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Title: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 05:20:28 PM
Dark Day in Entertainment world

We've just learned Michael Jackson was taken by ambulance to a hospital in Los Angeles ... and we're told it was cardiac arrest and that paramedics administered CPR in the ambulance.

He was picked up at his home around 20 minutes ago -- we're told his mother is on the way to visit him.

UPDATE: The 911 call came in at 12:21PM at his Holmby Hills home in L.A.

UPDATE: A Jackson family member tells TMZ Michael is in "really bad shape" and the brothers are headed to UCLA.

UPDATE: We just got off the phone with Joe Jackson, Michael's dad, who says "he is not doing well."




LOS ANGELES -- Pop star Michael Jackson has been taken to UCLA Medical Center by ambulance suffering from cardiac arrest, fire officials confirm.

Los Angeles Fire Department Captain Steve Ruda said paramedics responded to a 911 call at Jackson's home around 12:26 p.m. He was not breathing when they arrived. The paramedics performed CPR and took him to UCLA Medical Center, Ruda says.

It's unclear what he was being treated for or what his current condition may be.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: loretian on June 25, 2009, 05:48:01 PM
According to TMZ, he died from the cardiac arrest.

Quote
We've just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.

Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon and paramedics were unable to revive him. We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.

Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

Jackson had 13 number one hits during his solo career.
Via tmz.com (http://tmz.com)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: jarmo on June 25, 2009, 05:56:03 PM
Michael Jackson Dies

Posted Jun 25th 2009 5:20PM by TMZ Staff

Michael JacksonWe've just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.

Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hill home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.

Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

Jackson had 13 number one hits during his solo career.

Story developing...

http://www.tmz.com/




R.I.P.  :(




/jarmo


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jagged Little Pill on June 25, 2009, 05:59:27 PM
Wow. That's all I can say.


First Farrah and now him. How sad.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GNR_Green on June 25, 2009, 06:01:07 PM
Still waiting for a 'better' source than that but if true it's a sad day.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on June 25, 2009, 06:05:48 PM
RIP Mr. Jackson. Very unexpected.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 06:09:07 PM
Just an unbelievable tragic life this guy had. the highest of highs, lowest of lows and he was about to rewrite history in a few weeks.

He passed a 4 and a half hour physical in March.

Just speculating but u have to wonder if this is a Heath Ledger type situation.




Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jimmy? on June 25, 2009, 06:09:32 PM
RIP MJ


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: slash666 on June 25, 2009, 06:10:28 PM
Wow that caught me off guard, people can say all they want about his personal life but no one can deny the guy was a musical legend.

RIP


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on June 25, 2009, 06:12:33 PM
This really saddens me.  I hate to see peaceful people go.  I hope it's not final...but from what I've read, it looks like the end.

Damn.  This is incredibly sad.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on June 25, 2009, 06:16:32 PM
It doesn't seem 100% confirmed just now. Fox News still aren't saying he's dead...


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Alfie Bones on June 25, 2009, 06:17:33 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-dies-death-dead-cardiac-arrest/

 :'(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on June 25, 2009, 06:18:10 PM
I read a Yahoo news story a few minutes before I posted originally, that said "Updated 4 minutes ago:  Michael Jackson Dead."  Hopefully that was premature.  Terrible news.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: cineater on June 25, 2009, 06:19:10 PM
Wow, that's a shocker.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on June 25, 2009, 06:20:15 PM
I think the scariest part of the write-up was when they said, "He lived most of his last years in virtual seclusion..." or something like that.  I don't ever like seeing that and thinking about other certain famous musicians.  It saddens me.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Glow Inc. on June 25, 2009, 06:23:53 PM
Yeah...This is real sad
I still can't believe it.  :-[

RIP


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Smoking Guns on June 25, 2009, 06:36:45 PM
He was the biggest musical entertainer of my life time.  So full of talent and probably the best pure entertainer I have ever seen.  Elvis, the Beatles, and Micheal Jackson, all in a league of their own.  When he was on, nobody was better.  He was only 50, that just a few years older than Axl..  This sucks... :'(

Rest in Peace MJ.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: djcleaver on June 25, 2009, 06:44:29 PM
totally shocking news.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: ppbebe on June 25, 2009, 06:47:13 PM
rip.

Your 'I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Clause' is forever my fav Christmas song.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jimmy? on June 25, 2009, 06:55:43 PM
Such a shame his career has been overshadowed by the paedophilia accusations. Hopefully now he can be remembered for his amazing musical career.....


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Rockin' Rose on June 25, 2009, 06:56:07 PM
Rest In Peace Michael

You rocked my world


 :'(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 06:56:39 PM
I hate fucking news organizations

on reports of his death they have to throw in about his skin and nose etc

who gives a fuck about that shit?

The guy is dead.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: zosobob6 on June 25, 2009, 06:59:44 PM
RIP :-\


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Smoking Guns on June 25, 2009, 07:00:11 PM
MJ was always a huge fan of GNR....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueh4i1wwKrg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_cRk5ZqWvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqDOsKKhb88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSENHI5xOQE


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Grouse on June 25, 2009, 07:01:11 PM
Oh wow I'm shocked  :o, that's about all I can say right now.

Edit: weird thing is that cnn are now saying that he is in a coma...


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: KIKO2K6 on June 25, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
Moonwalker !
 

He was one of the most talented performer, musical entertainer  of his  time .

He took the music video to another level  with TRILHER  !


R.I.P


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Smoking Guns on June 25, 2009, 07:06:43 PM
He was larger than life... I mean, he had a fucking amusement park at his house... who does that??  One of the most talented entertainers EVER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zpTQCQEFhg


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: mrlee on June 25, 2009, 07:11:37 PM
man that sucks!!! He was a talented guy.

Theres popstars like Britney Spears who are no talent fucks.

Then theres the real popstars, who are also artists like Mr Jackson.

He reinvented himself countless times and always brought in talented people to work with him!!!

One of my favorites is Dirty Diana, Steve Stevens FTW!

R.I.P


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Smoking Guns on June 25, 2009, 07:16:42 PM
man that sucks!!! He was a talented guy.

Theres popstars like Britney Spears who are no talent fucks.

Then theres the real popstars, who are also artists like Mr Jackson.

He reinvented himself countless times and always brought in talented people to work with him!!!

One of my favorites is Dirty Diana, Steve Stevens FTW!

R.I.P

Damn right mrlee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hg-IRZk4D0


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 07:22:38 PM
The dude seriously glided like he was on ice. I've never seen someone dance that way with so much agility and I don't know what u call it.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Lara on June 25, 2009, 07:24:36 PM
For me, he was by far the most talented person of his time.

Music wouldn't be the same without him. It won't.

Such a great loss... R.I.P.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: sixgnr on June 25, 2009, 07:26:18 PM
It's a shock for me! I'm really really sad.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Grouse on June 25, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
I found the comment by the family's attorney about certain enablers fascinating. Seems like they were forcing MJ to do those shows.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 07:32:56 PM
must be horrifying living your life in a cage like jackson did. People in vans camped out in front of his house just to get a glimpse of him. not being able to go anywhere or do anything. Everyone glamorizes fame etc, but in reality, when u reach his level, it must make u feel almost like a prisoner.

then the bullshit allegations etc he faced.

I've always been a defender of his and I hope he can RIP.




Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: DarkFairy on June 25, 2009, 07:34:37 PM
RIP  :'(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on June 25, 2009, 07:38:52 PM
RIP Michael


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: FunkyMonkey on June 25, 2009, 07:59:23 PM
A lot of people commenting on Twitter, this from Sebastian Bach...

RIP Michael Jackson .to my friend Jermaine : I am truly sorry for your loss. what a day of loss #fb

R.I.P. Farrah Fawcett My first crush. Another Important person in life gone. Sucks when u get used to it #fb



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on June 25, 2009, 08:01:27 PM
I'm in total and utter shock. I'm devestated. Rest in peace, the greatest entertainer of all time. A true musical genius, brilliant performer and wonderful person.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GypsySoul on June 25, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
God bless his soul.

RIP


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AtariLegend on June 25, 2009, 08:29:59 PM
"Thriller", "Bad" and "Dangerous" ect... are some of the greatest albums ever recorded.

Sincerest sympathies to his family and friends. Not nice, not nice at all.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Voodoochild on June 25, 2009, 08:46:52 PM
RIP... he'll be trully missed by me and my wife as huge fans. :(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: jazjme on June 25, 2009, 08:59:20 PM
IM in shock, utter shock, RIP, a true musical genius has passed. :(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: King Axl on June 25, 2009, 09:02:01 PM
I had a copy of 'Thriller', who didn't?

Despite his increasingly bizarre behavior over the last fifteen to twenty years--the botched plastic surgery and the sexual abuse allegations--Michael Jackson was an icon to those of us who grew up in the 1980's in the same way Elvis and The Beatles were to the generation before us.

One of a kind, he was.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on June 25, 2009, 09:03:52 PM
Thriller was the first album I ever bought.  Dangerous was underrated imo.

RIP Michael.  Gone Too Soon.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Chief on June 25, 2009, 09:08:08 PM
This is really sad and shocking... damn.
RIP


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Vicious Wishes on June 25, 2009, 09:24:17 PM
Unbelievable. I just heard, cardiac arrest. What a loss.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 09:24:43 PM
a Family friend on the news said that MJ's enablers made Anna Nicole Smith's look like nothing.

So it will be very unfortunate if these hanger ons and enablers helped lead to his death


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: w.axl.rose on June 25, 2009, 09:40:38 PM
I just saw the helicopter that was carrying Micheal's body outside my house. Got the chills for a moment.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 25, 2009, 10:08:13 PM
So so sad, big part of my life, especially the 80's, but even the 70's had the Jackson Five, he will also be greatly missed in my family as well.  Loved the song "Ben".  Rest well now Michael, and my prayers to his family.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 25, 2009, 10:24:18 PM
I've cried like a baby all day while listening to Thriller.

R.I.P. Mike'.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: FunkyMonkey on June 25, 2009, 10:49:14 PM
A video statement from Jermaine Jackson...

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=971e244a-b5db-4185-bafd-b0aca379496c


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: FunkyMonkey on June 25, 2009, 11:14:06 PM
VAN HALEN, QUEEN, POISON, VELVET REVOLVER Members Comment On MICHAEL JACKSON's Passing - June 25, 2009

Members of VAN HALEN, QUEEN, POISON, SHINEDOWN and VELVET REVOLVER have issued statements regarding the passing of pop music legend Michael Jackson, who died earlier today (Thursday, June 25) at age 50.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=122589





Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: journey on June 25, 2009, 11:17:10 PM
Thriller was the first album I ever bought. 

RIP Michael.  Gone Too Soon.

Thriller was my first album too.

He'll be greatly missed.

RIP.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on June 25, 2009, 11:40:41 PM
This is so, so sad for me.  It was so shocking at first, but now that it has sunk in, I just can't keep myself from crying.  I feel like a huge part of my generation's culture has died.  He was our Elvis...  Maybe now he will find the peace he was searching for.  He was the most amazing entertainer our generation ever had the opportunity to see, and this is such a loss. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 25, 2009, 11:41:40 PM
Another amazing performer I never got the pleasure to see live.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on June 26, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
The dude seriously glided like he was on ice. I've never seen someone dance that way with so much agility and I don't know what u call it.

I know.  Once you started watching him dance, you just couldn't stop.  He was amazing.  I had my students watch some video of him moonwalking once in a speech class, (I tried to incorporate it into the whole "How to be a Great Performer" thing, but really, I just wanted to expose them to his talent because all they knew we're the bad things), and they we're beside themselves.   They THOUGHT Chris Brown could dance until they saw the man he learned it all from!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Smoking Guns on June 26, 2009, 12:20:59 AM
I was never a fan of his, but I am so sad.

In a way though, he's free.  I don't think he had a very happy life.  His dad would beat him before shows when he was a kid.  He had all these trials, which are never easy on anyone.  Tack on the health problems and money problems, and it's a wonder he made it so far.

But I never got that "phony" vibe I get from other pop stars.  He seemed pretty real.

Hope he is happy wherever he is now.

Much respect to Michael Jackson.

In many ways, him and Axl have a lot of similarities.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 26, 2009, 12:46:23 AM
Larry King just called Sean Puff Daddy Combs "P. Daddy" TWICE!

Brightest part of my day.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on June 26, 2009, 12:51:16 AM
There was another thread about the saddest tragedy in music... I'm thinking for me and my generation, this  very well may be it.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Cristina on June 26, 2009, 02:21:08 AM
Very  very sad news.

R.I.P


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Bodhi on June 26, 2009, 02:36:00 AM
R.I.P...he was the greatest entertainer in my lifetime...without a doubt... :(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: suicide on June 26, 2009, 03:24:20 AM
MJ was an amazing artist and performer. He will be greatly missed!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: axljungle on June 26, 2009, 04:46:38 AM
Sad News. Incredible, I saw it in the news yesterday, and now, I can't believe it.

Dead Jackson, but now, start de legend!!  :peace:

R.I.P. Michael Jackson, Good bye man


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on June 26, 2009, 05:19:06 AM
Long before I discovered the likes of Guns N' Roses, Aerosmith, Nine Inch Nails and all, there was Michael Jackson.  He was the person who introduced me to music, something that over the years has become something I could never live without, and he was my first hero.  The first gig I ever went to was Michael Jackson at Wembley Stadium during the Dangerous tour in 1992... sounds corny, but it changed my life.
It's been very hard for me to witness his decline in recent years, amongst allegations that I've never believed, bullshit from the media, and seeing how fragile he had become.  I was extremely excited to hear about his performances in London this year, and though I never got tickets was looking forward to him getting onto that stage and proving his critics wrong.

And then the news came last night, and I suddenly understood the kind of hurt that some people felt when Princess Diana died.  I'd always been critical of people who had such an emotional bond to someone they'd never met... but now I get it.  The man meant the world to me.

All I have to say, is I hope the people who have made his life a hell, and were more interested in the dollar signs in their eyes than a man's health (both mental and physical) have enough of a conscience to realise what they fucked up.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on June 26, 2009, 06:19:39 AM
This is a pre-emptive plea to not turn this thread into a fight... please.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: DeN on June 26, 2009, 06:25:50 AM
all my youth...Rest In Peace Michael...and thank you for the good time.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Red1 on June 26, 2009, 07:03:18 AM
RIP MJ  :'(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 26, 2009, 07:06:19 AM
This thread isn't going to be a fight. Don't worry

I just never can understand how people can be so heartless and classless

Just like how people in the articles have to throw in jabs and shit at the guy, I mean who cares if he had plastic surgery and shit like that?

He had a skin condition which makes blotchy white patches in your skin. So it isn't like he was trying to be a white guy. he had a disease.


U can believe what u want about the molestation shit but I will always believe he was innocent and taken advantage of.

Child Molesters are predators and they can't stop or help themselves. So if Michael were truly a pedophile, there would've been a hell of a lot more than 2 kids accuse him of it, the last was definitely a fraud.*



so please, i beg everyone on here, if u got some joke or some negative shit to add, please just click off the thread and refrain.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on June 26, 2009, 08:20:11 AM
Thriller was the 1st piece of music I owned ( on casette)


People are now remembering how talented he was.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: mrlee on June 26, 2009, 08:24:57 AM
wow, here in the UK.

Literally EVERY music channel on Sky is "Michael Jackson:tribute" Hes on every channel.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Prez on June 26, 2009, 09:16:08 AM
RIP Wacko Jacko

I don't have any album of him but respect him as an artist. He is propably the biggest icon of pop/rock history!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: jarmo on June 26, 2009, 09:32:18 AM
I don't have any album of him but respect him as an artist. He is propably the biggest icon of pop/rock history!

Yeah, same here.


Never was a fan, but growing up in the 80s, he was the guy everybody tried to beat.

Not only sales wise. His music videos and even dance moves.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Pinball Wizard on June 26, 2009, 10:02:01 AM
It's a sad day, indeed. We've lost one of the biggest personalities of the last century...love him or hate him, you can't deny how important he was for pop culture and general entertainment. I was just watching the "They Don't Really Care About Us" video, that he shot here in Brazil..sad, really sad.  :'(

I wasn't a Michael Jackson fan. I always liked his music and respected him as a musician and as a person; I never believed in anything that press tried to sell him for, everytime I saw him giving an interview, or something, what I'd see was a guy that's being truthfull about his statements. CNN just showed a clip of an interview with Ed Bradley On '60 Minutes, regarding the last lawsuit and the whole sexual molesting bullshit. When asked what would he say to his fans - the ones who supported him and the ones who might still have doubts - he answered: "(...)But if you really want to know about me, there's a song I wrote, which is the most honest song I've ever written. It's the most autobiographical song I've ever written. It's called, 'Childhood.' They should listen to it. That's the one they really should listen to.(...)". And, reading the lyrics of this song, you can truly see hoe honest he was being about it. And going through what he went when he was still a kid...that can't be easy to anyone.

