WES BORLAND TO REPLACE BUCKETHEAD?!

[DE]

From the GNR press release Lisbon cancellation;

In the meantime rather than dwelling on the negative, Guns will be moving forward and surprisingly (without giving away any details) this unfortunate set of circumstances may have given us the opportunity to take our recording that one extra step further. Regardless we hope to announce a release date within the next few months.

ie. they have a new guitarist lined up who will not only help to finish the album but will also take it that 'one step further'.

From Wes Borlands Eat the Day website;

I also have another possible massively cool (in my book anyway) project coming up that I can't tell you anything about except that I think it's...well great, obviously."

Do the math. If Buckethead is leaving GNR and they are not touring without him then they are shopping for a new 3rd Guitarist. Borland would have to be on Axl's list of potential replacements and he would be the perfect fit for the new band! In terms of pulling power he would actually give the new GNR that extra bit of credibility to not only the record but also a tour.

If you are trying to appeal to the 'nu-metal' crowd then who better than THE nu-metal guitarist!

What's ironic that in some quarters Buckethead was always held up as a Borland wannabe!

Let's all hope that Borland helps finish the album, it's released for Christmas, he get's offered and agrees to tour and we can all get on with our lives! Enough already!

[grabaraxl]

i don't think the words "credibility", "nu metal" or "limp bizkit" don't belnog in the same sentence.

[MeanBone]

JEEZ Christ!!
WES BORLAND CAN'T PLAY!!!!!! and i've heard his solo albums and they SUCK! he can't play!

this is just pure imagination.... but if axl was to find someone new, he could actually find someone who played guitar in the first place so just don't go there....

[KeVoRkIaN]

Gotta love how in the world of GNR we can all start believing that anyone doing some new project that they can't talk about automatically gets everyone believeing he is "the one"

No doubt....completely unrelated.

Welcome to the board - your first post fits in here!!!!

Buckethead a Wes Borland wannabe? Pllllleasssse....... - Not only was Buckethead first.... that just insulting..... no comparison.....

[matt88]

No way i dont want wes borland in GN'R, his style doesnt suit

[hackvresse]

Buckethead is like 10 times better...

[madagas]

Although I can't see this happeneing, I will give you a connection. Borland hangs out with the Tool crowd and I believe Pitman does too. It is not far fetched that the two camps would know each other.

[Izzy]

He'd be a welcome addition for sure

[Counterfeit_God]

As much as I hate Limp Bizkit, and I dislike the noises that Wes has put out as solo projects, he is actually one hell of a good guitar player.

Joining GNR would actually give him solid credibility as a guitarist with the people who say he cant play just because he was in a band with a lame songwriter.

[Slipdisc]

Do the math. If Buckethead is leaving GNR and they are not touring without him then they are shopping for a new 3rd Guitarist. Borland would have to be on Axl's list of potential replacements and he would be the perfect fit for the new band!

Perfect fit? Not really, Borland is a very average guitarplayer. Good showman (where have I heard this before?), but that s it.

In terms of pulling power he would actually give the new GNR that extra bit of credibility to not only the record but also a tour.

He would surely give the band power in a live setting but that s it (again). Don t expect too much music-wise from him. Borland s biggest talents are his make-up skills and the jumping he does on stage (but then again he jumps really high).

If you are trying to appeal to the 'nu-metal' crowd then who better than THE nu-metal guitarist!

I don t consider myself part of the nu-metal crowd. What has the new GNR to do with nu-metal?

What's ironic that in some quarters Buckethead was always held up as a Borland wannabe!

No, what s ironic is that Buckethead was already playing like Satriani on acid when Borland couldn t even tie his own shoes. So who wants to be who? Borland probably wishes he could ever reach Buck s level of playing.

Let's all hope that Borland helps finish the album, it's released for Christmas, he get's offered and agrees to tour and we can all get on with our lives! Enough already!

Let s hope he stays away from the album as far as possible! Have you ever heard Borland s solostuff? The best thing one could say about it, is that it s funny...

Nu-metal represents the dark-ages in guitarmusic. After years and years of great guitarmusic in the 60s 70s 80s, it single handedly turned the guitar into nothing more than a background instrument. A player coming from this background could never fit well in a band like GNR. Borland wouldn t recognize a guitarsolo if it bit him in the ass.

-PEACE-

he cant play just because he was in a band with a lame songwriter.

No, I 've heard his solostuf it really sucks, both technical and musical....

[Chunkie]

Acctually.. i would be a great deal if Wes Joins GN'R and helps finishing the album... but acctually like someone said before Buckethead is a hell lot better so in this post im acctually neutral, i dont care what happens Gn'R has had so many guitarists in their lifes so im happy they release the album already... i mean come on... wewe been promised an album for a while now.. and acctually it has gone a hell lot of whiels now..

[Izzy]

As long as Finck or Fortus aren't playing lead i don't care who is on lead, even if its Axl........

Just keep the rest of them from ruining any more solo's.....poor November Rain, poor Sweet Child.....u inhuman monsters!!!!!!!!

[Crowebar]

Limp Jizz-kit sucks the big fat bag and so does leslie borland.


Bunch of little fucking goofs.


[puke]

[puke]

and, [puke]


Thank you. [bow]

[madagas]

I will say that if a guy from Limp Bizkit joins Gnr, it is O-V-E-R. I could not think of anyone less suited to be in Gnr.  

