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Title: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on April 30, 2019, 11:30:32 AM
https://www.aclfestival.com/lineup/poster/

(https://www.aclfestival.com/wp-www-aclfestival-com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/acl19-900px-lineup430-ba78ccec.jpg)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on April 30, 2019, 12:41:21 PM
So it does look like GN'R will play both weekends. Kinda like Coachella in 2016.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: rebelhipi on April 30, 2019, 01:31:41 PM
Very cool!


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: cineater on April 30, 2019, 02:00:00 PM
Large crowds, perfect to introduce a new song for a new era of GNR, imo.  And while I'm at it, there's something wrong about 4, odd numbers are better, we need a 5th show even if it's a small club.  :D


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: (t) on April 30, 2019, 06:48:50 PM
Seems like GNR is by far the heaviest band on the bill. I wonder what the crowd will be like.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: PermissionToLand on April 30, 2019, 11:07:12 PM
Do they broadcast live or release videos in any way?


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: Lord Stan on May 01, 2019, 03:09:30 AM
Large crowds, perfect to introduce a new song for a new era of GNR, imo.

No, no and no. We have spent decades and thousands following the band. We must get the new music first and not in some festival where most are random people :peace:


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: tim_m on May 01, 2019, 08:26:29 AM
Do they broadcast live or release videos in any way?
One of the weekends is usually aired on PBS.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: johnreed3344 on May 01, 2019, 11:37:21 AM
assuming GN'R is Friday night headliner?!?!


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on May 01, 2019, 12:46:29 PM
assuming GN'R is Friday night headliner?!?!

Would make sense since there's already a show for the second Sunday in TN. Plus you have to travel there.....





/jarmo



Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: johnreed3344 on May 01, 2019, 01:17:40 PM
assuming GN'R is Friday night headliner?!?!

Would make sense since there's already a show for the second Sunday in TN. Plus you have to travel there.....





/jarmo



figuring that as well.....have a buddy who lives in Austin might fly down for GN'R! Still praying for a NYC show  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: Natalie on May 01, 2019, 05:23:08 PM
Do you think we are getting more dates or that's it? maybe a weekend in NYC or a date in Houston/Dallas between the Austin dates?


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: antonyrose on May 03, 2019, 10:44:30 AM
Hell yeah!! I can't wait. I'm going both weekends and this will be the easiest trip to I've ever made to see them, since 93. I live in Austin, don't really care for ACL but i'm all over it this year.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: cineater on May 03, 2019, 07:04:20 PM
Do you think we are getting more dates or that's it? maybe a weekend in NYC or a date in Houston/Dallas between the Austin dates?

I think this is it.  It's too costly to get out all their stage stuff and activate a full crew for a few single shows.  Unless there is some more festivals and I didn't see any I thought would work, this is it.

Good news though, if they want to keep that crew and not pay to store all that stuff, they're probably working on a world tour.  Little road rats that they are, we'll all get to see them.  :D


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2019, 04:34:12 PM
It has been awhile since Ive seen an article on GNR this bad.  Only thing I got out of it was the history of the band as seen thru the eyes of a pretentious hack "journalist" 



Why Are We Still Rewarding Guns N' Roses in 2019?

This year’s Austin City Limits festival has announced its 2019 line-up, and for the most part, the roster is solid. The Cure, fresh off their induction into both the Rock & Roll and Shady Bitch Halls of Fame. Billie Eilish, the filthy possessed child from every American horror movie of the last 15 years. Cardi B on weekend one and Robyn on weekend two. Kacey Musgraves and Lizzo in the smaller print on the poster, because the world seems intent on undervaluing American royalty.

And because 2019 is garbage, the festival will be headlined by Guns N’ Roses, who are the worst, and you know it.


