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Quote from: Shadows7X on April 09, 2008, 12:04:08 AM
Quote from: Timothy08 on April 09, 2008, 12:00:59 AM
most unoriginal ...nah, that would be a7x
haha please....every a7X album actually does sound different and they take artistic risks all the time...not to mention the Syn Gates has more guitar playing ability in his pinky than Reznor has in his whole body...
I really don't see what the hype is about with the 'great' Synyster Gates: no deeper understanding of dynamics or melodic structure, no complex or original harmonic or rhythmic ideas, no earth shattering concepts like octave displacements, tri-tones or exotic interval selections. Average technique: very low effort to effect ratio, no speed unless he can compromise (very much) on articulation, pretty limited spectrum of chops.
He?s the epitome of a bad pattern/position player, of which for instance a guy like "our" Ron is the exact diametric opposite. A player who thinks in rigid musical concepts, borrowed from various styles of music/playing. He then just crams them into the music to make it seem like he?s versatile. It has more to do with building muscle memory than gaining musical insight. Instead of really adapting a style of playing and then exploring the edges of it, applying it more authentically. When you score as high like that on the wank-o-meter, you really aren?t the stuff what monster players are made of. It?s like striving to be a writer by learning the dictionary by hard, just makes no sense without the deeper understanding of it all. Pretty shallow. I?m sure he can do some fancy tricks Trent can?t, but tricks are for the circus. I rather hear some more modest low key playing when it's played with musical backbone, than fancy noodling coming from a wannabe-virtuoso who in essence doesn't know what he's doing.
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Quote from: Shadows7X on April 08, 2008, 11:57:44 PM
Quote from: GnFnR87 on April 08, 2008, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: Shadows7X on April 08, 2008, 11:31:51 PM
my question is why did they have to bring Robin Finck back in the band? I think they have done a great job of writing, recording and releasing the EXACT same album over and over again since 1994 with or without him...
what the hell are u talking about? besides the fact that Robin had nothing to do with any of their main studio albums (hes on a couple remix albums), since Trent Reznor plays pretty much all the instruments on these records, every album has been COMPLETELY different.
you missed the joke...im saying NIN is the most unoriginal band I have ever heard in my life...every record sounds exactly the same..they never switch things up or take any artistic risks....so why would they NEED RObin Finck if all they do is keep putting out "The Fragile" but call it "With Teeth" or "year zero"
Ignorant. No other word can describe you. Listening to shitty music damaged your brain.
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Re: Nine Inch Nails
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Quote from: maynard on April 09, 2008, 12:21:00 PM
Quote from: Shadows7X on April 08, 2008, 11:57:44 PM
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Quote from: Shadows7X on April 08, 2008, 11:31:51 PM
my question is why did they have to bring Robin Finck back in the band? I think they have done a great job of writing, recording and releasing the EXACT same album over and over again since 1994 with or without him...
what the hell are u talking about? besides the fact that Robin had nothing to do with any of their main studio albums (hes on a couple remix albums), since Trent Reznor plays pretty much all the instruments on these records, every album has been COMPLETELY different.
you missed the joke...im saying NIN is the most unoriginal band I have ever heard in my life...every record sounds exactly the same..they never switch things up or take any artistic risks....so why would they NEED RObin Finck if all they do is keep putting out "The Fragile" but call it "With Teeth" or "year zero"
Ignorant. No other word can describe you. Listening to shitty music damaged your brain.
haha "maynard"...speaking of bands whos songs all sound exactly the same...nine inch nails I am at least a fan of and will probably see them on this tour....meanwhile you couldnt PAY me to go see Tool....god awful....words can not describe how piss poor that psuedo 90's radio metal is....
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Somehow I doubt Tool would even want a fan of a shitty Emo/Nu-Metal band like Avenged Sevenfold at their show
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maynard is right.
"you missed the joke...im saying NIN is the most unoriginal band I have ever heard in my life...every record sounds exactly the same..they never switch things up or take any artistic risks....so why would they NEED RObin Finck if all they do is keep putting out "The Fragile" but call it "With Teeth" or "year zero""
This quote above is the dumbest douchiest thing I have heard in a long time. Its as ignorant as it is moronic. Jump off a tall building asap.
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Quote from: Buddha_Master on April 09, 2008, 05:45:13 PM
maynard is right.
