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Title: Dizzy Reed at Cornell Interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 12:40:10 AM
Part I (part II is on page 5, part III is on page 20, part IV is on page 24)

Dizzy Reed came to Cornell this past weekend to pledge Zeta Psi Fraternity as an honorary brother.  In the chaos, we managed to conduct a 30-minute Q&A. Here are the responses to questions prepared by members on GNR forums.

What is the status on Chinese Democracy?

"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."

(but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway)

What is up with Slash giving the release date on CD as March 2006?

"Slash did? Well... he didn't get that information from me. But umm... hey that's exciting."

What are your views/opinions on Velvet Revolver?

"I think that their t-shirts are cool."

What are your thoughts on the Da Vinci Code soundtrack rumor that there will be a G'n'R track on it?

"I don't know anything about it."

Is there a finalized tracklist? I heard that there will be 32 songs of which 26 are complete...?

"Well... I actually thought that there are more... but if Axl says there are 32 then I guess. But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material. There's a lot. There's at least three dozen. There's a shitload of stuff. We've actually been doing stuff... we haven't been sittin' around. There really is a lot of stuff."

What would you say is the general sound of the album?

"Sound. You know... the thing about it is that there are so many different areas and the other thing is that through time guys have come and gone that as different members of the band- everyone brought 2 or 3 songs such that there are multiple musical genres and situtations. Umm.. it's kind of a smorgasbord. Everyone works on it and when Axl sings on it- it's magical. So... there's gonna be a little something for everybody on it. It mixes rock with all that modern... rock elements... to do this."

Do you think the record will appeal to fans? The sound that is.

"You can't please everybody. The quality of the songs goes a long ways. If you can play the song on the piano or just on a lone guitar and it still sounds great- then the song stands out on its own. All the songs are like that so I think the songs will carry the record. You know what? There are probably already a million people who have their minds made up that there gonna hate the album. You know- fuck those people. They probably will buy it... who knows? And I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised too. Or you know... maybe noone will buy it- you know? You can't predict the future. It's the tunnel theory of ever-changing things- you never know."

What do you think is the reason for the delay in the album release?

"You know... there is no primary reason... its really a variety of reasons. Umm.. there's just absolutely no one thing. I'm certainly not gonna go say that its all because Axl's a perfectionist or you know... things are just always coming and going... and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Axl and the rest of us will put the best thing out."

Obviously, Geffen is getting a little impatient... they did release the Greatest Hits album in order to entice you guys to release the album...

"Well... at this point I don't even know... I don't really deal on the business end of things. They'll just have to wait like everybody else."

How long have you actually known Axl Rose?

"Umm... I'm trying to remember... I'd say 20 years... we met in Hollywood when I first moved there and... he just liked the way I played the piano. At the time, in the 80s, most of the keyboard players that were playing at the time were kind of classically-trained and you know... they were good but they would not have fitted in with Guns N' Roses songs. And I think he realized that I would be able to play and add something that would raise the songs."

Apparently... Axl dedicated 'Nightrain' to 'Dizzy and his band' way back in 1986.. was that you?

"Yea... I think they just signed a deal with Live like a suicide and were touring and wanted to add a keyboard player too. And my band- we were doing a little tour then around the southwest and I broke my hand in a car accident... so around that time... because nightrain was my favorite G'n'R song at the time... Axl dedicated the song to me at that concert."




I'll post the rest later...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 01:04:56 AM
Like I said at the 'other' forum, you asked some really great questions. The questions are the best part of the interview. His answers leave way too much to the imagination. Someone needs to ask Dizzy point blank if he is still a member of Guns N Roses, because with these new answers that give new meaning to the word vague, I'm starting to wonder if Axl didn't fire him, and he just hasn't found out yet.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: SLCPUNK on January 24, 2006, 01:08:25 AM
Bah........I want to get excited about all this.

I just can't............


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 24, 2006, 01:42:22 AM
What is the status on Chinese Democracy?

"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."

(but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway)

What is up with Slash giving the release date on CD as March 2006?

"Slash did? Well... he didn't get that information from me. But umm... hey that's exciting."

 :rofl:

The closest person to Axl is Dizzy!

BTW really great question! Dizzy seems to be disappointed...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 24, 2006, 02:18:44 AM
Cool questions.

Can't believe Dizzy doesn't know whats going on though. Insane.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 24, 2006, 02:22:10 AM
Cool questions.

Can't believe Dizzy doesn't know whats going on though. Insane.

Not really - like Axl said, the majority of the recording was done back in 2001-2002.

The rest of the band only works for Guns N' Roses when called upon, which obviously doesn't happen often.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 24, 2006, 02:34:55 AM
What is the status on Chinese Democracy?

"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."

(but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway)

You are now obligated to tell us what that thing is.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 02:55:35 AM
What is the status on Chinese Democracy?

"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."

(but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway)

You are now obligated to tell us what that thing is.
I thought that was strange also, how he would leave us hanging with that "there's one thing coming up" line. Its like he needs time to think about what this one thing is. I'm gonna freak if this is another fake, because it paints a bleak picture of the current status of the band, and its the last thing we needed to hear since the optimism of the recent Axl comments.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Grouse on January 24, 2006, 02:57:28 AM
all the band members really seem to so clueless as to what is going with the band  :-\


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 24, 2006, 04:09:55 AM
Thanks for the interview and for posting it here.