Read on if you want, it goes downhill from here......https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a27324259/why-is-guns-n-roses-headlining-austin-city-limits-2019/?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=socialflowFBESQ&utm_medium=social-media&fbclid=IwAR2YowYCWceiNoqsmHff7r-vLTMvQHkJ2emKVWZvc5ndK1Rq2diIRNWxvG8 (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a27324259/why-is-guns-n-roses-headlining-austin-city-limits-2019/?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=socialflowFBESQ&utm_medium=social-media&fbclid=IwAR2YowYCWceiNoqsmHff7r-vLTMvQHkJ2emKVWZvc5ndK1Rq2diIRNWxvG8)


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: The Wight Gunner on May 04, 2019, 05:17:25 PM
Its a hipster mag, what do you expect... ::)


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: sky dog on May 05, 2019, 07:26:04 AM
“Who is a Replacements fan just like me.”  I happen to have been in college during the AFD time period. It just so happens that 3 of my all time favorite records were released in 1987-AFD, Pleased To Meet Me by The Replacements, and Joshua Tree by U2. There was no love lost between the fan bases.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: allwaystired on May 05, 2019, 08:47:40 AM
Disclaimer: I don't agree with the article!

Having said that.....don't you think we're saying it's terrible just because we don't agree with it? Critics should be free to say things like this. It's not badly written, by someone too young to remember what GNR were all about; he was there, he's expressing his opinion. It's reasonably witty in places and he seems informed. It's not an ignorant hack-job.

It's a modern phenomenum to deride any opinion other than ones own. It's ok to have different opinions. It doesn't make you a bad writer.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on May 05, 2019, 09:49:59 AM
don't you think we're saying it's terrible just because we don't agree with it?

No, because we can read and it's a shitty article with errors in it written just to get a reaction....  :D


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GNR burst onto the scene in 1987, and were ridiculous from the jump.

Then he goes on to point out how ridiculous the opening of the Jungle video is.
Now, I can respect that opinion, while disagreeing. But if that's an issue.... Jeez!


So to answer the question in the article's headline. Because there's no one else like them. No matter how much you hate the band, how much you claim to be a hipster who only likes bands that no one else listens to, the fact remains that GN'R has released some of the most iconic songs of all time, and people wanna see the band!





/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: allwaystired on May 05, 2019, 10:31:05 AM
don't you think we're saying it's terrible just because we don't agree with it?

No, because we can read and it's a shitty article with errors in it written just to get a reaction....  :D


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GNR burst onto the scene in 1987, and were ridiculous from the jump.

Then he goes on to point out how ridiculous the opening of the Jungle video is.
Now, I can respect that opinion, while disagreeing. But if that's an issue.... Jeez!


So to answer the question in the article's headline. Because there's no one else like them. No matter how much you hate the band, how much you claim to be a hipster who only likes bands that no one else listens to, the fact remains that GN'R has released some of the most iconic songs of all time, and people wanna see the band!





/jarmo


Oh it absolutely is written to get a reaction....but aren't we giving it what it wants if we do anything other than shrug our shoulders at it?

I feel a bit like people get so angry if people think differently to them now, that they can't even tolerate those thoughts existing. It's an opinion thing- I'm fine if this guy doesn't like GNR. I may qell not like a lot of the stuff he does!

I mean, goodness knows why I'm sort-of defending this article! Playing devil's advocate a bit I think, as people's reactions to it seem worryingly extreme.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
To elaborate further on the article, It's typical hipster douchebag stuff.  Title may has well been ' I hate GnR .'

It is one thing to be critical of the band, but to slam them with almost every sentence in a lengthy article? (The writer does appreciate how good they are live , sort of.)  Not well written and has a decent amount of inaccuracies.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on May 05, 2019, 11:47:44 AM
Oh it absolutely is written to get a reaction....but aren't we giving it what it wants if we do anything other than shrug our shoulders at it?

I feel a bit like people get so angry if people think differently to them now, that they can't even tolerate those thoughts existing. It's an opinion thing- I'm fine if this guy doesn't like GNR. I may qell not like a lot of the stuff he does!

I mean, goodness knows why I'm sort-of defending this article! Playing devil's advocate a bit I think, as people's reactions to it seem worryingly extreme.


I saw it and didn't post it because I figured that's what this guy wanted. Attention.


To elaborate further on the article, It's typical hipster douchebag stuff.  Title may has well been ' I hate GnR .'

It is one thing to be critical of the band, but to slam them with almost every sentence in a lengthy article? (The writer does appreciate how good they are live , sort of.)  Not well written and has a decent amount of inaccuracies.


