Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Part I (part II is on page 5, part III is on page 20, part IV is on page 24)

Dizzy Reed came to Cornell this past weekend to pledge Zeta Psi Fraternity as an honorary brother.  In the chaos, we managed to conduct a 30-minute Q&A. Here are the responses to questions prepared by members on GNR forums.

What is the status on Chinese Democracy?

"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."

(but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway)

What is up with Slash giving the release date on CD as March 2006?

"Slash did? Well... he didn't get that information from me. But umm... hey that's exciting."

What are your views/opinions on Velvet Revolver?

"I think that their t-shirts are cool."

What are your thoughts on the Da Vinci Code soundtrack rumor that there will be a G'n'R track on it?

"I don't know anything about it."

Is there a finalized tracklist? I heard that there will be 32 songs of which 26 are complete...?

"Well... I actually thought that there are more... but if Axl says there are 32 then I guess. But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material. There's a lot. There's at least three dozen. There's a shitload of stuff. We've actually been doing stuff... we haven't been sittin' around. There really is a lot of stuff."

What would you say is the general sound of the album?

"Sound. You know... the thing about it is that there are so many different areas and the other thing is that through time guys have come and gone that as different members of the band- everyone brought 2 or 3 songs such that there are multiple musical genres and situtations. Umm.. it's kind of a smorgasbord. Everyone works on it and when Axl sings on it- it's magical. So... there's gonna be a little something for everybody on it. It mixes rock with all that modern... rock elements... to do this."

Do you think the record will appeal to fans? The sound that is.

"You can't please everybody. The quality of the songs goes a long ways. If you can play the song on the piano or just on a lone guitar and it still sounds great- then the song stands out on its own. All the songs are like that so I think the songs will carry the record. You know what? There are probably already a million people who have their minds made up that there gonna hate the album. You know- fuck those people. They probably will buy it... who knows? And I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised too. Or you know... maybe noone will buy it- you know? You can't predict the future. It's the tunnel theory of ever-changing things- you never know."

What do you think is the reason for the delay in the album release?

"You know... there is no primary reason... its really a variety of reasons. Umm.. there's just absolutely no one thing. I'm certainly not gonna go say that its all because Axl's a perfectionist or you know... things are just always coming and going... and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Axl and the rest of us will put the best thing out."

Obviously, Geffen is getting a little impatient... they did release the Greatest Hits album in order to entice you guys to release the album...

"Well... at this point I don't even know... I don't really deal on the business end of things. They'll just have to wait like everybody else."

How long have you actually known Axl Rose?

"Umm... I'm trying to remember... I'd say 20 years... we met in Hollywood when I first moved there and... he just liked the way I played the piano. At the time, in the 80s, most of the keyboard players that were playing at the time were kind of classically-trained and you know... they were good but they would not have fitted in with Guns N' Roses songs. And I think he realized that I would be able to play and add something that would raise the songs."

Apparently... Axl dedicated 'Nightrain' to 'Dizzy and his band' way back in 1986.. was that you?

"Yea... I think they just signed a deal with Live like a suicide and were touring and wanted to add a keyboard player too. And my band- we were doing a little tour then around the southwest and I broke my hand in a car accident... so around that time... because nightrain was my favorite G'n'R song at the time... Axl dedicated the song to me at that concert."




I'll post the rest later...

Like I said at the 'other' forum, you asked some really great questions. The questions are the best part of the interview. His answers leave way too much to the imagination. Someone needs to ask Dizzy point blank if he is still a member of Guns N Roses, because with these new answers that give new meaning to the word vague, I'm starting to wonder if Axl didn't fire him, and he just hasn't found out yet.

Bah........I want to get excited about all this.

I just can't............

 :rofl:

The closest person to Axl is Dizzy!

BTW really great question! Dizzy seems to be disappointed...

Cool questions.

Can't believe Dizzy doesn't know whats going on though. Insane.

Not really - like Axl said, the majority of the recording was done back in 2001-2002.

The rest of the band only works for Guns N' Roses when called upon, which obviously doesn't happen often.

You are now obligated to tell us what that thing is.

I thought that was strange also, how he would leave us hanging with that "there's one thing coming up" line. Its like he needs time to think about what this one thing is. I'm gonna freak if this is another fake, because it paints a bleak picture of the current status of the band, and its the last thing we needed to hear since the optimism of the recent Axl comments.

all the band members really seem to so clueless as to what is going with the band  :-\

Thanks for the interview and for posting it here.

You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking  :P

Its been pretty clear for a long time that this is no 'conventional' band arrangment.

These guys have been leased basically, for a period of time to record music of which Axl sifts through the parts he likes and then builds song fragments from.

So when Axl says it's ready to go, or ready to release, these guys will be just as surprised as the rest of us.

The worrying thing is, they're going to need to practise as a band because in all fairness, the musical arrangments are probably as foreign to them as they are to us.

Nothing new here - I agree though, nice to see some more specific questions concerning things people are actually interested in

I think we should lock both Madagascar88 and Madison from MyGNR in a room.

I can imagine the conversation:

Madagascar88: So, what did Axl tell you?
Madison: In 2002 he told me the title of the first Chinese Democracy single
Madagascar88: Cool, Dizzy told me something big that's going to happen with the band in 2006
Madison: Awesome, what's that?
Madagascar88: You go first
Madison: No really, I insist
Madagascar88: Only after you tell me the name of the single
Madison: .....
Madagascar88: .....

!!!!!!!!HEADS EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with what you're saying, but if this logic is true, then CD isn't close to being ready. If there was an imminent release coming this year, you would think the other band members would have heard something. There should at least have been photo shoots, a few rehearsals, etc., just to get the ball rolling. I know that the band members aren't going to tell us even if something's about to happen, but Dizzy really seems like he's totally clueless as to what's going on. If he were hiding something that he didn't want us to know about, he would have answered those questions differently. I'm still surprised no one ever asks these guys what their favorite song on the album is. There answer might be as revealing as any other info we might get. Also, as I mentioned in my post earlier, someone needs to ask him if he can confirm he's still a member of the band. He gives off a strange vibe in this interview.

do you think there will be band photo's/videos?

The whole 'mysterious' image that Axl has shrouded this project in could well lend itself to a more 'faceless' type approach ala Tool

just a thought...

what specifically makes you think he might not be in the band James?
I'm interested to know what  gives you the strange vibe here as I didn't pick up on it?

Jimmy, this doesn't sound like a guy who is even remotely close to being on the inside. These answers are disturbing. Mysteron probably has closer ties to the band than Dizzy. His statements regarding the amount of songs is pathetic. Its like he doesn't know what to believe himself. The reason I wonder if he's still in GNR is his zero knowledge on whats going on. If he is indeed still in the band, then Axl needs to put him on a short and tight leash, because his "interviews" paint a pretty bleak picture of the situation.

True, but hasnt that always been the case?
This is the same rhetoric we've been hearing for years - I dont think all of a sudden Axls going to involve them in the decision making

theyre on call, when he says its ready, they'll jump to attention

Mysteron?

Johan?  :hihi:

Something else odd about it was how he didn't use the word "soon" every few seconds, and he got excited when Slash said march. :hihi:

haha true, that is ludicrous to think that Slash would know more than him

Perhaps Dizzy posts here to discuss rumours and see whats going down  :hihi:

The Jameslofton29 is Dizzy Reed rumour starts now! :hihi:

Seriously though, what you said earlier about there possibly being no reason for these guys to be involved is a definite possiblity. If Axl has no interest in really promoting the record and just letting the album speak for itself, then there is no reason for these guys to be involved anymore since there services are basically no longer required. Maybe there wont be any band photos in CD, or posters, tshirts, etc. If the majority of the music is actually done, and Axl has no desire to perform on tv shows promoting it or has no desire to tour, then in essence it is no longer a band and it would probably dissolve right after a CD release.

interesting scenario, after CD, reunion perhaps?

no , that I dont see, just doesnt add up, wouldnt fit with in at  least my mind, or mayb a lot of others. If your gonna go through all the length , time, blood sweat and tear, to create this new vision, I seriousy doubt that after its release he will be ok...were finished now move on heres your pay.beta get slash on the line.......lol, doesnt seem realistic nor what more like will be the case.

Im confident Axl and tommy and robin, and richard, robin , brain, and dizzy, will, embark o this new phase, in the end it wil come down to how successfull will it be, if all goes well, they it will continue, , it will come down to how CD does.

AS Dizzy said, something for everyone, bottom line will determine.

jameslofton you are right that the answers obviusly indicate he knows nothing.. he even admits.. no more than us. We (not me personally, board members here) critisize the band members when they try and get our hopes up so we can't complain that Dizzy is being honest.

I think we got past the 'disturbing' (as you put it) stage a long time ago. Everyone knows by now that Axl is working on their project now.. the guys have done their parts.. now it's up to Axl. He will call them all when he is ready and until then the band do their own thing.. that's the way it works. Works for Axl... the band have no complaints.. they'll wait and do their own thing until they are given the call. That's the way this band works, so we just have to accept it and wait  ;)

I doubt it. He'll probably hibernate again, or maybe release already finished material. Or maybe do some writing, with the strange life he's had I've always wondered why he never wrote a book or two.

CD is a team effort, for sure, Dizzy's interview proves that. I'm afraid nobody's involved in this project, not even Axl. I think 'You will hear music this year' meant that Axl will leak the first 17 seconds of IRS. Ridiculous.

Finally, someone else sees the absurdity of what came flying out of Dizzy's mouth. I cant wait to see the rest of this so called "interview". I knew the high from Axl's recent comments wouldnt last long. Dizzy had to bring the CD saga back down to reality.

Man you are so quick to jump on the bandwagon. How excited did you get about Axl's pics and interview?

I don't mean this as a personal attack or anything dude. I enjoy your contributions to the board. It's just you and a few others constantly put downers on the whole thing, get excited and suddenly all positive when Axl appears.. then bingo.. look at these comments.

What bandwagon? I was the first person to mention the absurdity of the interview. I dont jump on bandwagons, I just ride the wave. Its not my fault when Dizzy occasionally makes this whole thing seem like a joke, so aim your criticism towards him, not me. Yeah, I was positive about the recent Axl comments, because it was something to be positive about.  But you're mistaken if you think I was one of the prom night virgins salivating over those pics. Me and a few others dont "constantly put downers" on the whole thing. The current members take care of that job themselves.

Axl announced song titles for CD in 1999, we're now in 2006 and someone who has been in the band for over 15 years says "I know what you guys know. " what confidence.


but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway

Rock in Rio ?

i havnt read all the posts in this topic but i personally think all the band members know a lot more than their letting on to.every time one of them is interviewed they all give the same answers so its obvious thats what their told to say.
 plus when chin dem drops im sure we,ll see the band together touring and stuff (tshirts,band photos,interviews on telly and in mags jus like the old days).the only reason we feel there wont actually be a band after cd is released is coz we havnt seen much of them together over the years and coz they all got their own projects.but when cd drops,i bet they will all be together planning the next couple o years together.

"and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. "

Ladies and gentleman, there is the only important line in the interview. You guys have to realize that Axl doesn't need this project to survive and live well. I actually think it has become a leisure type thing for him. He will finish it when HE is ready-nobodies pushing hard enough and Axl certainly doesn't need the money. There is no "hunger" on Axl's part like there is with the rest of the members-they want to make it and be successful on a monetary level. Unfortunately, Axl calls ALL the shots. Period. He will tell them when the release date is when HE decides on it. It is HIS album. As Tommy said in his most recent interview, the album will come out according to "someone else's plan"-in other words Axl. HIS plan-HIS songs he decides to put vocals over-HIS money is going in to the project-HIS reputation is at stake. That is just the simple fact of the matter. If you want to believe that this is a tight knit group of bandmembers who sit around every weekend shooting pool and drinking beer-go right ahead-you are wrong. They are hired musicians-period. When they release a record and hit the road, things will change and they will get a little bit of that "band" concept back. But, for now, they were hired musicians who got paid for the work they did. :P

What Axl actually said was that there are 32 songs they are working on. That doesn't necessarily mean these are all they got and there may well be songs they are not working on at the moment. And from this dizzy's comment, there are, I assume.

I agree with you Mr W,  I have to say i dont get excited until I see Axl has said something - as all the band members are all reading from a different page.  not that they cant speak for themselves - but I dont think axl would want any one of them, even the hallowed Dizzy, to name-drop exact numbers of songs, titles, plausible tour dates - release dates etc.  This is Axl's baby and no-one else's.  And as noted above, exactly - there havent been m/any official press shots of the new band (esp since Bucketbreath's departure) so it's understandable that people find it hard to relate to gn'r as a band or use band member's statements as gospel.  They arent lying - just picking their words carefully.   Am not sure that dizzy et all will be giving us anything accurate and detailed unless Axl has "spoken" again!   :smoking:

exactly babydolls,this is axls baby and noone is gonna deliver it other than daddy axl  :beer:

the thing that gets me is. everyone says

"oh it's so great everyone has input and it is a band cuz everyone helped"

well tell me this, how come nobody knows shit about shit and all the band members are scattered about the world doing their own thing while Axl finishes the record?

IMHO It's Axl's project, will always will be Axl's project and Tommy, Robin, Brain, Richard, Dizzy, Pittman & whoever else in the "Band" are frogs and they Jump when Axl says so. For fuck sakes richard left his newborn to record more stuff for Axl. what more proof do you need?

They should name the band Axl and the Jobbers. I said a while ago that the reason for the "delay" is that Axl has no one to push him to release anything and low and behold Dizzy comes out with the most significant thing he's ever said about the current incarnation of GnR


what he's really thinking IMO, "Umm....fuck i don't really wanna answer this, so I'm certainly not gonna go say that its all because Axl's a perfectionist or you know cuz he is things are just always coming and going like band members and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Cuz everyone is too scared to say shit after Izzy left, Matt was fired, Slash Quit and Duff left. Axl and the rest of us haha only axl really (cuz i already said i don't know shit about the album) will put the best thing out

your right,it is axls project but he couldnt do it alone,there is still a band and when the time comes and they are on the road or telly etc,you will realise that for this thing to work,it would need axls final word.and everyone except axl has been told,"keep your mouth shut until the time is right".

My freind, that is a definition of a yes-man. A pawn. "Your say is important when i say it is"

No. A rock band is a group of people who record an album and see it through till the end. People that will say "what the fuck are you on about? don't do that it sounds like shit" or "cool groove lets keep it but tweak the bass drum" or "how does this sound?" that is a band.

Not "hmmm, you know just as much as me about the new record" or "I'm not sure what the songs sound like now but they were cool the last time i heard them"

those are statements of a person who has a job and the boss hasn't let them know the whole story. A band doesn't have a boss it is a collaboration

great interview, can't wait for the rest! thanks alot!

Hey C, did you go and see Dizzy?

this is really starting to piss me off, first of all

does anyone remember a recent interview with dizzy, maybe last year, when he was like "YEAHH!! ITS COMING SOONER THAN U THINK!!! ITS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER!!! HOLD ON!!! "  or some shit, and now hes like, "oh..well if slash says its coming out in march, i'm excited.." i mean  WTF????

I think Dizzy was using a little something subtle called sarcasm. ::)

pretty obvious. :hihi: You know what richard said.


That's true neemo. A Band works its best when it's democratic.

I believe they are when it comes to the music. and it is the leader's responsibility to bring them together and to deal with other things.
Still we don't know a shit about it. As they don't talk everything.

