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« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2008, 03:27:31 PM »

this is on kerrangs site....Im not buying it yet because being close friends with axl idk if hed do it....but for what its worth.


"Sources close to the band have indicated that former Skid Row frontman - and close personal friend of Axl Rose - Sebastian Bach looks set to front the band, although nothing has been officially confirmed."



http://www2.kerrang.com/2008/04/its_official_weiland_is_out_of.html

maybe this is that "life changing phone call" that Baz got 2 weeks ago..




This would make things very, very interesting
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« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2008, 03:34:13 PM »

Who really cares who's fault it was (although I would bet on Scott seeing as how he seems like a prick/head case).  I'm just glad that Slash and the guys seem ready to move on with somebody else.  I didn't mind Weiland in STP, but he never fit with VR.  The whole sebastian bach thing is interesting to think about, but I don't see it happening.  I mean Slash seemed pretty against it 5 years ago, why would he change his mind?  I still think the guy for the job is Hal Ozsan.  You probably don't know who he is but follow the link below and see what you think of his singing/songwriting abilities, the whole cd was good old rock n roll!  (oh and he recently quit his band for reasons that are unclear, so he'd be available)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvukow22eQM         
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« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2008, 03:39:49 PM »

Oh and here's another of Hal Ozsan's songs that he wrote. See what you think. Oh and trivia tidbit, the band he was in (Poets and Pornstars) won the KROQ radio contest which meant they opened Inland Invasion when GNR headlined in 06

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« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2008, 03:54:28 PM »

finally this idiot left slash and duff alone.....

i don`t care who?s fault it is. imo scott`s an asshole. he lost any respect i ever had for him, after his ridiculous comment towards axl in 2005....

i saw velvet revolver live at rock am ring in 2007 by the way. i almost had to cringe, watching weiland doing his gay dance on stage with his floodwater pants.....people were sitting down etc.   not really a situation i wanted slash to be a part of...


however, scott`s statement seems to be basically truthful. i`m not too sure what kind of light this entire break up casts on
slash`s reliability regarding the gnr break up...
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« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2008, 03:54:36 PM »

this is on kerrangs site....Im not buying it yet because being close friends with axl idk if hed do it....but for what its worth.


"Sources close to the band have indicated that former Skid Row frontman - and close personal friend of Axl Rose - Sebastian Bach looks set to front the band, although nothing has been officially confirmed."



http://www2.kerrang.com/2008/04/its_official_weiland_is_out_of.html

maybe this is that "life changing phone call" that Baz got 2 weeks ago..




This would make things very, very interesting

melodicrock also says Baz is one person they are looking at as well as someone else...
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« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2008, 03:55:26 PM »

Who really cares who's fault it was (although I would bet on Scott seeing as how he seems like a prick/head case).  I'm just glad that Slash and the guys seem ready to move on with somebody else.  I didn't mind Weiland in STP, but he never fit with VR.  The whole sebastian bach thing is interesting to think about, but I don't see it happening.  I mean Slash seemed pretty against it 5 years ago, why would he change his mind?  I still think the guy for the job is Hal Ozsan.  You probably don't know who he is but follow the link below and see what you think of his singing/songwriting abilities, the whole cd was good old rock n roll!  (oh and he recently quit his band for reasons that are unclear, so he'd be available)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvukow22eQM         

Given how much time Sebastian has spent with Axl and GnR once the friendship was rekindled, I can't imagine him falling back in with VR unless he in some way had Axl's blessing.  It would just be a class-less move.  Like you say, though, I doubt the interest is there from either side at this point.  I'm happy to enjoy "Angel Down," and wish Bach the best on his rejuvenated solo career.

And considering these troubles in the VR camp have been brewing for some time now - alluded to in the A.F.D. Anniversary issue of Rolling Stone - it wouldn't surprise me if the VR people already know who they're going to next.  I can't say I'll be following the band with much interest, regardless of who is handling vocals.  Scott always seemed an odd fit for me, and I'll be glad to see him back with STP.
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« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2008, 04:05:14 PM »

finally this idiot left slash and duff alone.....

i don`t care who?s fault it is. imo scott`s an asshole. he lost any respect i ever had for him, after his ridiculous comment towards axl in 2005....

i saw velvet revolver live at rock am ring in 2007 by the way. i almost had to cringe, watching weiland doing his gay dance on stage with his floodwater pants.....people were sitting down etc.   not really a situation i wanted slash to be a part of...


however, scott`s statement seems to be basically truthful. i`m not too sure what kind of light this entire break up casts on
slash`s reliability regarding the gnr break up...