He wasn't perfect, he wasn't a saint, but he was far from being that monster people tried to turn him into. Anyway. I wasn't a fan of him(I think 'fan' is such a strong word to describe your passion for something/someone), but I liked and respected him very much. I grew up seeing him on MTV, listenning to his music...I actually sang "Beat It" on a band I had when I was on High School! He was as present in our lives as the air we breathe...

Rest in Peace Michael Jackson! We're gonna miss you a lot.  :'(

PS.: I know I'm gonna be bashed for this, but it's not even my intent to change the course of this thread or anything, but Michael's sudden death and how it made me fell, has made me think about how would it be when Axl's time come. I don't even wanna think about it, but I'm sure I wouldn't want him to go like this, all suddenly and with unfinished business regarding his art and everything else he's capable of. Life is precious and runs really quickly. We all should cease it while we're still living it.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on June 26, 2009, 10:19:49 AM
RIP MJ

Now i'm in no way a fan of this guy Musically or Personally(everyone has to admit he's a nut)... But I can't deny his place in music history, and what he did... It really is a shame how his profile went down SO BAD in the last 15 years.....

Jim Bob, dont worry about your Joke, the jokes been around for years, nothing changes that... I'm  interested to see if comedy central will air the south park episode within the next year or so!




Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: FunkyMonkey on June 26, 2009, 10:28:18 AM
Apparently a family member is saying that this may turn out to be an accidental drug overdose.  Very sad if true.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: LittleFly on June 26, 2009, 10:31:46 AM
I also was never a fan of his.  But when I saw that he had passed away, I thought to myself that this is a big one.  He really is iconic.  I say that in the present tense, because his image and work will survive his body.  I saw a quote in the news....someone said that this is like the news of JFK dying.  Everyone will remember where they were when they found out he had died.

I hope he's at peace now.  He had a hard life, and did alot of crazy things to deal with it.  I really do think he was a kid at heart.  I don't have a firm opinion on the molestation things, but my gut feeling is that he never did anything to a chid on purpose.  How the kids felt about it is a different story. I tend to act childish, and I make damn sure I think before I act or speak when around children  What I think of as innocent might be seen as a offensive to a kid, or to an adult when the child tells someone else.  

I've already seen the jokes about how he died and why.  I don't mind the jokes, personally, and I laugh at them. I'm afraid there is gonna be alot of it in the coming days and months though.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: bolton on June 26, 2009, 11:18:31 AM
RIP


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Shaggins13 on June 26, 2009, 11:36:59 AM
I have to agree with MrRedfield: Well before I was into GNR, Bon Jovi, U2 or any other rock band of the 1980s, Michael Jackson was the one & only artist that I listened to.  His poster was on my wall.  There are so, so many photos of me in the zipper covered "Beat It" jacket (a present I got at 7 years old), white socks & black loafers, and video footage of me attempting the moonwalk on my parents' kitchen floor!  Even as I got older & branched out to other forms of music, there was always some strange connection to Michael as he represented a piece of all of us who grew up in the 80s' childhoods.  Am I making sense?  He was our John Lennon...

Michael's music was in many ways, the soundtrack to our lives.  We all knew the words to the songs, the melodies & the music, and played for hours working on the dance moves he displayed in his videos & live performances.

I now have 3 children who are all trying to understand why the news is making such a big deal about his passing.  I found an old DVD of Michael's videos & also you tube'd some of his best live performances.  My 10 year old daughter is completely blown away about how well he both sang & danced and said that "he should have kept making music, he's so much better than anyone else is!" 

Try explaining to a 10 year old about molestation accusations, bankruptcies, failed marriages, plastic surgery, etc.  After these conversations, I think most importantly, Michael represented a time where as kids there was still some innocence left in this crazy, fucked up world. 

I'm at a loss as to why I am so upset for someone I never met, but I feel as though a piece of my youth has died.

Rest In Peace, Michael.  Your legacy - for all of the right[i[/i] reasons - will live forever.  May your children never be exposed to the horrors that the predators & bloodsuckers of the world forced upon you. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: gilld1 on June 26, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
Just like a couple of others have said, before I beame a rock fan I was an MJ fan.  When I was in 5th or 6th grade Thriller ruled the world.  The videos were awesome and groundbreaking.  The zipper jacket kicked ass (I got one for Christmas around that time).  The moonwalk on the grammy's.

I would guess that this is similar to what prior generations felt when they lost Elvis and Sinatra.  The loss of an icon is never an easy thing to get over.

I'll admit I laughed at a lot of the jokes about him in recent years but I always thought about what a sad decline that we all had to witness too.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GeorgeSteele on June 26, 2009, 12:12:11 PM

Having grown up in the 80s, I remember Michael Jackson as being the center of the entertainment universe.  I never had any of his albums, but if I heard any of his songs on the radio, I turned it up; if I heard any of his songs at a night club, I got up and danced; if I saw him perform on TV or otherwise, I was mesmermized. 

RIP, the man was a once-in-a-lifetime talent.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Giant_Robot on June 26, 2009, 12:20:19 PM
R.I.P Michael Jackson


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Smoking Guns on June 26, 2009, 12:32:15 PM
I don't have any album of him but respect him as an artist. He is propably the biggest icon of pop/rock history!

Yeah, same here.


Never was a fan, but growing up in the 80s, he was the guy everybody tried to beat.

Not only sales wise. His music videos and even dance moves.




/jarmo

I would say his videos influenced GNR to up the ante with their epic videos as well... 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: gilee7 on June 26, 2009, 01:01:06 PM
"Bad" was my favorite song when I was a kid. I wore the shit out of that cassette tape. I remember when he performed at the halftime show of the Superbowl. I was only 6 or 7 then; I didn't know the rules of football, but I stayed up past my bedtime just so I could see Michael perform.

I cried yesterday when I turned on the T.V. and saw that he had passed away. I've been listening to his albums all this morning and I've nearly lost it again many times. He gave us some of the greatest music of all time. It doesn't matter if you're into rock, rap, pop, country, whatever . . . You can't deny the genius of Michael Jackson. "Beat It," "Billie Jean," "Thriller," "Bad," "Dirty Diana," there's so many timeless songs that guy created.

I've always defended Michael Jackson when people I knew talked shit about him. I hope that when people look back on his legacy, that they don't obsess over the personal stuff in his life, but instead focus on his amazing music. He was one of the most talented people this world has ever seen. A brilliant performer, singer, dancer, songwriter . . . The guy could do it all. No one will ever come within a thousand miles of accomplishing what Michael Jackson did in his career.

R.I.P.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Izzy on June 26, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
Grew up loving his music

He's a true legend

The world's lost one of its greatest sons

We'll never surpass him


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: estebanf on June 26, 2009, 01:37:48 PM
''Dangerous'' was the first CD I bought, going myself to the music store, paying and all the ritual. Its one of the best albums I've ever heard, and MJ is a part of my life since that day.

He was unique, a brilliant musician and performer, a genius. I hope to God he rests in peace, and I wish the worst things possible in this world to the sonofabitches who ruined his career and his life.

Thank you for everything, Michael. You'll live forever inside our hearts.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: crazycheryl on June 26, 2009, 02:04:10 PM
I never was a fan but definitely grew up with his music. I used to imitate his moves in dance clubs.  :) His death is very shocking to me because he was so young. I do hope he is at rest finally.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on June 26, 2009, 02:06:02 PM
Reading people talking about what MJ meant to them kinda makes me wish there was someone with that kind of impact for this generation...

I forget who it was, but someone talking about him on the news called him "the last great pop star" or words to that effect.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Izzy on June 26, 2009, 02:17:15 PM
Reading people talking about what MJ meant to them kinda makes me wish there was someone with that kind of impact for this generation...

I forget who it was, but someone talking about him on the news called him "the last great pop star" or words to that effect.

Indeed

Anyone that grew up in the 80's grew up with MJ - thats the way it was across the western world

I suppose its the same as those grewing up in the 60's with the Beatles

I had tickets to see him next month - i never ever thought he'd be well enough to do the shows, i knew he'd cancel

...but cancelling a show still left the door open....there is such a terrible finality about death

We'll never get that one last great song we all want

I think we all wanted him to recapture the glory once more - even if he then prompty retired

In the end it was a downhill slope without interuption - would have been nice to see one last 'win'


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on June 26, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
I guess he went out on something of a high note. There were so many people wanting to see him live that he had to extend the 02 dates to 50 shows.

He was preparing for something big, not living away in seclusion somewhere.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Izzy on June 26, 2009, 02:55:01 PM
He was rehersing for the tour this week - those that saw him practice said he hadnt lost a step

The doctor that was prescribing him his various chemicals has vanished

Picture emerging....

To begin with i was pretty sad by all this- now i'm pissed off too, pissed off that some quack gave an overdose to a guy who was just weeks from blowing us all away live


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on June 26, 2009, 02:55:55 PM
His life was a great American tragedy IMO. Thriller was a great albumn. I keep hearing his songs in my head today. I was truly shocked when i heard that he died. I don't think he was a pedophile, just a big kid who didn't want to grow up. I hope his kids are OK. He was so gorgeous during the THRILLER years, I'll never understand why he overdid the plastic surgery so much.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Grouse on June 26, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
He was rehersing for the tour this week - those that saw him practice said he hadnt lost a step

The doctor that was prescribing him his various chemicals has vanished

Picture emerging....

To begin with i was pretty sad by all this- now i'm pissed off too, pissed off that some quack gave an overdose to a guy who was just weeks from blowing us all away live

Just to add to this post, Apparently the police have confiscated a car that was on the property with stuff in it that could be used to administer medicine. Gotta wonder if someone fucked up and is responsible for giving MJ an overdose...


*Edit: here's the 911 call that was made, http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/062609_michael_2.mp3 (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/062609_michael_2.mp3)

Kinda weird the doctor is dodging the question like that.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 26, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
I thought about MJ all last night and he was the first person I thought about when I woke up, and I am still thinking about him.  Like I said before, I was never really a fan, but I watched his music videos on various channels last night, I even imitated some of his moves this morning.  (Don't laugh!  ;))

What a sad story.  I hate the people that brought him down.  Heads will roll.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Bodhi on June 26, 2009, 04:53:21 PM
I was OBSESSED with Michael Jackson when I was 9 years old...I owned all his albums and knew everything you could possibly know about the guy.  Then "Use Your Illusion" and the "Black" album came out and GNR and Metallica toured together.  It was that summer that  my musical interest and focus completely shifted forever.  I have always remained a fan of Michael Jackson, he is the greatest solo artist the world will ever know(along with Elvis). 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Verasa on June 26, 2009, 05:30:00 PM
RIP  :(

True musical legend, a innovator.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: ppbebe on June 26, 2009, 05:39:14 PM
I guess he went out on something of a high note. There were so many people wanting to see him live that he had to extend the 02 dates to 50 shows.

He was preparing for something big, not living away in seclusion somewhere.

I read that it was the management that did that and he was pissed off about that as he just wanted to do 10 ish shows there.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: ppbebe on June 26, 2009, 06:14:20 PM
A lot of people commenting on Twitter,

saw comments by mia lillyallen and robin.

and the world mourning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8120324.stm


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 26, 2009, 06:23:28 PM
I was OBSESSED with Michael Jackson when I was 9 years old...I owned all his albums and knew everything you could possibly know about the guy.  Then "Use Your Illusion" and the "Black" album came out and GNR and Metallica toured together.  It was that summer that  my musical interest and focus completely shifted forever.  I have always remained a fan of Michael Jackson, he is the greatest solo artist the world will ever know(along with Elvis). 
Yeah I was obsessed with Michael when I was like 7 or so, somewhere in the mid 80's.  I remember watching the "Thriller" video on VHS with my older sister and her friends.  That was some scary stuff for me being so young, but I was a huge fan from then on out.  I had his white glove with the silver beads on it.  I had a bunch of books about him and of course his tapes.  But as I grew older I veered towards the rock genre and kind of left Michael behind, though I still appreciated his work.  I was saddened to hear of his passing.  Hopefully he's at peace now.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 26, 2009, 06:53:24 PM
The Sun is reporting his doctor shot him up with Demerol  which led to the cardiac arrest

Demerol is a pain killer kind of like Morphine.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: sixgnr on June 26, 2009, 08:07:03 PM
I'm really really sad about Micheal! I's been a great unbelievable schock.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Lara on June 26, 2009, 08:58:31 PM
I've been on YouTube for tha last couple of hours and I just can't believe how many great MJ songs there are that I had completely forgotten about!  :D

Each and everyone is so much better and different than all the bullshit that's coming out lately, yet so contemporary.

And don't even get me started on the videos.

Who can make music like that?

I feel so fortunate having grown up with MJ, considering that today's kids grow up with RnB so-called stars.

Although I know he probably died from a medicine or sth, I believe the real cause of death is cannibalism and the media, the managers, the agents, the haters, the fans, the entourage and everyone who knew who he was all have their share of responsability.

This is what usually happens with larger-than-life people.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: w.axl.rose on June 27, 2009, 01:52:37 AM
anyone know if Chris Tucker has said anything about Michaels death?


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 27, 2009, 03:12:06 AM
I haven't heard anything from he or Macauley Culkin which is weird.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: metallex78 on June 27, 2009, 04:11:47 AM
Have been watching videos being played on Aussie cable tv, and man, there's no denying he had a shitload of good songs.

RIP


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jim on June 27, 2009, 09:41:29 AM
Like many, I wasn't a fan of his, at least not in the sense that I owned any of his albums. But I always liked his songs, the songs that I knew... All of them, pretty much. Maybe I should finally buy Thriller, now.

I'm hoping that we see a tribute from Buckethead at some point... His tribute to ODB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6nxgSAeHw) was spot on.

RIP.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 27, 2009, 10:53:37 AM
I was OBSESSED with Michael Jackson when I was 9 years old...I owned all his albums and knew everything you could possibly know about the guy.  Then "Use Your Illusion" and the "Black" album came out and GNR and Metallica toured together.  It was that summer that  my musical interest and focus completely shifted forever.  I have always remained a fan of Michael Jackson, he is the greatest solo artist the world will ever know(along with Elvis). 
Although I was around 12 when Elvis passed and living not far from Nashville at the time, Michaels passing is touching home in the same way as it did so many years ago.  Hell I was so exposed to Elvis through my parents, so even at the age of 12, I remember all to well, the effects his passing had on the world, not that I thought that would be the last time I felt such shock, but wished it were.  Can't seem to get this out of my waking mind.  Huge Huge loss....I already miss Michael, though unique in his ways, his talents seemed endless.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: russtcb on June 27, 2009, 11:01:52 AM
RIP Michael.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 27, 2009, 11:28:48 AM
Part of what makes his passing hit so close to home is like him or not he was a HUGE part of our life history.  He's an icon, one of the most famous and recognizable people in the world.  He was a brilliant entertainer and performer.  As "weird" as he seemed he was a deeply caring person with a good heart.  Not like the stars of today.  Again I'm not saying the man didn't have his faults, those are well documented, but he was a revolutionary.  There will never be another like him.  Part of our youth has been lost, which is sad.  No artist will have families gather around the TV in primetime to watch the premier of one of their music videos.  In part because things just aren't done that way anymore.  Those things leak to the internet or debut there.  It's the sign of the times, and that's sad too in a way.  You long for the good old days when such things were an EVENT.  But Michael Jackson was that big and that important that he could make the world pause and take notice.  He really hasn't been the same the last 15 years health or otherwise and he lived a glorious yet tortured life.  Hopefully he's finally completely at peace.  He certainly left his mark and will never be forgotten.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 27, 2009, 04:09:41 PM
If u think about it, there is no other artist that comes close to getting the attention or just the pandemonium he would stir up when he'd perform or what not.

people would absolutely lose their minds. I've never seen anything like it.

Big thing about Jackson that goes unnoticed a lot is, he was  a songwriter and a musician as well. Not some studio created fraud that sang nothing but other people's songs crafted for him.

No body could touch him dancing and his voice was just perfection.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Mysteron on June 27, 2009, 04:19:00 PM
Demerol is a pain killer kind of like Morphine.

It is a derivative of morphine. It was once handed out freely in American and Canadian hospitals to those in severe pain. It has less side effects than morphine which is why it was used, but it was found later on that it reacted badly with alcoholic beverages and acidic foods (sometimes fatally). It is now not used unless necessary.

There are alot of money grabbing Hollywood doctors who need to be struck off.





Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 27, 2009, 04:54:27 PM
Look at the media now.

The very same people that tried to bring him down are now playing nice and acting sad.

Ugh.  No wonder our favorite redhead just dropped out of sight, they were going to try and chop him down in 94.

The LAPD is interviewing the butcher, err, doctor now.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Dark Angel on June 27, 2009, 05:12:38 PM
MJ and Freddie Mercury. Didnt know they had done some together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9_BwMtPeWU

RIP to both  :'(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Is he struggling? on June 27, 2009, 06:02:40 PM


"THE nanny who became ?mother? to Michael Jackson?s three children has told how she regularly had to pump his stomach to remove dangerous cocktails of drugs.