You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking  :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 04:23:48 AM
Its been pretty clear for a long time that this is no 'conventional' band arrangment.

These guys have been leased basically, for a period of time to record music of which Axl sifts through the parts he likes and then builds song fragments from.

So when Axl says it's ready to go, or ready to release, these guys will be just as surprised as the rest of us.

The worrying thing is, they're going to need to practise as a band because in all fairness, the musical arrangments are probably as foreign to them as they are to us.

Nothing new here - I agree though, nice to see some more specific questions concerning things people are actually interested in


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 24, 2006, 04:29:32 AM
You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking? :P

I think we should lock both Madagascar88 and Madison from MyGNR in a room.

I can imagine the conversation:

Madagascar88: So, what did Axl tell you?
Madison: In 2002 he told me the title of the first Chinese Democracy single
Madagascar88: Cool, Dizzy told me something big that's going to happen with the band in 2006
Madison: Awesome, what's that?
Madagascar88: You go first
Madison: No really, I insist
Madagascar88: Only after you tell me the name of the single
Madison: .....
Madagascar88: .....

!!!!!!!!HEADS EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 04:41:27 AM
Its been pretty clear for a long time that this is no 'convential' band arrangment.

These guys have been leased basically, for a period of time to record music of which Axl sifts through the parts he likes and then builds song fragments from.

So when Axl says it's ready to go, or ready to release, these guys will be just as surprised as the rest of us.

The worrying thing is, they're going to need to practise as a band because in all fairness, the musical arrangments are probably as foreign to them as they are to us.

Nothing new here - I agree though, nice to see some more specific questions concerning things people are actually interested in
I agree with what you're saying, but if this logic is true, then CD isn't close to being ready. If there was an imminent release coming this year, you would think the other band members would have heard something. There should at least have been photo shoots, a few rehearsals, etc., just to get the ball rolling. I know that the band members aren't going to tell us even if something's about to happen, but Dizzy really seems like he's totally clueless as to what's going on. If he were hiding something that he didn't want us to know about, he would have answered those questions differently. I'm still surprised no one ever asks these guys what their favorite song on the album is. There answer might be as revealing as any other info we might get. Also, as I mentioned in my post earlier, someone needs to ask him if he can confirm he's still a member of the band. He gives off a strange vibe in this interview.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 04:44:57 AM
Its been pretty clear for a long time that this is no 'convential' band arrangment.

These guys have been leased basically, for a period of time to record music of which Axl sifts through the parts he likes and then builds song fragments from.

So when Axl says it's ready to go, or ready to release, these guys will be just as surprised as the rest of us.

The worrying thing is, they're going to need to practise as a band because in all fairness, the musical arrangments are probably as foreign to them as they are to us.

Nothing new here - I agree though, nice to see some more specific questions concerning things people are actually interested in
I agree with what you're saying, but if this logic is true, then CD isn't close to being ready. If there was an imminent release coming this year, you would think the other band members would have heard something. There should at least have been photo shoots, a few rehearsals, etc., just to get the ball rolling. I know that the band members aren't going to tell us even if something's about to happen, but Dizzy really seems like he's totally clueless as to what's going on. If he were hiding something that he didn't want us to know about, he would have answered those questions differently. I'm still surprised no one ever asks these guys what their favorite song on the album is. There answer might be as revealing as any other info we might get. Also, as I mentioned in my post earlier, someone needs to ask him if he can confirm he's still a member of the band. He gives off a strange vibe in this interview.

do you think there will be band photo's/videos?

The whole 'mysterious' image that Axl has shrouded this project in could well lend itself to a more 'faceless' type approach ala Tool

just a thought...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 04:46:23 AM
Its been pretty clear for a long time that this is no 'convential' band arrangment.

These guys have been leased basically, for a period of time to record music of which Axl sifts through the parts he likes and then builds song fragments from.

So when Axl says it's ready to go, or ready to release, these guys will be just as surprised as the rest of us.

The worrying thing is, they're going to need to practise as a band because in all fairness, the musical arrangments are probably as foreign to them as they are to us.

Nothing new here - I agree though, nice to see some more specific questions concerning things people are actually interested in
I agree with what you're saying, but if this logic is true, then CD isn't close to being ready. If there was an imminent release coming this year, you would think the other band members would have heard something. There should at least have been photo shoots, a few rehearsals, etc., just to get the ball rolling. I know that the band members aren't going to tell us even if something's about to happen, but Dizzy really seems like he's totally clueless as to what's going on. If he were hiding something that he didn't want us to know about, he would have answered those questions differently. I'm still surprised no one ever asks these guys what their favorite song on the album is. There answer might be as revealing as any other info we might get. Also, as I mentioned in my post earlier, someone needs to ask him if he can confirm he's still a member of the band. He gives off a strange vibe in this interview.

what specifically makes you think he might not be in the band James?
I'm interested to know what  gives you the strange vibe here as I didn't pick up on it?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 05:09:13 AM



"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."


 Well... he didn't get that information from me. But umm... hey that's exciting."


"I don't know anything about it."