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Duff McKagan and Slash are tentatively back in the band

Since April 1st, 2016. Obviously this guy hadn't noticed! 2.5 years of touring and he had no clue..... Until they were booked to play at ACL!





/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: wakeup on May 05, 2019, 02:08:18 PM
That’s just an opinion piece.  Just go with the saying opinions are like assholes everyone has one.  I just love that November Rain might sound like it has a full orchestra but most that was done with synth. No that’s was impressive for the time it was done.

He will be at the show even if he says he won’t.  Maybe his opinion will change with his press pass getting him front row probably.  Maybe Jarmo, if here, can get a good picture of him singing along just Incase he tries to say it was not a good show.

“I see you standing there. You think you’re so cool but why don’t you just...” ;D



Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: NaturalLight on May 05, 2019, 04:48:18 PM
What go me was the d-bag claimed to be a Replacements fan, noting that Axl "stole" Tommy from the band. Yeah, the Replacements broke up fucking years earlier. Idiot.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on May 06, 2019, 05:47:22 AM
What go me was the d-bag claimed to be a Replacements fan, noting that Axl "stole" Tommy from the band. Yeah, the Replacements broke up fucking years earlier. Idiot.


I guess his logic is that if Tommy had been available, the Replacements would've reunited years earlier than they did.  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: sakuL on May 06, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
Am I the only who actually had a laugh reading the text even though I love the band?
C'mon, it's obviously not a serious journalism. Take it easy.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on May 06, 2019, 01:40:52 PM
This type of concert reminds me of what was it in NY the Governors Ball or something a few years back forgive me if I am butchering what the concert was called but definitely not your hard rock type of festival. Would be very interested in seeing the type of reaction they get. Even if no new material is played its always good to see the type of chemistry they have going for them on display.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: Lord Stan on May 06, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
Am I the only who actually had a laugh reading the text even though I love the band?
C'mon, it's obviously not a serious journalism. Take it easy.

No, I did not laugh but this almost made me cry. This, of course, has nothing to do with real journalism but why are these pieces published. It's not even a click-biting title.

This same could have been said in a few sentences but this is the world we live in. Just publish rubbish and people will read it and post it on social media. I don't know the magazine (vaguely familiar name) and the writer's boss will be very happy because, as mentioned, the reaction.

My feedback to them is that write a real click-baiting title or real journalism. Don't write this in-between stupidness. In this case nothing was done well or correctly :'(


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: PermissionToLand on May 06, 2019, 11:16:07 PM
don't you think we're saying it's terrible just because we don't agree with it?

No, because we can read and it's a shitty article with errors in it written just to get a reaction....  :D


Quote
GNR burst onto the scene in 1987, and were ridiculous from the jump.

Then he goes on to point out how ridiculous the opening of the Jungle video is.
Now, I can respect that opinion, while disagreeing. But if that's an issue.... Jeez!


So to answer the question in the article's headline. Because there's no one else like them. No matter how much you hate the band, how much you claim to be a hipster who only likes bands that no one else listens to, the fact remains that GN'R has released some of the most iconic songs of all time, and people wanna see the band!





/jarmo


Oh it absolutely is written to get a reaction....but aren't we giving it what it wants if we do anything other than shrug our shoulders at it?

I feel a bit like people get so angry if people think differently to them now, that they can't even tolerate those thoughts existing. It's an opinion thing- I'm fine if this guy doesn't like GNR. I may qell not like a lot of the stuff he does!

I mean, goodness knows why I'm sort-of defending this article! Playing devil's advocate a bit I think, as people's reactions to it seem worryingly extreme.

You're absolutely right. It's like somebody saying they hate the taste of shrimp and losing your mind because "BUT I LOVE SHRIMP!!!"

Also, I think it's pretty clear that a lot of the article is tongue in cheek hyperbole. It doesn't exactly make for an interesting article to give a balanced and nuanced opinion on a band. It would also be pretty short if he just said "Eh, they're not my cup of tea."


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 08, 2019, 07:38:31 AM
This type of concert reminds me of what was it in NY the Governors Ball or something a few years back forgive me if I am butchering what the concert was called but definitely not your hard rock type of festival. Would be very interested in seeing the type of reaction they get. Even if no new material is played its always good to see the type of chemistry they have going for them on display.