To be honest the idea of "Axl's solo project" sorta put me off.  :-\

That's the thing that gets me most frustrated is that we get down to a point like this where we have specific questions about GnR and Chinese Democracy and the way the questions always get answered it's like they beat around the bush about it. contradicting themselves and giving us elaborate "maybe's" and "soon's" but never really answering the questions.

To tell you the truth I'd rather them all just deny any C.D. questions than spewing bullshit.

The way Madagascar88 typed the interview so far gives me the impression that Dizzy's either;
a/) thinking very carefully about the answers he gives so he doesn't reveal too much
or
b/) trying to come up with a lie that makes it look like he knows what he's talking about when he really doesn't

I'd like to think it was A. But in any case, this IS Axl's project, for all the reasons madagas said, and for that reason i'll take his word over the rest of the players. He says we hear new music this year, so I'll take it until i hear different from him OR it's december and nothing's happened (always a possibility). Though I wish our interviewer would post his little nugget which indicates something more positive to him...

Dizzy's answers are almost as vague as Axl's.....how come whenever someone associated with this band gives an interview they don't say anything remotely informative....do they pass around a book "How to Give interviews Without Saying Anything?"

i was being a little sarcastic too haha. what i meant was he doesnt seem as enthusiastic about it as before.

It's not Dizzy's fault if he doesn't know as much as he would. Axl's got the key, not Dizzy. Stop bashing him.

You guys pay the most attention to one line and one line only. It was actually a good interview although it didn't sound very optimistic.

But, really if you guys want to listen to anybody about this project, it should be axl cause he's the one in the driver's seat.

That's what I've been saying for years.

Bands can work like they want. sometimes there is a boss and the others are only puppets to play the songs, sometimes they have their input but have no say, sometimes it's a collaborate effor. But the biggest problem with this band that it's not working at all.

And how would you know that it's not working? If it wasn't working, then the band would have fallen apart a long time ago. Trust me.

That is exactly my point nesquick. How can it be a "band" if only one guy out of seven knows what is happening in that "band"?

If i was in a band I'd like to think i had as much say as the next guy. That's exactly why Slash left, everything he brought to the table Axl denied. I recall reading that everything on "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere" was written by Slash as ideas for the next GnR record, and Axl had no desire to entertain his ideas. I know it's not the best album of all time but it's got a few decent tracks on it, imagine if it was Axl writing and singing vocals on that record. It woulda been killer IMO. I'm not saying it's 100% truth but i know i read that somewhere.


My point again, everybody should be helping to steer the ship.

I picked that quote cuz I'm interested in CD and what the fuck is holding up this Album. If you read my post i refered to several of Dizzy's answers. I only quoted one.

I don't care about his thoughts on Slash or his thoughts on VR or How long he has known Axl.

I agree though, good interview. : ok: Just not good answers IMHO. :(


But to me that is not a band. That is a solo effort with hired musicians. Obviously they are gonna help with writing the music. I'm sure Robin, Richard, Buckethead, Dave Navarro, Brian May & Zakk Wylde all know how to get what is requred out of a guitar than Axl does and Axl knows it. That's why he hires guys who he thinks can produce the best music. Look at Ozzy, ultimately it's his thing. If Zakk plays something he doesn't like I'm sure it is not used, it's not like Ozzy writes the guitar parts and Zakk plays them. Zakk wirtes the music. But who's song is No More Tears? Ozzy's or Zakk's?

Exactly. And axl's are as vague as Dizzys. They are deliberate, from what I can gather. they are both


Then, why doesn't he call it Axl and the Jobbers, like neemo suggested?

And what about these words?

''It's not an Axl Rose album, even if it's what I wanted it to be. Everybody is putting everything they've got into singing and building. Maybe I'm helping steer it to what it should be built like.'' -Axl Speaks
Rolling Stone, January 2000 http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=30

I'm not trying to suggest that the rest of the band has no musical input in the album-when i say it's his project, i mean that he is the one who assumes all the risk and reputation regarding it-therefore, he is control of how the final product is made. I think the quote you gave from the RS article actually proves that-he's the one steering it to what it should be like. Well, who's the guy utlimately determining what it should be like like? Axl! He's the Captain of the ship, so to speak,which means he ultimately will chart the course. All the shipmates can do is take shore leave until he says it's time to come back.


 How vague were Axl's answers, really? I guess there's some ambiguity as to what 'people will hear new music this year' and 'we'll see what happens' in terms of touring mean-but other than that, he gave a pretty darn specific update as to what was going on with the project (32 tracks selected working on 26, first release will have 13 tracks-he even threw out titles). Did he say, yeah it'll be out in October or something to that effect? No. But what he said was more than anything we've heard in a long while.

Which is the same thing he did in December 99 when he was interviewed by RS and actually let the writer listen to 12 songs! Again, we are in the exact same position as 1999-no tour dates and no album release date. Still recording. Do you not find that comical??? :hihi:

I guess Black Label Society is no more of a band then Guns is?
Zakk writes all the material,and plays most of the guitar work..The other guys are there for him on tour.
At least Axl lets these guys write stuff.

Oh, I find it absolutely absurd-i'm not saying it isn't ridiculous. And i've said over and over that common sense dictates the album probably won't see the light of day. But that I always retain a small belief that it could-and when I hear something from Axl, I will take it slightly more seriosuly than the other band members' statements.

"slightly" being the key word...only slightly.

ppbebe that quote could be taken in two ways. since i'm arguing my point "I'll help steer" it my way :hihi:

To paraphrase.

"Axl has a very specific idea what he wants for his album, or at least he did when it all started, it was the variables that added to it. but he still is keeping the core of what his idea was originally."

See, what I'm getting out of all this is that Axl is in charge of this beast, and he decides what stay or goes. Yes he is using ideas of the others but, his ideas come first and foremost. I have a sneaky suspicion that if Axl doesn;t like something that one of them came up with he didn't or won't use it, however if he likes something that others don't (even if it is all 6 of them), tough shit it stays. that is not collaboration IMO

Right now, to me, it looks more like Dizzy, Tommy, Robin, Richard, Brain and Chris are Axl's backup band. Yes they may be the current GnR but only cuz Axl says so.


You got it man!! : ok: Congrats, Same with Megadeth(Dave mustaine is notorious for burning through band members but that's the way it is, his way or the highway, he's got the talent to back it up too)

It doesn't mean it's a bad thing mind you, I love BLS, Megadeth, Ozzy, Silverchair, Nirvana, Foo Fighters the list can go on and on really.

It's just that sometimes people make it seem like dizzy sits next to axl when he writes music. I don;'t beleive that is the case, yeah these guys helped Axl write music for songs but I don;t think that they are a total collaborative effort

exactly : ok:

holy shit this is the most negative post i've seen on here in a while.  this thread isn't to debate what type of band gnr is.  thats been done 10,000 times.  i think its pretty fuckin cool that dizzy went to a college, bullshitted with guys all weekend and partied, and one guy is taking the time to write up what happened.  i wish that happened when i was in college.  i think the key here is that axl is the main guy, the one who will greenlight any info going out, etc, but i also think that this band is much tighter than we think.  sure, they are doing other stuff.  thats because the album isn't out yet.  axl is tweaking and working.  it is his baby.  but i think this band clicks pretty damn well, and at least according to tommy, much better since buckethead left.  they are all rockers at heart.  but as axl said long ago, don't live waiting for the album, live life.  its because he isn't in a hurry to get it out.  yeah it sucks for us, but hes not in any hurry. 

 i can't wait to hear the rest of the interview.  thanks poster for the insight into an awesome weekend.  question: did you guys initiate/haze him at all?  that'd be pretty intense to haze a member of gnr!

Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard.

See. Here we're discussing whether this is a band or a one-man band at Axl's leisure.

Are we sure that there will be13 tracks on CD? Does the article say so?
Actually he said they are working on 32 songs and not on 26 songs.
I don't think Dizzy's much vaguer than Axl's.

All you guys are doing is shouting at each other. We're not even really discussing anything anymore.

My mistake on the inverting the track quote. But when the article says Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. I take that to mean CD, which is what the writer is primarily talking about at the beginning of the article. He's paraphrasing. I guess you could take 'final album' to mean the second release, but that doesn't seem to fit the context of the article. Unfortunately, we have no transcript of the whole conversation. But Dizzy seems not to know anything regarding where the project stands where Axl at least said something about it's progession (and i use that word with caution).

We're discussing the comments made by various band members at various stages in the saga that is Chinese Democracy and we're also discussing whether or not this album is a band collaboration or Axl's solo project.

I don't mean any of my posts to be "shouting". sorry if they come across like that :-\

Dizzy Reed likes the T-Shirts of VR?? ...  Every day I like dizzy reed less...

typing up another piece of the interview now... give me a moment

I THOUGHT THIS WAS SHOUTING!!!!


 ;D

Just because he likes their t-shirts? Is he supposed to hate them?

No man, but it seems to be a mockery since he talks about their T-Shirts instead of them as musicians.

Ok, i understand your point now :peace:

Please don't Thorazine, I'm sensitive :crying:


here we go with the whole sarcasm thing again :rofl:

@ NickNasty06
Not only that. they may well have more which they're not working on anymore.
Remember the interview "unexpectedly" occured at a bash. not the quietest place, I suppose.


You must be joking.  ??? I don't know about the first 2 pages but we're all very civil. No name calling.

Anyways. billsguy is right. How come some of you are so negative about this interview?

I read that the other new gnr members' ideas werent taking in count... I wonder how much of that is true ??

Quote by the Dirt
"Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard."

which pretty much confirms that richard is a rythm guitar player and not a solo or lead player and therfor not the one to take buckets parts...

Wouldnt that mean he hasnt re-recorded anybodys solo's?  ???

What it also confirms is that his ideas are not on anything in any capacity, be it lead, rhythm, bongos, or farts.

Yep saul. I'd read it as erose does.  :D
I think he was referring to the first album.

What did he actually say?

No, he very well could have, or could have tried.

What first album? This was from a very recent email.

Go look in the "emails from ricchard" thread. It's in there somewhere, but my paraphrase is almost spot on.

Part II (Part III is on page 20, part IV is on page 24)

What are your current relations to the other Gunners?

"Uhh... I've only seen Matt recently [because Matt Sorum is apparently the only Gunner who goes out] and Steven when he played with the Starfuckers one night at the Cat Club where I play on Thursdays.? Other than that, I haven't talked to anyone else... well, I talked to Izzy a couple years ago- he was at a recording studio playing some of his new stuff."

Building on this, from talking to him at lunch & whatnot... Dizzy had a LOT to say about the former Gunners.? Keep in mind these are paraphrases...

On Izzy:? 'You have to understand that Izzy is one of those people that does whatever he wants.? You know... when I joined the band, he sometimes... just didn't show up.? Examples include during the recording of the music video for "Don't Cry" and the music video for "You Could Be Mine" at the end in the scene where the band exits the studio and sees Arnold.? [we watch the 'You Could be Mine' music video and Dizzy comments... "hey... where's Izzy? o wait... yea, he wasn't there"] Obviously part of the reason that Izzy left might have been the fact that he and Axl didn't get along towards the end... but thats just part of it.? I mean... about the Ju Ju Hounds... I have a friend who was the guitarist for that band back in the early 90s and he was always complaining about how Izzy would just not show up for shows.? [I comment that Izzy is turning into Axl... which puts a frown on Dizzy's face]? And... just as a musician... Izzy used to be a great songwriter- his contribution to Guns N' Roses first album are phenomenal.? But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire... I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio... and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" - it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out.? [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean... this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he's writing about getting his tooth pulled... I mean come on... can you imagine Axl singing that live?' [I next ask him about rumors that Izzy had been paying visits to Axl's Malibu mansion over the last few years and had been rejected at the door several times] Yea... he's always doing that- he'd done it a few times actually. [I ask him if its because Izzy wants back in G'n'R] No... I mean I'm not sure... the guy sort of just does his own thing... he did join us back during the Use Your Illusion tour briefly... Gilby had hurt himself and so he stepped in for a couple of dates... I mean, the guy's really weird is the best way to describe it... in '91, we were playing some shows in England... like one day we were having the times of our lives playing a sold-out Wembley and the next day... I talk to Izzy and he's like: "I'm leaving the band" and I'm like "what!?" and he's like: "Dizzy... I'm leaving the band." I personally don't understand him to any extent.

On Steven: 'Wow... what to say about this guy... I just recently played with Steven with the Starfuckers... actually it was both him and C.C. Deville of Poison.? It was like this really hyped up concert because here's two big names playing with us... and let me tell you... at the concert... you could hear a pin drop.? C.C. DeVille was terrible.. the guy can't play for the life of him... and Steven... he can't even hold a beat anymore let alone play drums.? We'd look bad and the guy was literally smoking crack while on stage during the songs.? It was possibly the worst concert of my life... I mean... there's only so many times that a guy can die from an overdose and come back alive...

On Jani Lane of Warrant: 'Let me tell you about Jani Lane... I just recently performed with this guy.. he was at the Raven's Heart benefit show [I think this is the concert he mentioned] And he literally had to be carried on stage because he was so drugged up... he couldn't sing.. like at all... it was like a comic act.. because he was just on stage making a fool of himself.. everyone at the show was laughing and you know... I felt bad for him [when asked about the VH1 show that shows that he's sober] TV's TV man.. the guy's no different now.. that was just for a bit of publicity.? I mean he recently calls me on my cell completely fucked up and is like: "MEET ME AT _____ tomorrow!" and I'm like: "wait.. who is this?" and he's like: "what?" and I'm like: "who is this?" and he's like: "ITS JANI" and hangs up... and he actually expects me to talk to his management about playing with him.

On Matt Nelson of Nelson: 'Saw him recently at a concert. He came up to me and was like "hi... I'm Matt Nelson. Was wondering if you knew any keyboardists who might be up for playing with me and my band at ____ [I forget the show name]. And obviously the guy's pointing at asking me if I wanted to play so I talk to him for a while and its literally minutes before I realize that this guys Matt Nelson of the band Nelson 'cause I mean he has like short hair now... and then he starts talking about Axl... he says: "Dizzy... you know- me and Axl are very alike" and Im like... "Really? how...?" and he's like: "I dated Erin Everly right when he was going through their divorce" and I'm like "holy shit... 'cause I didn't even know that. and so of course I couldn't do that to Axl... to play with this guy"'

Who was better for Axl? Erin Everly or Stephanie Seymour?

"You know... this is a degree of privacy and that's his own personal business."

I hear that Axl's still having trouble getting over his breakup with Stephanie Seymour because he perceived her to be perfect for him... is that true?

"I haven't heard him talk about her in quite a while... but it could be true... it's his personal relationship"






about a half done!

Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

let me be the first to say: I really doubt it... 8)

Very good so far madagascar88  : ok:

Madagascar88  comes through!

Thanks for proving us wrong.

 :beer:

This is very interesting reading, almost unbelievable.
out of interest how did you come to hear axl was still having troubles with his break up with SS ?

Yea but I'm sorta disappointed as I thought they were at least serious about their band. :-\

How legit is this anyway?  ???

Thanks for posting!
Great stuff so far.

No they have better things to do, you know like tour, speak to their fans and actually release albums. But since your waiting for Axl's GnR tribute bands album you wouldn't know what that is like.


