Do you think the ex members get frustrated..?

[madagas]

 Norway, movin along with Gnr-if that is what you want to call one song in 14 years-is not confidence but insecurity-fear of striking out on his own. Having the Gnr brand name brings oodles of money and opportunities not afforded to solo artists. Simple as that. Axl is a good businessman however! Roger Waters found out the hard way why it is important to keep the brand name. I think our faired haired child learned something from Waters/Floyd and that is why he played hardball with Slash/Duff back when the ship began to sink (essentially the departure of Izzy).?

[norway]

hmm, yeah it is a very commercial and financial side that comes with the name,
but gunsnroses was something axl rose lived by before slash, duff etc was involved...?

he said he wants 2 be fully confident in the material and my guess is the long wait is that he wasn't ... yet? 
but accordin 2 tommy it seem they all are now? finally?
and i think it shows some confidence 2 play rio, europe, asia etc and continue gunsnroses... glad they did?

That re-recorded version was good, thanks norway, but the original is better, in my opinion

  Izzy?

hey, can't beat the original?

[younggunner]

Is there any documentation of Desmond Child's involvement?

Nope

And Im pretty sure DC or his management shot down that rumorboard rumor.

[madagas]

God I hope so.... Norway, I do see your point. Again, the man is a walking contradiction. He is cocksure and confident on one hand-paranoid and insecure on the other. Most talented people are like this however Axl is a little more fractured than most.

[norway]

Most talented people are like this however Axl is a little more fractured than most.

lol, sounds good 2 me, but dunno what fractured is, but yeah nice?
some songs seems 2 come from such a (lottery here  ) fractured place...

[madagas]

Damaged emotionally-childhood issues, anger, shock of becoming too rich too soon, etc. Axl has alot of baggage emotionally. However, he seemed more content with himself on the 2002 tour-seemed frankly more happy. Probably why he is not the angry psychotic rocker he was during the AFD era and the beginning of the Illusion tour. After Axl had therapy, I think his whole personality and demeanor changed. He will never be the angry sociopath that he was during the AFD era. Thus, you will never get RAWK like that from him again.

[ppbebe]

so many say?but to me he doesn't seem to be that complicated. 

Well, since I'm not close to him, there may be great differences between what I heard and what I see.?

[norway]

Damaged emotionally-childhood issues, anger, shock of becoming too rich too soon, etc. Axl has alot of baggage emotionally. However, he seemed more content with himself on the 2002 tour-seemed frankly more happy. Probably why he is not the angry psychotic rocker he was during the AFD era and the beginning of the Illusion tour. After Axl had therapy, I think his whole personality and demeanor changed. He will never be the angry sociopath that he was during the AFD era. Thus, you will never get RAWK like that from him again.

lets hope he has enough vinegar and anger in him that his eyes goes black in rage durin the performances then...?
oh-no, did i just wish him that? some emotions works good tho?

some shows are a lil' weak, but in many new gigs, axl is just rippin on the vocals better than ever i mean... you heard?
is goin fucking cracy?
i really like when axl curses a lot an has that aggresive attitude, wake up, you gonna fuckin diiiiieeee

[*Izzy*]

Damaged emotionally-childhood issues, anger, shock of becoming too rich too soon, etc. Axl has alot of baggage emotionally. However, he seemed more content with himself on the 2002 tour-seemed frankly more happy. Probably why he is not the angry psychotic rocker he was during the AFD era and the beginning of the Illusion tour. After Axl had therapy, I think his whole personality and demeanor changed. He will never be the angry sociopath that he was during the AFD era. Thus, you will never get RAWK like that from him again.

lets hope he has enough vinegar and anger in him that his eyes goes black in rage durin the performances...?
oh-no, did i just wish him that? some emotions works good tho?

some shows are a lil' weak, but in many new gigs, axl is just rippin on the vocals better than ever i mean... you heard?
i really like when axl curses a lot an has that aggresive attitude, wake up, you gonna fuckin diiiiieeee

Yeah I also hope he still has the aggresion to write songs like Welcome To The Jungle and It's So Easy?

  Izzy?

[D]

Steven Tyler didnt say he hated all his music in the 90's

what he said was

"The record label has 3 or 4 songs that you have to write to sell records, i hate it but this is a business so you have to do those 3 or 4 songs to be able to do what you wanna do."


he hated having to write "angel" and syrupy songs like that but in order to make records and stay on top it was a compromise he had to take.


ill say it right now officially

if desmond child is working with Axl that means Axl doesnt have very many lyrics or melodies wrote at all and this whole time the delay has been due to writer's block and not a perfectionist complex.

that would be scary

if DC is working with Axl something is severely wrong.

[disease51883]

True

Once CD is released, we'll be able to compare it to the first Snakepit album and see then who is top of the class

...Yeah. I just wanted to say "Ouch. That was harsh."

[Twisted Nerve 85]

who said young people can't appreciate good music
and yeah, the odds are good w\ gnr either way you see it imo, and the music is the most important

It's just that most young people follow trends in clothes, music and pretty much everything
But that doesn't mean all youngin's do (did I just say youngin's, I'm going crazy ?)

  Izzy ?

I FOR ONE am not one of those mindless youngin's LOL Who feel like their need for existence is based on how well they follow the banal pop culture. I am disgusted with the majority of my generation but for the most part am disgusted with the generations to come. But I feel that ppl know Great music when they hear it so if Chinese Democracy is half as good as I think it will be, then bullshit like LiL Jon,Usher, and the FUCKING AMERICAN IDOL SINGERS will finally have the focus taken off of it long enough for it to finally DIE!! lol Remember when appetite came out bands like Winger and fuckin POISON were popular, It was a bad time for music....Kinda like now. So I am very confident that Chinese Democracy will stir shit up and the music industry and Artists can live off of talent instead of what fucking outfit they're wearing or car they're driving.