"Well... I actually thought that there are more... but if Axl says there are 32 then I guess. But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material. There's a lot. There's at least three dozen. There's a shitload of stuff. We've actually been doing stuff... we haven't been sittin' around. There really is a lot of stuff."

 It mixes rock with all that modern... rock elements... to do this."

"You know... there is no primary reason... its really a variety of reasons. Umm.. there's just absolutely no one thing.

there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Axl and the rest of us will put the best thing out."

"Well... at this point I don't even know... I don't really deal on the business end of things. They'll just have to wait like everybody else."


Jimmy, this doesn't sound like a guy who is even remotely close to being on the inside. These answers are disturbing. Mysteron probably has closer ties to the band than Dizzy. His statements regarding the amount of songs is pathetic. Its like he doesn't know what to believe himself. The reason I wonder if he's still in GNR is his zero knowledge on whats going on. If he is indeed still in the band, then Axl needs to put him on a short and tight leash, because his "interviews" paint a pretty bleak picture of the situation.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 05:11:43 AM
True, but hasnt that always been the case?
This is the same rhetoric we've been hearing for years - I dont think all of a sudden Axls going to involve them in the decision making

theyre on call, when he says its ready, they'll jump to attention

Mysteron?

Johan?  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 05:19:41 AM
Something else odd about it was how he didn't use the word "soon" every few seconds, and he got excited when Slash said march. :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 05:21:16 AM
Something else odd about it was how he didn't use the word "soon" every few seconds, and he got excited when Slash said march. :hihi:


haha true, that is ludicrous to think that Slash would know more than him

Perhaps Dizzy posts here to discuss rumours and see whats going down  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 05:36:04 AM
Perhaps Dizzy posts here to discuss rumours and see whats going down? :hihi:
The Jameslofton29 is Dizzy Reed rumour starts now! :hihi:

Seriously though, what you said earlier about there possibly being no reason for these guys to be involved is a definite possiblity. If Axl has no interest in really promoting the record and just letting the album speak for itself, then there is no reason for these guys to be involved anymore since there services are basically no longer required. Maybe there wont be any band photos in CD, or posters, tshirts, etc. If the majority of the music is actually done, and Axl has no desire to perform on tv shows promoting it or has no desire to tour, then in essence it is no longer a band and it would probably dissolve right after a CD release.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 05:44:07 AM
interesting scenario, after CD, reunion perhaps?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jazjme on January 24, 2006, 05:52:29 AM
no , that I dont see, just doesnt add up, wouldnt fit with in at  least my mind, or mayb a lot of others. If your gonna go through all the length , time, blood sweat and tear, to create this new vision, I seriousy doubt that after its release he will be ok...were finished now move on heres your pay.beta get slash on the line.......lol, doesnt seem realistic nor what more like will be the case.

Im confident Axl and tommy and robin, and richard, robin , brain, and dizzy, will, embark o this new phase, in the end it wil come down to how successfull will it be, if all goes well, they it will continue, , it will come down to how CD does.

AS Dizzy said, something for everyone, bottom line will determine.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 24, 2006, 06:45:54 AM
jameslofton you are right that the answers obviusly indicate he knows nothing.. he even admits.. no more than us. We (not me personally, board members here) critisize the band members when they try and get our hopes up so we can't complain that Dizzy is being honest.

I think we got past the 'disturbing' (as you put it) stage a long time ago. Everyone knows by now that Axl is working on their project now.. the guys have done their parts.. now it's up to Axl. He will call them all when he is ready and until then the band do their own thing.. that's the way it works. Works for Axl... the band have no complaints.. they'll wait and do their own thing until they are given the call. That's the way this band works, so we just have to accept it and wait  ;)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 06:49:28 AM
after CD, reunion perhaps?
I doubt it. He'll probably hibernate again, or maybe release already finished material. Or maybe do some writing, with the strange life he's had I've always wondered why he never wrote a book or two.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 24, 2006, 07:15:10 AM
CD is a team effort, for sure, Dizzy's interview proves that. I'm afraid nobody's involved in this project, not even Axl. I think 'You will hear music this year' meant that Axl will leak the first 17 seconds of IRS. Ridiculous.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 08:17:25 AM
CD is a team effort, for sure, Dizzy's interview proves that. I'm afraid nobody's involved in this project, not even Axl. I think 'You will hear music this year' meant that Axl will leak the first 17 seconds of IRS. Ridiculous.
Finally, someone else sees the absurdity of what came flying out of Dizzy's mouth. I cant wait to see the rest of this so called "interview". I knew the high from Axl's recent comments wouldnt last long. Dizzy had to bring the CD saga back down to reality.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 24, 2006, 08:20:40 AM
Man you are so quick to jump on the bandwagon. How excited did you get about Axl's pics and interview?

I don't mean this as a personal attack or anything dude. I enjoy your contributions to the board. It's just you and a few others constantly put downers on the whole thing, get excited and suddenly all positive when Axl appears.. then bingo.. look at these comments.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 08:42:55 AM
Man you are so quick to jump on the bandwagon. How excited did you get about Axl's pics and interview?