We don't know jackshit about what happens behind closed doors, I bet just a few weeks ago if someone suggested that Axl was on speaking terms (and probably more) with Izzy that you would of thought it was a crazy idea.



Guess Izzy has spoke to Axl more then Dizzy since Axl said he and Izzy just spoke a few weeks ago ?::)

Wow!!

Fireworks!

Slash and Duff sniffing around about a reunion.....Adler and CC are washed up.....allusions to something that will happen that legitimizes the 2006 is the year talk.

Pure Dynamite.

Is it really true?

Not Guns related-but isn't it funny in sad way to see what's happened to some of those 80s LA hairbands? Adler smoking crack ON STAGE?? Jani Lane having to be propped up? I swear, given who Dizzy knows, he could write one wild tell-all book about the fall of the Sunset Strip bands.

Also, I'm not doubting our interviwer or Dizzy, ::) but it is very hard for me to believe the old guys are really clamoring for a reunion given the success of VR-what's the incentive? Yes, money, but they're all well enough off and VR has been profitable. The only thing I can figure is that there are problems with Weiland in some capacity, but if there are, they've been surpisingly tight-lipped about it, gotta call is false.

Well Slash and Duff sniffing at a rose doesn't mean a shit when Axl has better things to do. And none of Dizzy's comments says otherwise.

thanks so much for typing up this interview.. lots of interesting stuff here! i wouldn't expect there to be too many revelations about the new album from other members because i believe Axl is going to give some kind of big interview/press release whenever he is finally ready to roll and he doesnt want all the info coming out before then.

Dizzy Reed? guys Im upset for some of the statements the Star "Fucker" said, but then again I think its only Dizzy Reed ...  so maybe I shouldnt give a "?$43 ....

Is it me or does the second part of the interview have parts that seem almost unbelievable. No one in GNR has been this forthcoming to anyone so far and the reunion thing seems far fetched considering VR's success. ?And Steven smoking crack onstage? Wouldnt we have heard about that one sooner?

Im not saying this interview is a fabrication. Just playing devils advocate here.

Or maybe  Dizzy doesnt know what to say...

sure VR has had some sucsess, but noone in the world can say that vr has even reached gn'r to the ankle. jeez, didn't gn'rs GH sell more than contraband?

for me VR was really great cuz i got to hear slash play again, and it was really cool to see duff as i think he has become a real cool guy compared to his sloppy slurbing married to a pornstar wearing bowties on covers etc. now he's actually really fit and grounded and his bass playing just gets better and better imo it's all about the music for duff now which is great. fuck wiland, kushner and sorum, they're just fillers...

ofcourse slash n' duff and steven and matt want a gn'r reunion, they would be stupid not to and i know that slash n' the rest are as interested as us, if not more, to hear Chinese Democracy and you know what, they think thats the coolest album title of all time too.

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...

Keeping tight lipped for several years, then opening up to some guy you never met with confidential info doesnt seem likely to happen.

unless there's a real reason to start talking to fans about GN'R!

it's a paraphrase... he may or may not have used the word 'confidential'

Yay, Chief.   : ok: That's how I see this interview and Axls one at Korn party.


And what Axl says correspond to what Tommy says.
Someone have to take the charge. Like  Jimmy Page did to Led zeppelin, for instance. So why not the captain of GNR?

So Madagascar, I'm guessing you will not tell us what the one thing is that's supposedly coming up which leads you to believe preparations for release are underway.

Could you at least tell us when this event should occur??  ???

within a week I'd say

and just how major will it be??

well... I'm not talking about a public announcement here... I just said that it could lead towards the forwarding of the release of Chinese Democracy

ok, can you give us any hints??

If not, I guess a week's not too long to wait! Hell, the past 12 years have just flown! I hope your right, fella! :)

A very interesting read.  But I'm gonna have to take this with a grain of salt.   I just can't imagine Dizzy flapping his lips like that.  But keep going Madagascar88, I'm enjoying it. : ok:

Some sort of annoncement would be great as far as an album release date. fuck yeah baby, i hope I'm not getting EXCITING FOR NOTHING!!!!! whooooooaaaahhhhhhhaaahhhh!

just fukin tell us. whats the big deal...why wait a week? stop playing th egnr game its annoying. either say and report the news or go away stop seeking attention

Thanks Madagascar. Dont let the haters bring you down.. just keep typing what your typing.. and give us a damn clue about whats happening in a week!

bah!
what a load of nonsense
the money whores are out there delivering to their fans - Mr Reed is the whore if anyone, allowing his musicality to be comprimised by his yes-man status

yes, it all sounds a bit loose to me(was he drunk?)

im starting to doubt the legitamacy of this- the Steven and Slash comments are a tad too out there for me to think this is believeable

Adler sounds fucked from the recent interviews and Dizzy's comments, he just can't keep away from the gear.

All this is great stuff, but I'm wondering why no-one seems to have bothered asking whether GN'R is going to get themselves a third guitarist to replace Buckethead, or if they're just going to press ahead with Fortus and Finck...

SG

Is it something we would necessarily hear about?

yeah right, as if dizzy doesn't do whatever the fuck he wants to do with his music wtf???? the guy's been out there on the scene alot and just because he believes in axl doesn't make him axl's yes man lol... get a grip, i'm not saying anyone is a money whore here, but slash stated himself that he was practically broke and that money was a big reason for doing the VR gig, they even had the labels go through a bidding war to get the most cash out of it, plus they sell their music to mediocre films, and releases the album in three different colors and they rereleased it a couple of times aswell go figure...

sounds a little too far out there for me.
the comments about Slash and Duff can be from 5 years ago for all we know, but I seriously doubt it has happened since they started working with VR.

and the Steven comments are just bollocks. Ive heard several live stuff with AA and heard their studio tracks, and from what Ive heard I can tell that he's probably 3 times better technically these days than back in the GNR days.
sounds to me it's either fake, or Dizzy is trying his best to spread shit about his former comrades.
some of the Izzy comments seems unlikely too really.

no

Gn'R and Super Bowl XL......................   that's what you're talking about, right!?

dizzy ... a frat boy ..... LAAAAAMMMMME.


chaa !! chaaaa. yeah .... beer.... yeah .... gay sex ... yeah .... chaaaaa......


:)

At the end of the day, we have a 1 post wonder stringing people along about this supposed "event" as well as Dizzy all of a sudden flapping his gums at some college kids. ?This is turning into bullshit. ?Plain and simple.

Having met Dizzwald, I know he can put back alot and still remain quiet if he wants too-he ain't stupid, and some of this stuff is pretty incredible. and as for this 'wait another week' stuff, c'mon bro, put up or shut up!

Bingo, Dizzy doesn't blab about stuff plain and simple. Seems to me someone is putting words in Dizzy's mouth and trying to get attention.

Madagascar, sorry if you already said this and I missed it, but I was wondering..

How did you keep track of everything you and Dizzy talked about?  Tape recorder, taking notes, or an exceptional memory?  And was it with the understanding that you were doing an interview, or 2 guys hanging out drinking?

Also, this thing you are referring to that should happen in the week, were you told not to talk about it or just using your own discretion? 

By the way, Go Seahawks!  I'm so damn excited for that game.

I believe him.

So.. i saw a rumour about Axl beeing on a radiostation on Friday, over at chinesedemocracy forum... could it be that?

http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Axl_Rose_In_Studio_On_Friday/

you mean that nytunz?

yeah, i guess thats the one... I dont dare on beliving it, but you never fucking now thease days.. there is 10 gnr rumours everyday.. and something got to happen soon..

wow thats huge!

this isn't a rumor or is it?

I think it is. but i like to think rumours often are more stupid then just that simple note.. .. Lets see  :peace:

but this is that leykis guys official site so he should have taken it away if it was fake.... did this just come up?

lets start a new thread about this and force all the investigators to figure this one out... why hasn't splat reported this rumor???  :confused:

yeah, make a new thread.. this rumour it could fith with the rumour from Dizzy... Hmm

Don't want to bust anyones bubble, but no way is this interview true.

Read the last one again. Would Dizzy say that, or a fan with a big imagination?

that thing about axl is fake http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Just_Kidding/

Im curious about that also. How did the interview take place & what led up to it?

...it took place in his head...

Madagascar 88, I have to ask why you won't provide us with your juicy bit of information that will dispell all concerns about the album?? It's not as if you made a promise to Dizzy that you'd keep your mouth shut, I mean he would hardly provide a complete stranger with "confidential" information.? Let alone if he knew this person was going to post this information on Guns N' Roses forums.? Either provide us with something that can be confirmed in about? a week or go post your attention seeking bullshit elsewhere.? I have an interview from this weekend where Axl came to my college and he let me listen to Chinese Democracy, hell he gave me a copy of it as well as the follow up albums; but he trusted me not to make it available to everyone on the internet.? He did however say that we will be getting some information "soon".? ::)

No I didn't.  :-\  I got so busy that I actually forgot!  :-X  I missed a chance to hang out at the frat house too.  :P

Thanks for posting the interview!  : ok:

wow... thanks man... what an asshole.? guess what? if you think I'm trying to seek attention vs. just give you guys some info... I'm not gonna post the second half.? The interview part of my weekend was the worst part of my weekend with Dizzy 'cause guess what? I was drilling him with questions and in fact we cut it short 'cause he was obviously getting a little impatient.? I did that interview to answer your goddamn questions... my own questions I had answered during lunches and during the car rides.? So you know what?? I'm not gonna seek "attention" anymore... I'll shut up... saves me an hour tonight to do some work anyway

I am interested.  Come on with it! : ok:

Great interview....But how in earth would Dizzy expect someone he never met (no matter how cool they were), to keep silent on
ANYTHING?

Especially if your not a journalist.

real simple.  start by checking ip with cornell university ips/new york ips.  if they match, he at least has a chance of telling the truth.  also, dizzy did hang out and join a fraternity for a weekend with some guys he knew.  obviously someone hung out with him enough to have regular discussion.  i for one believe this guy is telling the truth.  i'm still waiting to know if you guys hazed him or just did a ritual initiation or what. 

I met Dizzy last year backstage after a concert here at my university. ?I interviewed him for 30 minutes for the local radio station I worked at. ?Next, I emailed Dizzy's drummer (Troy Patrick Farrell) about possibly having Hookers N Blow play at my fraternity. ?Troy passed the word onto Dizzy. ?Dizzy, remembering who I was, called me on my cell phone one evening (the most shocking call of my life) because I had included my cell phone number in the email to Troy. ?We then emailed each other back and forth about three times trying to set up Hookers N Blow to play at my house last Fall. ?Things fell through because they were asking for approximately 4-5k and our house didn't have those kinds of finances. ?But, me and Dizzy stayed in touch. ?I did a phone interview with him asking him several big questions including one about the song "catcher in the rye" which was posted I think last October. ?Then, as a joke, I emailed him asking him if he wanted to pledge my fraternity as an honorary brother. ?Somehow, totally unexpected, he said 'yes.' ?We worked out the flight details (our house paid obviously)- he had to fly in from LA and then depart to Ft. Walton, FL for another gig. ?So that's that.

hahaha... haze him... are you serious?

no... we skipped right to a ritual initiation... here's our frat website: http://www.psiofzetapsi.org

I'll let you guys know when pictures are posted from the weekend (they will be at the above address) but I for one am too frustrated at some of you to even make the effort in watching the recording of the interview and typing any more...

Man, don't let that get you down. You should know from hanging out on GNR forums the nature of the beast. Again, much thanks for what you've posted so far.

No reason to get defensive. You claimed you had an important piece of info, all I'm asking is that you provide that lil tidbit.  Hell if you post pictures of you guys hanging out that will suffice.  Point is, we get a hundred people every year claiming to have some piece of information and then "hold it over our heads"  in order to earn some respect/attention.  If this isn't the case with you (and you can easily prove it isn't) then I'll be the first to thank you for your excellent work.  Until then, don't blame me or anyone else for being skeptical - after all you only have like 10 post on this forum.

pictures will be up on our website in a day or two.  and i'm a mygnrforum.com frequenter... i've never used HTGTH.. not even to post my previous interview responses with Dizzy last semester (but people always copy and paste it over here)

and at about that one detail...

no... Dizzy did not say to me explicitly "DO NOT POST THIS ON THE INTERNET!" ...
but- I for one know that some stuff we talked about, including that piece, Dizzy would not want to be posted.

As his friend and now fraternity brother, I'm not gonna post something that might be detrimental in some ways.? I don't wanna get the Diz-man in any trouble (not saying it would but its a possibility)? I wish I could tell you how it's detrimental but well....

but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

I feel the same way. Even if the interview is true, "this is confidential stuff" basically means "off the record", and this guy tells the whole world. I just dont believe that ex members are begging for a reunion. They're having too much success on their own to be begging Axl for a reunion. I've also noticed he's holding back that juicy piece of info that makes him think its coming soon. How convenient.

Rock in Rio?

Well, I have to disagree with you for the simple fact that a reunion with Axl would make Duff and Slash a hell of a lot more money than VR is.

So when this event happens will we be well aware of it? like "okay so this is what madagascar88 was talking about" or is it something not obvious?

And thanks for the interview! : ok:

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

He's waiting because he doesn't want to be the first one to let the cat out of the bag.  It will speak for itself when it happens. 

I think the juicy info/what dizzy said was this .. "If my phone rings next week and I look on the call display and see it's axl calling then man , that means somethings up!! Then I wont have to hang out with washed up , drug addicted 80's rockers and be in a cover band while telling everyone I am a member of Guns N Roses , I'll actually BE in Guns N Roses again , so if you are gunna print this , Axl , it's me dizzy , please call next week."

Yup. That was it.

If not someone will copy and paste it from mygnrforum when it does get posted.

Even better , maybe dizzy will sell the info on ebay!!

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.? It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.

If you're keeping it to yourself, then why did you mention it in the first place?

Members have been called in for a meeting with axl and/or managment to discuss severance pay?

Hmmm , maybe they are meeting with Mysteron to discuss when and how to organize the street teams!!!

If you're referig to the superbowl (only big public even I know of in the near future) that won't be for 2 weeks, February 5th to be exact.  Not stating you claim it's the super bowl that you're hiding, just point out a possible error.

I'm thinking fortus wife may be going out for the weekend so fortus called in the gnr members to help him babysit .. maybe they'll discuss whats happenin then?!  ???

so many possibilities.  :peace:

Could it be Axl's birthday bash......

I totally forgot about Axl's birthday
let me guess... Dizzy invited the guy to go with him to axl?s party and then he will do himself the big question to the redhead

good luck on that one dude ;D

if you don?t get any answers, cut the stereo?s wire and run like hell... at least you will have a funny story to tell your kids  :hihi:

this is getting ridiculous. I mentioned it because I thought I'd give you guys reason to believe Chinese Democracy is coming out very soon- hows that?  end of topic.

hmm.. I'm guessing march

Madagascar88 - I for one, and probably a million other people would LOVE to read the rest of the interview. hope you post it man, thanks!!!

what everyone has to realize is that everything I'm typing is a paraphrase... even the things I included as the official interview are paraphrased to some extent... I didn't type exactly what I saw from the video recording because well... that'd take a lot longer.  so... although I used the word 'confidential'- that may not be the word that Dizzy actually used... he certainly conveyed it to me that he should not have been discussing that topic.  But, that detail I didn't feel would incriminate Dizzy in any way and so therefore should be reported to the fans.