Also someone who isn't a fan or isn't familiar with present day GNR will likely have a preconceived notion of them shattered when they actually see and hear them play. I think this type of crowd would appreciate the extended jams of the classic songs.  (Rocket Queen for example)


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: echeguns on May 23, 2019, 04:23:43 PM
Best girlfriend ever!  Got me 2 VIP tickets to the 2nd weekend!!! Cheers!!!!


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on May 23, 2019, 05:11:25 PM
Best girlfriend ever!  Got me 2 VIP tickets to the 2nd weekend!!! Cheers!!!!


Awesome! Congrats! :D



/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: jarmo on June 11, 2019, 02:38:28 PM
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/jarmo


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 11, 2019, 08:52:10 PM
I wonder when Tame Impala is coming out with another album. Killer stuff.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: allwaystired on June 11, 2019, 09:48:14 PM
I wonder when Tame Impala is coming out with another album. Killer stuff.

Really? Bores the living shit out of me. Reminds me of lift music!


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 12, 2019, 10:00:52 PM
I wonder when Tame Impala is coming out with another album. Killer stuff.

Really? Bores the living shit out of me. Reminds me of lift music!

They're the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd. Sounds like you're the boring one here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwPyZBYtEzg


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: allwaystired on June 13, 2019, 07:55:21 AM
I wonder when Tame Impala is coming out with another album. Killer stuff.

Really? Bores the living shit out of me. Reminds me of lift music!

They're the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd. Sounds like you're the boring one here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwPyZBYtEzg


....and there lies the problem for me! They sound EXACTLY like the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd, which to me is just something from the past now. if I wanted to listen to the Beatles or Pink Floyd, I'd do just that- I'd rather hear new acts doing something a bit more original. I'm not sure how it qualifies as 'boring' to want that from new music?



Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 14, 2019, 01:58:15 AM
I wonder when Tame Impala is coming out with another album. Killer stuff.

Really? Bores the living shit out of me. Reminds me of lift music!

They're the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd. Sounds like you're the boring one here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwPyZBYtEzg


....and there lies the problem for me! They sound EXACTLY like the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd, which to me is just something from the past now. if I wanted to listen to the Beatles or Pink Floyd, I'd do just that- I'd rather hear new acts doing something a bit more original. I'm not sure how it qualifies as 'boring' to want that from new music?



Is there something wrong with sounding like they're from the golden era of music? It's not like they're Greta Van Fleet literally aping old artists and having no inspiration. Their songwriting is on the level of those legendary old bands and they absolutely have their own sound. Nothing by them actually sounds like a Beatles or PF song whatsoever.

Guns N Roses was often accused of sounding just like Aerosmith mixed with AC/DC, and their sound was "something from the past" when they came out. What matters is the songwriting, and Tame Impala are brilliant at that just like GNR. Not to mention their sublime use of effects. I can only assume you have never actually listened to them on quality speakers or headphones.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: sky dog on June 15, 2019, 08:58:37 AM
Pretty cool song...does have a Syd Barrett era Floyd feel to it.

Either way Friday is ridiculous...Thom Yorke then Jack White then Tame Impala then Guns.  :o

Now if we could somehow get Yorke to play some Radiohead songs and White to play some White Stripes, it would really be on.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: rebelhipi on June 15, 2019, 09:56:26 AM
I love Tame Impala. Im going to see them this August.

Id love to go to Austin too. GNR, apparently great city and festival, F1 race around the same time. : ok:


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: allwaystired on June 15, 2019, 03:17:51 PM
I wonder when Tame Impala is coming out with another album. Killer stuff.

Really? Bores the living shit out of me. Reminds me of lift music!

They're the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd. Sounds like you're the boring one here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwPyZBYtEzg


....and there lies the problem for me! They sound EXACTLY like the Beatles mixed with Pink Floyd, which to me is just something from the past now. if I wanted to listen to the Beatles or Pink Floyd, I'd do just that- I'd rather hear new acts doing something a bit more original. I'm not sure how it qualifies as 'boring' to want that from new music?



