Guns N' Roses announce European tour for 2020 + more shows in South America

[rizzo160]

Thanks for the update Jarmo

[jarmo]

No worries.

Everyone's waiting to see what will happen...



/jarmo

[rizzo160]

I'm surprised they have not postponed the European tour dates yet.  It is supposed to start in a month, probably hear something soon.

[jarmo]

It might be because all this is affecting a lot of tours at the same time.

None of the festivals GN'R is scheduled to headline at has been postponed/canceled yet for example.

Other summer tours in Europe are still scheduled as well.




/jarmo

[Spirit]

I think it's safe to say the tour will be postponed, but they're awaiting new dates to be announced.

To put things in perspective, Norway has got the pandemic "under control", but experts announced today that domestic football matches with an audience is not likely for 2020.

[tim_m]

Nothing will have an audience this year imo. This is just our new normal for awhile. It's gonna take a massive increase in diagnostic and antibody testing and either an antiviral that eliminates the fatality risk or a vaccine. Harvard researchers today said some social distancing might be needed until 2022 without a vaccine.

[PermissionToLand]

I feel like with their reluctance to cancel that Mexico show, they are still holding out hope for Europe. Probably in vain though, IMO.

[cineater]

I feel like with their reluctance to cancel that Mexico show, they are still holding out hope for Europe. Probably in vain though, IMO.

I don't think anybody is holding out hope.  All those festivals can't be rescheduled for this year.  So what to do about all those tickets they sold and no longer have the money to pay people back?  Could consider what the sports people are going to do, play without fans in the stands.  There's still options.

[tim_m]

I feel like with their reluctance to cancel that Mexico show, they are still holding out hope for Europe. Probably in vain though, IMO.

I don't think anybody is holding out hope.  All those festivals can't be rescheduled for this year.  So what to do about all those tickets they sold and no longer have the money to pay people back?  Could consider what the sports people are going to do, play without fans in the stands.  There's still options.

And webcast all the shows.

[allwaystired]

They need to announce something asap though.

The tour is supposed to start very soon.....decisions must have been made at this point.

[cineater]

I feel like with their reluctance to cancel that Mexico show, they are still holding out hope for Europe. Probably in vain though, IMO.

I don't think anybody is holding out hope.  All those festivals can't be rescheduled for this year.  So what to do about all those tickets they sold and no longer have the money to pay people back?  Could consider what the sports people are going to do, play without fans in the stands.  There's still options.

And webcast all the shows.

It's an option.  I saw the Dead reunion shows that way.  The price was significantly less so there's that gap between what people paid for a ticket and what they can now charge for a webcast.  Still options with all of that.  I would think though the option to do your own webcasts on the side might be restricted.

[cineater]

They need to announce something asap though.

The tour is supposed to start very soon.....decisions must have been made at this point.

A decision doesn't mean the path ahead is cleared.

[allwaystired]

They need to announce something asap though.

The tour is supposed to start very soon.....decisions must have been made at this point.

A decision doesn't mean the path ahead is cleared.

True.....but I think it would be good to update people on what is going on even if it's just "these shows aren't happening, we're working on options, bear with us".

People may well think that these shows are going ahead and might even (stupid and illegal as it would be) try to start travelling to them soon. They're getting close now.

[cineater]

They need to announce something asap though.

The tour is supposed to start very soon.....decisions must have been made at this point.

A decision doesn't mean the path ahead is cleared.

True.....but I think it would be good to update people on what is going on even if it's just "these shows aren't happening, we're working on options, bear with us".

People may well think that these shows are going ahead and might even (stupid and illegal as it would be) try to start travelling to them soon. They're getting close now.

If they missed the announcement the world is shut down, I don't think they are going to get the update.    Fucking deadheads.

[allwaystired]

They need to announce something asap though.

The tour is supposed to start very soon.....decisions must have been made at this point.

A decision doesn't mean the path ahead is cleared.

True.....but I think it would be good to update people on what is going on even if it's just "these shows aren't happening, we're working on options, bear with us".

People may well think that these shows are going ahead and might even (stupid and illegal as it would be) try to start travelling to them soon. They're getting close now.

If they missed the announcement the world is shut down, I don't think they are going to get the update.    Fucking deadheads.

But it's pretty misleading for GNR to still be selling tickets to shows such as the Austria one which is categorically not happening isn't it? What on earth is going on there?

[jarmo]

GN'R isn't selling tickets. That's handled by Ticketmaster and companies like that.

Since the shows haven't been canceled/postponed, they'll probably remain on sale.... And IF they're postponed, the original tickets will probably be valid for the new dates.




/jarmo

[allwaystired]

GN'R isn't selling tickets. That's handled by Ticketmaster and companies like that.

Since the shows haven't been canceled/postponed, they'll probably remain on sale.... And IF they're postponed, the original tickets will probably be valid for the new dates.




/jarmo

Yeah, fair point - it's Ticketmaster.

But surely there's no 'ifs' on a lot of these shows? Germany has a ban on all live music until the end of August, Austria until at least July for example. So the GNR shows simply cannot happen, which is why I find Ticketmaster still saying they are absolutely baffling.

[jarmo]

The way I see it, is that the ticketing system will sell tickets until the show has either happened, or won't happen at all.

So the shows you mentioned, could still happen. At a later date.

But since this is affecting a lot of tours/concerts, it's not just as easy as postponing/canceling one show or tour. It's a lot of logistics involved.



/jarmo

[allwaystired]

The way I see it, is that the ticketing system will sell tickets until the show has either happened, or won't happen at all.

So the shows you mentioned, could still happen. At a later date.

But since this is affecting a lot of tours/concerts, it's not just as easy as postponing/canceling one show or tour. It's a lot of logistics involved.



/jarmo

Got you. I think I'm just a bit worried from a personal point of view about my plans......hopefully we'll know before too long?

[Mysteron]

It's a shame Livenation and Ticketmaster are being irresponsible with ticket sales.

The tickets themselves are fine, but the transport to the venues is the problem, that is where people will find trouble getting refunds

Social distancing could be a thing until 2022, coronaviruses have been around for almost 100 years, there has never been a vaccine or a cure. It's pie in the sky to expect anything quickly, it will be control over hospital intake and herd immunity that will be the ultimate cure, or hope that it mutates into something less.