I woulnd't bring "slash's reliabilty regarding the gnr break up.." into this.  For one this is coming from Scott Weiland who isn't the most credible/sane person out there. Secondly, what ended up happening with pretty much everyone involved with GNR seems to speak for itself.  No point in bringing that crap up again...
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« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2008, 04:21:14 PM »

In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth.

That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point  Roll Eyes
Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's.

Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault.  According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault.  I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement.  Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober.  Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac.  He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes.  He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation.  I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one.  VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise.  Oh well.  But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave.  To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes
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« Reply #88 on: April 02, 2008, 04:27:52 PM »

In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth.

That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point  Roll Eyes
Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's.

Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault.  According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault.  I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement.  Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober.  Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac.  The guy has shown time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes.  He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation.  I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one.  VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise.  Oh well.  But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave.  To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes

Or just bad judgement in who he picks to be in a band with him.  Doesn't necessarily mean he's the one that causes the problems. As much as I love Axl, I wouldn't call him and Scott Weiland the most stable frontmen.  My philosophy is that Slash likes that sort of danger in his lead singers, but in the end the postivite that comes from that seems to be outweighed by the negative aspects that come from that type of person.  Atleast that's one way of looking at it..
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« Reply #89 on: April 02, 2008, 04:33:25 PM »

In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth.

That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point  Roll Eyes
Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's.

Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault.  According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault.  I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement.  Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober.  Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac.  He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes.  He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation.  I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one.  VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise.  Oh well.  But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave.  To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes

but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in
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« Reply #90 on: April 02, 2008, 04:42:03 PM »

In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth.

That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point  Roll Eyes
Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's.

Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault.  According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault.  I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement.  Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober.  Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac.  The guy has shown time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes.  He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation.  I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one.  VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise.  Oh well.  But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave.  To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes

Or just bad judgement in who he picks to be in a band with him.  Doesn't necessarily mean he's the one that causes the problems. As much as I love Axl, I wouldn't call him and Scott Weiland the most stable frontmen.  My philosophy is that Slash likes that sort of danger in his lead singers, but in the end the postivite that comes from that seems to be outweighed by the negative aspects that come from that type of person.  Atleast that's one way of looking at it..

Or it could be that he displays many traits of a textbook narcissist.  Slash has a very carefully crafted public persona where he always tries to come off as cool, that doesn't mean that's the way he is behind the scenes.  He was caught in his web of lies repeatedly after Axl's press release, and is quick to pass the blame to everyone else.  Because he has to maintain his image
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« Reply #91 on: April 02, 2008, 04:48:37 PM »

but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in
save that no one of the latter had to write a statement like this and seems to have no bad blood except the vr peeps.
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« Reply #92 on: April 02, 2008, 04:56:22 PM »

In response to Slash's comment regarding my commitment, I have to say it is a blatant and tired excuse to cover up the truth.

That's both Scott and Axl that have called Slash a liar at some point  Roll Eyes
Drugs, Ego's, too much booze, creates and destroy's.

Well, Slash quit GnR and that didn't go well, then his two bands after that have melted down and it's always been 100% someone else's fault.  According to Slash it was Axl's fault that he left GnR, it was Rod Jackson's fault that Snakepit imploded, and now for sure it will be in his mind Weiland's fault and only Weiland's fault.  I mean it wasn't until last year when he actually admitted that he himself might have played a minor role in the demise of the AFD/UYI lineup, and even then it was a half-hearted statement.  Like he blamed Axl for Izzy leaving the band yet failed to take any responsibility for constantly getting high as a kite and/or shitfaced drunk around Izzy while he was trying to stay sober.  Just because he comes off as a cool, laid back guy who is cool to kick back and drink beers with doesn't mean that he's not an egomaniac.  He has proven time and again to be a compulsive liar who changes his tune like he changes clothes.  He doesn't come off as an outwardly insecure prick like Weiland and Matt do, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a major role in this situation.  I'm sure they all played a big role in this situation, it was obvious this would happen from day one.  VR was a corporate gig where they selected the lead singer who would sell the most records in the short term, not who was the best long-term fit musically or personality wise.  Oh well.  But the only people who probably weren't major players in this situation were Duff and Dave.  To try to absolve Slash is to ignore history, the guy has been involved in too many volatile falling-outs for anyone to believe he's just an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in bands with assholes

but then that applies to axl too, if you wanna say people left bands that slash was in, just as many left bands that axl was in

Except Axl has nothing to do with this at all. Stop trying to make it about him.
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« Reply #93 on: April 02, 2008, 04:57:31 PM »

I don't think Baz is a true possibility, but seems like the speculation began way before all the shit in Glasgow:

VELVET REVOLVER BREAKING UP?