Grace Rwaramba, 42, who flew from London to Los Angeles yesterday in the hope of being reunited with his children, has given a graphic account of the singer?s increasingly desperate final months.

She paints a grim picture of Jackson, sometimes penniless but deluded about his ?riches?, leading a nomadic life, moving from country to country and hotel to hotel, before allegedly falling under the increasing influence of the Nation of Islam, the extremist sect.

Jackson is believed to have been taking up to eight different drugs a day, including three narcotic painkillers. Rwaramba, who is expected to be interviewed by detectives about whether she helped administer the drugs, said: ?I had to pump his stomach many times. He always mixed so much of it.

?There was one period that it was so bad that I didn?t let the children see him . . . He always ate too little and mixed too much.?

The nanny says she once called in the singer?s mother, Katherine, and sister, Janet, to attempt an ?intervention?, trying to persuade the singer to come to terms with his addiction. Instead Jackson turned on her, accusing her of betraying him. ?He didn?t want to listen; that was one of the times he let me go,? she said.

Rwaramba, who is from Rwanda, worked for Jackson for more than a decade, starting as an office assistant before becoming nanny to his children, Michael Jr, known as Prince, aged 12; Paris, 11; and Prince Michael II, 7, nicknamed Blanket to distinguish him from his brother.

She was dismissed for a final time last December but still went back to see the children. When she visited them in April she claims Jackson was so hard up she had to buy ?happy birthday? balloons for Paris on her own credit card.

On a previous occasion he had sent her to Florence to buy antiques for $1m. ?We didn?t even have a home to live in. So we had to put the antiques in storage,? she said.

Yesterday an official with the Los Angeles police revealed the singer had become ?heavily addicted? to the powerful painkiller OxyContin and had received an injection of Demerol, another painkiller, an hour before his death. It is now almost certain the police will begin a full investigation into the singer?s death and that Rwaramba will be regarded as a witness. Coroners in the case said yesterday there was no suspicion of foul play but toxicology tests would take several weeks.

One theory is that Jackson was taking an increasing amount of drugs to combat the stress of his forthcoming 50 concerts at the O2 in London. The nanny said: ?Fifty performances! I told him . . . what are you doing? He said ?I signed only for 10?. He didn?t know what he was signing. He never did.?

Detectives have made contact with Dr Conrad Robert Murray, a cardiologist who was with Jackson at his rented mansion when he died, and have made clear they want to interview him. Police denied a report that they also want to talk to a second doctor.

Police will also want to know whether early CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation) efforts to save the singer?s life were botched. On a tape of conversations between the Jackson home and the ambulance service, one of Jackson?s staff tells the dispatcher that Jackson is on the bed and that a ?doctor is here?, meaning Murray.

Medical experts say it is usual for the patient to be on a hard surface because it is difficult to compress the chest on a soft surface. The operator told the caller to ?get him on the floor?. A car towed by police from Jackson?s home is registered in the name of Murray?s sister in Texas.

Rwaramba claims the Nation of Islam, the sect that had become increasingly prominent in Jackson?s life, told him it cost $100,000 (?60,000) a month to rent the mansion, but she believes similar properties were on the market for no more than $25,000 a month.

The sect has supplied bodyguards to the singer and allegedly intimidated auction houses that were selling Jackson memorabilia.

?Michael had no idea about money,? Rwaramba said. ?He got a proposal to make an appearance in Japan for $1m . . . By the time everyone took their share, he ended up with $200,000.? At one stage Jackson and his entourage flew economy class to Germany. One of the worst periods was after Jackson was acquitted following a five-month trial in 2005 on charges of sexually abusing a boy during sleepovers at his Neverland ranch.

Jackson, Rwaramba and the children went to Bahrain as guests of Sheikh Abdullah, a son of the king, who hoped to make a CD with the singer.

People there described yesterday how they sometimes saw Jackson walking through a mall, his frail body draped in a woman?s abaya, or robe, which covered part of the face. He drew a crowd since he did not walk like a woman.

When the singer and the sheikh fell out, Jackson and his family moved to Ireland to stay with friends of Rwaramba and then in a small house in New Jersey where Jackson slept in a downstairs room while she and the children shared a bedroom.

When Jackson did have money, he hid it in black rubbish sacks and under the carpets at the Los Angeles house. Rwaramba says Katherine Jackson rang her in London at 7am on Friday to ask where the money was, possibly to stop it being stolen.

Sources close to the Jacksons yesterday told the TMZ entertainment website, which broke the news of his death, that the children would stay with their grandmother and grandfather Joe at the family home in Encino, California.

They said: ?We?re told the family is 100% behind this - feeling that Katherine and Joe Jackson are the only people who can help the children understand who their father was, help them grieve, and teach them to deal with life in the spotlight.?

ORIGINAL MEDIA SOURCE UNKNOWN/b]


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Is he struggling? on June 27, 2009, 06:36:39 PM
If u think about it, there is no other artist that comes close to getting the attention or just the pandemonium he would stir up when he'd perform or what not.

people would absolutely lose their minds. I've never seen anything like it.


Very true. Michael understood the presentation and psychology of 'pop' better than any performer before, and (probably) since. Just listen to his albums, there's something on each one for everyone.

Wure, a lot of what he did was latching on to the latest trends and adapting them for a mass, crossover audience (a ot of his dance moves, for example, were copped from underground breakdancers). But, the crowds sure enough ate it up. Hell I ate it up too.

Sadly, I think the almost religious levels of adulation that he sought, (and got0 was his downfall. It's also fair to say that the Wacko jacko image that he cultivated in the 1980's came back to haunt him in later life, with all of the allegations and rumors that dogged him.

In his autobiography, Quincy Jones recalled visitng MJ at home in 'Neverland' whilst they were working on 'Thriller' and Michael's pet python 'Muscles' poked its head into a bird cage and swallowed a parrot whole. But the parrot got stuck in 'Muscles' throat at the point where its body was coming through the bars, so the poor python ended up trapped in the cage. That, according to Quincy, was a good analogy for MJ's career after Thriller. After he ate the bird of mega-stardom, he could not get his head out of the cage of fame.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 27, 2009, 06:49:34 PM
Another disturbing drug story.



Jesse Jackson: Family wants 2nd autopsy
AP, Jun 27, 2009 4:53 pm PDT
Michael Jackson's family wants a private autopsy of the pop icon because of unanswered questions about how he died and the doctor who was with him, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday.

"It's abnormal. He couldn't be found," he told The Associated Press from Chicago a day after visiting the Jackson family. "We don't know what happened. Was he injected and with what? All reasonable doubt should be addressed."

People close to Jackson have said since his death that they were concerned about the superstar's use of painkillers. Los Angeles County medical examiners completed an autopsy Friday and said Jackson had taken prescription medication.

Medical officials also said there was no indication of trauma or foul play. An official cause of death could take weeks.

The coroner's office released the body to Jackson's family Friday night. There was no immediate word on who would perform the second autopsy or where it might take place. Jesse Jackson described the family as grief-stricken.

"They're hurt because they lost a son. But the wound is now being kept open by the mystery and unanswered questions of the cause of death," he said.

Two days after Jackson died at a Los Angeles hospital, his most famous sister, Janet, arrived at the mansion Jackson had been renting. She drove up in a Bentley and left without addressing reporters.

Moving vans also showed up at the Jackson home, leaving about an hour later. There was no indication what they might have taken away.

There was also no word from the Jackson family on funeral plans. Many of Jackson's relatives have gathered at the family's Encino compound, caring there for Jackson's three children.

A person close to the family told The Associated Press they feel upset and angry by about a perceived lack of information about those who were around the pop superstar in his final days. The person requested anonymity because of the delicate nature of the situation.

Jackson had been rehearsing for 50 London concerts aimed at restoring his crown as the King of Pop. He died Thursday at age 50 after what his family said appeared to be cardiac arrest.

A 911 call from Jackson's rented home reported that his personal doctor was trying to revive him without success. Police have talked to Dr. Conrad Murray and have said they intend to speak with him again but have stressed he is not a criminal suspect.

Murray has yet to speak publicly since Jackson's death. Police towed his car from Jackson's home hours after Jackson died and said later it could contain medication or other evidence. Coroner's officials also said Jackson was taking prescription medication but declined to elaborate.

A lawyer at a Houston firm, William M. Stradley, confirmed Murray had hired his firm and said one of its partners was meeting with Los Angeles police on Saturday. Stradley said Murray accompanied Michael Jackson to the hospital.

"He was there from the beginning and he's been cooperating with police from the very beginning," Stradley said. "Dr. Murray has never left L.A. since Mr. Jackson's death, and he remains there."

Murray lives in Las Vegas but apparently left his practice and moved in with Jackson about two weeks ago. No one answered the door Saturday at his Las Vegas home, which property records show Murray bought five years ago for $1.1 million.

The promoter of the series of London concerts that Jackson was to begin next month has said Jackson personally insisted Murray be on the payroll.

Also Saturday, spiritual teacher Dr. Deepak Chopra said he had been concerned since 2005 that Jackson was abusing prescription painkillers and most recently spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use six months ago.

Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, asked him for painkillers in 2005 when the singer was staying with him following his trial on sex abuse allegations. Chopra said he refused. He also said the nanny of Jackson's children repeatedly contacted him with concerns about Jackson's drug use over the next four years.

He said she told him a number of doctors would visit Jackson's homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York. Whenever the subject came up, Jackson would avoid his calls, Chopra said.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: norway on June 27, 2009, 06:58:25 PM

It's very sad, and such a bad timing for death too but thats the way it is.

He was about to release a cd and do some shows.
His wishes was to do some farewell shows but they kept booking of course, money as usual.

MJ was obviously all about the performance and the music...when he did it.

Thanks for the great music and good memoriers of history! :peace:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: loretian on June 27, 2009, 11:55:21 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html)

No idea if this article is legit, but it has a lot of claims I have not read elsewhere.  Much of it is very ugly, so I won't paste it here, but beware if you read.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 28, 2009, 12:14:17 AM
Yellow journalism at its finest.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on June 28, 2009, 12:53:04 AM
Yellow journalism at its finest.

My thoughts exactly.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlsMainMan on June 28, 2009, 09:55:03 AM
I just heard on the radio that according to a source close to Michael, he made plans to leave Paul McCartney the rights to the Beatles catalogue in his will.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Lorenzo on June 28, 2009, 11:20:47 AM
RIP Michael Jackson

What makes me sick is the pictures I have seen of his children crying. I think its digusting they are still very young and just after losing their father, who would not have been happy to have their lives so badly intruded, at this difficult time.

I wish the media would let MJ's kids out of this.

MJ was found innocent of indecent behaviour but the media never let him forget it.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on June 28, 2009, 11:30:48 AM
Yellow journalism at its finest.

My thoughts exactly.

Apparently the writer had exclusive access to Jackson's entourage.

The entorage is a waiter, Other witnesses, closest aides, sources, and some guy named Roger Friedman whom is a TV journalist.....

I'd not put too much time into reading this one, I'd wipe my ass with it, but my monitor is not as nice as my fresh scented flower imprinted aloe infused triple ply  toilet paper.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: ppbebe on June 28, 2009, 02:26:47 PM
Although a tabloid Daily mail isn't exactly a gutter press of the caliber of the sun or the news of the world.

yes quite fishy still at least the article is denying the molester accusation.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 29, 2009, 01:11:16 AM
Janet Jackson appeared on tonights BET Awards towards the end of the show.  I couldn't help but get a little emotional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkY_A9Wxlt4


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 29, 2009, 02:37:57 AM
i think the true mark of a legend is when nobody can touch what u do

on BET tonight, those vocal tributes showed just how one of a kind Jackson was.

those songs are nowhere as powerful when other people sing them


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jim Bob on June 29, 2009, 04:04:01 AM
i just wish the media would get off this story all ready.  he's been dead for like 4 days now.. and he's still going to be dead tomorrow.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 29, 2009, 08:21:32 AM
RIP Michael Jackson

What makes me sick is the pictures I have seen of his children crying. I think its digusting they are still very young and just after losing their father, who would not have been happy to have their lives so badly intruded, at this difficult time.

I wish the media would let MJ's kids out of this.

MJ was found innocent of indecent behaviour but the media never let him forget it.
You are right the media will never forget, it seems to be their job as we know it.  Michael was not found innoncent, as these cases were settled out of court for approximately 25 million I believe, regardless, I believe it took it's toll on Michael in the end. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 29, 2009, 11:11:25 AM
The supposed setlist for his upcoming London concerts

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8649

The Michael Jackson Setlist From The Show That Never Happened
by Paul Cashmere - June 29 2009


The first show for Michael Jackson`s `This Is It` concerts in London should have been just three weeks away.


50 shows went on sale for between July 2009 and March 2010 and then Jackson was going to take the show around the world. Around 1,000,000 tickets were sold.

A setlist for the show was locked in place but now will never be heard.

Jackson was not going to perform anything from his last album ?Invincible? (2002) and the only pre-Off The Wall song planned was the 175 track ?One Day In Your Life? which became a hit when it was re-released as a single in 1981)

This is what the ?This Is It? show would have looked like:

Billie Jean (from Thriller, 1982)
Wanna Be Startin? Somethin? (from Thriller, 1982)
Rock With You (from Off The Wall, 1979)
The Way You Make Me Feel (from Bad, 1987)
Don?t Stop ?Til You Get Enough (from Off The Wall, 1979)
I Just Can?t Stop Loving You (from Bad, 1987)
Human Nature (from Thriller, 1982)
Smooth Criminal (from Bad, 1987)
Girlfriend (from Off The Wall, 1979)
Man In The Mirror (from Bad, 1987)
Beat It (from Thriller, 1982)
One Day In Your Life (Forever Michael, 1975)
Heal The World (from Dangerous, 1991)
You Are Not Alone (from HIStory, 1995)
Remember The Time (from Dangerous, 1991)
Thriller (from Thriller, 1982)



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on June 29, 2009, 11:14:01 AM
i just wish the media would get off this story all ready.  he's been dead for like 4 days now.. and he's still going to be dead tomorrow.

You obviously have no clue about this man's importance.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: axlrosegnr on June 29, 2009, 11:19:04 AM
i just wish the media would get off this story all ready.  he's been dead for like 4 days now.. and he's still going to be dead tomorrow.


You obviously have no clue about this man's importance.

Or he's just sick of hearing about it. Like me.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 29, 2009, 11:25:31 AM
i just wish the media would get off this story all ready.  he's been dead for like 4 days now.. and he's still going to be dead tomorrow.


You obviously have no clue about this man's importance.

Or he's just sick of hearing about it. Like me.

You can be sick about it all you want, it ain't gonna stop the coverage.  The man is an icon, his life and now death have been surrounded by mystery.  This coverage is going to continue for some time, so brace yourself.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Lorenzo on June 29, 2009, 11:46:16 AM
RIP Michael Jackson

What makes me sick is the pictures I have seen of his children crying. I think its digusting they are still very young and just after losing their father, who would not have been happy to have their lives so badly intruded, at this difficult time.

I wish the media would let MJ's kids out of this.

MJ was found innocent of indecent behaviour but the media never let him forget it.
You are right the media will never forget, it seems to be their job as we know it.  Michael was not found innoncent, as these cases were settled out of court for approximately 25 million I believe, regardless, I believe it took it's toll on Michael in the end. 

I thought he was found not guilty of all charges? He paid the boy the money because he couldnt take it anymore? Maybe there has been a few cases or something? but i was only aware of the gavin case.

Either way if he was a child molester he would've went to prision.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GypsySoul on June 29, 2009, 01:33:46 PM
RIP Michael Jackson

What makes me sick is the pictures I have seen of his children crying. I think its digusting they are still very young and just after losing their father, who would not have been happy to have their lives so badly intruded, at this difficult time.

I wish the media would let MJ's kids out of this.

MJ was found innocent of indecent behaviour but the media never let him forget it.
You are right the media will never forget, it seems to be their job as we know it.  Michael was not found innoncent, as these cases were settled out of court for approximately 25 million I believe, regardless, I believe it took it's toll on Michael in the end. 

I thought he was found not guilty of all charges? He paid the boy the money because he couldnt take it anymore? Maybe there has been a few cases or something? but i was only aware of the gavin case.

Either way if he was a child molester he would've went to prision.

Oh please.  OJ was acquitted of any criminal wrong-doing for murdering Nicole and Goldman, too.  ::)






It's sad to think about what his children are about to go through.  The vultures are out in force already.  :(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 29, 2009, 02:40:15 PM
RIP Michael Jackson

What makes me sick is the pictures I have seen of his children crying. I think its digusting they are still very young and just after losing their father, who would not have been happy to have their lives so badly intruded, at this difficult time.

