Where do we go now

[D-GenerationX]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

Does anyone give you flack for that though?  Or is it for jumping down everyone's throat?

What's more productive, you tell me :  A conversation with different viewpoints...or an argument put forth that's answered with "hey, go fuck yourself" and insinuations you should leave?

Where does that really go?  Kind of a conversational dead end, no?

[TheBaconman]

Oh I know there is more than one person here that doesnt like you nor your negative trolling and complaining.

There's people I disagree with.  And people that disagree with me, some, strenuously.  No question about it.

We still have conversations, however. 

Look at a guy like pilferk.  We never agree, on anything.  We talk all the time, with no worries.

Then...then, there's you.  Not just you and me, but you and EVERYBODY.

I'm not sure we have to call in Colombo to crack this one.  We can all read.  We all know the deal.

TheBaconman gets along just fine with Emily.  So please don't speak for everyone    She is a very good balance to the constant jarmo reaction posts that's this place used to be

It is much better these days however. 

[D-GenerationX]

I think things have been good here for a while now.

[TheBaconman]

I think things have been good here for a while now.

It would also be very quiet around here, as well.   If some of us didn't post every day and try and get some sorts conversations going.   So "just like Oasis, we should find a way to get along".

Hahahahahaha.  I actually hate when people use Axl/music quotes.  But I really like that one

[mortismurphy]

GN?R being in need of more downtime is a pretty hilarious concept.
The torrid pace of one album in 24 years must be exhausting.

This kind of assumption seems to be based on the thinking that being in a band just involves recording, interviews and shows.
But it doesn't.


/jarmo

It basically, is. If you are including mixing and mastering under 'recording' and perhaps include (filming) music videos or chuck all media work under the catch-all title, 'promotion', those are the central purposes of actually being a signed act. You are allowed gaps in the middle of course but If you are not hitting all those three, there is something usually wrong. If you have ditched the recording and promotion of an album, you have probably relinquished your creativity to become a cheese old-timer act. If you are concentrating on only recording, well The Beatles did this when they were fed up with Beatlemania. The point is, there is usually something wrong.

- Recording
- Promotion
- Touring

You might include business I suppose with someone like Jagger who takes a very hands on approach to the financial side of things, however most delegate this task to accountants.

For Axl, I assume you must include quite a lot of time for legal work. I'm not only thinking of lawsuits, but I think he's very much involved in taking care of the brand name 'Guns N' Roses'. Song licensing for instance.

I would assume so since the guy has sued just about everybody, or been sued himself. From former girlfriends, to band mates and a video games company of all things, Axl and litigation are forever entwined. Axl probably tried to sue himself in a fit of rage before realising it was near impossible.

Nice attempt at inventing more lies and false narratives.

"Everybody" has certainly not been sued or engaged in legalities.

Humour is not one of your finer points I see?

Au contraire, I find it hilarious when you get caught in a lie and try to pass it off as "humor".

Did you seriously think I was making a strictly indicative statement, falsified or otherwise, when I stated that Axl has been involved in litigation with all 7 billion people? Oh dear, irony relapse.

[EmilyGNR]

GN?R being in need of more downtime is a pretty hilarious concept.
The torrid pace of one album in 24 years must be exhausting.

This kind of assumption seems to be based on the thinking that being in a band just involves recording, interviews and shows.
But it doesn't.


/jarmo

It basically, is. If you are including mixing and mastering under 'recording' and perhaps include (filming) music videos or chuck all media work under the catch-all title, 'promotion', those are the central purposes of actually being a signed act. You are allowed gaps in the middle of course but If you are not hitting all those three, there is something usually wrong. If you have ditched the recording and promotion of an album, you have probably relinquished your creativity to become a cheese old-timer act. If you are concentrating on only recording, well The Beatles did this when they were fed up with Beatlemania. The point is, there is usually something wrong.

- Recording
- Promotion
- Touring

You might include business I suppose with someone like Jagger who takes a very hands on approach to the financial side of things, however most delegate this task to accountants.

For Axl, I assume you must include quite a lot of time for legal work. I'm not only thinking of lawsuits, but I think he's very much involved in taking care of the brand name 'Guns N' Roses'. Song licensing for instance.

