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Not necessarily. They may be doing a final short album and tour with Brian before Angus continues with Axl. Even if it's a farewell for AC/DC and not just Brian, Angus seems like he still wants to continue playing so I'd say Axl is not out of the cards just yet.
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Great to see Brian and Phil back in , since Malcom's death Angus probably wanted to continue it on in his honour and get his long standing comrades back in ,No offence to Axl but for AC⚡DC to continue as a viable brand/band they need BJ back at the helm,it would be like GnR replacing Axl with Vince Neil or Myles Kennedy most fans wouldn't be happy with it and ticket sales would be catastrophic no matter how good they were.
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Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
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Quote from: allwaystired on August 08, 2018, 07:16:42 PM
Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
Amen
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Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
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Quote from: reayj2003 on August 09, 2018, 03:46:39 AM
Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
I don't even follow the music industry as such but am still hearing a lot of rumours from who knows where. Not at all only from here.
Is there a specific rumour for this one, can the photo be seen somewhere.
Generally speaking that could easily happen and happens all the time as most people probably know. Any given photo doesn't need to be photoshopped, not at all. Simply publish a picture claiming it's showing something it doesn't.
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Quote from: reayj2003 on August 09, 2018, 03:46:39 AM
Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
Apparently it's dated if you look at its properties or something.....
Someone who knows a little more about photos than me might be able to tell you more!
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Quote from: Lord Stan on August 09, 2018, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: reayj2003 on August 09, 2018, 03:46:39 AM
Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
I don't even follow the music industry as such but am still hearing a lot of rumours from who knows where. Not at all only from here.
Is there a specific rumour for this one, can the photo be seen somewhere.
Generally speaking that could easily happen and happens all the time as most people probably know. Any given photo doesn't need to be photoshopped, not at all. Simply publish a picture claiming it's showing something it doesn't.
You can see it on this guys blog:
https://earofnewt.com/2018/08/07/ac-dc-blockbuster-news-newts-rumour-proven-true-phil-rudd-is-in-vancouver-and-brian-johnson-too/
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Quote from: allwaystired on August 09, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: reayj2003 on August 09, 2018, 03:46:39 AM
Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
Apparently it's dated if you look at its properties or something.....
Someone who knows a little more about photos than me might be able to tell you more!
Cool pic but, really, we need exactly this someone. Surely, the pic is real but where and when was it taken. It simply shows a deck with some rockers. In some countries that would be called a balcony.
This could be the studio or this could be just some apartment anywhere.
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Quote from: Lord Stan on August 09, 2018, 06:36:23 PM
Quote from: allwaystired on August 09, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: reayj2003 on August 09, 2018, 03:46:39 AM
Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
Apparently it's dated if you look at its properties or something.....
Someone who knows a little more about photos than me might be able to tell you more!
Cool pic but, really, we need exactly this someone. Surely, the pic is real but where and when was it taken. It simply shows a deck with some rockers. In some countries that would be called a balcony.
This could be the studio or this could be just some apartment anywhere.
Properties say it was taken on August 6th at 5:49 PM (no idea if that's my local time zone or their local time zone) with a Canon EOS20D.
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Quote from: pilferk on August 09, 2018, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Stan on August 09, 2018, 06:36:23 PM
Quote from: allwaystired on August 09, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: reayj2003 on August 09, 2018, 03:46:39 AM
Is this photo definitely 2018? It could easily be from 2015 or whenever rock or bust was recorded.
Apparently it's dated if you look at its properties or something.....
Someone who knows a little more about photos than me might be able to tell you more!
Cool pic but, really, we need exactly this someone. Surely, the pic is real but where and when was it taken. It simply shows a deck with some rockers. In some countries that would be called a balcony.
This could be the studio or this could be just some apartment anywhere.
Properties say it was taken on August 6th at 5:49 PM (no idea if that's my local time zone or their local time zone) with a Canon EOS20D.
Yes? Where, which country, which city.
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Quote from: Lord Stan on August 09, 2018, 09:20:04 PM
Yes? Where, which country, which city.
It was taken with a Canon camera, not a phone, so no location tags associated with the file.
So we know it's recent, but not precisely where.