Im just gonna go ask him on his myspace..... ill just ask him "So whats the big event your attending in a week that makes you hope that CD is gonna be out soon".... Ill just tell him that i heard about it from the Cornell student..... maybe its not as big a secret as you think it is.... he may just come out and tell me.....

why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.  i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

You guys are being dicks.

At least wait till we have the whole interview before you flame him  : ok:

No but in all seriousness this guy is just trying to help us out. Cut him some slack

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self... ?coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...

if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already contacted me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.

your reputation and integrity?? your the jack ass who posted it on the internet for anyone in the world to see... then you drop some "hints" or "secrets" that your "in the know" on something and when anyone tries to verify your story you get upset???  lol... some reputation and integrity...

Jesus Christ.. you guys couldn't honestly just let him finish transcribing the interview before you flamed him? Damned if you do, damned if ya dont apparently Madagascar  :no:. Hope you post the rest.

Another convenient response. You're just stringing us along. In one of your previous posts you said 'end of topic'. Obviously, you had no intentions of ending it, so you continue to get your rocks off by getting everyone's hopes up. Go back to mygnr. Or here's some better advice: take a long walk off a short pier.

LOL....

I'm getting fed up with all this myself , I think I'm gunna call Axl's cellphone (thanks for his number whichever madden brother it was who came and cleaned my pool yesterday!) , I'm calling him and getting all this cleared up right away .. and fuck it , I'm gunna force a release date confirmation from him too.

No , wait , fuck it .. thats a long distance call. Damn it all to hell!!!

From what Maddie88 is saying, I would guess that Axl will some kind of televised public appearence. The mere fact that he is out and about in a way so uncommon for the guy would lead credence to Axl's prediction about 2006.

stop speculating and believing what this guy's saying and he just might go away. You guys knew this kind of shit would happen once Axl showed himself to the public again, and unfortunately we fell for it.

How well known is this Maddie guy? Is anyone preapred to vouch for him?

I vaguely remember him having some sort of contact with Dizzy in the past, but that doesn't mean this is kosher. Something doesn't add up here, its obvious. I cant believe I'm gonna do this, but all options have run out..

(turning on mysteron/Batman signal)  MYSTERON!!  WE NEED YOU!!!

WHAT A FUCK WIT!!!

I demand da presence of Aunt Ger!  ;)

Axl will probably show up at the Grammys or something, just to get out in public again!

Jonx

that would be a great move and enhance the buzz
when are the grammys? why not present an award

its amazing the press and buzz Axl/GNR can generate just by showing his face

I strongly believe CD will sell itself with little to no promotion and what we've seen recently further bolsters my claim

Blah blah blah blah fucking blah. Tommy says this. Merck says that. Fortus says this. Dizzy says that.
Blah blah blah blah blah. He says this axl says that beltrami says this mysteron says that some douchbag
says this some asshole says that, and thats all it's been for years and years and years.
Thats all it ever is with this band - he said this & he said that This shit never ever ends, I don't give a fuck what axl, tommy, fortus, dizzy, merck, beltrami, ross halfin, whoever the fuck else, I don't give a fuck what they say. Mark my words, 1 year from today, January 25, 2007, there will still be no album. But there will be no shortage of dopes & nitwits arguing amongst themselves about whatever the latest piece of vague, evasive, bullshit piece of info whoever spouted means. No disrespect intended to the non dopes & nitwits here : ok:

I feel your pain man  :hihi:

well put, it's nice to see rage and supposed 'negativity' or ' hating' being done in an original and entertaining way  : ok:

Early Feb i think, it would make sense to show himself again, maybe with his girl! I agree with you that CD will sell regardless, although its still going to get alot of negative reviews. I think hes left it too long!

The fact still remains that despite everything that has happened in the past week we still have no idea what is truely going on. All we can do is carry on speculating just like we have done for the past 13 years! Nothing has really changed, Axl came out and managed to tell us so much but at the same time tell us so little!

Heres to more waiting :beer:

Jonx

Like he said earlier, he posts at mygnrforum mainly, not here.? He has over 400 posts there and is a regular poster.? He has also been talking about this interview for quite some time,if you look on this board and mygnrforum you will see several posts about it.?

I know being a GNR fan means getting loads and loads of false information, but before we start slamming people just do 5 minutes of research to see if the person spreading it is legit.? Madagascar88 is very legit, as is this interview.? Now thanks to some people here being dicks to him he might not feel like posting the rest of the interview.? Here's some advice, If you don't believe what he's saying, Don't read it.? Don't post on this thread.? That way the rest of us can read the rest of this great interview.

The fact he posts at mygnr pretty much sums it up.

This looks really dodgy, especially the part about the former GN'R offering a reunion etc.

Oh man, I just can't believe what some people on here are just doing. What has this damn wait made of you? Why bash him all the time? Where is the point? Why can't you just wait until he typed up the whole thing and be thankful?

I mean, come on, if it tzurns out not to be true later on, you still can complain, but at the moment, he is just a nice guy sharing some info. And all you do is bitching....

I really understand the frustration some of you have and I'm frustrated as well from time to time, especially because of so many bs rumours we get all the time, but hey, can't you keep your frustration to yourself?

Madagascar88, people on here have become nuts over the last few years, don't take it too personal.

Damn, I can imagine this: CD comes out, posters from HTGTH go to a record store, hold it in their hands, look at the retail-guy and go: "Hey you dumbfuck, why you foolin' me? Making me think I could buy Chinese Democracy? Nobody can buy Chinese Democracy. I'm holding it in my hands, n' that's the proof - must be bullshit."

Poster goes home, bought what he thinks is a fake, puts it in CD-Player, listens, thinks: "Fuck, these fakes get better and better everyday. But I won't be fooled!"

I'm not saying this interview is real, but I am also not saying it is not real. I don't know. And because I don't know I don't bitch about it. I just sit back and enjoy. Can't you guys do the same? Is that so hard?

Enough ranting for today.....

/lastroots

amen, the example is hilarious.  ;D

I understand you guys, but dont kill the messenger ! I would love to read part 3, so why piss the dude off and make him not post it?

Why doesn't someone (not me...) swing by mygnrforum.com to get the 3rd part if your so bothered......

.....or did they flame him to?

....By newbie standards he's an improvement.......since he signed up here in November 2004 ::)

....And if he is making it up, IF, then well he's got problems, wasting his time typing this stuff out and posting in advance with the post i quoted......

.....if it is fake, then these guys are getting better, but i guess after all these years, practice makes perfect....well he's not that good, but still

anyway.....anybody swung by mygnr yet?

eh?

.... :P

Dont you get it? He never planned on posting part 3. Also, if he were serious, and had any integrity, the story would have started with this "inside info" that he had, instead of just dangling the carrot in front of us, and then refusing to give that carrot when a few people got skeptical, which is a reaction he knew this "interview" would get.

By the way Stoned, I did go to mygnr, and those people are falling for this hook, line, and sinker.

FRAT BOYS !!! ahahahahha !!!! chaaaa !!! ;)

Is he dangling them the part 3 carrott as well.....

....are they patiently waiting for something they'll never get?

Does a bear shit in the woods? :hihi:

Awesome! Now that's all cleared up i can crawl back to the wrestling thread.....

.....damn mygnr people....

.....enticing me out of my hole at the bottom of this board

*shakes fist*

.... :P

Madagascar88 is telling the truth. He's posted a good, reliable interview with Dizzy before (MYGNR)- this isn't bullshit.

Now, because some of you idiots want to act paranoid, we won't get to see the rest of the interview.

Well done, HTGTH.

Well done, indeed. If he wanted to be taken seriously, he should have posted it all in one segment, not have gotten defensive at the first sign of someone not licking his ass, and he shouldn't have dangled "inside info" in front of our faces. Oh well, what are you worried about? He can go post at mygnr and you guys can mindmeld with the "inside info" in part 3.

First off, Madagascar88 you have to realize that us GnR fans are the most skeptical bunch in the world. And it is kinda suspicious that Dizzy would go from a bunch of soons and maybe's to telling you that Duff and Slash and Steven are begging for a reunion, also that he would tell you to keep an eye out for some kind of top secret announcement. No GnR member has ever talked so candidly about CD thus far and those comments about Steven, Matt, Slash, Izzy are pretty bad, to tell to just some stranger IMO. But hey he may have well said them all, who can say what one will spew from his mouth while under the influence huh? :hihi:

Secondly, Are you typing the interview from memory? Tape recorder? Did you take notes at it?

Thirdly, can you please post the rest, I am another who wouldn't mind reading what Dizzy had to say.


True, true but, there is a slight difference taking charge and running the show. I'm thinking the album will be about 85-90% Axl and 10-15% the rest of the band. Those are by no means real #'s but just my opinion on what the music credits may look like. Axl scatched and clawed to get sole control of GnR, I highly doubt he would hand out peices of it out like it was a Christmas present of "Dogs and Suds Secret Sauce" :hihi:

serious?      from what we know it?s pretty safe to say that it`s nearly the other way around.... it`s called a "collaborative effort".

No...no...no...You can bet your ass Axl will have a large majority of the songwriting credits. His money invested, his money will be recouped.  ;D

People act the way they do with good reason. Some of the stuff this guys is saying Dizz said just dont add up to what he normally says. And to dangle a little "info" like hes doing totally reeks of attention seeking ala madison with her "axl told me the fist single" thing.

Reputation? Who are you, Kurt Loder? ?:hihi:

If Dizzy knew he was doing an interview, why would this be a problem? Maybe you should not have paraphrased it since it obviously mis interpreted what Dizzy said , yeah Id be pissed to if I was mis quoted. If you are going to post a real interview you should accurately quote your source.

It's just silly and attention seeking. If I came across some GN'R stuff I couldn't wait to share it with the fans. Instead this poster has their own interests which is to seek attention, before anything else.

Yeah see my posts from yesterday about this "collaboration" (pages 2-5) They are just my opinions but feel free to comment :beer:

BTW if you think Axl is only responsible for 10-15% of this upcoming album....then dude, you need to lay of the drugs. seriously man

Now thats just too damn bad now isn't it?? If this guy is right, we'll find out in a week anyway.? And who on this thread was acting paranoid?? It's called being realistic.? Thats why I enjoy this board.

Well done HTGTH.

Who SERIOUSLY gives a fuck about what Dizzy Reed said to that guy ?

hey, until you can actually proove that this madagascar88 is a fake, then shut the fuck up!

I'm actually surprised Jarmo hasen't done anything about this to shut some of you bashers up...??

If you don't believe this or find it interesting SHUT THE FUCK UP GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!, go post somewhere else, atention seekers... :-* :rant:

its def a real interview...but why act all gay with the wait until next week until I tell you why youll get excited again. Fuk that. Its a ll games. And pathetic. Either say it or dont bring it up at all. Dont be a dick about it. Its annoying.

Well, this thread has taken a violent turn.  ;D

Also, madagascar88 has seem to be missing.  :yes:

Just, some random observations.  :o

I agree. If you don't think it is legit, then state your opinion and move on. Harping on a poster makes the forum look mean spirited.

He's not missing - He PM'd me.

I can vouch for him being a Cornell student and that Dizzy was at Cornell.

After all - I AM Cornell.  :P

Madagascar88, don't worry man.  People didnt believe me that I sang onstage with a GNR tribute band (who Dizzy opened the show for and play two songs with onstage) on Halloween because I was dressed up as the new Axl.  I think people here still dont believe me actually.  But whatever, the shit was fun as hell and I talked to Dizzy at his merch table for about 30 seconds before I left.  I am sure you had a great experience. 

All you guys who don't believe this and are bashing him, are fucking it up for everyone.  If you really don't believe the guy, then don't come to this thread and post.  Leave us believers to ourselves.  And for that one person who emailed Dizzy on myspace, sweet move : ok: :rant:  Have a little fuckin patience.

You people seriously can't wait one damn week to see if this is true or not? 

Like I said earlier, if you don't believe this guy, then DONT POST HERE!

calm down dude :no:

i don`t think this is something like an "axl solo project". he may wrote some songs and some parts and the lyrics of course. but the rest was written by the band. axl isn`t really into writing songs i guess.... by the way i`m happy about every song axl writes....

Madagascar88
Fuck the people who say shit...It's the internet for fuck sakes dude.
I for one am interested in hearing the rest of what you've got to say.

I'm calm. :hihi: are my posts that bad that people think I'm pissed off allt the time or something? ;D I'm not, I guess I'm just misunderstood. :'( :peace:

Axl has wrote lots of songs without his old bandmates, November Rain, The Garden, Dead Horse, Yesterdays, Breakdown, Shotgun Blues, Estranged & My World from the Illusion Records, before that all credits went to "Guns N Roses" not individuals so it's harder to track back then. The lawsuit for royalties stated that Axl was responsible for like 40% or something of all the song writing way back then. I just think you can expect much higher numbers for this upcoming album. It will be very Axl driven IMHO.

I'm with you warose.

Neemo, My point is that this band is, in its own right, no less a genuine band than any other band ever existed. Apparently they get on well with each other personally, not to mention musically.. I'm positive that each member of the band contributes and dedicate to the band as much as any band animal does to their band....... save for Axl.

The thing is just that the leader is not like other band front men. He not only being a sole lyric writer has served concurrently as a producer, a manager, an A&Rman and many other things while other bands entrust these chores to professionals outside the band.
Well you long term fans may see it as an Axl project because your interests are only Axl. But to complete the project, this band has to be Guns n Roses. That is Chinese Democracy.

Axl Rose: " There's a lot of things that? we come up with new ideas that we're working on as we go, and it is a really, really slow process, because it's kind of left more to ourselves in trying to figure it our where? What I've seen in this industry is that, if a record company? I don't know. There seems to be a lot more support for getting things done with newer bands, and it's got a lot to do with contracts being, you know, they don't have to spend as much money on the band, and they're trying to get it out there, and the next thing you know, they've sold a couple of albums and then they don't care about that band anymore and they move on and that band falls apart. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of support for bands that have been around. That's my experience. So in putting this thing together, in a lot of ways, I've had to do way more jobs in it than I'm supposed to ? I've had to be manager, A&R man, producer, sole lyric writer, and a lot of [other] things, where GUNS N' ROSES, to me, what I worked really hard at was making it a collaborative effort, and it was a lot of people involved. This is a collaborative effort with the players, but the players aren't exactly sure what it should be to try to win over the world GUNS N' ROSES style. So that's kind of my responsibility. It took a long time, but now it's working, and I think we'll have the right record, and when we do drop the record, the plan is to drop the record, have a bunch of extra tracks, about a year or so down the road drop another record and drop a third record. This is a three-stage thing and we'll be touring for a real long time." - from  101 WRIF radio interview, Nov. 21 2002
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=581

WARose/ppbebe I'm not saying it is not a genuine band, hmmmmm

here lets take a old GnR song

November Rain, Axl's baby. He wrote the whole bloody thing, arranged the orchestra on his computer and all that shit (or so i recall reading) of course Duff Did the bass parts and Slash played solos and Matt played drums, but it's Axl's song. With the piano and beat layed down all Sorum would've had to do is mimic it and add a bit of his own artistic flair, same with the Izzy and Slash on rhythm guitar and Duff on Bass. Dizzy just plays what Axl does. Then Slash goes back over it and adds a couple Solos. (It's not hard to lay a solo on a song if you know what you are doing, and i think we can all agree that Slash knows what he's doing when it comes to guitars, solo's kick ass but they don't make songs.) BAM!! there is the finished NR.