I wish the media would let MJ's kids out of this.

MJ was found innocent of indecent behaviour but the media never let him forget it.
You are right the media will never forget, it seems to be their job as we know it.  Michael was not found innoncent, as these cases were settled out of court for approximately 25 million I believe, regardless, I believe it took it's toll on Michael in the end. 

I thought he was found not guilty of all charges? He paid the boy the money because he couldnt take it anymore? Maybe there has been a few cases or something? but i was only aware of the gavin case.

Either way if he was a child molester he would've went to prision.

Oh please.  OJ was acquitted of any criminal wrong-doing for murdering Nicole and Goldman, too.  ::)






It's sad to think about what his children are about to go through.  The vultures are out in force already.  :(
My thoughts exactly, the poor children will be the victoms now.  Hopefully grammy and grampa will do a good job of keeping them away from those horrid people.  It's all you can hope for.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on June 29, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
I bet you all that Thriller will top the Billboard charts when it comes out later this week.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 29, 2009, 02:43:37 PM
RIP Michael Jackson

What makes me sick is the pictures I have seen of his children crying. I think its digusting they are still very young and just after losing their father, who would not have been happy to have their lives so badly intruded, at this difficult time.

I wish the media would let MJ's kids out of this.

MJ was found innocent of indecent behaviour but the media never let him forget it.
You are right the media will never forget, it seems to be their job as we know it.  Michael was not found innoncent, as these cases were settled out of court for approximately 25 million I believe, regardless, I believe it took it's toll on Michael in the end. 

I thought he was found not guilty of all charges? He paid the boy the money because he couldnt take it anymore? Maybe there has been a few cases or something? but i was only aware of the gavin case.

Either way if he was a child molester he would've went to prision.
I believe there were at least two cases, but don't quote me, I would have to research it, however I was reading an article the other day, which indeed told me the above mentioned.  I was just kinda doing some surfing and am not sure I can find it again, but I will try a bit later.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: norway on June 29, 2009, 03:37:49 PM

The case in the 90's was settled out of cout (he paid the vultures money) and the rest he was found not guilty.

Needless to stay, those stories also made the media profit a lot.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on June 29, 2009, 03:56:18 PM
he's been dead for like 4 days now

What a great contribution to a thread about someone who died, dick.   : ok:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 29, 2009, 03:56:32 PM
Child Molesters are like Serial Killers

they are predators

They have a "need" to molest and fill that need inside.

2 kids accusing jackson in 20 years doesn't qualify.

IF Jackson were a molester, kids would've came out by the truck loads.


He paid off the first kid just to make it go away.

I love how people can pound their chest and talk all this shit about somebody.

Oh, because OJ got off, that means every person who gets off is somehow really guilty?  Please

When u go to trial, u risk going to prison. Why risk it if u can make it go away and also without destroying an innocent child's life by having them go through all of this?

The last kid and his family were obvious frauds.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 29, 2009, 03:57:32 PM
he's been dead for like 4 days now

What a great contribution to a thread about someone who died, dick.   : ok:

U can always count on Jim Bob for class, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GypsySoul on June 29, 2009, 07:53:56 PM
My thoughts exactly, the poor children will be the victoms now.  Hopefully grammy and grampa will do a good job of keeping them away from those horrid people.  It's all you can hope for.

Sadly, we know what kind of "parent" 'grampa' was with his own children.  And 'grammy' is still with him so that doesn't say too much for her parenting skills IMO.


We can only pray that someone steps up to the plate and fights for the rights and protection on behalf of Michael's children.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 29, 2009, 11:07:15 PM
My thoughts exactly, the poor children will be the victoms now.  Hopefully grammy and grampa will do a good job of keeping them away from those horrid people.  It's all you can hope for.

Sadly, we know what kind of "parent" 'grampa' was with his own children.  And 'grammy' is still with him so that doesn't say too much for her parenting skills IMO.


We can only pray that someone steps up to the plate and fights for the rights and protection on behalf of Michael's children.
While they are still married, Michael's parents live in separate residences.  Joe in Vegas, Catherine in LA.  At least that's what I heard on CNN tonight.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 29, 2009, 11:08:39 PM
I bet you all that Thriller will top the Billboard charts when it comes out later this week.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/michael-jackson-poised-to-make-billboard-1003988531.story

Michael Jackson Poised To Make Billboard Chart History, Again


June 27, 2009 11:50 AM ET

Keith Caulfield, L.A.
Next week, Michael Jackson will once again make music history as many of his albums are poised to shake up the Billboard charts with incredible sales increases.

The impact of Jackson's passing was felt immediately in the marketplace. Industry sources report that the demand for Jackson's albums were so high, many brick and mortar retailers simply ran out of whatever Jackson stock they had on hand on Thursday (25) night.
 
Michael Jackson 1958-2009

The albums with the greatest sales increases -- at least on the physical side of things -- look to be his greatest hits packages "Number Ones" and "The Essential Michael Jackson" along with the expanded reissue of "Thriller." The sets, released between 2003 and 2008, were the three Jackson albums that perhaps had the most stock available in stores.

In the digital realm, where the supply problem doesn't exist, Jackson's songs and albums swarmed the top of the constantly-updating best sellers lists in both the iTunes' and Amazon's online music stores. At one point on Friday in the iTunes Store, nine out of the top 10-selling albums and 40 of the top 100-selling songs were by Jackson.

The three aforementioned albums, along with Jackson's classic studio sets "Off the Wall," "Bad" and "Dangerous" all will likely zoom into the upper region of Billboard's Top Pop Catalog Albums chart next week. Initial reports of Jackson's album sales from Thursday alone indicate that one of his albums -- possibly "Number Ones" -- will easily fly to No. 1 on the chart next week. Last week, the set -- which also was his top-selling album of the week -- was at No. 20 on the Catalog chart with 4,000 sold.

To compare, last week's No. 1 on the Catalog chart was TobyMac's "Portable Sounds" with 9,000 copies sold. Sources say that at least one of Jackson's albums sold more than double that amount just on Thursday.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nekomex on June 30, 2009, 12:47:07 AM
yes he went to court in 1993 i think, he then counteratacked suing for extorsion, but when the jury dissmised his claims then he agreed to pay money to the boy, i think he understood then that he was in a very high risk of lossing the case.

then again in 2005 he was charged, in that trial, was when he was accused of maturbating a 13 year old boy two times and performing oral sex to a 13 years old boy. for what i remembered there where various witnesses saying that they saw this things (employees from neverland) but he was found none guilty of the nine charges, including giving wine to minors.

i dont know what really happen, the thing was that Michael liked to be around boys, obviously somone can try to make a case of this and take an oportunity to gain some money. this in my opinion was clearly what happened in 1993, he says he didnt do anything wrong, but he agreed to pay the money, probably because the evidence against him was strong, not nessearily because he had done something wrong but because his behavior seemed abnormal.

so who knows what really happened.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on June 30, 2009, 12:53:11 AM
My thoughts exactly, the poor children will be the victoms now.  Hopefully grammy and grampa will do a good job of keeping them away from those horrid people.  It's all you can hope for.

Sadly, we know what kind of "parent" 'grampa' was with his own children.  And 'grammy' is still with him so that doesn't say too much for her parenting skills IMO.


We can only pray that someone steps up to the plate and fights for the rights and protection on behalf of Michael's children.
Well said, I forgot about Michael's own past.  It doesn't seem to me the biological mom would be the perfect fit either.  Possibly the nanny they have spent their lives with, as I would think it would be a already established relationship, a comfort to the children, and if anything it would be her who would know the most in regards to Michaels desires in regards to raising his children.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on June 30, 2009, 02:36:54 AM
Plus his lawyers and advisers obviously made him take the deal. Think about people that are real conservative and shit and u trying to make them believe a grown man hanging around kids is normal. For Jackson, I believe him just because of his personality etc. It would be extremely weird for anybody else and I am sure he knew there was no way he could win against an innocent looking little kid.



If u heard stuff on that last family though. they were obvious con artists.

MJ supported them and stuff, but once the kid got better, I'd say Jackson wanted them to kindly get the fuck out and they probably missed the perks they received being with him so they did the claim.

If MJ had molested the boy, the kid's mom should've been locked up also.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 30, 2009, 08:07:18 AM
I bet you all that Thriller will top the Billboard charts when it comes out later this week.
Simply an amazing accomplishment, shows what a huge icon he was and will continue to be.

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8659

Michael Jackson Chartwatch
by Paul Cashmere - June 30 2009


Michael Jackson will hold down the top 3 spots on the Billboard chart this week.


?The Essential Michael Jackson?, ?Number Ones? and ?Thriller? are expected to make up the top 3 spots when the chart is released later this week.

Outside of the top 10, ?Off The Wall? is tracking well for a top 20 position, while ?Bad? and ?Dangerous? will be in the Top 30.

Stores have reported sales of Jackson albums not seen since the death of John Lennon. Lennon?s murder in 1980 prompted fans to stock up on holes in their collection and the Jackson death is having a similar impact at retail.

In the USA, iTunes has 5 Michael Jackson albums in the top 10.

The Essential Michael Jackson (1)
Number Ones (2)
Thriller (3)
Off The Wall (4)
Thriller 25th Anniversary (10)

The iTunes singles chart features

Man In The Mirror (1)
The Way You Make Me Feel (4)
Billie Jean (5)
Black Or White (7)
Smooth Criminal (8)
Don?t Stop Til You Get Enough (10)

Meanwhile at Amazon.com, Michael Jackson owns the Top 10:

Thriller 25th Anniversary (1)
Off The Wall (2)
Bad (3)
The Ultimate Collection (4)
Number Ones (5)
Dangerous (6)
The Essential Michael Jackson (8)
History Vol 1 (9)
Invincible (10)



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 30, 2009, 08:10:03 AM
A nice gesture, but it obviously wouldn't be the same

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8658

Michael Jackson This Is It To Become A Tribute Show
by Paul Cashmere - June 30 2009


The organisers of the Michael Jackson `This Is It` tour now plan to put on a tribute concert featuring the planned setlist that they should would have had had it gone ahead.


An announcement about the show is expected soon with September the likely timing for the event.

It is still early stages as the guests would have to agree to perform and then rehearse for the show.

Jackson was only three weeks away from beginning ?This Is It? in London. 50 shows had sold out taking the event through until March 2010. The plan was then to tour the world.

The show will not necessarily take place in London. The most likely scenario is that it will happen in Los Angeles.

Meanwhile, Undercover has learned that the night before Michael died he did a complete dress rehearsal of the show that was filmed.

Footage of the rehearsal is said to be excellent quality.

Jackson had been rehearsing the complete performance at The Staples Center in Los Angeles.

It is common practice for a major show to be completely dress rehearsed, sometimes up to 100 times before the first show of a tour.

We hear that a DVD and CD of the rehearsal is currently being produced and will be released soon.

This is what the ?This Is It? show would have looked like:

Billie Jean (from Thriller, 1982)
Wanna Be Startin? Somethin? (from Thriller, 1982)
Rock With You (from Off The Wall, 1979)
The Way You Make Me Feel (from Bad, 1987)
Don?t Stop ?Til You Get Enough (from Off The Wall, 1979)
I Just Can?t Stop Loving You (from Bad, 1987)
Human Nature (from Thriller, 1982)
Smooth Criminal (from Bad, 1987)
Girlfriend (from Off The Wall, 1979)
Man In The Mirror (from Bad, 1987)
Beat It (from Thriller, 1982)
One Day In Your Life (Forever Michael, 1975)
Heal The World (from Dangerous, 1991)
You Are Not Alone (from HIStory, 1995)
Remember The Time (from Dangerous, 1991)
Thriller (from Thriller, 1982)



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Lorenzo on June 30, 2009, 11:13:48 AM
Child Molesters are like Serial Killers

they are predators

They have a "need" to molest and fill that need inside.

2 kids accusing jackson in 20 years doesn't qualify.

IF Jackson were a molester, kids would've came out by the truck loads.


He paid off the first kid just to make it go away.

I love how people can pound their chest and talk all this shit about somebody.

Oh, because OJ got off, that means every person who gets off is somehow really guilty?  Please

When u go to trial, u risk going to prison. Why risk it if u can make it go away and also without destroying an innocent child's life by having them go through all of this?

The last kid and his family were obvious frauds.




I heard the kid from 2005, was very hesitant when answering and contradicted himself alot. Wasnt he a cancer patient recovering? Michael kindly helped out the family to improve his life. What a smack he got back in the face from that family.

All the money in the world cant save you from prision. As D pointed out above, loads of other kids would've come forward if Michael was some sort of molester. Why did the parents let their kids go to his house??

To me its obvious Michael was trying to recreate the childhood he never had thanks to his horrible, vile, distasteful father (who plugged his new business at his sons tribute night... DISGUSTING). Out of the kindness of his heart (and we have various indications of Michaels caring nature) he tried to help these kids. I beleive axl does/did the same thing? Holds parties and invites sick kids, a time for them to forgot about being sick for a while.

Michael apparently was in the minority who didnt abuse groupies. He often warned girls and took them under his wing once they were "used and abused".

People who have had a hard childhood are very sensitive to kids and want them to enjoy it unlike them.

Oh and grandpa Jackson shouldnt be let NEAR any children. Grandpa spent his time whipping his boys to make them into money machines and seeing other women while his poor wife stayed at home and reared his younger kids.

Those pictures of him on stage are really, really upsetting  :-[ Michael doing what he loved. Shame his beloved children never got to see their father do what he did best. RIP.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: LeftToDecay on June 30, 2009, 01:53:52 PM
Rest in relative peace then I guess.
It's creepy and funny and sad and odd what death of a celebrity does to people and media alike.
Literally overnight, Jacko went from hated and ridiculed pedophile to the respected and admired entertainert he once was.
All he had to do was die.

...Not trying to ride an overly high horse here; I didn't think much of him since it became apparent his relationship to kids isn't overly healthy. Once he died I went and listened Scream and wondered how I  had forgotten to like such a kick ass song :P
In concusion, we are all patetic assholes.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on June 30, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
You've got a point there.


I'm old enough to have been a fan 1st time around when Thriller came out, but when he started going thru the plastic surgeries it turned me off to him. By then my musical tastes had moved on to bands such as Guns N Roses.

After Michael died, I found myself listening to Thriller the last few days and rediscovering how good it really was and how good of an artist Michael Jackson was.

In many instances, people don't appreciate an artist until they are gone.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jim Bob on June 30, 2009, 10:55:33 PM


In many instances, people don't appreciate an artist until they are gone.


While I think the media is hyping all this up way too much, I completely agree and its a real shame. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on June 30, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
You've got a point there.


I'm old enough to have been a fan 1st time around when Thriller came out, but when he started going thru the plastic surgeries it turned me off to him. By then my musical tastes had moved on to bands such as Guns N Roses.

After Michael died, I found myself listening to Thriller the last few days and rediscovering how good it really was and how good of an artist Michael Jackson was.

In many instances, people don't appreciate an artist until they are gone.

Yeah I'm right there with you.  I was a huge fan of his when I was 7-10 years old in the mid to late 80's before I moved onto the rock scene.  I still appreciated him a bit when "Dangerous" came out.  I liked the handful of singles that were released from that album.  But in the last 15 years I didn't give his music much of a thought aside from playing "Thriller", "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough", "Wanna Be Starting Something" occasionally or hearing other songs or seeing videos on occasion.  But from last Thursday on I've been pretty much consumed with his catalog and am remembering why I was a fan in the first place.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on June 30, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
Ya know, until I was about 7 years old, all I got to listen to was what my parents listened to, and then Michael Jackson's Thriller came on the scene.  It was the first time I got to have my own music, and looking back, I realize that it was what moved me into the rock scene.  I finally found my own radio station, and I really got the chance to explore my own musical tastes.  My parents were so amazed by him that they had no problem with me loving MJ. 

Then I got in high school, and I remember Black or White coming out, and the video was so cool.  I was so into GnR and other rock bands by then, but I always had love for Michael Jackson, so I listened to it, and loved it.  I have so many good memories of that time, and everytime I hear that song, they all come back. 

About a year ago, I found his CD of number one hits for $8.00 at Wal-Mart and bought it.  That's when I really introduced my own kids to him, and they too, loved it.  It was 20+ years later for some of those songs, and they still made me as excited as when I was a kid, just like I feel when I listen to AFD or Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet and New Jersey.  I even wrote a blog about my excitement on my myspace!  Now, I'm so glad that I found that CD and got the chance to rediscover why I loved him so much to begin with, and to let my kids see my excitement and hear him before he died.  When I cried watching the news coverage the night he died, they understood.

It seems that Michael Jackson was there for every stage of my life.  Without him, I don't know that I ever would have branched out at a young age and found my own connection with music.  I will never forget the way his music made me feel, or how it helped my generation unite, (for lack of a better word).  We all loved Michael Jackson.  He entertained all ages, but it felt like he was ours.  I know it's been five days since he died, but I still feel it, and it still makes me very, very sad.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nekomex on July 01, 2009, 01:26:11 AM
You've got a point there.