I don't mean this as a personal attack of anything dude. I enjoy your contributions to the board. It's just you and a few others constantly put downers on the whole thing, get excited and suddenly all positive when Axl appears.. then bingo.. look at these comments.
What bandwagon? I was the first person to mention the absurdity of the interview. I dont jump on bandwagons, I just ride the wave. Its not my fault when Dizzy occasionally makes this whole thing seem like a joke, so aim your criticism towards him, not me. Yeah, I was positive about the recent Axl comments, because it was something to be positive about.  But you're mistaken if you think I was one of the prom night virgins salivating over those pics. Me and a few others dont "constantly put downers" on the whole thing. The current members take care of that job themselves.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Origen on January 24, 2006, 09:05:03 AM
Axl announced song titles for CD in 1999, we're now in 2006 and someone who has been in the band for over 15 years says "I know what you guys know. " what confidence.


but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway

Rock in Rio ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on January 24, 2006, 09:23:12 AM
i havnt read all the posts in this topic but i personally think all the band members know a lot more than their letting on to.every time one of them is interviewed they all give the same answers so its obvious thats what their told to say.
 plus when chin dem drops im sure we,ll see the band together touring and stuff (tshirts,band photos,interviews on telly and in mags jus like the old days).the only reason we feel there wont actually be a band after cd is released is coz we havnt seen much of them together over the years and coz they all got their own projects.but when cd drops,i bet they will all be together planning the next couple o years together.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 24, 2006, 09:38:25 AM
"and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. "

Ladies and gentleman, there is the only important line in the interview. You guys have to realize that Axl doesn't need this project to survive and live well. I actually think it has become a leisure type thing for him. He will finish it when HE is ready-nobodies pushing hard enough and Axl certainly doesn't need the money. There is no "hunger" on Axl's part like there is with the rest of the members-they want to make it and be successful on a monetary level. Unfortunately, Axl calls ALL the shots. Period. He will tell them when the release date is when HE decides on it. It is HIS album. As Tommy said in his most recent interview, the album will come out according to "someone else's plan"-in other words Axl. HIS plan-HIS songs he decides to put vocals over-HIS money is going in to the project-HIS reputation is at stake. That is just the simple fact of the matter. If you want to believe that this is a tight knit group of bandmembers who sit around every weekend shooting pool and drinking beer-go right ahead-you are wrong. They are hired musicians-period. When they release a record and hit the road, things will change and they will get a little bit of that "band" concept back. But, for now, they were hired musicians who got paid for the work they did. :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 09:55:48 AM
Quote
Is there a finalized tracklist? I heard that there will be 32 songs of which 26 are complete...?

"Well... I actually thought that there are more... but if Axl says there are 32 then I guess. But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material. There's a lot. There's at least three dozen. There's a shitload of stuff. We've actually been doing stuff... we haven't been sittin' around. There really is a lot of stuff."

What Axl actually said was that there are 32 songs they are working on. That doesn't necessarily mean these are all they got and there may well be songs they are not working on at the moment. And from this dizzy's comment, there are, I assume.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: babydolls on January 24, 2006, 10:15:15 AM
i havnt read all the posts in this topic but i personally think all the band members know a lot more than their letting on to.every time one of them is interviewed they all give the same answers so its obvious thats what their told to say.
 plus when chin dem drops im sure we,ll see the band together touring and stuff (tshirts,band photos,interviews on telly and in mags jus like the old days).the only reason we feel there wont actually be a band after cd is released is coz we havnt seen much of them together over the years and coz they all got their own projects.but when cd drops,i bet they will all be together planning the next couple o years together.

I agree with you Mr W,  I have to say i dont get excited until I see Axl has said something - as all the band members are all reading from a different page.  not that they cant speak for themselves - but I dont think axl would want any one of them, even the hallowed Dizzy, to name-drop exact numbers of songs, titles, plausible tour dates - release dates etc.  This is Axl's baby and no-one else's.  And as noted above, exactly - there havent been m/any official press shots of the new band (esp since Bucketbreath's departure) so it's understandable that people find it hard to relate to gn'r as a band or use band member's statements as gospel.  They arent lying - just picking their words carefully.   Am not sure that dizzy et all will be giving us anything accurate and detailed unless Axl has "spoken" again!   :smoking:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on January 24, 2006, 10:18:33 AM
i havnt read all the posts in this topic but i personally think all the band members know a lot more than their letting on to.every time one of them is interviewed they all give the same answers so its obvious thats what their told to say.
 plus when chin dem drops im sure we,ll see the band together touring and stuff (tshirts,band photos,interviews on telly and in mags jus like the old days).the only reason we feel there wont actually be a band after cd is released is coz we havnt seen much of them together over the years and coz they all got their own projects.but when cd drops,i bet they will all be together planning the next couple o years together.

I agree with you Mr W,? I have to say i dont get excited until I see Axl has said something - as all the band members are all reading from a different page.? not that they cant speak for themselves - but I dont think axl would want any one of them, even the hallowed Dizzy, to name-drop exact numbers of songs, titles, plausible tour dates - release dates etc.? This is Axl's baby and no-one else's.? And as noted above, exactly - there havent been m/any official press shots of the new band (esp since Bucketbreath's departure) so it's understandable that people find it hard to relate to gn'r as a band or use band member's statements as gospel.? They arent lying - just picking their words carefully.? ?Am not sure that dizzy et all will be giving us anything accurate and detailed unless Axl has "spoken" again!? ?:smoking:
exactly babydolls,this is axls baby and noone is gonna deliver it other than daddy axl  :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 10:23:29 AM
the thing that gets me is. everyone says

"oh it's so great everyone has input and it is a band cuz everyone helped"

well tell me this, how come nobody knows shit about shit and all the band members are scattered about the world doing their own thing while Axl finishes the record?