But who wrote it?

Yes of course Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy all contributed to it but Axl wrote the motherfucker.

PS i heard that Interview live BTW  :beer: I happened to be driving through Detroit at the time

Ok i agree I might have been a little high on the 85%/15% bit, but I seriously think it'll be close to that ratio. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Axl gets sole song writing credits on more than half the songs.

I would.

This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.

me, too.  well  let the point alone, that axl said numerous times that it`s a collaborative effort. and he can`t release a new gnr record on which half of the songs are written by him , without having the media bitching about a solo record etc....



and well    i guess you can`t compare the old band?s writing style to the new ones. not that i`d know what`s going on, from what we`ve heard it`s really different. didn?t axl/dizzy/tommy say in an interview some years ago that they were colllecting ideas, first and then saved them and after that started to built songs out of it?        well   i hope we`ll see who wrote what, soon, but until then i`ll believe that it`s a real collaborative effort. ppbebe  do you have some more quotes?

No, I think you're a fake  :drool:

Feel free to look stupid. : ok:

 No To GN'R Re-union
Written by Administrator   
Wednesday, 25 January 2006

Merck Mercuriadis has told Splat that there is 'no truth' to recent news reports stating that Axl wants to reform the original line-up of GN'R (a story that has somehow evolved from the recent Rolling Stone story).

There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

anyone else post this already from the ol sp1at?

I heard this Merck guy is really "in the know"

Thanks rainX : ok:

The first part was believable IMO.

So does that mean that this entire interview is no longer valid?

Because if it is, then I think that Madagascar88 should be banned. He should never be allowed to post here again.

If it means that, then Chinese Democracy also came out in 2005.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  Is this a joke?  So splat knows who this kid is and that he goes to Cornell and is Zeta Psi fraternity.  Is Splat in the FBI?  :hihi:  This whole thing is getting rediculas, and has splat ever had reliable news?

What? Sp1at is like the CNN of the GNR world.

yer, that and they control the mpa, along with the underground railroad. lol

Now things are getting rediculous.

Yeah, splat are the Woodward and Bernstein of useless GnR rumor mongering.

No it doesn't mean the whole Axl interview was a fake or isn't true.. just the way some media twisted it around to make it look like Axl agrees there will be a reunion.

Merck makes it sound like he is acknowledging Dizzy did make the comments but they are untrue?

why is everyone giving this kid a hard time. why is it so hard to believe that he hung out with dizzy for a couple hours. Maybe dizzy had a couple drinks and got loose tongued...

I for one would have really enjoyed reading the other half of the interview.... way to be a bunch of wankers and piss the kid off :rant:

Or rather the particular comment is untrue? GDU.


Now? Naa, they were getting ridiculous when some ppl started to twist Axls comment.  :rofl:
Likewise 88 guy must have misinterpreted something.


Just so many...for instance this one, which is not the best one but handy. Keen insight btw. : ok:

After intimating that most of the lyrics and vocals are Axl's, but that he and Dizzy Reed do a lot of the back-up vocals, Tommy states that songwriting-wise, "there'll probably be compositions that started with each of us and were compiled by all of us, on the whole record, yeah. I would be willing to wager that that is how it turns out, because Axl is the kind of guy who is always looking out for the fairest way to do it so everyone's happy. Because obviously, that's the kind of thing that screwed up the old band. Everybody had songs they wanted to write, and have Axl sing, and then there got to be infighting, I think, with whose songs were going to be on the record. He's really conscious of that, so it ends up being a bit of everyone on there."
-Tommy September 2004 bravewords.com
Special Report By Martin Popoff

Dammit, I was just getting into the interview, and it sounds like everybody chased Madagascar88 off.  That's really not cool.  I would have enjoyed Part III.   :(

When why would Dizzy say it then? Just seems so out of character for Dizzy  :-\

Yeah Diz just seems too delibarate in his speech to let slip this kinda gossip. I mean this.


Did Merck say this?

Dizzy might have said it, he might have not. Sometimes people say things which are to a certain extent true but shouldn't have said it. Or for the wiser, should've kept it for themselves. Sometimes it's the other way around. And sometimes people back eachother up to stand corrected or to clear the past sayings. Bar gossip








 ?

Same  :no:

Holy crap, that's creepy.

It show's that they're WATCHING.? :nervous:

It shows that they are BORED... with nothing to do...

Um possibly because he didnt say it lol

I think the whole purpose of this was to get us all riled up. Why would it be posted in 3 parts taking days to do so, then witholdingthe last part when some of us got critical. Is this interview so hard not to believe? Especially when it is paraphrased. Why not quote Dizzy accurately? Less mis interpretation that way. I hope it is legit but the 2nd part kind of made me think this is BS.

Me too.. did you see how quickly he didnt want to "damage his reputation and integrity".. and he said "anymore than it has been"...

If Dizzy had said that shit he wouldnt have gotten all pissed off and worried when i told him i was gonna ask Dizzy myself..  and the part about "if i get a phone call or email about this" does he really think that Dizzy is gonna call him and say "what the fuck man?"

If he had ANY question about it at all or had any kind of friendship with Dizzy Reed he would have kept his trap shut...  If Dizzy or any friend would tell you something that you know he wouldnt want spread all over the world on the internet they why even hint at it... I think he was full of shit.... I dont belive that shit he made up about Izzy at all... coz all that ive ever heard about Izzy from people who know him or met him have said that Izzy is a cool as fuck mofo....

Would you like me to whip up a quick Dizzy interview? It'll only take about 5 or 10 minutes for me to write. I promise not to hold back any "inside info", or make you wait for a 3rd installment. :confused:

dont go to mygnrforum looking for it either.. its not there.. i just checked it for curiosity and he hasnt posted it there either...

Why not? I thought he was more loved there.

Some guy, with nothing better to do, constructs a mass Dizzy Reed interview to piss off a few hundred people worldwide  ::)

Nah man, if it's not a mygnr exclusive.. then it's not worth the read  :hihi:

All I have to say is Damn.

This thread is harsh!

You're all retarded for chasing Madagascar88 off.

Merck just confirms stuff officially - of course there's no plans for a GNR reunion.

Dizzy never said that in the interview, he just said that the ex-band members' agents had been in contact with Axl's management.

It doesn't mean anything came out of it.

Even if this were fake, Dizzy would have contacted Merck or vise-versa and they would have tried to have it removed or at the very least have it discredited.

Until that happens, I believe the interview's real.

I agree. It was at least worth archiving for later confirmation. Now Maddie88 is probably pissed as hell. I would be.

I think it's really uncalled for and unnecessary the way some people attack someone they don't believe.  Its not like anybody doing the name calling had any facts to back up their position. 

The guy was probably telling the truth, even if he didn't quote exactly or misinterpreted some things Dizzy said.  He's not a professional journalist.  I don't blame him for bailing either.  And its a good thing he didn't say whatever that "bit of info" was.  Some fool would have asked Dizzy about it on myspace and Dizzy will never talk to him again. 

Being the first one to call someone a liar doesn't make you look smart, in case anyone was wondering.  When you don't really know what you are talking about, it just makes you look like an ass.

but he did say he had it video taped.. the interview... so there should be no misiterpretation....

why not just keep it for yourself then??? ding ding ding... suprise!!! coz he never had any "info"

then why would he open up his trap on the internet about something that dizzy didnt want him to reveal??? you know why???
again coz there wasnt any info... thats why he bailed out..   Its a free internet.. i can ask dizzy anything i want to ask him.. if dizzy replys then fine.. if he tells me fuck off thats fine too.. but if he wants to tell something  then "some fool" has all the right in the world to try to verify it....

being the first one to belive a fans interview stating that the members of VR want a reunion doesnt make you look smart either


i know i wasnt....

glass house, stones.....

This guy conducted himself in a childish and unprofessional manner with this "interview". It had nothing to do with giving GNR fans any information, it was about having the spotlight on himself, and he was trying to keep that spotlight on for as long as possible. He acted shocked when we all didn't fall in line with his little agenda, but he had to know witholding "inside info" would cause a minor stir. If you'll look back and research Dizzy interviews, you will see that he has never spoken like this before.
 ?Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.
 ?The next time you want to insult me or one of the other people here for not falling for this hook, line, and sinker, go read a book on ethics, or take a journalism class.

You're acting like this interview was published or something.

I'll be the FIRST asshole to just come out and say it , burn me afterwards if you like ... for me personally , if Dizzy didnt say in "part 3" of this interview when Democracy was coming out then I really dont care what he has to say.

Thats pretty selfish I know , but thats just how I feel.

Flame away.  :peace:

Since Axl told Madison what the first single is, maybe Dizzy told Madagascar what the 2nd single is. :hihi:

posting it on the internet is damn near the samething.... your quoting someone famous.. and then when any verification is done you run and hide??? ?thats pretty chicken shit if you ask me...

The interview wasn't discredited - just the bit where the author implied that Dizzy's comments suggested a band reunion.

Now you understand the problem with this "interview".

thats true... so if its already getting replys from the band management you know they are looking at this thread and interview...

I've seen my share of fake interviews with band members on this very site. They all sound the same.

If this were real:

Dizzy is a prick

Dizzy doesn't know anything about anything going on with the band, except that Slash and Duffs managers want a reunion.

If this were real the whole "interview" could have been done in one post, not over several days. The meat of the interview wouldn't need to be teased about.

I may be wrong and this could be real, but I would be very disappointed in Dizzy.

So you would rather have had Dizzy make something up... :hihi:

Notice how Splat doesn't say "According to Merck there is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revalation...". From the above passage, we can conclude that Merck knows nothing of the interview posted in this thread.

Now that is shitty journalism.

I never thought I'd say this.. but jameslofton29, you're spot on?word for word : ok:

this was brought to my attention by chineseblues:

posted by Lisa Reed:


http://p221.ezboard.com/fthesirdizzyreedappreciationsocietypart2frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=3103.topic&start=21&stop=29

Thanks rainx.

Such a shame people have to take advantage of how cool and easily accessible Dizzy is to his and the bands fans. Must make him just not want to do it anymore.

I think you are starting to understand why most superstars end up appearing like assholes  : ok:

I don't doubt he is a student there, or that he met Dizzy. I just doubt EVERYTHING else.

If you are paraphrasing an "interview" like that, wouldn't you write everything you can remember all at once? And if its not exactly what he said, why write his answers out like its exactly what came out of his mouth? Why is the "good stuff" not written right away? If he was sworn to secrecy about it, why would he say anything in the first place?

Pleeeease...

and there you have it.... looks like we were right to question it.....

Thanks Gunner! ?:beer: Its times like this when we need to stick together, and not fall for every little scam that comes along in the GNR world, and not cave in to those who start them and those that believe them. We have seen fake stories, fake rumours, fake song leaks, etc. Until Axl releases this album, we will continue to see those things. To use the words of Sinead O Connor: 'Fight the Enemy'. : ok: :peace: 8)

None of these things mean he isn't telling the truth.

Of course Merck is gonna say what he said, and of course Lisa is gonna say that. You think she's just gonna be like "yeah, my husband was making out with college chicks!"

where is said "frat boy" now... is he sticking by it or is Lisa Reed a liar now too???? ? glad someone else tried to verify it by showing the interview to lisa and asking questions about it...... and anyone who wanted to give me shit for asking Dizzy about it on myspace can get in the ring....

No offense, but why isn't it possible that this kid made up the interview? Look at your last line, would it make sense this kid would say that on a forum where Dizzy's family would read it, then say he dosen't want to endanger his status in the band?

I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better

to me that means hes lying in a nice way


where did that come from????

Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt  talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..

Does this mean we can all let rip and start talking shit on "Frat Boys"?  :hihi:

Its pretty obvious that some of the account has been exaggerated, you only have to look at certain things that are said in the first few lines of the interview to figure that out! I wont say anymore as someone deleted the original posts i made back on Pg1 pointing this out!

Jonx

Exaclty, im glad someone else pointed this out!

As i said in the post above, i pointed this whole "making out with college chicks" thing at the begining of this thread, but my posts were deleted!

Jonx

His wife stays at home and runs a message board while he goes off and tours.

Yeah, I bet he doesn't hide anything from her...

Your little swipes at Lisa Reed are beyond pathetic.

15 years of marriage says that he doesnt! And i think she has a pretty good idea of what its like to be on tour with Rockstars, after all one of her books is about this very subject!

Jonx

Hey - if this interview is already "putting Dizzy's status in GNR on the line", why not let it ruin a marriage as well?

She's in denial.

so of course if she wrote books about it and shes been married to a rockstar.. shes not stupid and shes not gonna be fooled.. and for anyone to question Lisa Reed or her marriage based on some stupid 20something, pimplefaced, star struck college kids interview is not only rude, low and just wrong..... ?

she can comment on it just the same as you can or i can but where your taking this is wrong.... your gonna belive that pimple faced kid over lisa reed??? ?

I'm going to believe this interview is real until proven otherwise.

There's no reason not to thus far.

I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student. ?And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word. ?Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate? ?Sure. ?But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar. ?Don't let the others bother you.

i don't understand why bother lisa reed if people already were deeming this interview a fake? ???

Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

A billion internet posters can scream "OMG THAT'S FAKE!", and yet it doesn't matter because they have no proof.

That's why Dizzy is now in the wonderful situation where if he denies the interview happened, he betrays the fraternity that hosted him, and if he confirms the interview happened, he damages his relationship with Lisa.

Here's to drama!

 :beer:

I think this topic needs a lock until Madi can provide proof to one of the mods, rip the tape to MP3 or something and post it on the net!

Why can't we just wait to hear from someone in the GNR camp?

If this is that big of a deal to them, they'll deny either parts of the interview as factual or the whole thing completely.

We're all part of the same GNR community dude - regardless of what forum you choose to visit. 
And I speak out when a member of that community is being unfairly bashed.

The most embarrassing part of this entire thread is how you have acted, jameslofton. If you choose to not believe it, then state your opinion and move on. But to literally harass this person when you had no evidence other than intutiion is really repellant. The piece maybe exaggerated or just plain wrong in spots but you had no proof behind your accusations.   Lisa Reed and Merck have raised questions about the piece but it has not been shown to be  fabricated.  Unfortunately because of your behavior in this thread, the original poster will probably not answer any more questions that now have been raised.  Good job.  :rant:

And even though Lisa and Merck have raised questions, you have not been vindicated. Your behavior was out of line and you should be ashamed.

I heard Lisa Reed was gunna sell the interview on ebay.  ???

Just what I heard , I dunno if anyone can confirm it or not? Mysteron? Merck? Madison?!  ???

rainx,
you're borderline stupid, I reckon.

You're completely useless as a poster.

Somebody had to say it.

I think this whole community has sunken to an all time low  :(

Well it's better I hear it from you , DunkinDave , then anyone else.  : ok:

KV, the most embarassing part of the thread was the first post, and how the guy offered up this interview. I didn't harass this person. How could I, when it got a little hot here, he took off. Me and several others were just discussing the authenticity of this interview. If you cant handle that, then maybe you should post in other threads. But I'm done with this thread. I made my point, and I dont want to start anything here with fellow members, ?and its slowly coming out that the info is garbage anyways..

No prob.

as much as I'd love to post the video... and in fact, talking to some of the brothers- that was their suggestion for me to get out of this mess... I couldn't do that.

Madagascarshithole,
Shut the fuck up. It's the best you can do. I guarantee you.