I'm old enough to have been a fan 1st time around when Thriller came out, but when he started going thru the plastic surgeries it turned me off to him. By then my musical tastes had moved on to bands such as Guns N Roses.

After Michael died, I found myself listening to Thriller the last few days and rediscovering how good it really was and how good of an artist Michael Jackson was.

In many instances, people don't appreciate an artist until they are gone.

Yeah I'm right there with you.  I was a huge fan of his when I was 7-10 years old in the mid to late 80's before I moved onto the rock scene.  I still appreciated him a bit when "Dangerous" came out.  I liked the handful of singles that were released from that album.  But in the last 15 years I didn't give his music much of a thought aside from playing "Thriller", "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough", "Wanna Be Starting Something" occasionally or hearing other songs or seeing videos on occasion.  But from last Thursday on I've been pretty much consumed with his catalog and am remembering why I was a fan in the first place.

well, i think this is what happened to 90% of people, he was huge until 93-94. then his career and his albums didnt sell, the last one in 2001 was a huge flop.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 01, 2009, 02:02:23 AM
Anyone going to his viewing?


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on July 01, 2009, 02:51:12 AM
well, i think this is what happened to 90% of people, he was huge until 93-94. then his career and his albums didnt sell, the last one in 2001 was a huge flop.

It's amazing he was so successful that he could have an album sell 10 million copies worldiwde and have it deemed a "huge flop".

According to Hits Daily Double and Billboard, he has the 3 best selling albums of the week... and the first time in history that a Billboard "catalog" album has outsold the #1 album on the Billboard 200 chart (which was done by all three albums). 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 01, 2009, 03:04:27 AM
well, i think this is what happened to 90% of people, he was huge until 93-94. then his career and his albums didnt sell, the last one in 2001 was a huge flop.

It's amazing he was so successful that he could have an album sell 10 million copies worldiwde and have it deemed a "huge flop".

According to Hits Daily Double and Billboard, he has the 3 best selling albums of the week... and the first time in history that a Billboard "catalog" album has outsold the #1 album on the Billboard 200 chart (which was done by all three albums). 

I want to flop like Michael Jackson!  (Careerwise, I'm not trying to make a bad joke or anything.)

I hope in death he can finally help children the way he wanted to.  People might see what child abuse can do to someone, many years after the abuse has taken place.  Stupid cowards.

There's a special place in hell for Joe Jackson.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 01, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
lol @ people calling selling 10 million copies a flop. Only Michael Jackson would be judged by such standards. Invincible was a good album in my opinion. Possibly his most consistant album since Thriller. I'm not talking about best songs or biggest hits, but the album as a whole was quite consistant from beginning to end with good songs. I can't say that about Dangerous or HIStory, even though I love certain songs from those albums more. Bad has some really good songs on it, but the album as a whole was never a favorite of mine.

RIP Michael. The world doesn't yet know what it has lost. We miss you. :'(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Bill 213 on July 01, 2009, 08:29:44 PM
I really liked You Rock My World from Invincible, never really listened to the rest of it.  It's a very catchy tune.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 01, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
There is a song on Invincible called "Heaven Can Wait

listen to it

it is awesome


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: nekomex on July 01, 2009, 09:47:49 PM
well, i think this is what happened to 90% of people, he was huge until 93-94. then his career and his albums didnt sell, the last one in 2001 was a huge flop.

It's amazing he was so successful that he could have an album sell 10 million copies worldiwde and have it deemed a "huge flop".

According to Hits Daily Double and Billboard, he has the 3 best selling albums of the week... and the first time in history that a Billboard "catalog" album has outsold the #1 album on the Billboard 200 chart (which was done by all three albums). 

my bad, i heard that the album was a huge flop, i didnt knew the numbers.  probably they were hoping to sell more, but indeed 10 million copies is a pretty respectable number.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 01, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
There is a song on Invincible called "Heaven Can Wait

listen to it

it is awesome

I think that is one of the poorer tracks on the album. I'll list my top 5 songs from Invincible, even though it's actually quite hard to pick, the whole album is good. If you want to listen to how he feels about being stalked by the media, listen to "Privacy". It's a good and pretty hard song.
Top 5:
1. Heartbreaker
2. Unbreakable
3. You Rock My World
4. Speechless
5. Cry


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 02, 2009, 09:53:03 AM
Watching the news last evening, they stated that children are with grama, and that if grama could not take care of them, they would be raised by Diana Ross I believe and Michael has made mom beneficiary in his will.  He left nothing to daddy Joe, not surprised.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 02, 2009, 10:32:25 AM
Watching the news last evening, they stated that children are with grama, and that if grama could not take care of them, they would be raised by Diana Ross I believe and Michael has made mom beneficiary in his will.  He left nothing to daddy Joe, not surprised.
I heard that Joe was NOT excluded, as was previously reported.  He was mentioned in the will.  Kind of odd for the guardians both to be senior citizens, but I guess they were the 2 best options.  Also no public viewing this weekend but Larry King is doing a special tonight from Neverland.  They're going inside the house.  Must see TV.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 02, 2009, 12:11:21 PM
Watching the news last evening, they stated that children are with grama, and that if grama could not take care of them, they would be raised by Diana Ross I believe and Michael has made mom beneficiary in his will.  He left nothing to daddy Joe, not surprised.
I heard that Joe was NOT excluded, as was previously reported.  He was mentioned in the will.  Kind of odd for the guardians both to be senior citizens, but I guess they were the 2 best options.  Also no public viewing this weekend but Larry King is doing a special tonight from Neverland.  They're going inside the house.  Must see TV.

I'd love to see this, but my shitty european version of CNN (the international one) doesn't air Larry King Live for some idiotic reason! :rant:
Is there anywhere I can see the show live? I know he puts 30 mins summaries on the CNN web page, but I really want to see this live.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 02, 2009, 01:45:01 PM
When the media report how Jackson was 500 million in debt, they somehow conveniently forget to mention that his assets are valued at like 1 to 2 billion.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 02, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
I heard they are having a service at the Staples Center.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: loretian on July 02, 2009, 03:55:12 PM
Here is a clip of his last dance rehearsal.  He does look pretty exhausted, but maybe this was near the end of the rehearsal, who knows:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/jackson.wrap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/jackson.wrap/index.html)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 02, 2009, 04:14:18 PM
I think he looked alright.  The song may have been choreographed that way.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: loretian on July 02, 2009, 04:17:45 PM
I think he looked alright.  The song may have been choreographed that way.

Very well could be.  I don't really know what was good and what was not.....


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on July 02, 2009, 06:24:50 PM
Quincy Jones reminisces on meeting Michael and producing Thriller:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/06/quincy-jones-on-michael-jackson-we-owned-the-80s-and-our-souls-would-be-connected-forever.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/06/quincy-jones-on-michael-jackson-we-owned-the-80s-and-our-souls-would-be-connected-forever.html)

I liked this part
With two months to get "Thriller" done, we dug in and really hit it. Michael, Rod, the great engineer Bruce Swedien and I had all spent so much time together by now that we had a shorthand, so moving quickly wasn't a problem. I told Michael that we needed a black rock 'n' roll tune -- a black "My Sharona" -- and a begging tune for the album. He came back with "Beat It" and Rod came back with "The Lady in My Life."

Rod also brought in "Thriller" and Michael sang his heart out on it. At one point during the session the right speaker burst into flames, which none of us had ever seen before. How's that for a sign?



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 02, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
I think he looked alright.  The song may have been choreographed that way.

Very well could be.  I don't really know what was good and what was not.....
I think it's quite clear it was choreagraphed that way.  Now if they did it in a toned down manner because of his lack of energy, I guess that's a possibility.  But it certainly was meant to be done that way.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: KIKO2K6 on July 03, 2009, 12:46:09 AM
Quincy Jones reminisces on meeting Michael and producing Thriller:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/06/quincy-jones-on-michael-jackson-we-owned-the-80s-and-our-souls-would-be-connected-forever.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/06/quincy-jones-on-michael-jackson-we-owned-the-80s-and-our-souls-would-be-connected-forever.html)

I liked this part
With two months to get "Thriller" done, we dug in and really hit it. Michael, Rod, the great engineer Bruce Swedien and I had all spent so much time together by now that we had a shorthand, so moving quickly wasn't a problem. I told Michael that we needed a black rock 'n' roll tune -- a black "My Sharona" -- and a begging tune for the album. He came back with "Beat It" and Rod came back with "The Lady in My Life."

Rod also brought in "Thriller" and Michael sang his heart out on it. At one point during the session the right speaker burst into flames, which none of us had ever seen before. How's that for a sign?



Thanks great read.








Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Leddy on July 03, 2009, 04:35:35 AM
I think he looked alright.  The song may have been choreographed that way.

Very well could be.  I don't really know what was good and what was not.....
I think it's quite clear it was choreagraphed that way.  Now if they did it in a toned down manner because of his lack of energy, I guess that's a possibility.  But it certainly was meant to be done that way.

Yeah seeing something like "Billy Jean" would be a better indication of whether he was in top gear.  Though what was shown was far more energetic, controlled and snappy than I would have suspected.  Such a shame for his fans that had tickets for the 02, it looks like it was going to be spectacular.

I was disappointed at first that he was miming, but I think that would be missing the point.  His shows where always more about the spectacle and, well, "the show" rather than a live singing clinic.  He lip synced many times throughout his career, though when he chose not to he was still excellent.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 03, 2009, 08:49:42 AM
I found out last week that my mother had managed to track down tickets to one of the O2 Arena shows, and was in the process of buying a bunch of them for my parents, myself, my sister and niece's.  Made me even more depressed... I was wandering around like a zombie all Friday.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 03, 2009, 01:26:20 PM
I think he looked alright.  The song may have been choreographed that way.



Plus it was rehearsals so he was just goin through the motions etc.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Grouse on July 04, 2009, 08:02:28 AM
I knew that MJ was recording an album but as it turns out it wasn't just one album it were actually two albums.
Recording two albums while also preparing for a 50 date string of concerts is just crazy. I mean that would be enough to push a healthy person over the edge, Let alone MJ.


http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-michael-jackson-was-working-on-1003990394.story (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-michael-jackson-was-working-on-1003990394.story)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 04, 2009, 08:50:28 AM
They found the Synthetic sleep thing that is used in hospitals in his house. U have to have someone monitor u cause it can be fatal

its pretty obvious he had that administered which is why the doctor was there and found him with a shallow pulse. I am sure the doctor came in to check on him and realized that Michael was in trouble.

damn shame.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on July 05, 2009, 08:56:40 AM
Ugh, this is such a waste of talent.  I don't know if anybody here watches 48 Hours Mysteries, but I seem to remember a nurse who killed her husband with something like Propofol (sp.?).  Dangerous stuff.   It probably didn't help Michael probably weighed about 95 pounds soaking wet.

Hopefully, this tragedy teches a lesson to folks out there who are using drugs they shouldn't be. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 05, 2009, 02:41:02 PM
Ugh, this is such a waste of talent.  I don't know if anybody here watches 48 Hours Mysteries, but I seem to remember a nurse who killed her husband with something like Propofol (sp.?).  Dangerous stuff.   It probably didn't help Michael probably weighed about 95 pounds soaking wet.

Hopefully, this tragedy teches a lesson to folks out there who are using drugs they shouldn't be. 


Perhaps we should wait with drawing conclusions and teaching moral lessons until we actually have the autopsy report...


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 05, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
Well, it is basic mathematics

Jackson wanted this synthetic sleep drug... it is a drug where u must be monitored by a doctor cause it can be fatal... That drug was found in Jackson's house, a DR was in the house, the DR found Jackson with a shallow pulse..........

I mean, maybe it is jumping a bit to conclusions, but I'd say it is highly likely he got injected with the sleep drug and it was just too much.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 05, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
Well, it is basic mathematics

Jackson wanted this synthetic sleep drug... it is a drug where u must be monitored by a doctor cause it can be fatal... That drug was found in Jackson's house, a DR was in the house, the DR found Jackson with a shallow pulse..........

I mean, maybe it is jumping a bit to conclusions, but I'd say it is highly likely he got injected with the sleep drug and it was just too much.

No one really knows. It may be the case, but it could also be something else and the drug just happened to be in his home...


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on July 05, 2009, 04:46:37 PM
Ugh, this is such a waste of talent.  I don't know if anybody here watches 48 Hours Mysteries, but I seem to remember a nurse who killed her husband with something like Propofol (sp.?).  Dangerous stuff.   It probably didn't help Michael probably weighed about 95 pounds soaking wet.

Hopefully, this tragedy teches a lesson to folks out there who are using drugs they shouldn't be. 


Perhaps we should wait with drawing conclusions and teaching moral lessons until we actually have the autopsy report...


Are you fucking kidding me?  Whether it was that or not, how is it a bad thing to reinforce to people they shouldn't fuck with potentially deadly drugs?   ???   :confused:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 05, 2009, 07:44:37 PM
Ugh, this is such a waste of talent.  I don't know if anybody here watches 48 Hours Mysteries, but I seem to remember a nurse who killed her husband with something like Propofol (sp.?).  Dangerous stuff.   It probably didn't help Michael probably weighed about 95 pounds soaking wet.

Hopefully, this tragedy teches a lesson to folks out there who are using drugs they shouldn't be. 


Perhaps we should wait with drawing conclusions and teaching moral lessons until we actually have the autopsy report...


Are you fucking kidding me?  Whether it was that or not, how is it a bad thing to reinforce to people they shouldn't fuck with potentially deadly drugs?   ???   :confused:

It is when you base that advice on Michael Jackson's death without yet knowing the true cause of it.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: w.axl.rose on July 06, 2009, 05:07:04 AM
Thank you for your registration.

Sorry, we regret to inform you that your registration to attend the Public Memorial Service for Michael Jackson was not selected.

Hundreds of thousands registered, but only a few can be in attendance.
 :confused: :confused:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 06, 2009, 05:28:51 AM
Thank you for your registration.

Sorry, we regret to inform you that your registration to attend the Public Memorial Service for Michael Jackson was not selected.

Hundreds of thousands registered, but only a few can be in attendance.
 :confused: :confused:

Is it not in a stadium?  There's a limited capacity... most of the people who registered were always going to be disappointed.  I myself celebrate his life my own way.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 06, 2009, 06:15:12 AM
Just found this on a music production forum... the guy writing was part of the studio crew on the recording of History:

I was fortunate enough to work with MJ early in my career. He was an incredible artist. Talented beyond your wildest dreams. Extremely generous, and a hard worker. I actually went from a staff assistant at the Hit Factory in NYC to freelance engineer under Swedien and MJ. They were due to start in Los Angeles when the Northridge earthquake hit so they moved to New York. One room was all Bruce, the second room was the writing room. I started assisting Bruce's writing partner Rene Moore. I would track stuff with Rene, and Bruce would come in and tell me what I did wrong, sit in for a few hours and set us straight. After a couple months MJ arrived and the entire tour rig was moved in along with Brad Buxer, Andrew Scheps, and Eddie Delena. I continued to assist them until the whole crew moved to L.A., they decided to take me with them. I would assist Bruce during the day, and help out every where else at night - assisting, engineering, programming, and on one song playing guitar. We had two rooms at Record One, and two rooms at Larrabee where I met John. At one point in NYC we had just about every room at the Hit Factory. The crew was great, and I learned so much from all of them. I learned to engineer from Bruce Swedien, John, and Eddie, and got to sit in with producers like MJ, Jam And Lewis, Babyface, David Foster, Teddy Riley, and Dallas Austin.

I was actually asked to leave the project early on because there were too many people around and MJ didn't know me. Luckily, I was rehired about 10 days later. At the wrap party MJ apologized profusely, and expressed his gratitude. Truly the most sincere man you will ever meet.

Some random memories:


One morning MJ came in with a new song he had written overnight. We called in a guitar player, and Michael sang every note of every chord to him. "here's the first chord first note, second note, third note. Here's the second chord first note, second note, third note", etc., etc. We then witnessed him giving the most heartfelt and profound vocal performance, live in the control room through an SM57.

He would sing us an entire string arrangement, every part. Steve Porcaro once told me he witnessed MJ doing that with the string section in the room. Had it all in his head, harmony and everything. Not just little eight bar loop ideas. he would actually sing the entire arrangement into a micro-cassette recorder complete with stops and fills.

At one point Michael was angry at one of the producers on the project because he was treating everyone terribly. Rather than create a scene or fire the guy, Michael called him to his office/lounge and one of the security guys threw a pie in his face. No further action was needed . . . . .

During the recording of "Smile" on HIStory, Bruce thought it would be great if Michael would sing live with the orchestra. But of course, we didn't tell the players that. We set him up in a vocal booth off to the side. They rehearsed a bit without vocals in, then during the first take Michael sang, just about knocked them out of their chairs.