IMHO It's Axl's project, will always will be Axl's project and Tommy, Robin, Brain, Richard, Dizzy, Pittman & whoever else in the "Band" are frogs and they Jump when Axl says so. For fuck sakes richard left his newborn to record more stuff for Axl. what more proof do you need?

They should name the band Axl and the Jobbers. I said a while ago that the reason for the "delay" is that Axl has no one to push him to release anything and low and behold Dizzy comes out with the most significant thing he's ever said about the current incarnation of GnR

What do you think is the reason for the delay in the album release?

"You know... there is no primary reason... its really a variety of reasons. Umm.. there's just absolutely no one thing. I'm certainly not gonna go say that its all because Axl's a perfectionist or you know... things are just always coming and going... and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Axl and the rest of us will put the best thing out."

what he's really thinking IMO, "Umm....fuck i don't really wanna answer this, so I'm certainly not gonna go say that its all because Axl's a perfectionist or you know cuz he is things are just always coming and going like band members and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Cuz everyone is too scared to say shit after Izzy left, Matt was fired, Slash Quit and Duff left. Axl and the rest of us haha only axl really (cuz i already said i don't know shit about the album) will put the best thing out


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on January 24, 2006, 10:30:02 AM
your right,it is axls project but he couldnt do it alone,there is still a band and when the time comes and they are on the road or telly etc,you will realise that for this thing to work,it would need axls final word.and everyone except axl has been told,"keep your mouth shut until the time is right".


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 10:39:04 AM
your right,it is axls project but he couldnt do it alone,there is still a band and when the time comes and they are on the road or telly etc,you will realise that for this thing to work,it would need axls final word.and everyone except axl has been told,"keep your mouth shut until the time is right".

My freind, that is a definition of a yes-man. A pawn. "Your say is important when i say it is"

No. A rock band is a group of people who record an album and see it through till the end. People that will say "what the fuck are you on about? don't do that it sounds like shit" or "cool groove lets keep it but tweak the bass drum" or "how does this sound?" that is a band.

Not "hmmm, you know just as much as me about the new record" or "I'm not sure what the songs sound like now but they were cool the last time i heard them"

those are statements of a person who has a job and the boss hasn't let them know the whole story. A band doesn't have a boss it is a collaboration


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 11:18:37 AM
great interview, can't wait for the rest! thanks alot!

Hey C, did you go and see Dizzy?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: GnFnR87 on January 24, 2006, 11:33:57 AM
this is really starting to piss me off, first of all

does anyone remember a recent interview with dizzy, maybe last year, when he was like "YEAHH!! ITS COMING SOONER THAN U THINK!!! ITS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER!!! HOLD ON!!! "  or some shit, and now hes like, "oh..well if slash says its coming out in march, i'm excited.." i mean  WTF????


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 11:36:46 AM
and now hes like, "oh..well if slash says its coming out in march, i'm excited.." i mean? WTF????

I think Dizzy was using a little something subtle called sarcasm. ::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 11:39:48 AM
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I think Dizzy was using a little something subtle called sarcasm.

pretty obvious. :hihi: You know what richard said.

your right,it is axls project but he couldnt do it alone,there is still a band and when the time comes and they are on the road or telly etc,you will realise that for this thing to work,it would need axls final word.and everyone except axl has been told,"keep your mouth shut until the time is right".

My freind, that is a definition of a yes-man. A pawn. "Your say is important when i say it is"

No. A rock band is a group of people who record an album and see it through till the end. People that will say "what the fuck are you on about? don't do that it sounds like shit" or "cool groove lets keep it but tweak the bass drum" or "how does this sound?" that is a band.

Not "hmmm, you know just as much as me about the new record" or "I'm not sure what the songs sound like now but they were cool the last time i heard them"

those are statements of a person who has a job and the boss hasn't let them know the whole story. A band doesn't have a boss it is a collaboration

That's true neemo. A Band works its best when it's democratic.

I believe they are when it comes to the music. and it is the leader's responsibility to bring them together and to deal with other things.
Still we don't know a shit about it. As they don't talk everything.

To be honest the idea of "Axl's solo project" sorta put me off.  :-\



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 11:49:47 AM
That's true neemo. A Band works its best when it's democratic.

I believe they are when it comes to the music. and it is the leader's responsibility to bring them together and to deal with other things.
Still we don't know a shit about it. As they don't talk everything.

To be honest the idea of "Axl's solo project" sorta put me off.? :-\

That's the thing that gets me most frustrated is that we get down to a point like this where we have specific questions about GnR and Chinese Democracy and the way the questions always get answered it's like they beat around the bush about it. contradicting themselves and giving us elaborate "maybe's" and "soon's" but never really answering the questions.

To tell you the truth I'd rather them all just deny any C.D. questions than spewing bullshit.