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Quote from: allwaystired on August 08, 2018, 07:16:42 PM
Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
Even as an AC/DC fan who often defends Brian from criticism, I feel like he's said everything he had to say anyway. Hell, he hasn't written lyrics since 1988. Axl would have brought a fresh energy and ideas, not to mention a new sound that I think worked wonderfully, to the band and I was really hoping to hear some kind of collaboration. But again, this doesn't rule out Angus continuing as a solo artist and maybe working with Axl in that capacity. I guess I'm just not as reverent of the band name as some fans are. I can deal with Guns having a whole new lineup except Axl and Dizzy without feeling like the AFD legacy is ruined somehow by it. Things change, that's just life. Hell, even an individual person can change radically over a lifetime, while they are still the same person regardless, so to expect a band to remain exactly as it was to begin with (or at its peak), is just silly IMO.
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Quote from: pilferk on August 09, 2018, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: Lord Stan on August 09, 2018, 09:20:04 PM
Yes? Where, which country, which city.
It was taken with a Canon camera, not a phone, so no location tags associated with the file.
So we know it's recent, but not precisely where.
It's their studio in Vancouver- if you look it up you can see it's the same place. There's no doubt at all in my mind - AC/DC are in thwir recording studio with Brian and Phil Rudd. The latter is interesting as he was very crutical of Axl being in the band, and Axl made a couple of jokes at his expense when he didnthe promo interview with Angus, based around his 'having someone killed' scandal.
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It's their studio in Vancouver- if you look it up you can see it's the same place. There's no doubt at all in my mind - AC/DC are in thwir recording studio with Brian and Phil Rudd. The latter is interesting as he was very crutical of Axl being in the band, and Axl made a couple of jokes at his expense when he didnthe promo interview with Angus, based around his 'having someone killed' scandal.
I just want to be clear:
I totally believe that it is.
There's just nothing in the file that says it is.
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Quote from: allwaystired on August 10, 2018, 02:57:55 AM
It's their studio in Vancouver- if you look it up you can see it's the same place. There's no doubt at all in my mind - AC/DC are in thwir recording studio with Brian and Phil Rudd. The latter is interesting as he was very crutical of Axl being in the band, and Axl made a couple of jokes at his expense when he didnthe promo interview with Angus, based around his 'having someone killed' scandal.
I just want to be clear:
I totally believe that it is.
There's just nothing in the file that says it is.
It's not being negative or anything. But as things stand we have nothing in the file.
It really is as simple as that. Have you ever been to some party where pictures were taken. That could be the studio or just an average party.
If pics were taken why aren't there any others but one single shot. Maybe it was a short party or a studio session. Studio time is expensive and you can't waste it by mocking around.
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Quote from: allwaystired on August 08, 2018, 07:16:42 PM
Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
Even as an AC/DC fan who often defends Brian from criticism, I feel like he's said everything he had to say anyway. Hell, he hasn't written lyrics since 1988. Axl would have brought a fresh energy and ideas, not to mention a new sound that I think worked wonderfully, to the band and I was really hoping to hear some kind of collaboration. But again, this doesn't rule out Angus continuing as a solo artist and maybe working with Axl in that capacity. I guess I'm just not as reverent of the band name as some fans are. I can deal with Guns having a whole new lineup except Axl and Dizzy without feeling like the AFD legacy is ruined somehow by it. Things change, that's just life. Hell, even an individual person can change radically over a lifetime, while they are still the same person regardless, so to expect a band to remain exactly as it was to begin with (or at its peak), is just silly IMO.
Well...so we can substitute Axl with another great singer, so maybe we can have a gnr album every year.
Axl doesn't belong to Ac Dc. I think it was great, really great, what he achieved with that tour but that's it. I hope he'll push his voice with gnr as much as he did with ac dc, one more time before he can't sing anymore. That would be enough for me
(plus a studio album with slash and duff and maybe steven, obviously)
Angus is totally right having back his old pal (if he can sing in studio, at least ). I'd like to listen Axl + Brian on a studio song, i know it's not ac dc style but...who knows
I feel like Angus owes something to Axl and they look like they are in good terms if not friends so...
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I know this news may be disappointing to some, but I have a crazy idea. It's a little out there, so bear with me. What if Axl put out new music with
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Quote from: sofine11 on August 10, 2018, 12:00:12 PM
I know this news may be disappointing to some, but I have a crazy idea. It's a little out there, so bear with me. What if Axl put out new music with
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They are very seriously looking at what to do in that regard...