His beatboxing was without parallel, and his time was ridiculous.

His sense of harmony was incredible. Never a bad note, no tuning, even his breathing was perfectly in time.

Once, while we were taking a break, I think we were actually watching the OJ chase on TV, there was a news program talking about him being in Europe with some little boy. I was sitting next to the guy while the news is making this crap up. He just looked at me and said this is what I have to deal with.

I spent close to 3 years working with him, and not once did I question his morals, or ever believe any of the allegations. I wasn't even a fan then. I saw him interact with his brothers kids, other people's children, and at one point my own girlfriend's kids. I got to spend a day at Neverland with them. A completely incredible human being, always looking for a way to make all children's lives better. Every weekend at Neverland was donated to a different children's group - children with AIDS, children cancer, etc., and most of the time he wasn't there.

He was simply living the childhood he never had. In many ways he never grew up.

I was assisting Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis while they recorded the background vocals for "Scream" with MJ and Janet. The two of them singing together was amazing. Super tight, no bad notes. One part after another. When they took a break they sang the showtunes they used to sing as kids. Again, perfect harmony. Mj refused to sing the "stop f*ckin' with me part" because he would NOT curse.

I was the tape op for the recording of the background vocals on "Stranger in Moscow". Scared the hell out me. Michael was dropping in and out on syllables, rearranging the notes and timing as he put it down. No Pro Tools at the time, just 2" tape, and my punches.

I erased a live keyboard overdub that he played one night. He came in the next morning, replaced it, and never uttered another word about it.

I was there when Lisa Marie was around. They acted like two kids in love. Held hands all the time, and she hung out at the studio for quite a while. I never questioned their love for each other.

We recorded a Christmas song during the summer of '94 that needed a children's choir. Michael insisted that the entire studio be decorated with xmas lights, tree, fake snow and a sled for their recording. And he bought presents for everyone.

The last weekend of recording on HIStory he came to me and Eddie Delena, and said "I'm sorry, but I don't think any of us are going to sleep this weekend. There's a lot to get done, and we have to go to Bernie on Monday morning". He stayed at the studio the entire time, singing, and mixing. I got to spend a couple quiet moments with him during that time. We talked about John Lennon one night as he was gearing up to sing the last vocal of the record - the huge ad libs at the end of "earth song". I told him the story of John singing "twist and shout" while being sick, and though most people think he was screaming for effect, it was actually his voice giving out. He loved it, and then went in to sing his heart out. . . .

Later that night, while mixing, everyone left the room so MJ could turn it up. This was a common occurrence during the mixes, and I was left in the room with ear plugs, and hands over my ears, in case he needed something. This particular night, all the lights were out and we noticed some blue flashes intermittently lighting up the room during playback. After a few moments we could see that one of the speakers (custom quad augspuergers) was shooting blue flames. Mj liked this and proceeded to push all the faders up . . . .

MJ liked hot water while he was singing. I mean really hot !!!!! It got to the point that I would melt plastic spoons to test it.

Bruce and I were talking about walking to the studio everyday in NYC, and what routes we took. Michael looked at us and said we were so lucky to be able to do that. He couldn't walk down the street without being harassed. It was a sad moment for all of us.

The studio crew got free tickets to the Janet show so we all went right from work one night. About halfway through the show we see this dude with a long beard, dressed in robes dancing in the aisle behind. I mean really dancing . . . it was Mj in disguise. Kind of like the costume Chevy Chase wears in Fletch while roller skating.

He got one of the first playstations from sony in his lounge . . . we snuck in late at night to play the games that hadn't been released yet.

A couple people on the session hadn't seen Jurassic Park while it was out, so MJ arranged a private screening for us at Sony.

He was a huge fan of Nine Inch Nails Downward Spiral . . . .

I was lucky enough over the course of 3 years to have access to the multitrack masters for tour prep, videos, and archive purposes. To be able to pull these tracks apart was a huge lesson in production, and songwriting. A chance to look into the minds of geniuses.

Of all the records I've worked on, MJJ was the only company to give platinum award records.

One day we just all sat in the studio listening to his catalog with him for inspiration. He loved the process, he loved the work.
__________________
Rob Hoffman

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http://www.elicitmusic.com

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/4325168-post15.html


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fear the juggalo 2 on July 06, 2009, 06:40:53 AM
i wanted to go to the memorial so bad, but i got the same disappointing e-mail also. now i see tons of tix on ebay. shame on everyone selling them.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: w.axl.rose on July 06, 2009, 06:44:00 AM
dont you need to show valid identification upon entry though?


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: fear the juggalo 2 on July 06, 2009, 06:51:02 AM
i believe you got e-mailed a conformation, then you pick up the tix at dodger stadium. i would guess they are selling the e-mails. the funny thing is alot of sellers are ticket agents. random my ass! if it looks like a turd, smells like a turd, most likely it's ticketmaster.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 07, 2009, 07:53:29 AM
The following songs are all from this week's official UK singles chart, thanks to downloads alone.

40 - Bad
38 - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
35 - You Are Not Alone
34 - The Way You Make Me Feel
33 - Earth Song
32 - They Don't Care About Us
26 - Dirty Diana
25 - Black Or White
19 - Beat It
13 - Smooth Criminal
12 - Thriller
10 - Billie Jean
2 - Man In The Mirror


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: ppbebe on July 07, 2009, 01:39:37 PM
http://www.bucketheadland.com/

this tribute will touch your heartstrings. one of the most beautiful pieces by bh. he must have really liked mj.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 07, 2009, 03:58:22 PM
I just watched the memorial on TV.  Had some incredibly moving speeches, and even the performances by people like Usher, who I don't like was extremely emotional and beautiful.
I thought I was doing a fairly good job of holding my tears in, and then little Paris spoke and they all came out. :cry:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Grouse on July 07, 2009, 04:00:27 PM
Ok, I'll admit, I got a pretty big lump in my throat when Paris took the mic. It just broke my heart.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on July 07, 2009, 05:05:02 PM
The following songs are all from this week's official UK singles chart, thanks to downloads alone.

40 - Bad
38 - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
35 - You Are Not Alone
34 - The Way You Make Me Feel
33 - Earth Song
32 - They Don't Care About Us
26 - Dirty Diana
25 - Black Or White
19 - Beat It
13 - Smooth Criminal
12 - Thriller
10 - Billie Jean
2 - Man In The Mirror


The man was a hit machine!  I didn't get to see any of the memorial...work kinda gets in the way.   :(


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 07, 2009, 05:22:46 PM
I saw bits and pieces of the memorial. Brooke Shields and his daughter Paris made me cry. Such a tragedy that this great artist was so unhappy. I would like to know HOW THE HELL HE GOT PROPOFOL in his home. That can only be given to a patient on a respirator or under the supervision of an anesthesiologist. It's also sad that his father can't acknowledge the psychological damage that he did to his son.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 07, 2009, 07:07:31 PM
No DVR in the Axl4prez house?


I cried my eyes out watching this

U don't realize how many lives he touched. Just the shear number of people watching this was mind blowing.

I know one thing: I never want to hear or see anymore Tabloid MJ gossip/jokes etc.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: w.axl.rose on July 07, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
they are rebroadcasting it on myspace.

http://celebrity.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=celebrity.icon


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 07, 2009, 07:29:28 PM
I couldn't watch it again. My jaw was quivering I got so emotional watching this. Especially his daughter. That was heart shattering.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: w.axl.rose on July 07, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
i woke up and was able to see the ending when everyone was up on stage and the daughter did make me shed a tear or two. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Grouse on July 07, 2009, 07:39:50 PM
I couldn't watch it again. My jaw was quivering I got so emotional watching this. Especially his daughter. That was heart shattering.



Amen to that D, First time round I managed to no get emotional, just saw the rerun on some Dutch channel and shed a tear.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on July 07, 2009, 10:26:19 PM
No DVR in the Axl4prez house?


I cried my eyes out watching this

U don't realize how many lives he touched. Just the shear number of people watching this was mind blowing.

I know one thing: I never want to hear or see anymore Tabloid MJ gossip/jokes etc.


Axl4Prez has a vcr/dvd player, but no dvr!  We're practically Amish!  :hihi:
Seriously though, I think Yahoo had some clips.  We just saw them, and oh yeah...that Paris made me cry.  Very sad.
It's so sad to hear people complain about all the coverage...the man's dead and they still wanna piss on his grave.
I truly think they'll get theirs in the end.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jim Bob on July 07, 2009, 10:31:29 PM

It's so sad to hear people complain about all the coverage...the man's dead and they still wanna piss on his grave.
I truly think they'll get theirs in the end.


so because some people think MJ 24/7 on the news is a bit much they are pissing on his grave?   

I had nothing against the guy, wish his family all the best, may he rest in peace.. but the constant news coverage has been a bit too much for my taste.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 07, 2009, 11:15:48 PM

It's so sad to hear people complain about all the coverage...the man's dead and they still wanna piss on his grave.
I truly think they'll get theirs in the end.


so because some people think MJ 24/7 on the news is a bit much they are pissing on his grave?   

I had nothing against the guy, wish his family all the best, may he rest in peace.. but the constant news coverage has been a bit too much for my taste.

And that's a dead mans fault how?




Luckily for me, I had class and missed the service.  I have read up on the service and seen some pictures.  Once I grow a set of balls, I'll watch Paris' bit.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jim Bob on July 07, 2009, 11:20:30 PM


And that's a dead mans fault how?


Its not.   Its the media's fault.    The same media that has been demonizing him for the last 15 years.   

Whatever gets ratings and makes money I guess.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on July 07, 2009, 11:40:13 PM
I think they did a good job with the memorial.  I agree that Paris' bit at the end was heartbreaking.   :-\



LW TW artist / album label power index % change
3 1 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 337,806 +224% NUMBER ONES
-- 2 NOW 31 SONY MUSIC 167,593 -- VARIOUS ARTISTS
1 3 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 165,394 +55% THRILLER
-- 4 BRAD PAISLEY ARISTA NASHVILLE 129,564 -- AMERICAN SATURDAY NIGHT
2 5 MICHAEL JACKSON EPIC 121,957 +15% ESSENTIAL

Jackson?s Epic/Sony Legacy collection Number Ones tops this week?s chart with 337k, with a remarkable 225k from Wal-Mart stores alone, while Thriller lands at #3 (165k) and Essential at #5 (122k).

In all, a total of six Jackson albums hit the Top 50, including Off the Wall (#11), Dangerous (#22) and Bad (#28).


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on July 08, 2009, 12:28:35 AM
The memorial was very beautiful.  I have to admit I was crying pretty much from the moment I started watching it, and I really had to let loose during the "We are the World" part.  It seemed so perfect since all that song represented was so important to him.  His daughter at the end was absolutely heartbreaking.  I even really enjoyed Al Sharpton's speech and thought he made some very important points about the impact MJ had on the world.  This made it all too real that Michael Jackson is actually gone, and that fact is very hard for me to wrap my head around.  It was a beautiful remembrance of a beautiful life and very fitting the King of Pop.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Bill 213 on July 08, 2009, 12:49:49 AM
I truly thought the best part was Jermaine singing "Smile".....that's such a beautiful song as it is and he really put so much emotion into it. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: kmorgan on July 08, 2009, 01:08:47 AM
It was wonderful.  He sang it perfectly.  I don't know how he did it.  Must have been very hard for him.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 08, 2009, 05:36:01 AM
what kills me is how stupid fucking reporters have to throw in their bullshit during this beautiful service. talking about his look etc


Jackson didn't try to be a "white' person

he had a skin disease that put blotches of white all over his skin, so if he did anything, it was just so he wouldn't look like a checkerboard.

I also hope that last family that accused him of that bullshit get fucking Dextered.

bastards stole his life IMO


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 08, 2009, 06:23:51 AM
I've been catching bits and pieces of the service here and there between homework breaks.  So sad.  I want people to remember him the way his daughter eulogized him.

It goes to show you what kind of unifying force he was, still is.  I disliked him as a child, never really cared for him until he passed on.  I've been watching some of his stuff on the YouTubes and VH1 Classic.  I'm not gonna say anything no one has said before about his talent and stage presence, everyone knows about his gifts.  And I just can't help feeling sad every time I think about him.  His death kinda mellowed me out.  I try not to feel so strongly about stupid things.  And I want to help people even more than before, in any way I can.

I still can't get over the fact that the very same media that ruined him is now singing his praises. 

Wonder where they will bury him.  He's still at the Staples Center.  It's a little spooky for me to think about, for I spend a lot of time there and know the place inside and out.  Maybe he's hanging out in one of the locker rooms?

Even Elvis didn't have a send off like this.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 08, 2009, 06:26:09 AM
BTW, an interesting bit of trivia.

Bill Bailey invented the moonwalk.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 08, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
I've been catching bits and pieces of the service here and there between homework breaks.  So sad.  I want people to remember him the way his daughter eulogized him.

It goes to show you what kind of unifying force he was, still is.  I disliked him as a child, never really cared for him until he passed on.  I've been watching some of his stuff on the YouTubes and VH1 Classic.  I'm not gonna say anything no one has said before about his talent and stage presence, everyone knows about his gifts.  And I just can't help feeling sad every time I think about him.  His death kinda mellowed me out.  I try not to feel so strongly about stupid things.  And I want to help people even more than before, in any way I can.

I still can't get over the fact that the very same media that ruined him is now singing his praises. 

Wonder where they will bury him.  He's still at the Staples Center.  It's a little spooky for me to think about, for I spend a lot of time there and know the place inside and out.  Maybe he's hanging out in one of the locker rooms?

Even Elvis didn't have a send off like this.
My guess is that his body may not have even been in that coffin at all.  Pretty risky I would say, but I could be wrong they had tons of security who knows right!!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 08, 2009, 10:20:49 AM
I've been catching bits and pieces of the service here and there between homework breaks.  So sad.  I want people to remember him the way his daughter eulogized him.

It goes to show you what kind of unifying force he was, still is.  I disliked him as a child, never really cared for him until he passed on.  I've been watching some of his stuff on the YouTubes and VH1 Classic.  I'm not gonna say anything no one has said before about his talent and stage presence, everyone knows about his gifts.  And I just can't help feeling sad every time I think about him.  His death kinda mellowed me out.  I try not to feel so strongly about stupid things.  And I want to help people even more than before, in any way I can.

I still can't get over the fact that the very same media that ruined him is now singing his praises. 

Wonder where they will bury him.  He's still at the Staples Center.  It's a little spooky for me to think about, for I spend a lot of time there and know the place inside and out.  Maybe he's hanging out in one of the locker rooms?

Even Elvis didn't have a send off like this.
It reminded me of when Princess Diana died. I felt like I lost a family member when we lost her. I even signed her condolence book. Michael's children are stunningly gorgeous. i hope they don't end up with Debbie Rowe. They need to keep all 3 together. i never realized how much MJ's music impacted me until now. I never could moonwalk though.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 08, 2009, 10:38:38 AM
See, I never understood the Princess Diana thing

what did she do? Being born isn't a talent or a gift so I really didn't care about that.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Leddy on July 08, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
See, I never understood the Princess Diana thing

what did she do? Being born isn't a talent or a gift so I really didn't care about that.

She wasn't Born into royalty, she became a Princess through marriage.  She represented a stark contrast to Prince Charles and the rest of the royals.

The British Royal Family has always been very stuffy, staid and conservative.  She was a breath of fresh air as not only was she glamorous, she also had a unique empathy and wore her heart on her sleeve. 

She hugged kids with AIDS in Africa, at a time when ignorance around the disease had people believing it was as contagious as flu, and those suffering the disease should be treated as biblical era lepers.  She was a fine humanitarian that used her elevated position to bring to the public eye unfashionable (at the time) causes.

She was far from perfect though, and her indiscretions were heavily reported at the time, but it was perhaps these flaws that also ingratiated her to the British public.  She was very human.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 08, 2009, 11:25:31 AM
See, I never understood the Princess Diana thing

what did she do? Being born isn't a talent or a gift so I really didn't care about that.

She wasn't Born into royalty, she became a Princess through marriage.  She represented a stark contrast to Prince Charles and the rest of the royals.

The British Royal Family has always been very stuffy, staid and conservative.  She was a breath of fresh air as not only was she glamorous, she also had a unique empathy and wore her heart on her sleeve. 

She hugged kids with AIDS in Africa, at a time when ignorance around the disease had people believing it was as contagious as flu, and those suffering the disease should be treated as biblical era lepers.  She was a fine humanitarian that used her elevated position to bring to the public eye unfashionable (at the time) causes.