Is there something wrong with sounding like they're from the golden era of music? It's not like they're Greta Van Fleet literally aping old artists and having no inspiration. Their songwriting is on the level of those legendary old bands and they absolutely have their own sound. Nothing by them actually sounds like a Beatles or PF song whatsoever.

Guns N Roses was often accused of sounding just like Aerosmith mixed with AC/DC, and their sound was "something from the past" when they came out. What matters is the songwriting, and Tame Impala are brilliant at that just like GNR. Not to mention their sublime use of effects. I can only assume you have never actually listened to them on quality speakers or headphones.

There's nothing wrong with "sounding like the golden era of music", if you want that no. There are probably people who want all their music to sound like Bill Haley and The Comets as they probably view that as "the golden era of music".  I'd rather something sound fresh and original, and like it was made in 2019. I see little difference between Greta Van Fleet and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Greta Van Fleet.

That's a fairly arrogant and patronising approach to someone that says they find something boring.: " I can only assume you have never actually listened to them on quality speakers or headphones". You assume very wrong - I've heard them through the speakers of a top level recording studio. Still find them dull and boring.

You know, it's ok for people to have different opinions to you right, and find something you like boring? It doesn't make them wrong.


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 16, 2019, 02:34:10 AM
There's nothing wrong with "sounding like the golden era of music", if you want that no. There are probably people who want all their music to sound like Bill Haley and The Comets as they probably view that as "the golden era of music".  I'd rather something sound fresh and original, and like it was made in 2019. I see little difference between Greta Van Fleet and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Greta Van Fleet.


Again, literally all of the same things apply to Guns and you apparently like them. Or do you want the new album to "sound like it was made in 2019" and have no guitars, a verse by Nicki Minaj and a trap beat?

Being influenced by the past has no bearing on whether the songs are fresh and original. That is precisely the difference between them and GVF. I also like Alabama Shakes, who are influenced by artists of Bill Haley's era, even though I don't listen to anything of that era. Judging music on what it's influenced by is just myopic and prejudicial. Hell, I don't even much care for Aerosmith and yet I love Guns.

I see little difference between Guns and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Tame Impala.

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That's a fairly arrogant and patronising approach to someone that says they find something boring.: " I can only assume you have never actually listened to them on quality speakers or headphones". You assume very wrong - I've heard them through the speakers of a top level recording studio. Still find them dull and boring.

You know, it's ok for people to have different opinions to you right, and find something you like boring? It doesn't make them wrong.

And it's fairly arrogant and patronizing to call them "elevator music". It's a practical response to assume you may have only heard them on computer speakers or something because that would produce low quality elevator tonality. Because otherwise, it would just be an asinine statement about an artist who goes to great lengths to create exquisite, hi-fi soundscapes. I guess I shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt...

Sure, and if somebody tells you Guns are a bunch of hair metal wankers you'd say "that's an insightful take, good sir"...


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: ITARocker on June 16, 2019, 03:44:05 AM
There's nothing wrong with "sounding like the golden era of music", if you want that no. There are probably people who want all their music to sound like Bill Haley and The Comets as they probably view that as "the golden era of music".  I'd rather something sound fresh and original, and like it was made in 2019. I see little difference between Greta Van Fleet and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Greta Van Fleet.


Again, literally all of the same things apply to Guns and you apparently like them. Or do you want the new album to "sound like it was made in 2019" and have no guitars, a verse by Nicki Minaj and a trap beat?

Being influenced by the past has no bearing on whether the songs are fresh and original. That is precisely the difference between them and GVF. I also like Alabama Shakes, who are influenced by artists of Bill Haley's era, even though I don't listen to anything of that era. Judging music on what it's influenced by is just myopic and prejudicial. Hell, I don't even much care for Aerosmith and yet I love Guns.

I see little difference between Guns and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Tame Impala.

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That's a fairly arrogant and patronising approach to someone that says they find something boring.: " I can only assume you have never actually listened to them on quality speakers or headphones". You assume very wrong - I've heard them through the speakers of a top level recording studio. Still find them dull and boring.

You know, it's ok for people to have different opinions to you right, and find something you like boring? It doesn't make them wrong.