Post a screencap and/or photograph of you sitting next to Dizzy, at the very least.

He posted something on mygnrforum...

He admited the interview is fake.

So is about 99.4% of every rumor , fan encounter , interview in our lil GNR world.  I'm starting to think you guys are all fake too.  :nervous:  This is not real , I've been duped.

It's like , when a friend tlls me something now , no matter how mundane it is , I almost feel like yelling at him ,"oh yeah?! Name your sources you one post wonder!"

From now on when someone lies to me or tricks me in real life I think I'll just say "when do you think chinese democracy will come out?"

I just read his statement at mygnr. What a douche bag. He met Dizzy, but all the juicy details were lies.

What a complete tool.

(http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4296/18mo2.jpg)



GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Considering how you fly off the handle whenever some rumor is posted, I wonder whether it is a good for this forum for you to chase around those who post this information. there maybe a time when the information is genuine and the poster is being honest. It is not good buisness for a community act the way in which this thread has shown. Proof was requested very early on but still the conversation degenerated into name calling. This happens habitually to Mysteron as well. One day, idiots here will chase away someone with something important to say. We are getting to that point.

If you read maddie 88's response on mygnr, he only said that he exaggerated on one part, not the whole interview. Considering his comments about respect towards Lisa and Diz, I actually think he is saying this to protect them. The comments could very well be true but he is backing off. He does say that the interview was genuine and has pictures to prove it.

No they weren't.


So he's admitting this isn't real:

But the rest of the interview he still claims is genuine.

Exactly.

Once again : feel free to look stupid. : ok:

Wow - you just repeated your adversary's insult after being proven wrong.

You fail internet flaming.

Dizzy responded to Madagascar88's apology:

How was he proven wrong? The guy admitted to embellishing the interview, which calls into question the entire thing. No one denied he met Dizzy, it was the details that were being disputed, and rightfully so.

KV, you have a point, but I disagree. If it wasn't for me and the others who disputed this "interview", this guy would still be being worshipped like a God. By the way, I dont jump on to every person who posts a rumour, just the ones that smell like shit. This one did. Earlier I said I wasn't gonna post in this thread anymore, but you replied to one of my comments so I did. I'm not giving this creep anymore attention, because its obvious thats all he wants. If you have anything further to say to me about this "interview", do it by PM. :peace:

And the obligatory "get the last word in so that anyone else in the thread challenging me will be greeted with 'I told you to take it to PM's, and I would have stopped, but you had to egg me on, didn't you?' " response.

You also fail at internet flaming.

Since he's gone to bed i'll step in briefly...

...He's re-retracted the statement saying it was a lie guys. He said that it was a lie because he was worried about what Dizzy would think if he posted it on the internet.

He's gotten an email back from Diz, and he's not shitty at all, so uhh the only thing he lied about was saying that he lied if i'm making any sense.... ;)

Check the thread again and read his latest post. I can quote it if it's needed.

Uhh - this is his latest post on mygnr.


 ;)

EDIT: My apologies Dave - I didn't see that you'd already posted it...

I'm used to boards with darker colours. :P :hihi:

WOW just saw the pictures...Not sure if its already been posted in this long ass thread,
but here is the link

http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?page=pics&event=afterparty06&numpics=36


Dizzy Reed the King lol! Funny stuff.

wow, this has turned into a very entertaining, if not rather scandolous thread.

My head is spinning, I dont know what to believe now!  :peace:

I predict they're gonna film a music video.

Whatever and if it's true, we'll find out about whatever will happen when it happens. I'm over all this shit.

Even the picture is fake dumbass.

Regardless the truth and exactness of this interview, just let me say education is needed in every aspect of life, even when you post on a gnr forum. It's been just anoying to read some people posts and their lack of education.

The less educated guy here is Madagascar88.

Though just my opionion. :-*

I suggest that anybody who's into the insulting thing should stop it right away.


Fine, you don't believe the interview. That's one thing. Calling the poster names is another. It's the kind of behaviour we don't accept here.


/jarmo

I think madagascar88 doesn't want Dizzy to be fired.

man ....  is that the fraternity ? ahahah. c++ and java programming fraternity ? ;)

So let me see if I get this right.

Dude says he gets to spend a w/e with Dizzy, asks for questions we would like asked.
Dude says he spent the w/e and will post a transcript of answers.
Dude posts some answers, more to come.
Dude starts to get flamed.
Dude posts second part, w/ a little more meat from Dizwald
Dude gets flamed huge, dude gets pissed and says no more
Dude gets flamed, name calling ensues.
Dude posts pictures, called fake.
Dude apologizes for embellishing some parts of article.
Dude e-mails apology to Dizzy, gets reply back saying its ok
Dude retracts apology, gets last laugh

Do I got this right?
I'm so confused

I second that, Is madagascar88 claiming this legit still? or has he admitted it's a hoax? :confused:

i think he admitted it was hoax, but then rejected his statement, because he just wanted to "safe" dizzy

Ill believe Lisa Reed over some poster ona  mesageboard any day of the week. : ok:

So I guess all these photos are fake as well http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?page=pics&event=afterparty06&numpics=36? ::)

I think I missed something.  This thread grew overnight and I can't figure out what you are talking about.  Did Lisa Reed say something about this interview thing?

cool pics.  :D


From what I gather, it's not hoax. He did have a chat/ interview with Dizzy.
Just it seems that his paraphrases of the conversation involve some misinterpretations/ exaggerations and may be misleading.

Dizzy's wife says...

Thanks ppbebe.


Anyone know which part Lisa would have reemed him about?  I don't recall reading anything about her in the interview.

Tank, back to your songwriting credits stuff-from Tommy in late 2004

GUNS N' ROSES Bassist Hopes New Album Will Be Completed This Fall - Sep. 15, 2004
GUNS N' ROSES bassist Tommy Stinson recently told Canada's Chart Attack that the group's long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy" is nearing completion. "I would imagine they would start mastering it some time in October, November, somewhere in there," Stinson said. "I just wanted to make sure I got my two cents in so I couldn't look back and go, 'Dudes, what's up?' And they go, 'Dude, where were you? You didn't say anything!' So I got my two cents in on it."

And what was Stinson's two cents?

"My two cents was very much like a cent and a half," he said. "It's like, all the stuff I heard was phenomenal. I didn't get a chance to listen to all of it, because I was pressed for time. But also I wanted to hear the things I hadn't heard yet. Some of the stuff had been done a while ago and hadn't changed much; I didn't really bother with that. But I wanted to hear all the new stuff and I heard about six things that I hadn't heard finished yet, that were really mind-blowing. A few of the songs are pretty epic in length, but that's always been GN'R's thing, hasn't it? I don't think it's a particularly long album, but I think the six I heard are pretty epic. I mean they are just... fucking huge, you know [laughs]. I think pretty much all of us in the band have some songwriting credits on just about everything.  The undertaking was pretty much a large collaboration between eight people, even a couple others who aren't around anymore, but maybe started with pieces of the old band or whatever. But yeah, there is probably a lot to go around with that one."   :beer:
 
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Yeah i saw this in the other thread. and PM's both WARose and ppbebe and said I guess I was wrong. :-[

funny though that nobody has heard final mixes or what parts that will get on the final album, or that apparently Richards ideas were'nt used. etc. etc.

whatever, i really don't want to bring it all up again, you guys win.....for now

"Ahhhlllll be Back!" :hihi:

I doubt Tommy has a very good idea about what the final songwriting credits will be. That interview was over a year ago. Axl will have credits on every song-almost guaranteed if he is the sole lyric writer as he claims. However, it remains to be seen as who the other people will be and how often. There is no right answer. :P

It's getting a bit silly that even if someone posts pictures of themselves with a member of GN'R, they're called a fake. What on Earth will you people accept as true? A signed affadavit from Axl himself?

SG

you are correct, no one quite knows what we are gonna see or hear concerning the future of this band and know one knows exactly who all the people are that have influenced the composition of whatever songs may appear on it. No-one except Axl that is, which was also the corner stone of my argument, one fact that i don't think anyone can deny.

I'm not saying they are fake but what about the one with the crown on Dizzy's head, the crown looks really badly photoshopped IMO. http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/pictures/afterparty06/images/12.jpg

Tanks madagas! :D

The credit business must take hell long time, considering.  :confused:


in a week......??? mmm something to do with Sanctuary?

Yes. ?Clearly the entire fraternity got together and decided to shoot a bunch of pictures with someone wearing certain clothes, so they could later photshop in Dizzy's head and tattoos. ?And it was all to pull a prank on GNR message board members. ?Because in that fraternity, everyone's world revolves around internet message boards, especially GNR. ?Makes total sense.

What a Fn' soap opera. Honestly, who really cares about this interview THAT much to criticize every aspect of it. If it's true (which I think it probably is) then great. But it really just adds a bit more to the saga that has started up again since the groundhog emerged from his den. It isn't groundbreaking and isn't even overly exciting (unless, I suppose, you were actually there).

As far as the 'event'...at first it just sounded to me as if Dizzy might have mentioned to M88 something like the entire band was going to be getting together for a meeting or perhaps rehearsals of some kind. If you read it from the beginning, it doesn't mention anything about it being something done in public (ie: performance or announcement). Then Dizzy, apparently, goes on to say that whatever IT is, "there will be enough info. on the internet to satisfy everyone soon enough." Although M88 claims that is in response to IT, it may very well just mean that some news may be coming soon. Either way, I doubt the IT event will be much more than a meeting between the entire band (which certainly would be nice to hear). Perhaps that meeting will be for a private listening party, or maybe a photo session, or maybe (like someone else mentioned) a video shoot.

Regardless if you believe M88 or not, leave him alone. The boy is excited to have spent a weekend with Dizzy and wants to share it with us (but knows too many assholes are not concerned with his joy in the matter and just want some hard core gossip from him).

Just be happy for the boy, concentrate on what real news you do hear and keep the faith. One of these days ALL the 'rumors' will be put to rest.

Sin, good post. ;D

I think Madagascar88 deserves credit. He has given us the most thought-out hoax in the history of HTGTH, in my opinion.

Give him a high-five.  : ok:

By the way, that picture of Dizzy Reed with the crown on looks entirely fake. I'll have to look at the rest of the pictures and inspect for anything unusual.

IF YOU think they're fake then they are very convincing:

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8682/223bh.jpg)

Dizzy is bloody-thirsty  :hihi:

I think you deserve credit for sticking to your belief that the whole thing is fake, despite any and all evidence to the contrary.

I could understand sticking to the idea that some of it was exagerated or embellished.  But to keep insisting the whole thing is a hoax, that takes real conviction!

Once again, just for the slower among you...

Madagascar88 is legitimate.

Thank you, Madagascar88 for the cool interview, photo's and 'news'.  :beer:

Like I said before.  madagasgar88 is a Cornell student and Dizzy was on campus.  He did interview him - if he stretched the truth of the interview, I have no idea why (more exciting?).

Great post SINSHINE, my thoughts exactly!!? :beer:

how can you people seriosulys ay those pictures are fake? I mean cmon. as for the interview im sure the base of it is true. the only problem i have i saying i know something you dont know part. its childish and it shouldnt have been said at all

Younggunner...I said one picture looked fake and it did!

I mean look at it. I looked at the other pictures and they looked fine but that one picture looked hideous.

I have not yet concluded on the subject that the whole thing is fake but there are things about it that are. That one picture, parts of the interview, etc...

All you posters do here is try to slam each other and it will bring you nothing!

you'd have to be entirely crazy to think any of the pictures are "photoshopped"... god lord, get a life if that idea even runs through your head

if u want more pictures of Dizzy wearing that king crown... Kelly (a brother's girlfriend) will be updating the website pictures section tonight as soon as she finds her digital camera->USB connector.

don't u guys have more important things to talk about?? such as the email from Dizzy I received?? god... I'm so pumped right now 'cause... it looks like Chinese Democracys is truly being staged for release.

I'm with you. I think we're coming to the end of the line...  :beer:

You're the one that put the photos up and you know dam well that the crown picture looks fake.

And, you better not be leading us on by saying that cd is being staged for release. There will be a lot of anger if that statement is not true.

I've been coming here for 2 1/2 years now and so I have every reason in the world to be pessimistic. Just like anybody else that has been here for that long (or longer).

That just shows how pathetic the GnR community is, not just that one statement but some people are on here as if they are waiting for the holy grail. It's a album that was ment to be released by it's Summer 1998 deadline, by a band that broke up years ago.

Someof you really shouldn't be as OBSESSED as you are about this album, I'm a huge GnR fan and I support VR & NuGnR (Yes people you can like both bands) and I'm looking forward to VRs new album, and if Axls deventually comes it comes and if it doesn't then you wont have missed nothing you won't of had.



Anyway I've dragged this topic off course, Madagascar88 thanks alot for the interview and photos? :peace:

This is exactly WHY it is like a Holy Grail.

And the Da Vinci Code keeps coming to mind...  :hihi:

i... attend an Ivy league school, intern during the summer on Wall Street, and scored near perfect on my SATs.... how about u?

Didn't I tell some of you to stop the insults?

That means, don't bother replying to the ones posted earlier.  : ok:




/jarmo

Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

And how do u know this..?  :-*

Because he found the holy grail...

The failsafe stream of information that is the Internet. God bless it!

Seriously though, just another website that many people read in hopes of catching a glimpse of what is behind the veil. I have no idea if there is anything to be read into this or if it has any relevence at all to GN'R. Just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone could expand on it.

hey... can some people just make two posts? i need to reserve the 380th post for when I post the 3rd installment tonight... 'cause well... its at the top of the page and would look more snazzy.

wish i could just put it all in the first post like in mygnr but there's limits on # of characters here for some reason.

thank you.

Minkwood? Whos that?

all right fine... i'll do it myself....

Part III (Part IV on page 24)

What was the deal with Dave Navarro joining the band following Izzy's departure?

Umm... he was supposed to play with us [concerts]... and for rehearsals... he never showed up for rehearsals. ?he agreed to... I don't know if he agreed to or not... but we set up rehearsals.. we had Madison Square Garden coming up and a bunch of other shows. ?2 nights went by and he never showed up so... we had to get somebody else so we got Gilby.

On April 1, 2005 - on April Fool's Day, a small clip of the song 'IRS' was posted on the internet. ?What was your response to the whole ordeal and what do you think happened?

I... I only know what I've heard. ?I heard something about Mike Piazza... playing it on a radio station. [shrugs] ?[I chime in and comment "Eddie Trunks Radio Station] yea... it was so bizarre... like I don't know how he would've got ahold of it. [I chime in adding that I thought Axl gave Mike the clip almost as a birthday gift] ... um.. that's possible. I don't know. ?I mean Mike seemed really cool when I met... really nice- he signed a baseball for my son...

So how did Hookers N Blow come along?

Hookers N Blow... I play at this place called the Cat Club on Thursdays. ?And I also do this thing with Happenin' Harry and the Half-tons [?] which are Sundays at the Cat Club and Wednesdays at this place called the ____. ?And a couple of the guys that sit in on those sessions approached me about doing some shows on the East coast... umm.. this guy Matt Starr and Alex Grossi- they're both from Connecticut and so I'm I say... sure let's do it. Now when they were booking some shows they wanted to call it the "Dizzy Reed band" ... I'm like 'that's so gay' and so they ask "well... what do you wanna call it then" and I'm like "I dont know... Hookers N Blow" so... it just kind of went from there. ?And its actually been very successful - very fun doing it.