She was far from perfect though, and her indiscretions were heavily reported at the time, but it was perhaps these flaws that also ingratiated her to the British public.  She was very human.
Well said. She just added joy to the world. When she was alive, it was so exciting to go to London. Her fashion was so inspirational, you would see people on the street who inspired you to go clothes shopping. The last time I was in London in 2007, things just weren't the same. People didn't dress as well and they seemed less joyful. I discussed this on a bus with an older English lady who agreed with me. Diana was the people's princess. Her brother's euology was so moving. When I signed her condolene book at the British Embassy in Chicago, there were people from all walks of life. And I adored Elton John's song. She did leave behind 2 wonderful sons.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: ppbebe on July 08, 2009, 01:03:51 PM
agreed she was even learnt in dactylology.

she wasn't a commoner tho. born aristocracy.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 08, 2009, 06:28:49 PM
agreed she was even learnt in dactylology.

she wasn't a commoner tho. born aristocracy.


Her father was a descendant of King Charles the third of England, who later became the 8th Earl Spencer.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: norway on July 08, 2009, 06:48:08 PM
Dirty Diana! ;D

Was a very nice funeral, what an amazing artist he was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6dx3Zm86P4

Moonwalk-collection.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Drew on July 08, 2009, 09:07:46 PM
The American Idol and Twitter-head mentality of people all around the world never ceases to amaze me. Hopefully, this around the clock orgasmic media coverage can finally come to an end!

If there ever was a 'shovel-ready' project, we have here a fantastic example!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: axlrosegnr on July 08, 2009, 09:30:13 PM
The American Idol and Twitter-head mentality of people all around the world never ceases to amaze me. Hopefully, this around the clock orgasmic media coverage can finally come to an end!

If there ever was a 'shovel-ready' project, we have here a fantastic example!


I very much agree


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 09, 2009, 09:00:36 AM
the constant media coverage is making me depressed. Let the man rest in peace.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on July 09, 2009, 09:51:22 AM
The American Idol and Twitter-head mentality of people all around the world never ceases to amaze me. Hopefully, this around the clock orgasmic media coverage can finally come to an end!

Yeah, the media never had over-the-top coverage of anything before Twitter and American Idol came out... they CERTAINLY never had over-the-top coverage of Michael Jackson before Twitter or American Idol.

Wait, what?


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Bodhi on July 09, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
 I can do without the false reports about Jackson's life which is what a lot of media outlets are doing (especially british papers, they just make shit up off the top of their heads and run with it.  No research goes into any of the trash they print.)

However having said that, Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer to ever live.  He is also the most successful.  All the bands we talk about in the Bad Obsession section that we consider legendary like Pearl Jam, Metallica, Zeppelin etc..are not even a pimple on Jackson's ass when it comes to worldwide recognition and success.  There will never be another Michael Jackson....EVER.  He is in a class of his own with Elvis Presley and The Beatles and Stones a notch below looking up at both of them.  So if the media wants to go wild 24 hours a day with Jacksonmania I have no problem with that...


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 09, 2009, 04:56:24 PM
I can do without the false reports about Jackson's life which is what a lot of media outlets are doing (especially british papers, they just make shit up off the top of their heads and run with it.  No research goes into any of the trash they print.)

However having said that, Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer to ever live.  He is also the most successful.  All the bands we talk about in the Bad Obsession section that we consider legendary like Pearl Jam, Metallica, Zeppelin etc..are not even a pimple on Jackson's ass when it comes to worldwide recognition and success.  There will never be another Michael Jackson....EVER.  He is in a class of his own with Elvis Presley and The Beatles and Stones a notch below looking up at both of them.  So if the media wants to go wild 24 hours a day with Jacksonmania I have no problem with that...

Very well fucking said! Hell yeah!

How bout this bullshit where they are trying to say those aren't Micheal's kids? I'd love to shoot those bastards. It's a fucking shame those people are allowed to live.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 09, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
I can do without the false reports about Jackson's life which is what a lot of media outlets are doing (especially british papers, they just make shit up off the top of their heads and run with it.  No research goes into any of the trash they print.)

However having said that, Michael Jackson is the greatest entertainer to ever live.  He is also the most successful.  All the bands we talk about in the Bad Obsession section that we consider legendary like Pearl Jam, Metallica, Zeppelin etc..are not even a pimple on Jackson's ass when it comes to worldwide recognition and success.  There will never be another Michael Jackson....EVER.  He is in a class of his own with Elvis Presley and The Beatles and Stones a notch below looking up at both of them.  So if the media wants to go wild 24 hours a day with Jacksonmania I have no problem with that...

Very well fucking said! Hell yeah!

How bout this bullshit where they are trying to say those aren't Micheal's kids? I'd love to shoot those bastards. It's a fucking shame those people are allowed to live.
The 2 boys have his eyes. The girl looks like her mother. Who cares if they are his biological kids or not. They loved him and he loved them. One of my African american friends says sthat she can see that they are biracial. You just never know how the gene pool is going to flow. Blanket looks like a paler version of little Michael.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 09, 2009, 06:13:53 PM
Those kids look just like MJ


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Drew on July 09, 2009, 08:16:00 PM
Yeah, the media never had over-the-top coverage of anything before Twitter and American Idol came out... they CERTAINLY never had over-the-top coverage of Michael Jackson before Twitter or American Idol.

Wait, what?

You missed my point. I was talking about the American Idol and Twitter people who inhabit Earth as we speak. People who can't get enough of their celebrity fix every day and who sit on their fat ass day after day glued to the television.

Sadly, the media is just giving what a lot you people want for some reason. Your tragic idol worshiping t.v.!  ::)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 09, 2009, 10:35:06 PM
It's probably pointless to post this on the internet because I won't be believed anyway but a friend of mine has been in touch with someone who knew Michael and spoke with him only about 3 hours before his death and Michael allegedly told this guy what was wrong with him. Don't be surprised if it turns out this was something more than a sudden overdose or drug addiction.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: axlrosegnr on July 09, 2009, 10:58:25 PM
It's probably pointless to post this on the internet because I won't be believed anyway but a friend of mine has been in touch with someone who knew Michael and spoke with him only about 3 hours before his death and Michael allegedly told this guy what was wrong with him. Don't be surprised if it turns out this was something more than a sudden overdose or drug addiction.

So did this guy tell your friend what Michael said?


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: The Catcher on July 09, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
It's probably pointless to post this on the internet because I won't be believed anyway but a friend of mine has been in touch with someone who knew Michael and spoke with him only about 3 hours before his death and Michael allegedly told this guy what was wrong with him. Don't be surprised if it turns out this was something more than a sudden overdose or drug addiction.

So did this guy tell your friend what Michael said?

No, the guy wanted to keep it private out of respect for his friendship with Michael. Sounds odd to bring it up if that's the case, but that's what I was told. All I know is what I said in the above post. It was 3 hours before his death, if the guy was telling the truth, and he used the words "told me what was wrong with him". That implies to me that it wasn't anything sudden, and not necessarily drug abuse. But these are just speculations from my side, and I don't even know if the guy was telling the truth. It also made me realize that if this is the truth then Michael probably called or talked to more than this one person about what was wrong with him, especially if it was 3 hours before death and he knew that he was going to die, and that means a few people out there close to Michael must know a hell of a lot more than the media but are not talking out of respect for Michael, like this guy. It's an odd feeling to know that this is info that CNN and other media have no idea about. They clearly don't know the half of what people around Michael who keep their lips sealed know.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 10, 2009, 05:25:37 AM
The other day, I just started writing and writing and writing, until - out of the blue - I had this huge tribute that reads like a magazine article.  I tend to use it as therapy... it's far too long to be able to fit here, so I'll just post the link to where I posted it on the Loaded forum.

http://www.duff-loaded.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=1641&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

I never expected anyone to read it because it's so long, but I keep on getting messages from people telling me how much they liked it.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 10, 2009, 09:48:47 AM
Thanks for sharing your story with all of us, it was truly beautiful from start to finish.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 10, 2009, 10:54:39 AM
Thankyou for that great story. You helped me understand why i have been feeling such a sense of loss. People have made so many judgements against Michael without knowing the full truth. I didn't realize how much his music was a part of my life, even though I never purchased one of his records, there was so much of it that was played at college frat parties, MTV etc.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on July 11, 2009, 03:09:01 AM
Jackson with my favorite singer of all time.  Wouldn't it be something if those two were up in heaven singing together?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zci9vHAEMY&feature=related



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 15, 2009, 09:01:06 AM
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8766

Michael Jackson Albums Sales Hit1.1 Million In USA
by Paul Cashmere - July 15 2009


If you ever needed any proof that Michael Jackson deserved his King of Pop title here it is. Jackson album sales were 1.1 million in the last week in the USA.


Nielsen SoundScan, the company that keeps tabs on music sales, registered a combined total of around 10,000 Jackson album units in the week prior to his death.

In the four days following his death, Jackson album sales were 422,000. In the first full week of sales of his death he sold 800,000 albums. Last week, the graph went past the million mark.

In the past 2 ? weeks, Jackson album sales have exceeded 2.3 million.

Last weeks biggest seller according to Nielsen Soundscan was ?#1?s? (349,000), followed by ?Thriller? (264,000) followed by ?The Essential Michael Jackson? (148,000).

Billboard reports that ?Off The Wall? sold 107,000 units last week, ?Bad? did 97,000 and ?Dangerous? sold 67,000.

Fans have bought 1.8 million physical albums since Michael?s death and 491,000 digital albums.

Nielsen SoundScan also tracks digital sales across North America, Europe, Australia and New Zealand.

In the past 2 ? weeks Jackson has sold 8.1 million digital tracks.

The most popular download is ?Man In The Mirror? (628,000) followed by ?Billie Jean? (557,000) followed by ?Thriller? (544,000).

In Billboards Top Pop Catalog Albums Chart this week, the Top 12 albums are all Jackson albums.

1) Michael Jackson "Number Ones"
2) Michael Jackson "The Essential Michael Jackson"
3) Michael Jackson "Thriller"
4) Michael Jackson "Off The Wall"
5) Michael Jackson "Bad"
6) Michael Jackson "Dangerous"
7) Jackson 5 "The Ultimate Collection"
8) Jackson 5 "The Best of Jackson 5: 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection"
9) Michael Jackson "Greatest Hits: HIStory ? Volume 1"
10) Michael Jackson "HIStory: Past, Present and Future Book 1"
11) Michael Jackson "Invincible"
12) Michael Jackson "The Ultimate Collection"



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: norway on July 15, 2009, 09:56:26 AM

http://nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/514088/

Concert here, at the end MJ comes in and plays with Slash. :D


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on July 16, 2009, 12:24:11 AM
First ever footage of Michael Jackson's hair being set on fire...

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/07/15/michael-jackson-pepsi-ad-footage-unearthed-from-1984-shoot/

Scary stuff!  Though it does sort of look like a bunch of gangbangers coming to kick his ass once they first rush the stage...


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 16, 2009, 12:32:50 AM
First ever footage of Michael Jackson's hair being set on fire...

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/07/15/michael-jackson-pepsi-ad-footage-unearthed-from-1984-shoot/

Scary stuff!  Though it does sort of look like a bunch of gangbangers coming to kick his ass once they first rush the stage...
I know that had to be scary for him because it didn't look like he knew his hair was on fire.  Though the fire extinguisher probably gave it away.  Sucks to think that could've been THE incident that got him hooked on pain killers.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: loretian on July 16, 2009, 02:55:26 PM
Clip of a new song Michael Jackson was working, from TMZ: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3 (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: $$$$ on July 16, 2009, 05:52:11 PM
First ever footage of Michael Jackson's hair being set on fire...

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/07/15/michael-jackson-pepsi-ad-footage-unearthed-from-1984-shoot/

Scary stuff!  Though it does sort of look like a bunch of gangbangers coming to kick his ass once they first rush the stage...
I know that had to be scary for him because it didn't look like he knew his hair was on fire.  Though the fire extinguisher probably gave it away.  Sucks to think that could've been THE incident that got him hooked on pain killers.

apparently thats when his obsession with plastic surgery started as well :-\


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: D on July 16, 2009, 06:25:50 PM
Clip of a new song Michael Jackson was working, from TMZ: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3 (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3)

awesome!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on July 16, 2009, 11:34:40 PM
Clip of a new song Michael Jackson was working, from TMZ: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3 (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3)

awesome!
Reminds me a lot of Horse With No Name.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 17, 2009, 12:29:34 AM
Clip of a new song Michael Jackson was working, from TMZ: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3 (http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3)

awesome!
Reminds me a lot of Horse With No Name.
Yeah the TMZ article I read said he paid for the rights for "Horse With No Name" so he could use the same beat, song structure, etc.  Sounds pretty good, in that short clip.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 17, 2009, 09:57:04 AM
The author of "Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson" was on the Howard Stern show earlier this week and he gave quite an interesting interview.  This is a bit lengthy but it's a good read.

http://www.marksfriggin.com/news.htm#wed

Author Ian Halperin Talks About Michael Jackson Molestation Case. 07/15/09. 7:50am
Howard said that this author Ian Halperin was working on a book about Michael Jackson (Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson) and found that he wasn't a child molester. Ian said he set out to nail Michael Jackson but he found out that he wasn't what he expected.
Ian told Howard that in 2005 he thought that Jackson was guilty so he set out on this odyssey to find everything he could. He said he found that 4 years later he didn't molest any kids. He said that what he found in the court documents and things like that proved that he wasn't a child molester.

Ian said that Joe Jackson treated his son like crap and beat the crap out of him. He said that anyone who knew Michael as a child would be able to tell you that. Howard said that's what it seems like and Joe is claiming that he's the one who molded his son into the performer he was.

Ian said that there are a lot of people coming out of the woodwork right now who weren't there for Michael in the past couple of years. They're all coming out and supporting him now that he's gone.

Ian said Michael didn't want his father around him either. He said that all he wanted was Michael's money. He said he burned Michael repeatedly and Michael didn't trust him. He said that Michael didn't get the proper childhood and that's why we saw him with kids all the time. He loved kids and always tried to help them. He said he tried to bring people together and used Neverland to do that.

Ian said that Michael Jackson is not a child molester. He said he dug up a court document from 1993 that showed that Michael was forced to settle that case and he was insisting not to settle but the insurance company forced him to. He said that the kid, Jordan Chandler, claimed that Jackson was circumcised and had blotches on his penis. The cops raided his house and made him strip down to be photographed. It turns out he was uncircumcised and Jordan's description didn't match.

Howard said he didn't know the insurance company made him settle. Ian said that all of this is in his book. He said that in 2005 there was another case and the people involved weren't that credible. Ian said he came there and wanted to crack the story. He said he spoke to Johnny Cochran one time and Johnny told him that they didn't win their case, the prosecution lost their case.

Ian said that he doesn't truest Debbie Rowe either. He said that she's trying to extort money from the family to avoid taking her kids from them. He said that's just not right and he would never do such a thing with his own kids.

Ian said that Michael was a great father from what he could tell. He said he met Michael in person but never got to interview the kids. He said that the time Michael held the kid over the balcony he was high on drugs. He said that you have to look at the doctors who were giving him that stuff.

Howard asked Ian about Jackson's kids and how he kept them in masks all the time. The kids don't even know other kids because of that. Ian said that Michael was the most famous person out there and he was trying to protect them from the paparazzi. He said it makes sense and he home schooled them himself. Howard and Robin sounded shocked by that. Ian said that Michael was very educated. He said that he studied everything and he was very literate. He said he was well read too.

Howard said that Ian predicted that Michael only had about 6 months to love about 6 months ago. He asked Ian about that and how that prediction came about. Ian said that he checked into some private medical records and found that he could die at any second because he had anorexia, lung disease and some other health issues. He said that he could have died of a heart attack based on the anorexia alone.

Howard asked if Michael knew about the book. Ian said that he did and he was supportive of it when he found out that he was sympathetic.

Ian said that his book came out in December and Jackson's people said that it was a complete fabrication. He said that they then planned the 50 show tour and expected Jackson to do all of that.

Howard said that they claim that Jackson was a schizophrenic. Ian said that's what he was told. He didn't make that claim himself. He said that Joe Jackson turned a blind eye to that and didn't get him help. All he wanted to do was make as much money as possible. Ian said he hopes that the child welfare intervenes and doesn't let Joe get custody of the kids. He said that they might think that they have another Michael Jackson on their hands.

Howard said he saw that Debbie Rowe, the mother of the kids, doesn't even want the kids. She has never wanted them but now she's trying to get money from the family and claiming that she does want the kids. Ian said Joe wants the kids and wants to put them on tour and to give them record deals.

Howard said that now that the kids are out of their masks nothing crazy has happened. Ian said Michael just wanted to keep them out of the spotlight. The family went against his wishes and exposed the kids to the world. They're just trying to make money off of Michael.

Howard asked about Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. Ian said that he had infiltrated the church of Scientology and he heard a lot of talk about getting Michael to join. They used Lisa Marie to get to Michael. That's what that was all about. He said that there were people claiming that's what happened and they asked Lisa go marry the guy to get him involved with the church.

Howard asked why it would be so important to Lisa Marie to get him into that church. He said he had Lisa Marie on the show and she claims that she was really in love with Michael. He doesn't get why she would want to be involved with the church in that way though.