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Quote from: sofine11 on August 10, 2018, 12:00:12 PM
I know this news may be disappointing to some, but I have a crazy idea. It's a little out there, so bear with me. What if Axl put out new music with
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They are very seriously looking at what to do in that regard...
Oh I have no doubts!
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Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
Even as an AC/DC fan who often defends Brian from criticism, I feel like he's said everything he had to say anyway. Hell, he hasn't written lyrics since 1988. Axl would have brought a fresh energy and ideas, not to mention a new sound that I think worked wonderfully, to the band and I was really hoping to hear some kind of collaboration. But again, this doesn't rule out Angus continuing as a solo artist and maybe working with Axl in that capacity. I guess I'm just not as reverent of the band name as some fans are. I can deal with Guns having a whole new lineup except Axl and Dizzy without feeling like the AFD legacy is ruined somehow by it. Things change, that's just life. Hell, even an individual person can change radically over a lifetime, while they are still the same person regardless, so to expect a band to remain exactly as it was to begin with (or at its peak), is just silly IMO.
Well...so we can substitute Axl with another great singer, so maybe we can have a gnr album every year.
Axl doesn't belong to Ac Dc. I think it was great, really great, what he achieved with that tour but that's it. I hope he'll push his voice with gnr as much as he did with ac dc, one more time before he can't sing anymore. That would be enough for me
(plus a studio album with slash and duff and maybe steven, obviously)
Angus is totally right having back his old pal (if he can sing in studio, at least ). I'd like to listen Axl + Brian on a studio song, i know it's not ac dc style but...who knows
I feel like Angus owes something to Axl and they look like they are in good terms if not friends so...
I mean, nobody here minded replacing Slash with a new lead guitarist, among other things. One could just as well have said Finck doesn't belong [in] Guns. You kind of ignored my entire point, that things can change and still remain what they are. Slash can get a defibrillator implanted in his heart and yet he's still Slash.
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Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
Even as an AC/DC fan who often defends Brian from criticism, I feel like he's said everything he had to say anyway. Hell, he hasn't written lyrics since 1988. Axl would have brought a fresh energy and ideas, not to mention a new sound that I think worked wonderfully, to the band and I was really hoping to hear some kind of collaboration. But again, this doesn't rule out Angus continuing as a solo artist and maybe working with Axl in that capacity. I guess I'm just not as reverent of the band name as some fans are. I can deal with Guns having a whole new lineup except Axl and Dizzy without feeling like the AFD legacy is ruined somehow by it. Things change, that's just life. Hell, even an individual person can change radically over a lifetime, while they are still the same person regardless, so to expect a band to remain exactly as it was to begin with (or at its peak), is just silly IMO.
Well...so we can substitute Axl with another great singer, so maybe we can have a gnr album every year.
Axl doesn't belong to Ac Dc. I think it was great, really great, what he achieved with that tour but that's it. I hope he'll push his voice with gnr as much as he did with ac dc, one more time before he can't sing anymore. That would be enough for me
(plus a studio album with slash and duff and maybe steven, obviously)
Angus is totally right having back his old pal (if he can sing in studio, at least ). I'd like to listen Axl + Brian on a studio song, i know it's not ac dc style but...who knows
I feel like Angus owes something to Axl and they look like they are in good terms if not friends so...
I mean, nobody here minded replacing Slash with a new lead guitarist, among other things. One could just as well have said Finck doesn't belong [in] Guns. You kind of ignored my entire point, that things can change and still remain what they are. Slash can get a defibrillator implanted in his heart and yet he's still Slash.
I didn't ignore your point.. But as always, we are talking about a band or a brand? I mean if i buy gnr rights and i play with my band as gnr, i'm gnr? The answer is obvious. You can't say "i'm not as reverent of the band name as some fans are". Name in art is important. You know, if a "Monet" was painted by another, that would be called fake. Art is a product of certain people and that's it. Art is not coca cola, u can't sell it ignoring people behind it... Even Axl knows it and i think that at a certain point he was tired of playing in small arenas
If u want to play with other people, just leave alone the old name, it's always the best choice.
If u love art, i'm very good at faking Lucio Fontana's art. I'll cut one canvas for you. I'll even sign it . Just give me 2 millions .