[norway]

It's just that most young people follow trends in clothes, music and pretty much everything
But that doesn't mean all youngin's do (did I just say youngin's, I'm going crazy ?)

  Izzy ?

I FOR ONE am not one of those mindless youngin's LOL Who feel like their need for existence is based on how well they follow the banal pop culture. I am disgusted with the majority of my generation but for the most part am disgusted with the generations to come. But I feel that ppl know Great music when they hear it so if Chinese Democracy is half as good as I think it will be, then bullshit like LiL Jon,Usher, and the FUCKING AMERICAN IDOL SINGERS will finally have the focus taken off of it long enough for it to finally DIE!! lol Remember when appetite came out bands like Winger and fuckin POISON were popular, It was a bad time for music....Kinda like now. So I am very confident that Chinese Democracy will stir shit up and the music industry and Artists can live off of talent instead of what fucking outfit they're wearing or car they're driving.

yeah, nice post-agree, idol bad- and i do not the age matters much either, regardless of fanbase 
 + there are other in the band? ...for those who also appreciate the image side 2 a band...
but most important gunsnroses will hopefully be aknowledged 4 their music, which is most whats about? ?

[axlsfriend]

i think that with the sucess of vr proving they can be some sort of force in todays music and possiblly a sucessful tour and equally or bigger sucessful chinese democracy album I feel a reunion would not be far away I feel with contra band and democracy both groups would feel complete and could put their differences aside.  But i think the thing that will prevent this is Axl's new deal w/ sanctuary to use the old music.  I have a feeling songs like paradise city in the longest yard  movie is going to be rerecorded along with plenty of other old classics in the future.  This will leave a feud between the band till death, and we will never see them together. 

[GNR - CROATIA]

Not since they are out.
Once they got rid of Axl,  everyday is like christmas and birthday together for them

[*Izzy*]

Well Gn'R did start out as a glam rock band so you can't say image ain't important to Axl?

  Izzy?

[AxlRoseVen]

Do you think the Ex GNR members realize that although Axl was hard to deal with,? his talents and abilities kinda give him a pass with his whole "behavior problem"? Like I get the idea from the VR camp that Scott is this lil premidonna biatch and falls short of what the ex members are used to.

Meaning if your going to be a prmidonna you better step up. I think that in a weird way the ex members can relate to Axl more than Scott. They know Axl is? fucked up but they know that he also hits a home run when writing and performing so they cant say much about his other stuff.

But with Soctt...he tries to be this savior for rock badass type thing but just doesnt pull it off when being compared to what wa sbefore him. I wonder if the ex members get frustrated with the fact that they once had somehting so special yet its all gone simply because their ex frontman is kinda crazy....and now have to move on with a good but not great frontman....even though Slash and Duff are great in thier own right have to take a step down in terms of the team thing

do ya think slash is happy today when he's off GNR forever? 
...I never read a shit like this before, this tread makes no sense! 

[jgfnsr]

do ya think slash is happy today when he's off GNR forever??
...I never read a shit like this before, this tread makes no sense!?

"This tread makes no sense."

? ? - AxlRoseVen (king of sensibility here at HTGTH) 

[jarmo]

...I never read a shit like this before, this tread makes no sense!?

Not trying to be mean, it's just that I'm getting really tired of your posts about nothing. You just described the majority of your own posts with that sentence. Just replace "tread" with "post".

If you want to keep posting here, I suggest you take a break and just read the board for a while until you understand how it works.

Otherwise I'm afraid you'll be out of here faster than you can say "Scott Weiland". You're spamming threads with shit about Scott Weiland doing heroin.  As far as I know, that guy's not in GN'R, so why mention him in so many threads in the GN'R sections?

Consider this your last warning.



/jarmo

[a fan]

Do you think the Ex GNR members realize that although Axl was hard to deal with,? his talents and abilities kinda give him a pass with his whole "behavior problem"? Like I get the idea from the VR camp that Scott is this lil premidonna biatch and falls short of what the ex members are used to.

Meaning if your going to be a prmidonna you better step up. I think that in a weird way the ex members can relate to Axl more than Scott. They know Axl is? fucked up but they know that he also hits a home run when writing and performing so they cant say much about his other stuff.

But with Soctt...he tries to be this savior for rock badass type thing but just doesnt pull it off when being compared to what wa sbefore him. I wonder if the ex members get frustrated with the fact that they once had somehting so special yet its all gone simply because their ex frontman is kinda crazy....and now have to move on with a good but not great frontman....even though Slash and Duff are great in thier own right have to take a step down in terms of the team thing

Well, sometimes no matter how much you want something to work out with someone, certain things have happened between you and them that make it impossible to have what you once had. ?Even though Axl was very talented, whatever about him (or the situation) that made all the other guys leave him outweighs the good things Axl brought.

Also, when certain things happen in your life, whether it's between you and that person or just what you go through mentally and in life, you can't go back to the way things used to be. ?You can't do things the way you used to or think the way you used to or have the same kind of relationship with someone that you used to have. ?No matter what your age is, you are always growing and maturing.

Also, when you look back at things that happened in the past, it's a lot different from when you lived through those things.

When someone has made you suffer like that, it is hard to trust them again, so no matter what happens in the future, things aren't going to be the same as they used to be. ?If the ex-members did see Axl again or play with him again, who's to say if they'd have the chemistry that they used to. ?