The way Madagascar88 typed the interview so far gives me the impression that Dizzy's either;
a/) thinking very carefully about the answers he gives so he doesn't reveal too much
or
b/) trying to come up with a lie that makes it look like he knows what he's talking about when he really doesn't


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 12:21:25 PM
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The way Madagascar88 typed the interview so far gives me the impression that Dizzy's either;
a/) thinking very carefully about the answers he gives so he doesn't reveal too much
or
b/) trying to come up with a lie that makes it look like he knows what he's talking about when he really doesn't

I'd like to think it was A. But in any case, this IS Axl's project, for all the reasons madagas said, and for that reason i'll take his word over the rest of the players. He says we hear new music this year, so I'll take it until i hear different from him OR it's december and nothing's happened (always a possibility). Though I wish our interviewer would post his little nugget which indicates something more positive to him...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jmapelian on January 24, 2006, 12:25:17 PM
Dizzy's answers are almost as vague as Axl's.....how come whenever someone associated with this band gives an interview they don't say anything remotely informative....do they pass around a book "How to Give interviews Without Saying Anything?"


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: GnFnR87 on January 24, 2006, 12:42:36 PM
and now hes like, "oh..well if slash says its coming out in march, i'm excited.." i mean? WTF????

I think Dizzy was using a little something subtle called sarcasm. ::)

i was being a little sarcastic too haha. what i meant was he doesnt seem as enthusiastic about it as before.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: nesquick on January 24, 2006, 12:43:15 PM
It's not Dizzy's fault if he doesn't know as much as he would. Axl's got the key, not Dizzy. Stop bashing him.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 24, 2006, 12:52:04 PM
You guys pay the most attention to one line and one line only. It was actually a good interview although it didn't sound very optimistic.

But, really if you guys want to listen to anybody about this project, it should be axl cause he's the one in the driver's seat.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 24, 2006, 12:56:43 PM
the thing that gets me is. everyone says

"oh it's so great everyone has input and it is a band cuz everyone helped"

well tell me this, how come nobody knows shit about shit and all the band members are scattered about the world doing their own thing while Axl finishes the record?

IMHO It's Axl's project, will always will be Axl's project and Tommy, Robin, Brain, Richard, Dizzy, Pittman & whoever else in the "Band" are frogs and they Jump when Axl says so. For fuck sakes richard left his newborn to record more stuff for Axl. what more proof do you need?

That's what I've been saying for years.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 24, 2006, 01:00:12 PM
your right,it is axls project but he couldnt do it alone,there is still a band and when the time comes and they are on the road or telly etc,you will realise that for this thing to work,it would need axls final word.and everyone except axl has been told,"keep your mouth shut until the time is right".

My freind, that is a definition of a yes-man. A pawn. "Your say is important when i say it is"

No. A rock band is a group of people who record an album and see it through till the end. People that will say "what the fuck are you on about? don't do that it sounds like shit" or "cool groove lets keep it but tweak the bass drum" or "how does this sound?" that is a band.

Bands can work like they want. sometimes there is a boss and the others are only puppets to play the songs, sometimes they have their input but have no say, sometimes it's a collaborate effor. But the biggest problem with this band that it's not working at all.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 24, 2006, 01:12:47 PM
your right,it is axls project but he couldnt do it alone,there is still a band and when the time comes and they are on the road or telly etc,you will realise that for this thing to work,it would need axls final word.and everyone except axl has been told,"keep your mouth shut until the time is right".

My freind, that is a definition of a yes-man. A pawn. "Your say is important when i say it is"

No. A rock band is a group of people who record an album and see it through till the end. People that will say "what the fuck are you on about? don't do that it sounds like shit" or "cool groove lets keep it but tweak the bass drum" or "how does this sound?" that is a band.

Bands can work like they want. sometimes there is a boss and the others are only puppets to play the songs, sometimes they have their input but have no say, sometimes it's a collaborate effor. But the biggest problem with this band that it's not working at all.

And how would you know that it's not working? If it wasn't working, then the band would have fallen apart a long time ago. Trust me.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 01:15:30 PM
It's not Dizzy's fault if he doesn't know as much as he would. Axl's got the key, not Dizzy. Stop bashing him.

That is exactly my point nesquick. How can it be a "band" if only one guy out of seven knows what is happening in that "band"?

If i was in a band I'd like to think i had as much say as the next guy. That's exactly why Slash left, everything he brought to the table Axl denied. I recall reading that everything on "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere" was written by Slash as ideas for the next GnR record, and Axl had no desire to entertain his ideas. I know it's not the best album of all time but it's got a few decent tracks on it, imagine if it was Axl writing and singing vocals on that record. It woulda been killer IMO. I'm not saying it's 100% truth but i know i read that somewhere.

You guys pay the most attention to one line and one line only. It was actually a good interview although it didn't sound very optimistic.

But, really if you guys want to listen to anybody about this project, it should be axl cause he's the one in the driver's seat.

My point again, everybody should be helping to steer the ship.

I picked that quote cuz I'm interested in CD and what the fuck is holding up this Album. If you read my post i refered to several of Dizzy's answers. I only quoted one.

I don't care about his thoughts on Slash or his thoughts on VR or How long he has known Axl.

