne. Loaded kicked ass as well.
I never cared about Weiland or STP.

Yes, it would be great. They made great music back then, way better than that lame mainstream "rock" they're currently up to, with a lame singer and lame rehashes of old Guns songs.

Btw, I'm completely serious.


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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006, 09:28:23 AM »

Who would post such a thread if not Axl himself?
Both Snakepits were extremly good.
However,  I would give Snakepit 2 advantage  both over Pit 1 and over some GNR stuff.
Snakepit 2 was pure rock n roll.
Loaded was average in my IMO.
Neurotics were great!
VR may not be as good as Snakepit 2 yet,  still,  they get under skin after a while (especially after you see them live).
Fact is,  statement that we would be having Snakepit 2 around or Loaded if it weren't for VR is completly wrong.
Slash broke up Snakepit 2 a year and a half before VR started.
Loaded did the same.
This is as best as it gets and it can only get better.
Although,  wouldn't mind having Gilby or at least Izzy around...
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 10:05:54 AM »

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I still wonder if they wil produce a second album, they cut short the European tour in July last year, cos they were 'desparate' to get back into the studio...well...its more than 6 months later (and Duff had said that they wanted a Christmas release) sooo.....we might not even see a second album.

Are you serious........ 6 months, because it has taken over six months to write-record-and release an album you are assuming it will never come out. Well what does that say for Chinese Democracy?

As far as trading VR in for individual side projects. I wouldn't. The core of this band has a ton of potential, I just think that Wieland is a terrible lyricist, and some of the music my have been dumbed down (by him or for him) durring the recording process. I would love it if Wieland decided to go off on his own and VR put together an album sort of like Santana with the various guest Vocalists. That way they could put out an album as sort of a try out for the "next" album. you could see how the band writes and plays with a variety of different singers. I think that process may point out the Scott was the weak link in the band...... Not that I don't like Scott, It's just that stylisticly he is very different than the direction this band should go in.

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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006, 10:35:29 AM »

You know what would be really cool?Maybe just for a one time thing or a really short tour..Is to have all the bands on one bill with VR headlining..I mean Snakepit 1 could open,then Loaded or Neurotic,then STP,then Snakepit 2 then VR...all playing 5 or 6 songs except VR
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 12:28:57 PM »

heeeeeell no! none of their sideprojects were better or even equal to VR imo.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 01:05:23 PM »

I think Snakepit 1.0 was much better than VR (and most of the GN'R stuff...), and I prefer even Snakepit 2.0 over VR, but those bands weren't successful and broke up. I'm happy that VR's around, they have the potential and I hope for a more blues-rock-based second album.

BTW Scott is a very good lyricist but Contraband is not his finest work. Now they'll have more time for the album, they have more material, know each other so it'll kick ass!  yes
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2006, 03:38:02 PM »

VR is no "one mediocre band"
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2006, 03:45:58 PM »

should one of the best rock acts out at the moment quit, a band which are good and have some fame finally, a band conisting of members of favourite bands......quit? A band that if it wasnt for them, scott wouldnt be off drugs so y ou wouldnt have STP anyway now.....quit?Huh?

NO FUCKING WAY
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2006, 07:20:51 PM »

I say Snakepit 1 with duff on Bass and Gilby on rythym.  THat was a bad ass album.  Back and Fourth again is an awesome song.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2006, 12:06:02 AM »

should one of the best rock acts out at the moment quit, a band which are good and have some fame finally, a band conisting of members of favourite bands......quit? A band that if it wasnt for them, scott wouldnt be off drugs so y ou wouldnt have STP anyway now.....quit?Huh?

NO FUCKING WAY

Seriously, I can't believe some people are actually answering this question with "Ehhhhh, I kind of miss Slash's Snakepit"
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2006, 12:10:03 AM »

We just all miss the old slash.
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