I would assume so since the guy has sued just about everybody, or been sued himself. From former girlfriends, to band mates and a video games company of all things, Axl and litigation are forever entwined. Axl probably tried to sue himself in a fit of rage before realising it was near impossible.

Nice attempt at inventing more lies and false narratives.

"Everybody" has certainly not been sued or engaged in legalities.

Humour is not one of your finer points I see?

Au contraire, I find it hilarious when you get caught in a lie and try to pass it off as "humor".

Did you seriously think I was making a strictly indicative statement, falsified or otherwise, when I stated that Axl has been involved in litigation with all 7 billion people? Oh dear, irony relapse.

What I seriously think is you make these sweeping, incorrect statements and try any means of squirming to save face and get out of it when someone confronts you.

[EmilyGNR]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

Does anyone give you flack for that though?  Or is it for jumping down everyone's throat?

What's more productive, you tell me :  A conversation with different viewpoints...or an argument put forth that's answered with "hey, go fuck yourself" and insinuations you should leave?

Where does that really go?  Kind of a conversational dead end, no?

I care less about engaging in conversation with some people, than I do about posting facts and posting the truth about matters and situations.

I'm also not trying to convert anyone.

"The truth is the truth hurts"

[EmilyGNR]

Oh I know there is more than one person here that doesnt like you nor your negative trolling and complaining.

There's people I disagree with.  And people that disagree with me, some, strenuously.  No question about it.

We still have conversations, however. 

Look at a guy like pilferk.  We never agree, on anything.  We talk all the time, with no worries.

Then...then, there's you.  Not just you and me, but you and EVERYBODY.

I'm not sure we have to call in Colombo to crack this one.  We can all read.  We all know the deal.

TheBaconman gets along just fine with Emily.  So please don't speak for everyone    She is a very good balance to the constant jarmo reaction posts that's this place used to be

It is much better these days however. 

The baconman is one of my favorite posters here, no agenda and a very nice person to chat with. 

[jarmo]

This is SERIOUS BUSINESS, this rock band stuff.

And you know how the serious business works....

 




/jarmo

[mortismurphy]

GN?R being in need of more downtime is a pretty hilarious concept.
The torrid pace of one album in 24 years must be exhausting.

This kind of assumption seems to be based on the thinking that being in a band just involves recording, interviews and shows.
But it doesn't.


/jarmo

It basically, is. If you are including mixing and mastering under 'recording' and perhaps include (filming) music videos or chuck all media work under the catch-all title, 'promotion', those are the central purposes of actually being a signed act. You are allowed gaps in the middle of course but If you are not hitting all those three, there is something usually wrong. If you have ditched the recording and promotion of an album, you have probably relinquished your creativity to become a cheese old-timer act. If you are concentrating on only recording, well The Beatles did this when they were fed up with Beatlemania. The point is, there is usually something wrong.

- Recording
- Promotion
- Touring

You might include business I suppose with someone like Jagger who takes a very hands on approach to the financial side of things, however most delegate this task to accountants.

For Axl, I assume you must include quite a lot of time for legal work. I'm not only thinking of lawsuits, but I think he's very much involved in taking care of the brand name 'Guns N' Roses'. Song licensing for instance.

I would assume so since the guy has sued just about everybody, or been sued himself. From former girlfriends, to band mates and a video games company of all things, Axl and litigation are forever entwined. Axl probably tried to sue himself in a fit of rage before realising it was near impossible.

Nice attempt at inventing more lies and false narratives.

"Everybody" has certainly not been sued or engaged in legalities.

Humour is not one of your finer points I see?

Au contraire, I find it hilarious when you get caught in a lie and try to pass it off as "humor".

Did you seriously think I was making a strictly indicative statement, falsified or otherwise, when I stated that Axl has been involved in litigation with all 7 billion people? Oh dear, irony relapse.

What I seriously think is you make these sweeping, incorrect statements and try any means of squirming to save face and get out of it when someone confronts you.

Damn, I was so factually incorrect in believing that Axl had sued the world's entire population, all 7 billion of them. Thank you for correcting me.

[FunkyMonkey]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

You don't catch flack for being pro GN'R.  You catch flack for telling people what kind of fans they should be.  Calling them entitled and whiners and that's just a start.

