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« Reply #220 on: August 04, 2008, 10:03:56 AM »

Two Face killing 5 people.....Maroni, Driver, (himself) - thats three.....good ol' counting there Nolan....

He also kills the cop in the bar and presumably Ramirez as well. That's why Gordon says: "He killed 5 people, 2 cops".

No, Ramirez was allowed to live after the coin toss.

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When Gordon says "Five dead," what five is he referring to?

At the end of the film, Gordon says, "five dead, two of them cops," referring to Harvey Dent's (Two Face's) victims, but it isn't completely clear how Gordon arrived at this number.

Here is what we know and what we can speculate on:

The first death was Detective Wuertz, who Dent shot in the bar.

Then, just before the car ride where Dent kills Maroni, we see Maroni get into his car with another passenger entering from the other side. Maroni is surprised when he starts talking to the person who is supposed to be in the car with him, and then realizes it's Dent instead. We can assume Dent killed the passenger to take his place in the car.

Next was Maroni's driver, who Dent shoots, and then Maroni himself, who we presume died in the resulting crash.

The tally is now four: Wuertz, Maroni's driver, Maroni, and the unnamed passenger.

Since Ramirez (the female cop) was only punched out and not killed, the fifth would have to be the cop in the hospital, the one who goes to retrieve Harvey, only to be gunned down by the Joker. Since no one knows that the Joker was there, it would be presumed that Harvey killed him--though we in the audience know better.

Gordon might mean Dent himself. But that would only leave one cop among the five dead; and he says there are two. It's also possible that more of Dent's murders were filmed but cut out of the final release, resulting in this slight continuity problem.
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« Reply #221 on: August 04, 2008, 01:37:34 PM »

Two Face killing 5 people.....Maroni, Driver, (himself) - thats three.....good ol' counting there Nolan....

He also kills the cop in the bar and presumably Ramirez as well. That's why Gordon says: "He killed 5 people, 2 cops".

Indeed the cop in the bar took a bullet, but Ramirez lives...and Dent does say as much

...the real point however is - why would anyone have blamed him for those deaths?

Who knew it was him? There were no witnesses - why would Maroni + Driver deaths be even liked to Dent? Might have been DNA in the car, but they got those results done mighty quick if thats the case! Even DNA would be circumstantial - especially when the Joker was running amock with Dent's DNA on playing cards anyway...

Was it really so hard to blame the Joker?

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« Reply #222 on: August 04, 2008, 07:28:45 PM »

So I'm clearly not alone in thinking that Bale's "growly Batman voice" is occasionally both irritating and laugh-out-loud funny:

http://www.newsarama.com/film/ap-080804-dark-knight-bale-voice.html

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080803/121779624000.html

Also, I'm saddened to hear about Morgan Freeman's car accident.  Here's to a speedy recovery!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-08-04-freeman-accident_N.htm
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« Reply #223 on: August 04, 2008, 08:27:00 PM »

So I'm clearly not alone in thinking that Bale's "growly Batman voice" is occasionally both irritating and laugh-out-loud funny:

http://www.newsarama.com/film/ap-080804-dark-knight-bale-voice.html

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080803/121779624000.html


It doesn't annoy me to the point that I'd complain about it though.

Look the like same article twice BTW.
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« Reply #224 on: August 04, 2008, 11:10:51 PM »

So I'm clearly not alone in thinking that Bale's "growly Batman voice" is occasionally both irritating and laugh-out-loud funny:

http://www.newsarama.com/film/ap-080804-dark-knight-bale-voice.html

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080803/121779624000.html


Yeah, that annoyed me too.  I kept thinking "Hock that thing up, would ya!"
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« Reply #225 on: August 05, 2008, 07:29:36 AM »

i love the voice, its great cheese, kinda Clint Eastwood sounding.
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« Reply #226 on: August 05, 2008, 07:03:28 PM »

Yet another record set:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-08-05-dark-knight-record_N.htm
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« Reply #227 on: August 06, 2008, 03:10:31 AM »

awesome, but i think it might take longer then two weeks to reach 500 million. i went to see it again on monday and the theater wasnt even that packed. saw it around 4pm and id say not even the last two rows on top would have gotten filled up if all of thee audience sat right next to each other.
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« Reply #228 on: August 06, 2008, 10:47:20 AM »

awesome, but i think it might take longer then two weeks to reach 500 million. i went to see it again on monday and the theater wasnt even that packed. saw it around 4pm and id say not even the last two rows on top would have gotten filled up if all of thee audience sat right next to each other.