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I didn't ignore your point.. But as always, we are talking about a band or a brand? I mean if i buy gnr rights and i play with my band as gnr, i'm gnr? The answer is obvious.
Yes, the answer is yes. A name is just a name. And a band is just a group of people. Groups change. Whatever lineup you believe is the "real" one is entirely subjective. Besides, if you want to get as pedantic as possible you're going to run into the Ship of Theseus paradox.
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You can't say "i'm not as reverent of the band name as some fans are".
I can't? Tell me what else I can and can't say, just so I know for future reference. It's stupid to say that something a band does today changes its past.
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Name in art is important. You know, if a "Monet" was painted by another, that would be called fake. Art is a product of certain people and that's it. Art is not coca cola, u can't sell it ignoring people behind it... Even Axl knows it and i think that at a certain point he was tired of playing in small arenas
If u want to play with other people, just leave alone the old name, it's always the best choice.
Now you are conflating a creator's name with a band name. The band is just the product of several creators. It's more akin to an album name than "Saul Hudson". However, if you want to use that as an analogy; if Axl gets a heart transplant, does that now make him an Axl Rose impostor? Does replacing the bass player in AC/DC make them suddenly a counterfeit AC/DC? If not, then where do you draw the line? I would say Angus being the ONLY original member left, is the most qualified person to say whether or not it's still AC/DC, not a bunch of opinionated fans.
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Probably the right thing for AC/DC. Their fans are excited, it's what they wanted- and after such a long career if it's the end of the road for them then doing it in a way that makes them happy is the best idea.
I think this probably will be the last swing for AC/DC- they've had a pretty good run of it!
Even as an AC/DC fan who often defends Brian from criticism, I feel like he's said everything he had to say anyway. Hell, he hasn't written lyrics since 1988. Axl would have brought a fresh energy and ideas, not to mention a new sound that I think worked wonderfully, to the band and I was really hoping to hear some kind of collaboration. But again, this doesn't rule out Angus continuing as a solo artist and maybe working with Axl in that capacity. I guess I'm just not as reverent of the band name as some fans are. I can deal with Guns having a whole new lineup except Axl and Dizzy without feeling like the AFD legacy is ruined somehow by it. Things change, that's just life. Hell, even an individual person can change radically over a lifetime, while they are still the same person regardless, so to expect a band to remain exactly as it was to begin with (or at its peak), is just silly IMO.
Well...so we can substitute Axl with another great singer, so maybe we can have a gnr album every year.
Axl doesn't belong to Ac Dc. I think it was great, really great, what he achieved with that tour but that's it. I hope he'll push his voice with gnr as much as he did with ac dc, one more time before he can't sing anymore. That would be enough for me
(plus a studio album with slash and duff and maybe steven, obviously)
Angus is totally right having back his old pal (if he can sing in studio, at least ). I'd like to listen Axl + Brian on a studio song, i know it's not ac dc style but...who knows
I feel like Angus owes something to Axl and they look like they are in good terms if not friends so...
I mean, nobody here minded replacing Slash with a new lead guitarist, among other things. One could just as well have said Finck doesn't belong [in] Guns. You kind of ignored my entire point, that things can change and still remain what they are. Slash can get a defibrillator implanted in his heart and yet he's still Slash.
I didn't ignore your point.. But as always, we are talking about a band or a brand? I mean if i buy gnr rights and i play with my band as gnr, i'm gnr? The answer is obvious. You can't say "i'm not as reverent of the band name as some fans are". Name in art is important. You know, if a "Monet" was painted by another, that would be called fake. Art is a product of certain people and that's it. Art is not coca cola, u can't sell it ignoring people behind it... Even Axl knows it and i think that at a certain point he was tired of playing in small arenas
If u want to play with other people, just leave alone the old name, it's always the best choice.
If u love art, i'm very good at faking Lucio Fontana's art. I'll cut one canvas for you. I'll even sign it . Just give me 2 millions .
AC⚡DC would be well advised to keep Axl out of the studio we know what a control freak he is with Chinese Democracy taking nearly 14 years to come out ,one of the reason Slash and Duff left is because he wouldn't work with them in the studio they spent months trying to follow up the illusions records and he would never show up while they were there and when he did he just dismissed what they had done,and then to add insult to injury he starts bringing in other Guitarists without consulting them and using their work instead of Slash and Duff e.g. Sympathy for the devil. ACDC fans want BJ singing on a new record they don't want Axl or anyone else, Axl should concentrate on GnR and try and put out new material if they continue next year because this nostalgic trip is really getting tiresome.