Confunsing news has been floating around these days surrounding the band. On www.rock-star.es, we were told by our US reporter, Michael Wainwright, that Slash and Duff McKagan have been in talking to some singers, with rumors about Paul Black from LA Guns and Perry Farrel from Jane's Addiction among other singers who would be able to audition to joing Velvet Revolver to replace Scott Weiland, whose situation in the band looks like very damaged.

http://www.rock-star.es/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=174&Itemid=43
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« Reply #94 on: April 02, 2008, 05:03:14 PM »

I don't think baz is willing to be the next odd man out.
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« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2008, 05:24:26 PM »

I don't think baz is willing to be the next odd man out.

Agree with you there, I don't think he'd want to touch this project with a barge pole.

Although, I remain unconvinced that VR will continue anyway.  I think it's obvious from what has happened over the past week that there was an ongoing power struggle between Scott and Slash, and that the press release mentioning that it wasn't necessarily the end of the band was Slash's method of making public his authority over the future of the band.  I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get on with solo stuff for a while and the band is allowed to fade away quietly - after a live album is released to complete the contractual obligations.  The only thing that I can see that may sway this decision is if there were some kind of financial incentive offered to them to remain together.

This is only my opinion though and as the waters appear to be getting murkier by the day with each new comment by band members, it's getting more difficult to discern fact from fiction.
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« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2008, 05:33:11 PM »

Given how much time Sebastian has spent with Axl and GnR once the friendship was rekindled, I can't imagine him falling back in with VR unless he in some way had Axl's blessing.  It would just be a class-less move.  Like you say, though, I doubt the interest is there from either side at this point.  I'm happy to enjoy "Angel Down," and wish Bach the best on his rejuvenated solo career.

True. But at the end of the day.... for all we know Axl wouldn't want to stand in the way of his good friend (Baz) getting a decent opportunity like fronting VR. I wouldn't be completely shocked if he gave his blessing. Having a "pro-Axl" guy fronting VR actually suits Axl's interests when you think about it... better to have the guy fronting the band made up of "old Guns N' Roses" speaking kindly of you as opposed to Weiland's bitching and moaning...

Where I think Baz to VR starts to run into trouble is with the record execs/band mgmt. etc. They may want a guy who brings more of a "90's fanbase" to the fold like Weiland did...
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Well first of all I doubt Slash gives a fuck about what his "image" is.  I mean for over 20 years it seems that's the way he's been and the only thing he takes seriously is making music and touring.  Meaning that he could give a fuck about the rest of it.

If you'd told me this in the early 1990s, I'd have agreed with you without a shadow of doubt, but today it's a very different story.  I think that Slash is extremely aware of his image in the media and knows that the perception that he doesn't care about his image is, in fact, one of his most powerful selling tools.  In almost every interview you read about this supposed lack of image consciousness, but I'm sure that the journalists who've been around a while don't actually buy into it, regardless of what is printed in their magazine, and I certainly don't believe it anymore.

If you're looking for someone who genuinely doesn't care about image, I suggest you look towards Mr Stradlin.


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« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2008, 05:39:17 PM »

yep cyllan, any of slash's past projects lasted more than a couple of albums?

Well first of all I doubt Slash gives a fuck about what his "image" is.  I mean for over 20 years it seems that's the way he's been and the only thing he takes seriously is making music and touring.  Meaning that he could give a fuck about the rest of it. 

his close friend says otherwise.  ok

"I have asked Slash to do that and to stop saying things to the press about axl. I think the reason Slash won't do that is because in his mind he won't look Cool. With Slash everything has to be so cool. "
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« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2008, 06:00:02 PM »

Slash already commented that Baz made VR sound like Skid Roses, personally I'd love to hear "Skid Roses" cos Baz is a great vocalist and his voice really suits the old GnR sound. He's proven this on his performances with Axl. Anyway I don't see the guys asking him to join after already rejecting him but I agree with Scott, whether he was being sarcastic or not, that he would be a fantastic choice!! Anyway the name Velvet Revolver should just die now. I know its become Slash and Duff's new brand name but VR was Scott, Slash, Duff, Matt & Dave. Bring back Steve and Izzy!!!!!!!!!!
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