Ehh....matinees.  I had the same experience at a matinee, only I went about three days after it came out.  I'd be interested to see what % of the box office take comes from matinees.  My guess would be about 10%.
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« Reply #229 on: August 06, 2008, 03:58:24 PM »

They will have another huge weekend as nothing is coming out
U figure the next big movie coming out is Tropic Thunder August 13th

So it should have another big week

it isnt gonna make 600 million but a little over 500 million is a guarantee.

I would guess 50 million this weekend, then 25 then 20, then 15 then 10 then a couple of 8's.

so id guess it will finish around 540 million.
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« Reply #230 on: August 06, 2008, 04:24:24 PM »

more like 25 - 30 for the weekend . should have another close weekend for the top spot with Pineapple Express .
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« Reply #231 on: August 07, 2008, 12:09:49 AM »

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?
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« Reply #232 on: August 07, 2008, 12:11:49 AM »

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?

their will not be two face .


as for the the next baddie well they haven;t even started on the script yet. so who knows. I think they have a good idea but nothing set in stone.
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« Reply #233 on: August 07, 2008, 12:30:06 AM »

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?

their will not be two face .


as for the the next baddie well they haven;t even started on the script yet. so who knows. I think they have a good idea but nothing set in stone.

who said no two face?

besides your gut feeling
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« Reply #234 on: August 07, 2008, 12:33:09 AM »

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?

their will not be two face .


as for the the next baddie well they haven;t even started on the script yet. so who knows. I think they have a good idea but nothing set in stone.

who said no two face?

besides your gut feeling

Didn't he die?
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« Reply #235 on: August 07, 2008, 12:35:14 AM »

yeah he did ... someone really should have seen the movie before posting.
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« Reply #236 on: August 07, 2008, 12:40:34 AM »

I've seen it twice thanks   Cheesy

and we won't know if he really died or not  Wink
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« Reply #237 on: August 07, 2008, 12:52:06 AM »

Two-Face aint dead, but Im hoping for the Riddler.  Catwoman and Penguin would be cool too. Ive heard they want to do a villian that hasnt been on film yet, which would be hard to do.  Scarface, Mad Hatter, Man-Bat?  I dont think so.  Clayface?  Nolan cant do any of these with the route he took.
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« Reply #238 on: August 07, 2008, 01:46:52 AM »

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?

i read in THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER that Johnny Depp is being 'considered' to play The Riddler, as well as Phillip Seymore Hoffman  for The Pengiun.      thats what i read thats not what im hoping for.

i'm not sure what i'd like to see for the next movie-- the joker story is far too good to drop, and i'm not totally against a re-casting of the part.


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« Reply #239 on: August 07, 2008, 03:08:35 AM »

so anyone hear about any villians in the next one besides Two-Face?

i read in THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER that Johnny Depp is being 'considered' to play The Riddler, as well as Phillip Seymore Hoffman  for The Pengiun.      thats what i read thats not what im hoping for.

i'm not sure what i'd like to see for the next movie-- the joker story is far too good to drop, and i'm not totally against a re-casting of the part.




Ya, movies.ign.com also reported sometime last week that Depp was in the running for Riddler and Hoffman for Pengiun. At first it was rumored that Depp may take over the Joker role but that apparently has been axed. I'd still say its a little to early to really tell where their going with it. I'm sure they have a general story they want to do but as far as casting goes, I wouldn't expect it too soon.  smoking
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