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AC⚡DC would be well advised to keep Axl out of the studio we know what a control freak he is with Chinese Democracy taking nearly .....
Your version of history is a very condensed version leaving out parts, to make your story fit your narrative that Axl is evil.
You're also assuming he considers AC/DC his band.
Did you see them live when he toured with them? Did you see Angus Young when he came out to perform with GN'R?
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Quote from: Executioner on August 12, 2018, 07:12:50 AM
AC⚡DC would be well advised to keep Axl out of the studio we know what a control freak he is with Chinese Democracy taking nearly .....
Your version of history is a very condensed version leaving out parts, to make your story fit your narrative that Axl is evil.
You're also assuming he considers AC/DC his band.
Did you see them live when he toured with them? Did you see Angus Young when he came out to perform with GN'R?
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Quote from: jarmo on August 12, 2018, 09:28:13 AM
Quote from: Executioner on August 12, 2018, 07:12:50 AM
AC⚡DC would be well advised to keep Axl out of the studio we know what a control freak he is with Chinese Democracy taking nearly .....
Your version of history is a very condensed version leaving out parts, to make your story fit your narrative that Axl is evil.
You're also assuming he considers AC/DC his band.
Did you see them live when he toured with them? Did you see Angus Young when he came out to perform with GN'R?
/jarmo
Never said he was evil just stating the facts as they are,AC⚡DC will go into the studio over a few week period and have an album ready in 3 months no messing around with 20 producer's and hiring and firing 30 guitarists ,If Axl was involved it would never see the light of day or else be re recorded multiple times and released in 10 years ,Nobody is doubting his ability to knock it out of the park on stage but off it leaves a lot to be desired.
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Never said he was evil just stating the facts as they are,AC⚡DC will go into the studio over a few week period and have an album ready in 3 months no messing around with 20 producer's and hiring and firing 30 guitarists ,If Axl was involved it would never see the light of day or else be re recorded multiple times and released in 10 years ,Nobody is doubting his ability to knock it out of the park on stage but off it leaves a lot to be desired.
Once again, you have no idea how him and Angus would work together. Please stop assuming you do....
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Quote from: Executioner on August 12, 2018, 12:49:16 PM
Never said he was evil just stating the facts as they are,AC⚡DC will go into the studio over a few week period and have an album ready in 3 months no messing around with 20 producer's and hiring and firing 30 guitarists ,If Axl was involved it would never see the light of day or else be re recorded multiple times and released in 10 years ,Nobody is doubting his ability to knock it out of the park on stage but off it leaves a lot to be desired.
Once again, you have no idea how him and Angus would work together. Please stop assuming you do....
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Given that BJ is back on board that problem won't arise, Axl did a tour with them but that's as far as it will go I suggest you read Slash's book if you want a real insight into what working with Axl is like or is that all BS now that they have patched things up because forner band members and music insiders have come out with similar stories but his camp seem to think it's all some big witch hunt ,but the facts speak for themselves one original album in 25 years tells you all you need to know.
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Given that BJ is back on board that problem won't arise, Axl did a tour with them but that's as far as it will go I suggest you read Slash's book if you want a real insight into what working with Axl is like or is that all BS now that they have patched things up because forner band members and music insiders have come out with similar stories but his camp seem to think it's all some big witch hunt ,but the facts speak for themselves one original album in 25 years tells you all you need to know.
Real insight?
You mean one person's account of the situation.
Axl:
"Slash and I hadn't talked in 19 years, and [when we reunited] it was a good talk. And I was like, 'You wrote a lot of stuff that didn't even happen. It's not real.'"
Maybe you should read some more to see some other point of views.... You seem stuck in whatever the general public seems to believe and keep repeating it like it's the truth.
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Just throwing it out there, but I wonder if Angus asked Axl to do a record and Axl declined for one reason or another. Most of the rumors were suggesting an Axl/Angus record and then out of the blue Brian's back.
Don't forget that Axl did guest vocals on a couple tracks for Seb Bach before ChiDem was released and as far as we know, it was a drama-free affair. I'm sure he could have put something together for Angus without getting too 'obsessive' about it. Most of the negative stories about Axl are decades old at this point.