[Voodoochild]

Nu-metal represents the dark-ages in guitarmusic. After years and years of great guitarmusic in the 60s 70s 80s, it single handedly turned the guitar into nothing more than a background instrument. A player coming from this background could never fit well in a band like GNR. Borland wouldn t recognize a guitarsolo if it bit him in the ass.

Indeed. Imagine those ugly guitar sounds (both clean and distorted channels) in some song like Oh My God (with barithon guitar, I guess). It would be lame! Fuck, Axl didn't look for players who has only "atittude" skills. He wants a good guitar player with experimental and unique sounds.
A good choice to replace Buckethead? Why don't you call Paul Gilbert, Axl?    

[DE]

In response to Slipdisc,
 
Perfect fit? Not really, Borland is a very average guitarplayer. Good showman (where have I heard this before?), but that s it.

- GNR already have Finck and Fortus, if they are going down the 3 guitar player route what they need is someone like Borland. He's contemporary, got a track record and is a great showman. Just what they need if they are to attempt tour the US again! He'll bring added interest to the record/tour package.

He would surely give the band power in a live setting but that s it (again). Don t expect too much music-wise from him. Borland s biggest talents are his make-up skills and the jumping he does on stage (but then again he jumps really high).

- GNR musically is a group effort so they don't need to rely entirely on him, though in my view he's underated solely because he used to be in LB. Live, yes he's great.


I don t consider myself part of the nu-metal crowd. What has the new GNR to do with nu-metal?

- By new metal crowd I am referring to pretty much the whole record buying/ concert going public under the age of 25. If GNR are to pick up where they left off then face it, they need the kids in the LB tee shirts at their gigs. They won't selling anywhere near the 10 million +units they need to of CD record otherwise.


No, what s ironic is that Buckethead was already playing like Satriani on acid when Borland couldn t even tie his own shoes. So who wants to be who? Borland probably wishes he could ever reach Buck s level of playing.

- Yet Borland, with laces flapping, would still probably sell more records and concert tickets in addition to adding  more 'buzz' to the new GNR than Buckethead. Buckethead probably wishes he could have the same impact as Borland did in his work with LB!


Nu-metal represents the dark-ages in guitarmusic. After years and years of great guitarmusic in the 60s 70s 80s, it single handedly turned the guitar into nothing more than a background instrument. A player coming from this background could never fit well in a band like GNR. Borland wouldn t recognize a guitarsolo if it bit him in the ass.

-This is 2004! I saw GNR in 1987 and there wasn't a keyboard player in sight. Now they have 2!!! Times change and like it or not Borland is held up as being probably the leader of the new wave of guitar player today and his joining the new GNR would speak volumes about them being a contemporary act.

I saw the new GNR live in 2002 and in my view Buckethead was always taking the piss playing Pirates of the Carribean crap. Why did he not just come straight out with it and admit to being a mercenary bastard who was in it for the money/profile.

Buckethead was the antithesis of Slash but now he's gone and GNR need a replacement, Borland fulfills the same role, is known to the new GNR camp (through Pitman) and about 5 million more people have heard of him than Buckethead.

Who would you have?

ps. Have you heard some of the bollocks Bucketheads done??? The kindest thing to say is that solo records are often no indication of ability!

[Hammy]

I will say that if a guy from Limp Bizkit joins Gnr, it is O-V-E-R. I could not think of anyone less suited to be in Gnr.  

mmmm........someone less suited howz about somebody from Blink 182, anywayz as for what if Wes joined i think it would suck he ain't anything special but i also don't think Axl would do something like that just to get more over with fans 2day i mean he ain't gonna get him for his talent

[C0ma]

First off: Wes Borland isn't all that good.

Secondly: Why do they need a third guitar player anyway

and D.) If they do add a third guitarist why does it always have to be some reject from a bad metal band.......why not some unknown phenom out of the Berkley School of Music or something like that.......90 % of those kids could smoke Buckethead, Johnny5, and Wes Borland anyway

[Slipdisc]

90 % of those kids could smoke Buckethead, Johnny5, and Wes Borland anyway

BS, maybe they can kick Borland's en 5's ass, but the only guy that could -smoke- Buckethead was Shawn Lane (RIP). Nobody else..

-PEACE-

[GNR - CROATIA]

People,   just LIVE with it!       GNR were over and DONE the day SLASH left!
IT wouldn't be GNR even if MATT,  DUFF and GILBY stayed.
But now?
This is AXL's   solo project called GNR.
Iam not saying this to offend anyone,  but for people who are above 20,  who used to go to their concerts,  who were 'there'  when they were 'there',  this is not interesting to say the least!
You'll never see Dead Horse,  Paradise city,  Estranged,  Nov.  Rain,  SCOM,  Breakdown,  Bad Apples,  Locomotive,  COMA,   WTTJ,  Don't cry,  Rocket queen,  Nightrain,   My Michelle,  Mr.  B,   Back off...,  the way there were.  NEVER!
That is the reason why most of the songs aren't even played since they left (a couple were from this list, a couple...).
AXL is aware nobody else can play them the guys did,  and he is not even trying.
I don't offend or provoke anyone,  but GNR as we liked them are DONE.
Nu-metal,  techno or whatever AXL is trying to appeal to new generations is bull shit.
GNR (just like NIRVANA,  PUMPKINS, ZEPPELIN,  PERAL JAM,   QUEEN...),  were so big they didn't need to care if someone likes them or not.
The day AXL did try to appeal, it DIED!
I don't care if its Borland,  Can head, Nu - Metal,  Rap or Techno,  IT IS NOT GNR anymore.