"you missed the joke...im saying NIN is the most unoriginal band I have ever heard in my life...every record sounds exactly the same..they never switch things up or take any artistic risks....so why would they NEED RObin Finck if all they do is keep putting out "The Fragile" but call it "With Teeth" or "year zero""
This quote above is the dumbest douchiest thing I have heard in a long time. Its as ignorant as it is moronic. Jump off a tall building asap.
so youre 33 and telling people to jump off of tall buildings because you disagree with their opinion on music?
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 09, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
Somehow I doubt Tool would even want a fan of a shitty Emo/Nu-Metal band like Avenged Sevenfold at their show
haha please...my top 3 bands, GNR, Metallica and Megadeth piss all over anything Tool has ever done....
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Uh..Metallica haven't had a decent album since what, 1991?
Tool is composed of 4 of the most highly regarded and respected musicians out there today.
Are you highly regarded?
Maybe by Senator Larry Craig..
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Quote from: Shadows7X on April 10, 2008, 03:24:52 AM
so youre 33 and telling people to jump off of tall buildings because you disagree with their opinion on music?
I'd tell you just for being you.
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Oh please guys, can't you see hes a troll.
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 10, 2008, 10:47:02 AM
Are you highly regarded?
Maybe by Senator Larry Craig..
I hate when people say things like this. It doesn't take talent to judge talent.
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 10, 2008, 10:47:02 AM
Uh..Metallica haven't had a decent album since what, 1991?
Tool is composed of 4 of the most highly regarded and respected musicians out there today.
Are you highly regarded?
Maybe by Senator Larry Craig..
In your opinion. I personally fall asleep to Tools music.
Statements like this are opinion, dont speak as if it is fact.
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Go read a review for one of Tool's albums, or for one of their shows
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 10, 2008, 04:36:51 PM
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So... what do you guys expect for this new tour?
I am hoping for more Fragile stuff, more instrumentals and a more electronic sound than last tours that were very guitar/bass/drum oriented. Trent will be 43 in May but him and his voice look in good shape to keep the heavy songs on the setlist.
The new guy Rich is very energetic, looks a lot like Aaron, I'm sure he will bring good things to the band.
So a dream (realistic) setlist for fun:
1. Hyperpower
2. Last
3. Somewhat Damaged
4. Heresy
5. Eraser
6. La Mer
7. The Great Below
8. And all that could have been
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Instrumental jam consisting of Ghosts themes and songs from the past, including Leaving Hope
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10. The Becoming (still version)
11. Just like you imagined
12. The line begins to blur
13. Right where it belongs
14. In This Twilight
15. Happiness in Slavery (Robin screams!)
No Closer, No Hurt, No Head like a hole. Happiness in Slavery and And all that could have been are unlikely, but can happen, can't say the same about The Perfect Drug though.
Maybe Trent will release some soundboard recordings, something he already said he wanted to do as soon as he was label-free.
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Quote from: mrlee on April 10, 2008, 04:47:10 PM
Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 10, 2008, 04:36:51 PM
No, it's not just
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Go read a review for one of Tool's albums, or for one of their shows
Reviews dont mean shit though. Alot of bands get over hyped.
Well... Yes and no. Through mainstream media outlets, you're spot on. I tend to go on Amazon reviews myself.
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Quote from: SLCPUNK on April 10, 2008, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: Shadows7X on April 10, 2008, 03:24:52 AM
so youre 33 and telling people to jump off of tall buildings because you disagree with their opinion on music?
I'd tell you just for being you.
thanks buddy..
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 10, 2008, 04:36:51 PM
No, it's not just
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Go read a review for one of Tool's albums, or for one of their shows
Reviews dont mean shit though. Alot of bands get over hyped.
Well... Yes and no. Through mainstream media outlets, you're spot on.
I tend to go on Amazon reviews myself.
... Seriously!
They can sometimes be good but some times the reviews are absolutely mad. Someone said Back To Mystery City was the worst Hanoi Rocks album on there....(i personally think its the best)
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Quote from: Buddha_Master on April 09, 2008, 05:45:13 PM
maynard is right.
"you missed the joke...im saying NIN is the most unoriginal band I have ever heard in my life...every record sounds exactly the same..they never switch things up or take any artistic risks....so why would they NEED RObin Finck if all they do is keep putting out "The Fragile" but call it "With Teeth" or "year zero""
This quote above is the dumbest douchiest thing I have heard in a long time.
You obviously haven't read his posts in the politics thread
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April 11, 2008, 10:24:40 AM »
Very impressive fan made video of In this twilight.
Whoever put this up has managed to combine scenes from several different (mostly crappy) apocalyptic flicks into one very functional unity. It's powerfull stuff and syncs very well with the lyrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMaEF0mGrvA
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