I agree though, good interview. : ok: Just not good answers IMHO. :(

Bands can work like they want. sometimes there is a boss and the others are only puppets to play the songs, sometimes they have their input but have no say, sometimes it's a collaborate effor. But the biggest problem with this band that it's not working at all.

But to me that is not a band. That is a solo effort with hired musicians. Obviously they are gonna help with writing the music. I'm sure Robin, Richard, Buckethead, Dave Navarro, Brian May & Zakk Wylde all know how to get what is requred out of a guitar than Axl does and Axl knows it. That's why he hires guys who he thinks can produce the best music. Look at Ozzy, ultimately it's his thing. If Zakk plays something he doesn't like I'm sure it is not used, it's not like Ozzy writes the guitar parts and Zakk plays them. Zakk wirtes the music. But who's song is No More Tears? Ozzy's or Zakk's?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 01:39:51 PM
Dizzy's answers are almost as vague as Axl's.....how come whenever someone associated with this band gives an interview they don't say anything remotely informative....do they pass around a book "How to Give interviews Without Saying Anything?"

Exactly. And axl's are as vague as Dizzys. They are deliberate, from what I can gather. they are both
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a/) thinking very carefully about the answers he gives so he doesn't reveal too much
or
b/) trying to come up with a lie that makes it look like he knows what he's talking about when he really doesn't

But in any case, this IS Axl's project, for all the reasons madagas said, and for that reason i'll take his word over the rest of the players.

Then, why doesn't he call it Axl and the Jobbers, like neemo suggested?

And what about these words?

''It's not an Axl Rose album, even if it's what I wanted it to be. Everybody is putting everything they've got into singing and building. Maybe I'm helping steer it to what it should be built like.'' -Axl Speaks
Rolling Stone, January 2000 http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=30



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 01:54:12 PM
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Then, why doesn't he call it Axl and the Jobbers, like neemo suggested?

I'm not trying to suggest that the rest of the band has no musical input in the album-when i say it's his project, i mean that he is the one who assumes all the risk and reputation regarding it-therefore, he is control of how the final product is made. I think the quote you gave from the RS article actually proves that-he's the one steering it to what it should be like. Well, who's the guy utlimately determining what it should be like like? Axl! He's the Captain of the ship, so to speak,which means he ultimately will chart the course. All the shipmates can do is take shore leave until he says it's time to come back.

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Dizzy's answers are almost as vague as Axl's.

 How vague were Axl's answers, really? I guess there's some ambiguity as to what 'people will hear new music this year' and 'we'll see what happens' in terms of touring mean-but other than that, he gave a pretty darn specific update as to what was going on with the project (32 tracks selected working on 26, first release will have 13 tracks-he even threw out titles). Did he say, yeah it'll be out in October or something to that effect? No. But what he said was more than anything we've heard in a long while.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 24, 2006, 02:01:50 PM
Which is the same thing he did in December 99 when he was interviewed by RS and actually let the writer listen to 12 songs! Again, we are in the exact same position as 1999-no tour dates and no album release date. Still recording. Do you not find that comical??? :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: F*ck Fear on January 24, 2006, 02:04:16 PM
I guess Black Label Society is no more of a band then Guns is?
Zakk writes all the material,and plays most of the guitar work..The other guys are there for him on tour.
At least Axl lets these guys write stuff.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 02:10:21 PM
Which is the same thing he did in December 99 when he was interviewed by RS and actually let the writer listen to 12 songs! Again, we are in the exact same position as 1999-no tour dates and no album release date. Still recording. Do you not find that comical??? :hihi:

Oh, I find it absolutely absurd-i'm not saying it isn't ridiculous. And i've said over and over that common sense dictates the album probably won't see the light of day. But that I always retain a small belief that it could-and when I hear something from Axl, I will take it slightly more seriosuly than the other band members' statements.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 24, 2006, 02:15:03 PM
"slightly" being the key word...only slightly.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 02:22:08 PM

''It's not an Axl Rose album, even if it's what I wanted it to be. Everybody is putting everything they've got into singing and building. Maybe I'm helping steer it to what it should be built like.'' -Axl Speaks
Rolling Stone, January 2000 http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=30



ppbebe that quote could be taken in two ways. since i'm arguing my point "I'll help steer" it my way :hihi:

To paraphrase.

"Axl has a very specific idea what he wants for his album, or at least he did when it all started, it was the variables that added to it. but he still is keeping the core of what his idea was originally."

See, what I'm getting out of all this is that Axl is in charge of this beast, and he decides what stay or goes. Yes he is using ideas of the others but, his ideas come first and foremost. I have a sneaky suspicion that if Axl doesn;t like something that one of them came up with he didn't or won't use it, however if he likes something that others don't (even if it is all 6 of them), tough shit it stays. that is not collaboration IMO

Right now, to me, it looks more like Dizzy, Tommy, Robin, Richard, Brain and Chris are Axl's backup band. Yes they may be the current GnR but only cuz Axl says so.

I guess Black Label Society is no more of a band then Guns is?
Zakk writes all the material,and plays most of the guitar work..The other guys are there for him on tour.
At least Axl lets these guys write stuff.