And it's fairly arrogant and patronizing to call them "elevator music". It's a practical response to assume you may have only heard them on computer speakers or something because that would produce low quality elevator tonality. Because otherwise, it would just be an asinine statement about an artist who goes to great lengths to create exquisite, hi-fi soundscapes. I guess I shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt...

Sure, and if somebody tells you Guns are a bunch of hair metal wankers you'd say "that's an insightful take, good sir"...


I think we have to distinguish between all these bands.

First of all, What they said about guns in the past was  wrong ( i think they said that in order to diminish the breakout of the band). They didn't sound like another band, obviously they played a kind of music (hard rock) that they didn't invented. But they didn't sound like aerosmith, led zeppelin, rolling stones etc . They had their sound, which was a meltin pot of their personal musical influences. Axl rose had that nazareth lead singer style with a lyricism that was almost too much for a hard rock band. Slash was a kind of raw gary moore, not blues not metal not hard rock but oll of these put togheter. Duff was the guy who had the punk vibe. Izzy was the classic rock n roll rythm guitar who wrote songs in that style. Steven was..steven. They didn't sound like another band & that's one of the reasons they had the succes they had.

Greta Van Fleet are Led Zeppelin 2.0 (without the quality of led zep songs), nothin' more than that : singer sounds and acts like robert plant, lead guitar plays and moves like jimi page, riffs are cut & copy of any led zeppelin song, they even dress like they are in the seventies. I mean they won't last for long if they don't find their own sound/ style

Tame impala is all another thing again, for what i've listen to up to now, cause i didn't know the band. They surely lack originality in terms of  (60's) sound and style ,  but they don't sound like a particular band,  u can hear "influences" here and there but that's it.

Surely i can appreciate tame impala more than gvf


Title: Re: Guns N' Roses at Austin City Limits Music Festival in October 2019
Post by: allwaystired on June 16, 2019, 07:28:46 AM
There's nothing wrong with "sounding like the golden era of music", if you want that no. There are probably people who want all their music to sound like Bill Haley and The Comets as they probably view that as "the golden era of music".  I'd rather something sound fresh and original, and like it was made in 2019. I see little difference between Greta Van Fleet and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Greta Van Fleet.


Again, literally all of the same things apply to Guns and you apparently like them. Or do you want the new album to "sound like it was made in 2019" and have no guitars, a verse by Nicki Minaj and a trap beat?

Being influenced by the past has no bearing on whether the songs are fresh and original. That is precisely the difference between them and GVF. I also like Alabama Shakes, who are influenced by artists of Bill Haley's era, even though I don't listen to anything of that era. Judging music on what it's influenced by is just myopic and prejudicial. Hell, I don't even much care for Aerosmith and yet I love Guns.

I see little difference between Guns and Tame Impala really - they're both new bands trying to imitate the past. Only difference is that you don't like Tame Impala.

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That's a fairly arrogant and patronising approach to someone that says they find something boring.: " I can only assume you have never actually listened to them on quality speakers or headphones". You assume very wrong - I've heard them through the speakers of a top level recording studio. Still find them dull and boring.

You know, it's ok for people to have different opinions to you right, and find something you like boring? It doesn't make them wrong.

And it's fairly arrogant and patronizing to call them "elevator music". It's a practical response to assume you may have only heard them on computer speakers or something because that would produce low quality elevator tonality. Because otherwise, it would just be an asinine statement about an artist who goes to great lengths to create exquisite, hi-fi soundscapes. I guess I shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt...

Sure, and if somebody tells you Guns are a bunch of hair metal wankers you'd say "that's an insightful take, good sir"...

It's called 'differing opinions' - something you seem to have a very big problem with. Tame Impala sound like elevator music to me - to you obviously not. That's absolutely fine.

"It would just be an asinine statement about an artist who goes to great lengths to create exquisite, hi-fi soundscapes" - yeah in YOUR VIEW. Again, that's fine, but you really do need to accept that there are people out there who find Tame Impala boring. They're not wrong, or right. They just find them boring. People like different things you know?

As for the GNR thing- yeah I'm hoping they do push their sound on, obviously. I don't want to hear Appetite part 2. Chinese Democracy pushed them on massively, and doesn't sound like anything else. I hope they can do something again.