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Quote from: Executioner on August 12, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
Given that BJ is back on board that problem won't arise, Axl did a tour with them but that's as far as it will go I suggest you read Slash's book if you want a real insight into what working with Axl is like or is that all BS now that they have patched things up because forner band members and music insiders have come out with similar stories but his camp seem to think it's all some big witch hunt ,but the facts speak for themselves one original album in 25 years tells you all you need to know.
Real insight?
You mean one person's account of the situation.
Axl:
"Slash and I hadn't talked in 19 years, and [when we reunited] it was a good talk. And I was like, 'You wrote a lot of stuff that didn't even happen. It's not real.'"
Maybe you should read some more to see some other point of views.... You seem stuck in whatever the general public seems to believe and keep repeating it like it's the truth.
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Ok who to believe is open to debate maybe Axl should do his own book and tell his side as he was the only one sober during that time . TBH I don't wanna see Axl with ACDC even though he did a fantastic job and silenced the most cynical critics like me lol, I'd much rather a new GnR album and then touring off the back of that if they are to continue with Slash and Duff going into next year.
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I think most here would love to get a new GN'R album, and probably prefer getting one to anything else....
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I know this news may be disappointing to some, but I have a crazy idea. It's a little out there, so bear with me. What if Axl put out new music with
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They are very seriously looking at what to do in that regard...
Hahahaha
C'mon, people. AXL/DC may in fact not be happening. But it AIN'T because Axl is burning the midnight oil on new GNR stuff.
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Quote from: Ginger King on August 10, 2018, 12:38:38 PM
Quote from: sofine11 on August 10, 2018, 12:00:12 PM
I know this news may be disappointing to some, but I have a crazy idea. It's a little out there, so bear with me. What if Axl put out new music with
HIS
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They are very seriously looking at what to do in that regard...
Hahahaha
C'mon, people. AXL/DC may in fact not be happening. But it AIN'T because Axl is burning the midnight oil on new GNR stuff.
How would you know that exactly? (Rhetorical question)
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on August 13, 2018, 02:35:01 PM
How would you know that exactly? (Rhetorical question)
Hey...look who's back.
I'm going to go ahead and lean on the past 27 years of GNR history.
You can lean on...I don't know, just being contrarian? Good luck with all that.
The past 27 years of GNR history have netted us a grand total of 15 new songs, and a demo from 1986 that may or may not have been touched up. Those are the facts. And of those 15 new songs, 14 of them came out in 2008, but we know some of those vocal tracks were as far back as 1999.
So...yeah. Doens't really support that our pal Axl is a workaholic.
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How would you know that exactly? (Rhetorical question)
Hey...look who's back.
I'm going to go ahead and lean on the past 27 years of GNR history.
You can lean on...I don't know, just being contrarian? Good luck with all that.
The past 27 years of GNR history have netted us a grand total of 15 new songs, and a demo from 1986 that may or may not have been touched up. Those are the facts. And of those 15 new songs, 14 of them came out in 2008, but we know some of those vocal tracks were as far back as 1999.
So...yeah. Doens't really support that our pal Axl is a workaholic.
So you're admitting that you have no way of actually knowing, and were spouting and touting your opinion as if it were fact, per usual.
Surely you are aware that the released work of a musician may not be indicative of what has actually been composed?
Artists create, releasing the work to the world is an option.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on August 14, 2018, 11:53:01 AM
So you're admitting that you have no way of actually knowing, and were spouting and touting your opinion as if it were fact, per usual.
Surely you are aware that the released work of a musician may not be indicative of what has actually been composed?
Artists create, releasing the work to the world is an option.
Yeah, this is just happy horseshit that people in DEEP denial tell themselves.
The reality is that Guns N' Roses is no longer a viable creative entity. They haven't been for some time. What they are, is a touring operation. Which they've also been for some time.
What's nice for we fans, is that for the last 3 years they have been a professional and competent touring operation. Probably for the firsst time in their entire career, that can be said. I saw the NITL tour both times it came through town. Loved it. Didn't talk to one person that went to either show that did not have a blast. Ditto those I know that went to shows in neighboring cities. All good stories.
