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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 04:43:54 PM »

I think it all boils down to farming.

As long as a tribe/community/civilization is able to conveniently live off  nomad life of a hunter/gatherer they tend to stick with it. A small tribe that lives off hunting/garhering has a very convinient life as long as enviroment can stomach their hunting/gathering.

End up farming for one reason or another and  you soon end up wanting  a larger, more organized community. You got need of a  permanent settlement. So you form a village. Then you find yourself in need of a whole lot of professions; farmers in your village need their tools, farming means putting things in stock and putting things in stock means need of bureaucracy is there. Writing, math takes steps further. Pernament settlement helps architecture evolve.
The professionals dont like hanging with rednecks feeding them so a city is formed.
In order to keep all this together  you might want someone to run the show. So whole concept of established authority with necessary tools to enforce it is there.Including power struggles and inner warfare.

Combine all of the above with ever present need of weapons and armies  and you are guaraneed to have both in better quality than a tribe that sticks with hunting.

..And while the farmer guy is busy sweating his ass off on the field, getting his ass ripped off by guys living in a city nearby, or getting his  ass killed off in a war in the name of his master, the hunter guy just keeps shooting shit with his bow, having fun and going lallaalaalal. Until he sees masts of a ship fleet on horizon. Then thats him fucked.
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2007, 01:27:24 AM »

It boils down to warfare. Most technological advances happen as a result of the search for "better" weapons. In the Americas, warfare was between tribes or clans, not nation states.

Yeah, but why Europeans evolved faster than Americans, I know it has to be something about survival, but my thoughts are that maybe when Europe was being ruled by Romans, in America life hasn't begun yet or they have just begun, and thats the gap between Europe and America. IMO.

It has nothing to do with warfare.  Think about it, people.  Two groups of people: athletes and nerds.  Now, places like America and Africa...BIG predators.  Bears, lions...you get the idea.  Those big predators can catch and eat the nerds, who aren't as fast as the athletes.  So no one really thought up gunpowder, large ships, etc.

At least, that's what I was taught. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2007, 10:10:20 AM »

Could it be the apparel? Hmm.? Those wearing loin clothes are surely faster and more agile than someone running around in a robe or a sheet covering them.? Just think about it some Roman guy tripping over his robe and being stoned by a dude in a loin cloth.? The Native American Indian for instance were bad ass in their loin cloth compared to the well dressed and wigged new explorers until the explorers started using rifles to regain the advantage.? The Native American starting wearing long pants too and started opening casinos which caused many white men to lose their shirts, so its a contiuous cycle.? ?drool

But then again I could be wrong
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2007, 01:55:48 PM »

Maybe it comes down to natural resources?? There is so many untapped resources in america due to it's size.? The equation may be unfair?? Just by stacking the EU vs. America is just odd.? Why intend to set up the Gap between all of Europe with 1 country whose origion came from European colonization.? The Europeans were in search of a trade route but found something better, more land and resources.?
? ? In mordern day America, the resourses are untapped due to politics, which leads America to be dependent on imported petroleum and in turn causes financial highs and lows.
? International trade is unbalanced especially with China and the stock markets are buying up the American dollar and hugh amounts of business causing a potential financial disaster.
? However, there are safegards to prevent a total failing of the American markets.? It has been studied and the belief is that if the dollar and the US Stocks and Bonds become too weak, that China or whoever will fall harder and it will be America that will regain finacial stability quicker.? There are mathmatical and financial stop gaps or brakes set in place for such occurances should they arise.
? This happened when Japan and Saudi Arabia were buying up the dollar and real estate in the late 80's early 90's.? ?Property values and the dollar weakened and the 2 countries lost tons of money.? The Japanese took the hit harder because it didn't have the resources to recover.? The Japanese rely hevily on America for their oil, steel and ores.? Where the Saudi's just got out faster and produced more oil to recoup their losses.
? ?There are so many things to look at but a real question should be why try and estabish a gap when the differences most times, lie in the political arena.? The 2 players are very reliant on one another so why try and put a wedge in it?? Regardless of what the media would leave you to believe Europe and America may fail w/o each other.? Let them to continue to operate as seperate unions with common goals even if there is a difference of opinion on how to reach the goals as long as it benefits everyone.? It's food for thought.
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