Ian said that it's rumored that Lisa Marie was pressured to marry Michael. He said he's not sure if that's true or not. Then there's the homosexuality thing. Ian claims that he found out that there are some men out there who claim that they have had homosexual encounters with Michael Jackson.

Ian said he heard rumors from Michael's mother that he was gay. He said he heard that she called him a ''fag.'' Ian said he looked into the allegations and found 8 men who claimed that they had slept with Michael. He said that he found 8 but only went with 3 because he needed extreme corroboration to make sure they were being real. He said that he found out that Michael would dress up as a woman when he was with these guys. Ian said that he would dress as a woman to get out of the hotels without being recognized. He would get rooms in Las Vegas that had cockroaches in them. He said he found out about one construction worker in Vegas and the guy had time lines and all of the information that he needed to prove that he had been with him.

Ian said that Jackson didn't come out as being gay because he thought people would think he was a pedophile. He said that Jackson was also afraid that being black and gay would be even tougher than being white and gay. Ian also claims that several people told Jackson that he shouldn't come out because of the race factor.

Ian said that Michael did fall in love with some gay men. He said that he liked guys who were 18-23 years old. Howard asked if they were muscular guys. Ian said they were toned guys and the construction worker was Asian. Howard asked if there was anything kinky going on. Ian said that they claimed that he liked to lick the guy's ''lollipops.''

Howard asked Ian how Michael met this construction worker. Ian said Michael was living in Vegas at the time and he was roaming around meeting them. He met a waiter in a restaurant and the next night they were in a hotel together.



Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on July 17, 2009, 09:57:34 AM
Howard asked Ian about his book and found out he worked for 5 years on it. He did 5 years of research. He said this was his 12th book and he had to max out some credit cards while he was working on it. He said he did get an advance but not enough to last 5 years. He said he had to take a risk though.

Ian told Howard about he and his wife breaking up and how things are still okay between them. He said that they're both artists and they just had to get away from each other.

Ian said he really thinks that the courts have to step in and take the kids away from the Jackson family. He said he doesn't trust the Jacksons or even Debbie Rowe. He said they might need to be put into a family other than both of those.

Ian told Howard that Michael wanted the kids to go to his mother or Diana Ross. Howard asked why he would give the kids to a woman who could have been a part of the mental abuse. Ian said there is talk that there might be another will out there and the one that's out there now isn't going to hold up.

Howard said he has changed his will a bunch of times. He said he changes it whenever he's mouthed off to. He said he's changed it about 10 times.

Ian said that they have to look at the doctors in the Jackson case and also into the police force. Howard asked Ian if he believes what's going on around this guy. Howard said he's not sure why they're so fascinated by the whole thing.

Howard gave Ian a plug for his book ''Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson.'' The book is at number 2 on the best seller list right now.

Robin asked if Michael was obsessed with Nazis. Ian said that he did have some Nazi outfits and he would wear them around the house. Ian said that he had some songs about the Jews and he was bitter about the way he was treated by some Jews.

Howard asked if he really slept in a hyperbaric chamber. Ian said that was true too. He said that Michael knew how to spin a tale. Ian said Michael had plastic surgery and claimed it was only twice. They know better than that. He said he was trying to change his look so he didn't look like anyone in his family.

Howard said that Michael blamed Tommy Mottola for one of his albums tanking and Tommy had to talk some sense into the guy. He said that Michael was about the blame game but then he'd go out and spend all of his money on all kinds of nonsense. Ian said he made some bad decisions and he was millions of dollars in debt when he died.

Howard said the one thing that kept him afloat was the Beatles catalog that he bought. Ian said that was the only thing that kept him going.

Howard said Michael had assets but it didn't all balance out. Ian said he was living in Dubai for a while and he was being supported by some guy out there. He said that's the only reason he thought about doing the come back.

Ian said that he was on a show in London the day he announced his tour and told them that the concerts would never happen. Ian said that he was proven right when he made that prediction.

Howard asked Ian if he liked his music. Howard said he never liked it. Ian asked if he had ever danced to any of his songs. Howard said he never did. He said he can't even dance to any song. He demonstrated for Ian and then went over and danced with Ian. Robin said that's the first guest Howard has ever danced with like that.

Ian said that Michael's music as moving for him. Howard said he didn't like it. They spent a minute going back and forth on that. Artie said that the dancing is going to be number one on Howard TV for months once it airs.

Howard took a call from a guy who said that this guy's story doesn't check out. He said that the guy has just been sucking Michael off. He said that there's no way Michael was out in Vegas dressing like a woman and going out. Howard said he thinks that he could have done that. Ian defended himself and said that he's got the proof in his book.

Howard said that when he was dating he was able to get about 1,300 lovers in 2 weeks and he was able to keep it quiet and secret. Howard said that there are ways to be clandestine about what you're doing and he thinks that Michael could have done that kind of thing.

Ian said that Michael was gay and ''so what?'' He said that he finds it highly insulting that this caller is saying what he's saying. He said that the important thing is getting the kids help and not bashing Michael Jackson. He said that they should let the guy rest in peace.

Irish John called in and said that there were a lot of allegations about Michael giving alcohol to kids. He asked if that was true. Ian said there was truth to that. He said that Jackson had alcohol addiction and he had to go to rehab for that. No one but Liz Taylor did anything about it. She urged him to check into rehab.

John asked what the purpose of giving the kids alcohol. Ian said that Martin Bashir did an interview with Jackson and Bashir used Jackson while he was addicted to drugs to manipulate him. He said that Jackson had a lapse of judgment and he suffered the consequences.

Ian said that Jackson loved kids and he didn't want to have sex with them, he just wanted to bring kids together. Irish John asked him if he ever ''infiltrated'' Jackson himself. Howard said that was a little too much and cut John off.

Howard talked to Ian about Jackson sleeping with young boys. Ian said he wouldn't let his kids do that but there are some people who were okay with that.

Another caller said that Howard's bullshit meter should be going crazy with this guy. He said that this guy has to be making this stuff up. Ian said that he has to read the book before he says that. The caller said that this guy wrote the book to sell. Artie said there isn't any other reason to write a book.

Ian said that he wrote the book before Michael died. He said that the book was on the presses when he died and he had to stop them and add a chapter and change the title of the book. He said that he should read the book before he bashes it though.

Mariann from Brooklyn called in and asked him why he didn't call social services about him. Howard said Ian thinks that he was a good father. Ian said that if you present him with the smoking gun then he'll write about that. He said he wrote about what he found. He said he set out to nail the guy but it turns out he couldn't. He said he thought that they had another OJ on their hands but that's not what he found.

Artie asked Ian if he thinks that he was such a junkie that he would really shoot up in his neck. Ian said that he was a junkie and he wouldn't have been alive without some of the drugs he was on. He said that Jackson had to deliver the goods and he had become despondent toward the end. He said that the AEG people put out the video of Jackson were saying that he was perfectly healthy the day after he died.

Ian said that they examined the video and they're saying that Jackson wasn't in fine form and he was out of sync and even Jackson said that he felt like a marathon runner after doing just one song. He wasn't going to be able to pull off the tour.

Artie said that maybe AEG had a motive to murder the guy if he was worth more dead than alive. Ian said that they could have gone bankrupt if he hadn't been able to pull it off. Howard said he thinks that they thought that he was going to pull it off and they weren't out to get the guy. Ian said he's not claiming murder. He said that he's pretty sure that the authorities have their act together out there and know what they're doing.

Robin asked how Michael passed a physical for the tour. Ian said that he offered to pay for a medical exam to find out what the real deal was.

Howard asked if Neverland is going to become some kind of shrine for Jackson. Ian said it will. He was bailed out by a guy and he's part owner in that ranch. He said he's got details on that as well and he has barely hit the tip of the iceberg with what he's spoken about today. Howard said that he's given away so much that people won't want to buy the book.

Howard gave Ian some more plugs for his book and thanked him for coming in. He told him to do his next book on the life of Artie Lange. Artie said he's writing that book himself. Howard had to go to break a short time later.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Annie on July 17, 2009, 10:43:12 AM
That was intense. i wonder how much of it is true?


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on July 17, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
That was intense. i wonder how much of it is true?

I don't believe any of the homosexuality stuff.

Scratch that... I just went and re-read the whole thing, and his story just gets more and more over-the-top and bullshit as it goes along.  Classic example of a guy trying to cash in.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 10, 2009, 05:29:31 PM
i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

:peace:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on August 10, 2009, 07:10:38 PM
i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

:peace:
It would be cool if a megastar could fake their death one day.  But I don't think that's the case here.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: CheapJon on August 10, 2009, 07:22:03 PM
i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

:peace:
no way


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on August 10, 2009, 09:09:07 PM
i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

:peace:

....And he would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't fer them pesky kids.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlsMainMan on August 10, 2009, 10:24:24 PM
He just bought 2Pac and JFK another round of rum and Cokes in Cuba.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on August 11, 2009, 07:14:18 AM
A documentary including rehearsal footage as well as other behind the scenes stuff, called "This Is It" will be released in cinemas all over the world on October 30th, 2009.  It was announced yesterday... I'll be there. ;D


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on August 11, 2009, 08:35:34 AM
Also

Jermaine Jackson Confirms Michael Jackson Tribute For Vienna
by Music-News.com - August 11 2009


Jermaine Jackson appeared on The Michael Jackson Show starring Larry King again and has confirmed there will be a tribute show for his brother.


A Michael Jackson tribute show is to be staged in Vienna.

Events promoter World Awards Media GmbH confirmed the concert today (10.08.09), saying it will feature members of the late 'King of Pop?s family, including brother Jermaine, and a 'high-profile line-up of international stars'.

The organisation said on its website: 'For one incredible night Michael Jackson's unforgettable music will be brought to life again. Some of the world's leading artists will perform Michael's greatest hits live in Vienna in front of one of the most fascinating historical sites in Europe and celebrate the life of the 'King of Pop?.'

Jermaine adds on the site: 'I am very proud to be able to stage this concert honoring my younger brother Michael and his legacy. The tribute is conceived to be an annual event to keep not only his unique music alive, but his spirit as well. Michael loved people and he also loved to help people and that will never be forgotten. His life was much too short, yet it was filled with many magic moments and lasting memories. I have lost a dear brother, but the world has lost a great and caring humanitarian.'

Then event is to take place at the Schoenbrunn Palace ? which can accommodate 85,000 people - in the Austrian capital next month, and will feature a crown-shaped stage.

Further details are yet to be released, although tickets will go on sale on August 20.

Unconfirmed reports suggest U2, Madonna, Lionel Richie and Whitney Houston could all be performing.

It was originally thought a tribute show might take place on what would have been Michael?s 51st birthday on August 29, but that idea has now been dismissed.

World Awards Media?s Georg Kindel explained: 'That would have been an extreme logistical challenge.'

Michael was due to stage 50-night residency in London starting just a few weeks after his death on June 25, and many had presumed a concert in honour of him would take place in the UK capital.

However, Jermaine recently claimed Vienna was of special importance to Michael.

He said: 'Vienna was a very dear place for Michael. And he loved castles. And we're going to have this huge celebration in front of a castle.'

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8970


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 12, 2009, 01:18:53 AM
He just bought 2Pac and JFK another round of rum and Cokes in Cuba.

you forgot big E


is anyone else wishing he was still alive just so TV guide, CNN, and msnbc would shut the fuck up about him? seriously, enoughs enough


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on August 12, 2009, 04:47:48 AM
Nope... I'm wishing he was still alive for purely unselfish reasons instead.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on August 12, 2009, 07:49:41 AM
He just bought 2Pac and JFK another round of rum and Cokes in Cuba.

you forgot big E


is anyone else wishing he was still alive just so TV guide, CNN, and msnbc would shut the fuck up about him? seriously, enoughs enough
Yes I agree!! Last nights TV guide had all these potential people claiming to be either the birth mom of the first two children, another lady claiming to be Blankets mom, and two different men claiming to be doners, while Jermaine is claiming Michael to be bio to the oldest two.  I have to admit this is wierder all the time.  How is it possible he has these three children and no one seems to know who their parents truely are, at least biologicaly. 


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: CheapJon on August 12, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
Nope... I'm wishing he was still alive for purely unselfish reasons instead.
same here, but since he's dead i'd wish the media and attention whores would leave it be for the childrens sake


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on August 12, 2009, 10:59:50 AM
Nope... I'm wishing he was still alive for purely unselfish reasons instead.
same here, but since he's dead i'd wish the media and attention whores would leave it be for the childrens sake

Yes... I do wish they'd shut up with some of these bullshit stories, too.  I really hate the amount of people who are crawling out of the woodwork, selling their crap and profiting from his death.  And does it really matter who those kids biological parents are?  All that matters is that he was the person who was there for them and raised them, regardless.  My father isn't the biological father of my brother and sister, but they still treat him as such.

Some things, though, like people celebrating his life and music, etc.  I see no problem with that, because it's been nice to finally hear people say positive things about him.  It's hardly ever happened over the last 20 years, and the personal attacks were getting more and more cruel and intense as time went on... I'll enjoy the positivity while it lasts.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on August 12, 2009, 02:20:17 PM
Nope... I'm wishing he was still alive for purely unselfish reasons instead.
same here, but since he's dead i'd wish the media and attention whores would leave it be for the childrens sake

(http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/categories/HelenLovejoy_t630.jpg)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Albert S Miller on August 12, 2009, 10:54:53 PM
Nicely said MrRedfield :).


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jdog0830 on August 13, 2009, 12:00:52 AM
I'm sorry but at this point I'm sick of hearing about this event I know it sad but we've heard enough of it I this I think


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on August 17, 2009, 02:53:18 AM
Legend or not, the coverage is getting quite old. One of my friends became obsessed with him solely because he died, and before that, I never heard a peep from her about MJ. I understand that he was a great performer and musician, but this is getting tiresome.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: AxlReznor on August 17, 2009, 06:34:11 AM
Not as tiresome as all of these complaints.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jdog0830 on August 17, 2009, 07:44:20 PM
Not as tiresome as all of these complaints.
then tell the media to cover something that maters like Iraq or Afganistand


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: BlowUpYourVideo on August 17, 2009, 08:41:29 PM
I can understand why people get tired of the news reports (in the UK, I think it's starting to disappear), but realistically, this is a big event. Someone as famous/important/controversial as Michael Jackson dying suddenly is only going to generate huge amounts of coverage.


TBH, I'm not sure what other musician/entertainer would receive so much coverage if they died tomorrow....


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on August 17, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
Legend or not, the coverage is getting quite old. One of my friends became obsessed with him solely because he died, and before that, I never heard a peep from her about MJ. I understand that he was a great performer and musician, but this is getting tiresome.

lol your friends a sheep. it seems shes just caring now and paying attension now because everyone else is, its just the hottest new trend (sarcasm)

i garentee he's still alive, when they finally decide where to put him he's gonna spring to life like the zombies in thriller

(http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/michael-jackson-zombie-thriller.jpg)


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jdog0830 on August 18, 2009, 09:07:43 PM
Legend or not, the coverage is getting quite old. One of my friends became obsessed with him solely because he died, and before that, I never heard a peep from her about MJ. I understand that he was a great performer and musician, but this is getting tiresome.

lol your friends a sheep. it seems shes just caring now and paying attension now because everyone else is, its just the hottest new trend (sarcasm)

i garentee he's still alive, when they finally decide where to put him he's gonna spring to life like the zombies in thriller

(http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/michael-jackson-zombie-thriller.jpg)
i agree the white MJ is dead not the black one  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Eazy E on August 19, 2009, 09:32:34 AM
I can understand why people get tired of the news reports (in the UK, I think it's starting to disappear), but realistically, this is a big event. Someone as famous/important/controversial as Michael Jackson dying suddenly is only going to generate huge amounts of coverage.


TBH, I'm not sure what other musician/entertainer would receive so much coverage if they died tomorrow....

Doesn't matter.  The only thing that should ever be covered by the news is what's happening in Iraq or Afghanistan.


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jdog0830 on August 19, 2009, 08:03:06 PM
I can understand why people get tired of the news reports (in the UK, I think it's starting to disappear), but realistically, this is a big event. Someone as famous/important/controversial as Michael Jackson dying suddenly is only going to generate huge amounts of coverage.


TBH, I'm not sure what other musician/entertainer would receive so much coverage if they died tomorrow....

Doesn't matter.  The only thing that should ever be covered by the news is what's happening in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I think they should cover it but not let it get more coverage than Afghanistan, or Iraq


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on October 28, 2009, 10:38:00 PM
You've been hit by a smooth criminal!


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: Jdog0830 on October 29, 2009, 09:59:30 PM
You've been hit by a smooth criminal!
Wtf is that suppose to mean???


Title: Re: Michael Jackson Dead
Post by: faldor on October 29, 2009, 11:26:57 PM
You've been hit by a smooth criminal!
Wtf is that suppose to mean???
This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xct5t8Ar1zk