 

[draguns]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

You don't catch flack for being pro GN'R.  You catch flack for telling people what kind of fans they should be.  Calling them entitled and whiners and that's just a start.

 

I have to agree. Also we are all "pro GNR" here. I know for me, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't an Axl fan. I don't have the time to go on a website for something I don't like. I'm sure others are the same way.  You don't have to always agree with Axl in order to be a fan. I think this is where the confusion comes into play.

[EmilyGNR]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

You don't catch flack for being pro GN'R.  You catch flack for telling people what kind of fans they should be.  Calling them entitled and whiners and that's just a start.

 

I call them as I see them , if someone is whining and complaining about GNR or has entitlement issues I don't mind calling a spade a spade.

Not planning on stopping either.

[EmilyGNR]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

You don't catch flack for being pro GN'R.  You catch flack for telling people what kind of fans they should be.  Calling them entitled and whiners and that's just a start.

 

I have to agree. Also we are all "pro GNR" here. I know for me, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't an Axl fan. I don't have the time to go on a website for something I don't like. I'm sure others are the same way.  You don't have to always agree with Axl in order to be a fan. I think this is where the confusion comes into play.

There is no confusion for me, I see the same little group of people complaining, whining and offering up unsolicited amateur advice.

I am expressing my honest opinions, and I'm not considering changing in order to please others or impress anonymous online people.

[EmilyGNR]

GN?R being in need of more downtime is a pretty hilarious concept.
The torrid pace of one album in 24 years must be exhausting.

This kind of assumption seems to be based on the thinking that being in a band just involves recording, interviews and shows.
But it doesn't.


/jarmo

It basically, is. If you are including mixing and mastering under 'recording' and perhaps include (filming) music videos or chuck all media work under the catch-all title, 'promotion', those are the central purposes of actually being a signed act. You are allowed gaps in the middle of course but If you are not hitting all those three, there is something usually wrong. If you have ditched the recording and promotion of an album, you have probably relinquished your creativity to become a cheese old-timer act. If you are concentrating on only recording, well The Beatles did this when they were fed up with Beatlemania. The point is, there is usually something wrong.

- Recording
- Promotion
- Touring

You might include business I suppose with someone like Jagger who takes a very hands on approach to the financial side of things, however most delegate this task to accountants.

For Axl, I assume you must include quite a lot of time for legal work. I'm not only thinking of lawsuits, but I think he's very much involved in taking care of the brand name 'Guns N' Roses'. Song licensing for instance.

I would assume so since the guy has sued just about everybody, or been sued himself. From former girlfriends, to band mates and a video games company of all things, Axl and litigation are forever entwined. Axl probably tried to sue himself in a fit of rage before realising it was near impossible.

Nice attempt at inventing more lies and false narratives.

"Everybody" has certainly not been sued or engaged in legalities.

Humour is not one of your finer points I see?

Au contraire, I find it hilarious when you get caught in a lie and try to pass it off as "humor".

Did you seriously think I was making a strictly indicative statement, falsified or otherwise, when I stated that Axl has been involved in litigation with all 7 billion people? Oh dear, irony relapse.

What I seriously think is you make these sweeping, incorrect statements and try any means of squirming to save face and get out of it when someone confronts you.

Damn, I was so factually incorrect in believing that Axl had sued the world's entire population, all 7 billion of them. Thank you for correcting me.

Oh look, another attempt at comedy. 

[FunkyMonkey]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

You don't catch flack for being pro GN'R.  You catch flack for telling people what kind of fans they should be.  Calling them entitled and whiners and that's just a start.

I call them as I see them , if someone is whining and complaining about GNR or has entitlement issues I don't mind calling a spade a spade.

As you see them.  Who comes to a fan site and berates people in every other post.

Not planning on stopping either.

I guess we all have that to look forward to.

[JAEBALL]

If I catch flack for being pro GNR, so be it, I dont care and won't be flip flopping on that.

You don't catch flack for being pro GN'R.  You catch flack for telling people what kind of fans they should be.  Calling them entitled and whiners and that's just a start.

I call them as I see them , if someone is whining and complaining about GNR or has entitlement issues I don't mind calling a spade a spade.

As you see them.  Who comes to a fan site and berates people in every other post.

Not planning on stopping either.

I guess we all have that to look forward to.

My sentiments exactly