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« on: February 07, 2007, 08:02:16 AM »

Looking for a calm, polite discussion. please do not focus on "France".
 
Two things happened recently in world's diplomacy.

1 - IRAN
Chirac, french President, has made a "touchy" comment on Iran situation.

Chirac muses on Iran, and then retreats
PARIS: President Jacques Chirac said in an interview that an Iran that possessed one or two nuclear weapons would not pose much of a danger, adding that if Iran were ever to launch a nuclear weapon against a country like Israel, it would lead to the immediate destruction of Tehran.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/31/news/france.php

After the quick shock, his retreats, the bashing of all sides (left and right wing). People are starting to understand what he meant, and that, despite the character - he is far from being a good president - Jacques Chirac has the crazy ability to be right on spot. Usually on international issues.

2 - IRAQ 2008
French diplomacy comes ahead and advise the USA to set a 2008 horizon date for american and allies troops to return. Stating that, as they said in 2003, the military management was useless.
And time proved it (as people always say " time will tell").
3000 americans dead
12000 iraqis civilians ?dead


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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2007, 11:08:10 AM »

This thread is going to anti-american thread  yes
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2007, 11:24:00 AM »

dude, ALL of wat-evers threads are anti-american/anti semetic.

he is a joke.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 11:41:08 AM »

I bet this guy lives locked in his basement, reading newspapers and seing conspiracy theories everywhere.

It's boring in the end. Wich is a shame cause some subjects he brings up are interresting.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 11:58:31 AM »


Looking for a calm, polite discussion.


Better luck next time.

Note that Chirac agrees that Iran should not be armed with any nuclear weapons (whether 1 bomb or 1,000) because of the resulting domino effect of every Arab country (particularly the Sunni Arabs) having one thereafter.  Nobody benefits from a Middle East proliferated with nuclear weapons.

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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 01:00:00 PM »

dude, ALL of wat-evers threads are anti-american/anti semetic.

he is a joke.

care to tell me how this is anti semitic, mr.nesquick?

NicoRourke > i dont see why you'd say that? What have i dont wrong? I dont share your views? tell me.
Where is the conspiracy?

GeorgeSteel, this is right.
Knowing that a good start would be the actual reversal process: removing nuclear weapons from the region.
Problem: Isreal is equiped (oh ! what did i say ! this must be anti semitic !).
Again, some actors are reading the issue locally, throught a very small hole.


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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 01:06:47 PM »

We all lose if Iran gets the nukes.

With great power comes great responsibility. Iran does not show any responsibility when it threatens to wipe Israel off the map or say that the holocaust never happened.

The North Korea situation is much different ( and not as dangerous) since they have China on their ass should they use one. N. Korea can not survive without China. Iran has no such " big brother" to worry about offending.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2007, 02:43:14 PM »


Knowing that a good start would be the actual reversal process: removing nuclear weapons from the region.
Problem: Isreal is equiped (oh ! what did i say ! this must be anti semitic !).


Simple answer - Israel is a US ally; so they get to keep the bomb.  I don't make the rules, my friend.  Iran was once a US ally and, when it was, the US helped it create the nuclear program that it's now so staunchly opposed to.  In fact, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz, while with the Ford Administration in the 70s, were all heavily involved in promoting an Iranian nuclear program (and not just for energy).  Mitterand's hands were not clean either.

Of course, that all changed after the 1979 Revolution.  Amazing how our former alliances in that region always come back to haunt us. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 03:16:25 PM »

stop dissin my country all the time omg
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2007, 03:36:45 PM »

stop dissin my country all the time omg

i dont diss the usa, i just diss some of your governement actions.
does it affect you?
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 03:37:56 PM »

no but how would you like it if i made tons of threads about your country sucked
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2007, 03:40:11 PM »

^ I like this one all ready  ok
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2007, 03:44:03 PM »

huh what do you mean on the other hand
i never said your country sucked
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2007, 03:45:06 PM »

huh what do you mean on the other hand
i never said your country sucked

im glad. i didnt say your sucked either. we just wasted 4 posts. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2007, 03:45:46 PM »

i dont mind
so what did you mean "on the other hand" then?
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2007, 03:54:21 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2007, 05:13:11 PM »

huh what do you mean on the other hand
i never said your country sucked

im glad. i didnt say your sucked either. we just wasted 4 posts. Wink


You've wasted A LOT more then just 4   rofl
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2007, 05:17:42 PM »

what is with all these repetative  threads that always lead to the same thing 
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2007, 05:25:09 PM »

huh what do you mean on the other hand
i never said your country sucked

im glad. i didnt say your sucked either. we just wasted 4 posts. Wink


You've wasted A LOT more then just 4   rofl

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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2007, 06:28:03 PM »

Dudes, you take this guy way too seriously.  hihi

In his Hiroshima thread, he kept trying to bring up Israel and Iran, and then when the thread became anti-American and he couldn't spew his anti-semitic rhetoric, he started a new thread.

Don't give him the satisfaction.

I'll go play in the street now.
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