But that is where we are now. If it gets you all funny in the pants to think you are onto some big secret that will show itself one day and then won't you be the one crowing, you do that. You might as well also get to waiting on the discovery of time travel and the chances that you one day achieve the power of flight.
Equal chances of success, "Emily".
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Just throwing it out there, but I wonder if Angus asked Axl to do a record and Axl declined for one reason or another. Most of the rumors were suggesting an Axl/Angus record and then out of the blue Brian's back.
Don't forget that Axl did guest vocals on a couple tracks for Seb Bach before ChiDem was released and as far as we know, it was a drama-free affair. I'm sure he could have put something together for Angus without getting too 'obsessive' about it. Most of the negative stories about Axl are decades old at this point.
It may have been considered, but with the bitching from certain AC/DC fans, Angus must have changed his mind.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on August 13, 2018, 02:35:01 PM
How would you know that exactly? (Rhetorical question)
Hey...look who's back.
I'm going to go ahead and lean on the past 27 years of GNR history.
You can lean on...I don't know, just being contrarian? Good luck with all that.
The past 27 years of GNR history have netted us a grand total of 15 new songs, and a demo from 1986 that may or may not have been touched up. Those are the facts. And of those 15 new songs, 14 of them came out in 2008, but we know some of those vocal tracks were as far back as 1999.
So...yeah. Doens't really support that our pal Axl is a workaholic.
I think the final vocals were recorded in 2005-2007. His voice had zero rasp around the new millennium.
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I read something,somewhere from an obviously unconfirmed source but they implied that Brian signed in for the album,a tribute record to Malcom. Nothing more. Do people seriously think Johnson is magically able to tour and front one of the loudest bands on the planet without risk again?I believe we’ve seen the last of Brian playing live with the band and we have not seen the last of Axl/DC. Recording tracks for a record is viable without risking his health. I also am pretty certain there were unconfirmed Axl sighting in time just prior to the photo release. Apologies to if I missed someone else post any of this information.
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Quote from: 1980Invasion on September 04, 2018, 02:48:37 PM
I read something,somewhere from an obviously unconfirmed source but they implied that Brian signed in for the album,a tribute record to Malcom. Nothing more. Do people seriously think Johnson is magically able to tour and front one of the loudest bands on the planet without risk again?I believe we’ve seen the last of Brian playing live with the band and we have not seen the last of Axl/DC. Recording tracks for a record is viable without risking his health. I also am pretty certain there were unconfirmed Axl sighting in time just prior to the photo release. Apologies to if I missed someone else post any of this information.
The mention of Axl was a misunderstood joke. The guy essentially said "I would like to announce that I saw Axl at the studio with them. ... but I can't because it was Brian." The way he worded it made everyone think Axl was spotted there.
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Quote from: 1980Invasion on September 04, 2018, 02:48:37 PM
I read something,somewhere from an obviously unconfirmed source but they implied that Brian signed in for the album,a tribute record to Malcom. Nothing more. Do people seriously think Johnson is magically able to tour and front one of the loudest bands on the planet without risk again?I believe we’ve seen the last of Brian playing live with the band and we have not seen the last of Axl/DC. Recording tracks for a record is viable without risking his health. I also am pretty certain there were unconfirmed Axl sighting in time just prior to the photo release. Apologies to if I missed someone else post any of this information.
Yeah, I believe it! I mean, it certainly looks lile Brian is back, and I'm sure I saw him talking avout some new hearing thing he has now. I can see them touring for sure.
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Didn't they come up with hearing protection for Brian on stage and his condition also had improved? I want to say I heard that somewhere a year or so ago.
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the album will be what Back In Black was to Bon Scott, a tribute in memory to Malcolm, so I suppose that's
the most logical thing to do to record it with AC/DC members who has history with him and the whole band.
that's probably why we see Cliff Williams, Brian Johnson and Phil Rudd are back...
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Didn't they come up with hearing protection for Brian on stage and his condition also had improved? I want to say I heard that somewhere a year or so ago.
There was a kind of hearing aid developed with supposedly much better technology than what existed before, but it still can only do so much, as hearing damage is permanent. That would make it more possible for him to record at a manageable volume and just live his life, but do nothing to protect his hearing onstage at concert volume.
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Exactly. The chances of him playing live are slim and none in my estimation. But I’m nobody.
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