What is your favorite song to cover with Hookers N Blow?

I like playing all the Guns stuff but do some really cool versions of like... "Time of the Season"... it's so much fun to play. We do some Motorhead... and uhh... god what else do we do... all the 70s stuff you know... its great cause thats what I like... Rolling Stones, Bowie, the Who.. we got some Beatles, 60s stuff too. ?You know we throw in a couple Guns N' Roses songs otherwise a lot of the clubs wouldn't let us out alive.

[Sergey the pledge asks:] I heard you guys also do some Aerosmith?

Yes... we do some Aerosmith... uhh... Mama Kin, Dream On.. and uh... I think that's it. ?I love the cover of Ziggy Stardust.

So what was your favorite Guns N' Roses show ever... whether it be with the new band or the old?

hmm.. I'm gonna have to go with the new lineup. ?The last show that we did which was Madison Square Garden was definitely my favorite show although there's so many... I mean we're talking about hundreds of shows... you know there were some great moments. ?Ronny Wood came up and played with us in... Tokyo. ?He came and played at the Tokyo Dome. ?And another time... Gilby had... and I wouldn't say its one of my favorite moments but... Gilby had broken his wristand we had some European dates coming up so we ended up asking Izzy to come fill in while Gilby's wrist healed. ?Gilby flew out to meet us in London and we were playing Milton Keynes... its this big outdoor venue they have there... and Ronny Wood was there 'cause we had seen him in Ireland too. ?It's funny cause you think of Izzy and Gilby like they're two prototypes of the rhythm guitar guy... they got the same haircut, the same vibe and everything... ?they're both great players- they're all great players... while Gilby was out, we had him play whenever he could... and Ron Wood was playing and Izzy... so we had all three of those guys were on stage together at the same time playing 'Knockin' on Heavens Door' and I was like... "o wow"... I'm like in the Ron Wood club so... that was a fun moment.

What was it like to play the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in '92?

You know... it was a pretty special event... it felt like... you could feel the energy and vibe.. and just all the people were really... like you could really it from the crowd- very caring and just we need to do something about this horrible disease. and just the fact that all those people were able to come together and play the show was kind of microcosm of what was going on... in the world at the time. ?It was pretty incredible. ?We could only play two songs... so we played two songs and flew out.

All right... this guy almost spammed me with mail 'cause he wanted you to read it so much... here... it says... from "fuck your enemy"... he says... this is his letter to you...

"Dizzy. I'd really like it if you could tell Axl how much love the fans have for him and how much we await his return. We got really happy and excited at just seeing current pictures of him.. We have waited patiently in hope of Guns N' Roses to tour again and bring out Chinese Democracy. Axl Rose and GN'R you have a huge fan-base with much love and respect and you always will. All I'm asking is for you to be aware of this and maybe give us a little information about the status of the band/album. Thank you."

o ok... umm... is that guy [in "fuck your enemy"s avatar] pointing a gun at me? [I respond: "haha yea... this is a threat by the way"]

Dizzy sees something on the computer screen which is what I'm reading these questions off of... he says: "wait... what does that say?" and moves in real close... [I read it off "Ok... so this guy asks... If the Broncos beat the Steelers this weekend they go to the Super Bowl. ?Well... I guess thats more of a statement than a question..."] ?Dizzy laughs... "umm... thanks for reminding me"

What is like sharing the keyboards nowadays with Chris Pittman?

Uhh... you know.. he adds so much to the band. ?He's a good guy to get along with. ?I've never had a problem with him of any kind. ?I'm a team player man... I'm always up for whats best for the whole raw picture. ?on tour.. you know... he just accents what we do so... I'm all for it.

You and Chris wrote the song Silkworms, is that correct?

Umm... it was passed back and forth on our computers. ?[I chime in "computers?"] yea.. you know, we do a lot of work now on computers. ?We pass it back and forth and I had a couple riffs so... yea.

Is that song [Silkworms] expected to be on the album?

No. ?It kind of went away. ?I mean we actually played it a few times live... but... I'm sure it'll up at some point.

What do you miss most from the old Guns N' Roses?

I miss being in my 20s... [I wait like I'm expecting a real answer] [Dizzy smiles:] ... that's what I miss most...

What is your opinion about the new Guns N' Roses?

"I think in a lot of ways its a better band than the old band. the best band... the lineup that we had in 2002 is the best band that I ever played with. [I chime in: "in terms of technical skill?"] skill.. and yea... the whole performance- everything."

Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody. ?Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so. ?I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

Is there a plan for G'n'R to tour again this year? ?I hear rumors you guys might be appearing at Rock in Rio this year... you know... another random rumor.

If the record comes out... I hope we tour.

What is the story behind the 2002 tour abruptly stopping- you know after the Madison Square Garden shows?

Sorry- I can't talk about that.

Are you pursuing a film career? ?Any films in the works? Any in the future?

umm.. I've been delving into a little acting, yes. i hope i do some cool things in the future- that'd be great... so... look for me in movies- yes.

What was the deal with Buckethead departing in March 2004? ?You know... right before Rock in Rio Lisbon.
[Dizzy starts to answer... I interject:] And why does he wear a bucket on his head?

That question I can't answer but the other I can just say its issues, issues, issues... that's it.

I guess this is more of a private question but is Axl in good emotional health to able to tour again?

Yes. Of course he is. Yes. ?[5 sec delay while I look for the next question on fan board] ?Why wouldn't he be?

[as I'm pulling up the next question... Dizzy interjects staring at the computer screen (we're on the mygnr questions thread I created a while back):] Guns N' Donuts! wow- I haven't seen that one.

Have you yourself ever considered leaving Guns N' Roses?

Umm... no. ?Never.

What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]
[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.

Is the current band expected to do covers of the members former bands songs? You know... Replacements, Hookers N Blow, Nine Inch Nails...?

Hookers N Blow is a cover band so that'd be ultimately redundant.. [everyone the room laughs]
Umm.. you know.. I don't think those songs have any place in Guns N' Roses... it'd be weird so... No.






3/4 there!

For all you haters on this thread, just don't post here. ?Leave it to the people who actually believe the story. ? I know this is for real as well, so just give the guy a break and be patient. ?

madagascar88 ?- ?some people just don't believe anything. ?The part about the picture being fake just cracks me up. ?People find anyway they can to not believe something.

Possibly it's something to do with this one?

aha! Yeah, you already told  : ok:

Right on. Looks like that can be put to rest then. Danke schoen.

Don't worry, this is my last post on the thread but you probably never even looked at the pictures. All of them except that one look fine. But, that one with the crown looks completely hideous.

That just doesn't make any sense.  Either they are all fake or none are fake.  But the fraternity wouldn't post 31 real pictures and 1 fake one.  What would be the point of faking one picture when you have plenty of legit ones?

The crown looks fake here too :hihi: . http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/pictures/afterparty06/images/13.jpg

Before you freak out, just chill for a second and read my post. I'm gonna give you the benifit of the doubt, take Sinshine's advice, and say it's really cool that you got to meet and hang out with Dizzy. : ok:

I can see where the photo's look doctored cuz the camera that was used gives off this really weird silhouette/shadow thing, but I realize they prolly aren't cuz there are way to many of them. Now that I've said I think the photos are real I'm gonna go back to the crown, the light from the flash does make it look "funny".

You haven't responded to the aparent message posted by Dizzy's wife:


What parts did you embellish? just the thing about GnR getting back together? Just curious cuz seriously i totally beleived the first part of the interview, but the second part didn't even seem like it was the same interview. Or does Lisa just not know the whole story?

We're all dying for GnR news on here cuz we get so little of it, and if there is the merest shadow of a doubt then you get slammed. I have no idea anymore if this is true or not but until i get hardcore proof it's not then I'm gonna assume that it has a ring of truth to it. I look forward to part three dude :peace:


lastly did you send a copy of the email to Jarmo to confirm it's legit? cuz that would go along way to proove you aren't lying, and what makes you so firmly beleive that the album will be coming out shortly?

Cheers :beer:

Neemo

I think he said nothing of the sort in the suppossedly embellished bit.  ???

Well still that can be related to the "upcoming event" in question.
Maybe some announcement, but not about the release date? ???

 ??? ???

Why?

Are you trying to build up suspense?

Dizzy looks well in the pictures  : ok:

How come Dizzy Reed joined a Frat again?

the stuff about that crown being fake cracks me up... I'm gonna tell Mo (he's one who owns it) that his crown is not photogenic at all!

as for Lisa Reed's comments... I will say this- I personally do not earnest believe I "embellished" anything. ?If anything, I disembellished some stuff as I did not choose to include a lot of the conversations of the more private manner. ?

The 'confidential' section about Slash/Duff is entirely true... in the sense that it was most certainly said to me by Dizzy.  I retracted it before thinking that Dizzy might've been mad at me over it but as that's not the case, I reinstate it... but as it was a more private statement, I chose not to reinclude it into the posted interview.

The first part of the interview is not paraphrased because I just watched video recording and typed it up. This first part was taken from the first 15 minutes of my 30-minute interview with Dizzy.

The second part is taken entirely from the trip to the Pyramid Mall (in Ithaca) for lunch. ?It was a lunchtime conversation and so it was not recorded and is entirely taken from memory but I will say in my defense that I believe I represented everything said at that time in the purest manner.

The third part... which I'll post tonight at some point... is the second half of the 30-minute interview.

and if Jarmo PM's me asking for the email to be forwarded, I most certainly will.

i think she was probably mad at Dizzy making out with girls

He is looking to do what Tommy Lee did at Nebraska  :hihi:

   I don't know Madagascar88, I graduated from Binghamton University, which is pretty close to Cornell, and if my memory is correct, the Cornell chicks weren't that hot.   :hihi:   That's the only suspect part of the story.  ;D
   Seriously, like I've said before, keep up the good work.   : ok:
-Axl4Prez2004   

Okay, I thought about it...maybe Ithaca chicks?  (for those who aren't familiar, almost all "smart" schools like Cornell, have schools close-by where girls that aren't that smart can glom onto a smart, successful student from the "smart" school.  The genius chicks usually aren't as hot as the ones with just above-average intelligence...that's just the U.S., I don't know how it is in other countries...

Now, how about a little Part III action?   :beer:

For what it's worth - i'm going to jump in here and say that Madagascar is not lying about this one - s'all true kids.

Did I just see me an ARC a couple pages back? :D

"making out" is an exaggeration which is why I deleted it from the thread.

it was more like college girls forced themselves on him and put him in an awkward enough position by which he could not refuse.

What's an ARC?

He's a former mygnr member. Sorry for taking it off topic - continue.

Hey A4P...I graduated from Bing too...'99. What year are you?

LOL...small world.

MADDY U A LAIR!

Those pictures are real... I'll give you that.. but that LAST ONE! THE ONE WITH THE CROWN! Totally fake. And because of that.. you must be lying about the interview.

 :hihi: Why would anyone post like 30 real pics and then a photoshopped one?

I've been saying this since the start, don't go bashing someone as a "fake" and flaming him when all signs point to him being right. I find it funny that certain people who called him a liar are now absent from the thread... :hihi: couldn't even apologize to the poor guy. Thanks Maddy for the interview and im looking forward to part 3. JARMO ASK HIM FOR THE EMAIL! Confirm that one =).

    -jack

Part III is up on page 20.




Here's Part III supplemental since it couldn't fit into that post:

What do you think about modern day music?

like all music from... forever... I think 95 percent of its crap, 4 percent of its probably good and 1 percent of its great.  That's how its been for popular music... modern... for all of time.

What do you think of the rock scene though nowadays?

I think the record labels have pretty much squashed any kind of rock scene.  I mean umm... the underground stuff is cool.  The independent stuff is good.. its cool.  It can be by the trunkload- it doesn't have to be for everybody.  Everyone else is too busy being forcefed through the clearchanneling... by MTV and all their shit... and they don't wanna lose money so they just keep forcefeeding you.. like one or two songs and then they throw it away. That's how it is and its unfortunate.

HaHa. Wrong, actually. They have allowed me to be "read only"... Although, of course, it's not under the username "Axl Rose Child"...

Anyway...

Madagascar88 is a very cool guy. He has given me some cool information, which I will not reveal until he allows me to or he reveals it himself...

I will tell you this - IT IS FUCKING AWESOME...! ?:beer:

Thanks for posting Madagascar88.

just so I don't get asked this anymore...

parts I & III are from an interview I did with Dizzy in my room which I videotaped. ?The questions were pulled from chinesedemocracy.com and mygnrforum.com. ?Some would've come from HTGTH but the website was down at the time for whatever reason.

You said at the top of part III that part IV would be coming soon. Is part IV the supplemental bit to part 3 - those 2 questions you already posted. Or is part IV another seperate part. When will this amazing news be revealed like when will it happen/be announed or when will you be able to reveal it.

You rock - thanks.

LOL :hihi: you do that. and is that thing like your frat house mascot or something. I just think its really weird to have a big red furry crown laying about.

Thanks for posting part 3 dude, it was pretty good. Although we are back to the whole "sorry can't talk about that" thing we are so used to reading.

Kinda weird that he never really talks or sees any of the Band, last time they were all together in one place was MSG '02!!??? wow, that's fucked up. I wonder how long they will have to practice together if they decide to tour again? And the line up from 2002 is the best band he ever played with? hmmm, that's a bold statement, I mean i was blown away when i saw them in 2002 and i never got to see gnr in the 80's-90's era so i can't compare, but Slash, Duff and to a lesser extent matt had huge pressence on stage when i saw VR. It's possible that buckethead may be a better technical player but Slash just drew my eyes, he has about as much stage pressence as Axl IMHO.

I hope the answer about Axl's mental stability puts all the discussion about that topic to rest.

And silkworms is still an album possibility??!!! :nervous:

I think Dizzy wouldn't be one to say anything bad about Axl as a performer.

But I guess having a setlist and a more mature frontman made things easier for him in 2001-2002 than they were in the old days.

However, it's easy to see why some fans still prefer the spontaneity and randomness of the old band's performances.

Great interview Maddie88. Fantastic job.

I'm so happy that the band knows these forums are still alive.

The last part was my fav installment.

 ? I for one, can't wait for part IV of the interview trilogy. ? ;D

 ? Madagascar88, thanks for the great stuff. ?CD is coming soon! ?When I buy this album, I may have tears in my eyes. ?I might even have my wife videotape the experience...

 ?Seriously, Maddy88, you should have suggested to Dizzy Taughannock Falls up near Ithaca as a locale for a kick-ass GNR video. ?It has a beautiful "out of this world" feel to it.

 ?Also, the "never all being together since '02" doesn't surprise me one bit. ?Nothing about this interview smacks me as being fake, and I think alot of folks around here may be eating some crow in the coming weeks. ? ;)

 ?

Thank You Madagascar88! ?: ok:

I'm sure most of us appreciate what you're doing. Don't let the ones who don't to put you down.

Where's jamesloften and leesixxrose now?   ;D

That's from Richard's site - it was taken during the European leg of the 2002 tour.

Thanks alot, I can't believe that this event got blown so far out of proportion.

Looking forward to the last installment

Thats for posting this MAD88. Its been a very cool read, and looking forward to seen the rest. Just reading al of it thus far, has my skin getting goosebumps in anticipation of at least something good to come soon.ROck on ! :peace: : ok:

WHERE'S JAMESLOFTON ??????????

James, your posts are usually negative, but for the most part i usually agree with the things you spew.

You really SHIT THE BED in this thread with your ridiculous posts   : ok:

still here.. still reading... i still dont belive all that shit about the VR members wanting to reunite or that he has any "inside info" ... coz i belive that at the end of this week, next week, this month, next month.. when ever there is still going to be no event that give any news to CD release or a tour...

The part where Dizzy says they havent all been in the same room since MSG is just sad to me... what kind of a band is this???

If ya dont like it dont read it man. Simple as that.


 :peace:

Thanks for the tip! :beer:

Which version do you prefer ?

1) Madagascar88 although being a fool didn't lie. Reed's words are true, but unacceptable for any GN'R fan.

2) Madagascar88 did a fake interview. Which implies that is an asshole (sorry Jarmo, I can't find another word for this kind of thing).

How bout the one where were actually grateful for the interview and quit acting like jackasses?

You start.

I will tell you all a few quick things I know. ?It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time, and will until it happens. ?I would bet the house that it will at some point. ?Way, way, way too much money on the line for it not to.

Secondly, why did this college grad, who is no doubt a bright lad, let the whole world know about this? ?No common sense whatsover. ?Just completely blew this for Dizzy. ?And blew his chance for inside info, and priveliged treatment down the road. ?It's one thing to talk about it, but quite another to completely document this whole thing. ?Not bright at all!!

But, for God's sake, what is Dizzy doing at a frat house, knowing that 18 year olds do not have great judgement and will discuss this publically ?(was he really saying all these kinds of things)? ?I know he was maybe trying to be nice, or wanted to revisit his college (wild booze laden, speed driven, orgy) day's again, but this is the kind of stuff that can destroy reputations. ?Not a brilliant move. ?It really makes one question how serious this new band is, or if there really is any current movement towards a release of live dates??? ?If they were getting ready for a release, their publicist would have squashed Dizzy's frat party attendance in one second--or at least told him: ?"no interviews, pictures, or videotaped interviews for sure. ?Dizzy would not have made this kind of a trip if the album was being prepped. ?Really weird, although it could end up being a brilliant PR move in some whacked-out, GNR way???

I think that we could hear some of the new bands' work this year, but I would imagine the next time we see GNR live, it will be the original band, maybe without Dizzy after this weird move.

Who knows, I am just hypothesizing.

Fuck dizzy was probably just out for a fun time, had a cocktail too many and got a little loose lipped because he liked the young lad.

Leave the guy along. its not like dizzy said 'axl likes having anal sex with male midgets dressed up in turtle suits' or anything. he didn't really give that much info at all.

whille entertaining...definitely not something someone would make up or get kicked out of a band for.

Huh? I'm sorry but that is just so wildly imaginative and liberally erroneous, I have to get Chomsky on the phone.

There is going to be no reunion.

There is going to be no Guns n'Roses.

Not without Paul Tobias at the very least.

whatever you say but the one thing i've learned from being a GNR fan is that you never know what is going to happen and i can't wait to see what we've all been waiting for, for so long!!!

Paul Tobias and Dizzy Reed are both very important.

but compared to chris pittman they`re useless....

well... great interview thanks!!!   by the way funny that it got almost as many replies as the "axl speaks" thread   and most of them are just insults or bullshit :hihi:

i believed from start that this guy was telling the truth (well not about every detail, but that he at least spoke to dizzel....) i think it`s impossible to be THAT bored and spend that much time just to fuck over some gnr fans on a message board......if that was the case he really should get a life :hihi:

and about the band not being in a room together since '02..... i guess the question was about the WHOLE band (including axl)...   the other members met for sure. tommy and richard played songs together and i believe there were rehearsals for rio in `04(??)    but in the end it doesn`t matter.....

THat a good point , cause richard played with tommy and dizzy in the span of a week here in NY , lil over a yr ago.

What makes me suspect this interview may not be legit other than in part 2 the whole confidential information thing & holding out on the supposed BIG announcement......

If you are paraphrasing it instead of word for word ( which if the interview actally happened can mis interpret what Dizzy actually said) Dizzy's interjections were quoted ( uhhh, hmmmm, etc.)

Im not calling Madagascar88 a liar, just pointing out stuff which makes me suspect this could be a fabrication. I wasnt there so I cant say with certainty.

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.  : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?   "Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.   A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.  Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.  It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.  You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.  Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.  To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.  But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).  Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.  I think the album maybe released, with no tour.  The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.

But doesn't the record company/management, etc make far more in profit from touring than from album sales? Is the album not just a 'hook' to get people to buy concert tickets?

What I'm saying is, would that fly nowadays, as it did in the days of the Beatles?

na, i think the band gets all the cash from the touring...

management makes money from touring! I don't know about the record company but management certainly does. Axl doesn't book the gigs and negotiate the rates by himself.

i don`t think the record company makes money out of the concerts.   but well...i don`t know shit :hihi:

Its not going to happen. Slash already said he would not reunite with Axl right now. So stop with this, its just not going to happen.

when did he said that?

and what do you think would happen if axl`d actually ask? :hihi:   i`m not saying he would do it then.....but he`d definitely think about it....

Please Dave, and some others, read the full post before making an untruthful response. ?I am not implying a reuninon is IMMINENT. ?I am saying, that at some point in the next ten years, it most likely will happen. ?Some of you need to read the full posts, before making your pre-conceived comments. ?It is really frustrating, and the lack of rational thinking drives away those who will provide valid insight into Chinese Democracy, and the current band. ?Please, try to comprehend, use logic, avoid insults, and think before throwing out rabid posts full of nothing but garrulous non-sense. ?There are people who read this board, willing to share information, but will not because of the irrational nature of many that post here. ?It is a very small minority of posters (and Dave, I replied to your post, but am not referring to you in particular), but after reading some of these threads, it is quite apparent that their are some fairly quad-polar morons who are more than likely missing some neurological pathways. ?I am not necessarily endorsing labotomies, but maybe a few reading comprehension courses and lithium orotate would help:) ;) :) : ok:

I want to clarify again: ?I am not saying there will be any kind of near term reunion, but at some point in the future I would imagine it is a likelihood. : ok:

Peace, and TGIF!!

You said the next time gnr play live it will be with the old band minus Dizzy, so what did you mean by that?

i don`t think that the next gnr show will include skash and duff, but it`s even mor unrealistic that itwill happen wihtout dizzy then i think.....

Read please, that is not what I said.  Here is exactly, verbatim what I said (note the definition of "hypothesizing.")  Go back to my original post if you want to confirm.  This is my last post, clarifying what I said.  I would really recomend utilizing objectivity, and attempting not to take things out of context in the future.  It will ensure that those on the inside will be more confident in giving some advanced info to the GNR fans at this site.

"I think that we could hear some of the new bands' work this year, but I would imagine the next time we see GNR live, it will be the original band, maybe without Dizzy after this weird move.

Who knows, I am just hypothesizing."

I said I would never post in this thread again but I lied.

I just want to say sorry to madagascar88 for doubting him and especially the PM I sent you. I am sorry. I am not saying I believe every single thing you post but I do now believe you are legit...

Your interview and (30 of 31 pictures) are very interesting to look into and I'm sure everybody will agree, we're interesting in the 4th installment.

By the way, did anybody notice that Dizzy Reed looks kinda like a vampire? He looks like he's thristy for blood...

I want to also say this:  I recant on my earlier post saying this was a bad move by Dizzy.  I actually think this is super, super cool after viewing those pictures.  He made those guy's year, and they will have this pledge to remember the rest of their lives.  It is very cool to see them, also, getting to jam with him!! 

The only thing that disturbed me, was the lack of common sense, when quoting Dizzy.  I think, basically, that an eighteen year old kid made a judgement mistake, but no harm no foul.  I think Dizzy, also, is handling this fine. 

Madagascar88, that was pretty groovy to get the Dizzmaster to play at your house.  Best of wishes to all.

I still think there will be a reunion in the next ten years (I think, don't know for sure, no sources--Hypothetically speaking), with Dizzy involved.  Now that the smoke has cleared a little, this whole deal looks a little more harmless.

I love the fact that Dizzy went out to see these kid's, pretty cool!!

Wow! Great answers. Ta, M88! :D


Jolly good!

Ok....photoshopping 36 pics would be very difficult! Diddn't mean to give you a hard time Madagascar88. Just wasn't your best move to paraphrase thinks and embellish where there was no need to. You even got Lisa Reed's attention with the interview! Looking forward to part 4.

I hope Journalism is not your major  :hihi:

Here is your big Sanctuary event.  I wonder if it's related to anything guns, or everybody getting their severance package and walking papers.

http://www.velvetrope.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=735671&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=2&fpart=1

I wish Journalism was the major of many rock writers.  :hihi:

I think it was Frank Zappa who said :

"Rock journalism is about people who can't speak, written by people who can't write, for people who can't read" or something similar..  ;)

I can't believe that noone has commented this part:


If it's true than someone missed the Philly riot...

Not only that, but Dizzy says Axl is mentally stable to tour, but admits that he doesn't hang out with anyone but the members of H&B

So how can Dizzy make that deduction about Axl if he hasn't even seen him? ???

Maybe not all band members were in Philadelphia....



/jarmo

That's what I was talking about. Maybe the 'ill' bandmember failed to arrive...

you don't have to hang out with someone on a daily basis to know how they are doing. I go weeks without seeing my best  friends but still talk to them inbetween and know if they are healthy or not

yeah   pretty safe to say   axl wasn`t there :hihi:

I think it's common knowledge now that Axl didn't show.............for whatever reason.

Part IV

There are rumors that Shaq- Shaquille O'Neal rapped on the album at Axl's request.

I don't know if anything's happened since... but I jammed with Shaq.  At one point I was down at this rehearsal... this rehearsal place in Santa Monica writing songs with Paul [Tobias].  And my friend Syd was playing drums- just drumming for us.  We were basically just writing and recording stuff- writing and recording constantly, just basically waiting for everyone else to basically show up. And there are these satellite recording studios around that soundstage and they do a lot of commercials and back when Shaq was still with the Orlando Magic- he was doing a Taco Bell commercial next door so he heard that we were next door so he wanted to come say hi... but there like the only one there is Dizzy so he says 'well, I'll say hi to Dizzy' so the door opens and this gigantic man comes in and I'm like 'who the hell's that?' and he's like 'hey dizzy!' and he's getting closer and closer and bigger and bigger- I realize its fuckin' Shaquille O'Neal. Holy shit.  So.. we talked for a little bit and then he asked me to play my keyboard and I said 'sure' and he sat down and disintegrated my stool... smashed it into little pieces [everyone laughs]... granted shaking Shaq's hand is like shaking a frying pan [I ask what that means] ... well.. I mean its so big [Dizzy shows how difficult it would be to shake a frying pan] Anyway, so he breaks my stool into little pieces and he looks at me and goes 'man, I broke Guns N' Roses' stool.' And I say 'yea, we'll send you a bill for that later' and he doesn't say anything and so I'm like "just kidding..." And so we got him another stool and he sits down and starts playing this... polysynth [?] sound... this riff on my keyboards... and it was really cool.  And so... I look over at the drummer and motion for him to.. you know... get a hiphop beat going... and Syd goes into this groove... and Shaq started vibin' on it and Paul started playing guitar... and Shaq looks over at me... and like this magic thing happened- he says 'take over' and so I watch what he's playing and I sat down and started playing it. And he got this groove- this vibe going and he and his buddies grabbed the mic and started doing this rap.  And our engineer Tommy was rolling tape the entire time... so... and I mean it was really cool... I mean the time he was just joking around and they started dancing and they danced their way out of the studio and we kept playing the beat 'cause it was cool and they came back in, sort of like an encore, and did some more stuff. like Shaq started doing the worm- I mean if you've ever seen a 7 foot... 300 pound guy do the worm... its the most amazing thing.  And they bailed.  It was the most amazing thing. And I mean I don't know if anything's happened since then but that's probably where that story comes from.

Ok, speaking of guest musicians, there are also rumors that Brian May, lead guitarist of Queen, was asked to play some guitar on some of the songs for Chinese Democracy and was afterwards also given an invitation by Axl Rose to join the band as lead guitarist?

I'm not sure about the latter part but yes, Brian did come by and play a couple songs.

There was a cover a while back... I mean, this question can't really describe it very well but... [Dizzy chimes in: "the bicycle?"] ... yea... the bicycle and its in China... is that...?

at one point, that was going to be the cover of the record- I'm not sure if it's now.  This one guy... he was my keyboard tech at the time... Michael... and I mean he was in China at the time and he saw that and took a picture and showed it to Axl.

Why has Axl's voice changed so much between the Use Your Illusion tours and the 2001/2002 tours?

I don't think he has personally.  I think he still sounds like Axl still.  I think that its better... stronger... he's not having to compete with amps that are thousand [?..] so... that makes it easier, heh.

Does Axl treat you- you being yourself and the rest of the band, as bandmates or employees?

you know- Axl is very much into having a band. and he's one of the fairest, coolest, nicest guys that I've ever met... and that's just a fact.  And I mean he treats us as band members but at the same time with any situation like that... there's always one person that's more important and you know is in charge and you have to know whose in charge. In every band, in every successful band, has a leader... he's the leader.

Going back to that then, is the album more of a collaborative effort or is it the Axl Rose show?

No, it's collaborative, yes. [Dizzy says this with conviction- responding immediately]

[something on the screen, one of the avatar's on the mygnrforum catches Dizzy's eye again- he stares at it a second and says: "what is that?" ... its an avatar that depicts the members of the new-GnR... he looks through it... "well... there's Tommy, Brain, Richard, me..." - I ask him "well... this is the band so obviously one of these guys is Chris Pittman." Dizzy answers: "but its not. and there's no Robin unless thats Robin with a mustache."  I ask him "is that one of the pictures you took when you were doing some modeling?" Dizzy answers "yea."

In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]

Would you be willing to talk about the tracklisting on the album?  Not in terms of the actual material but your opinion of the individual songs?

yea... but the thing is that I haven't heard of it in so long that... I don't know what changes its going through- what's happening.  I'm not even sure what they're called [Dizzy laughs]



Dizzy at this point asks for a piss break which I took as sign he didn't want any more questions.  Respecting the fact that I had been basically drilling him for almost an hour now- I call off the interview and we go out to the bars.

hi there thanks for this interview pretty cool when will you be postin part 4. So what was dizzy like as i person was he cool and relaxed did he have the rock star persona to him and would you rate it as one of the coolest things youve done. Thanks again for doing this 

part IV posted above.

So he's basically saying Axl's reserving his voice because he doesn't have to scream, as opposed to the past when he did.

Interesting.

Thanks again Madagascar88!

 :beer:

the shaq thing was hilarious.. I cant imaging doin the  worm!  :hihi:

Well, i'll apoloze for my earlier disparagement of the interview, as i think you've more than given enough proof of its validity. I really like the part where he trashes the old hair band duded and steven (and given whats happened with AA, it almost seems prophetic). It is a little disheartening that it seems he doesnt know much about whats going on with the record at the present time-but i guess it's not surprising either. we're all waiting on mr. rose now. thanks again. : ok:

I know I said I wasn't gonna post in this thread anymore, but there is obvious contradictions in this new part of the interview. But thats all I'm gonna say. I'll let you guys figure it out for yourselves, or you can just keep raising this guy even higher on a pedestal.