You got it man!! : ok: Congrats, Same with Megadeth(Dave mustaine is notorious for burning through band members but that's the way it is, his way or the highway, he's got the talent to back it up too)

It doesn't mean it's a bad thing mind you, I love BLS, Megadeth, Ozzy, Silverchair, Nirvana, Foo Fighters the list can go on and on really.

It's just that sometimes people make it seem like dizzy sits next to axl when he writes music. I don;'t beleive that is the case, yeah these guys helped Axl write music for songs but I don;t think that they are a total collaborative effort


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 02:26:23 PM
"slightly" being the key word...only slightly.

exactly : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: billsguy on January 24, 2006, 02:34:18 PM
holy shit this is the most negative post i've seen on here in a while.  this thread isn't to debate what type of band gnr is.  thats been done 10,000 times.  i think its pretty fuckin cool that dizzy went to a college, bullshitted with guys all weekend and partied, and one guy is taking the time to write up what happened.  i wish that happened when i was in college.  i think the key here is that axl is the main guy, the one who will greenlight any info going out, etc, but i also think that this band is much tighter than we think.  sure, they are doing other stuff.  thats because the album isn't out yet.  axl is tweaking and working.  it is his baby.  but i think this band clicks pretty damn well, and at least according to tommy, much better since buckethead left.  they are all rockers at heart.  but as axl said long ago, don't live waiting for the album, live life.  its because he isn't in a hurry to get it out.  yeah it sucks for us, but hes not in any hurry. 

 i can't wait to hear the rest of the interview.  thanks poster for the insight into an awesome weekend.  question: did you guys initiate/haze him at all?  that'd be pretty intense to haze a member of gnr!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 24, 2006, 02:45:18 PM

At least Axl lets these guys write stuff.

Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 02:50:49 PM
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Then, why doesn't he call it Axl and the Jobbers, like neemo suggested?

I'm not trying to suggest that the rest of the band has no musical input in the album-when i say it's his project, i mean that he is the one who assumes all the risk and reputation regarding it-therefore, he is control of how the final product is made. I think the quote you gave from the RS article actually proves that-he's the one steering it to what it should be like. Well, who's the guy utlimately determining what it should be like like? Axl! He's the Captain of the ship, so to speak,which means he ultimately will chart the course. All the shipmates can do is take shore leave until he says it's time to come back.

See. Here we're discussing whether this is a band or a one-man band at Axl's leisure.

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Dizzy's answers are almost as vague as Axl's.

How vague were Axl's answers, really? I guess there's some ambiguity as to what 'people will hear new music this year' and 'we'll see what happens' in terms of touring mean-but other than that, he gave a pretty darn specific update as to what was going on with the project (32 tracks selected working on 26, first release will have 13 tracks-he even threw out titles). Did he say, yeah it'll be out in October or something to that effect? No. But what he said was more than anything we've heard in a long while.
Are we sure that there will be13 tracks on CD? Does the article say so?
Actually he said they are working on 32 songs and not on 26 songs.
I don't think Dizzy's much vaguer than Axl's.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 24, 2006, 02:59:23 PM
All you guys are doing is shouting at each other. We're not even really discussing anything anymore.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 03:05:41 PM
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Are we sure that there will be13 tracks on CD? Does the article say so?
Actually he said they are working on 32 songs and not on 26 songs.
I don't think Dizzy's much vaguer than Axl's.

My mistake on the inverting the track quote. But when the article says Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. I take that to mean CD, which is what the writer is primarily talking about at the beginning of the article. He's paraphrasing. I guess you could take 'final album' to mean the second release, but that doesn't seem to fit the context of the article. Unfortunately, we have no transcript of the whole conversation. But Dizzy seems not to know anything regarding where the project stands where Axl at least said something about it's progession (and i use that word with caution).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 03:11:34 PM
All you guys are doing is shouting at each other. We're not even really discussing anything anymore.

We're discussing the comments made by various band members at various stages in the saga that is Chinese Democracy and we're also discussing whether or not this album is a band collaboration or Axl's solo project.

I don't mean any of my posts to be "shouting". sorry if they come across like that :-\


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on January 24, 2006, 03:22:40 PM
Dizzy Reed likes the T-Shirts of VR?? ...  Every day I like dizzy reed less...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 03:23:13 PM
typing up another piece of the interview now... give me a moment


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on January 24, 2006, 03:24:44 PM
All you guys are doing is shouting at each other. We're not even really discussing anything anymore.

We're discussing the comments made by various band members at various stages in the saga that is Chinese Democracy and we're also discussing whether or not this album is a band collaboration or Axl's solo project.

I don't mean any of my posts to be "shouting". sorry if they come across like that :-\

I THOUGHT THIS WAS SHOUTING!!!!


 ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 24, 2006, 03:25:31 PM
Dizzy Reed likes the T-Shirts of VR?? ...? Every day I like dizzy reed less...

Just because he likes their t-shirts? Is he supposed to hate them?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on January 24, 2006, 03:28:56 PM
No man, but it seems to be a mockery since he talks about their T-Shirts instead of them as musicians.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 24, 2006, 03:30:37 PM
No man, but it seems to be a mockery since he talks about their T-Shirts instead of them as musicians.

Ok, i understand your point now :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 24, 2006, 03:30:51 PM
All you guys are doing is shouting at each other. We're not even really discussing anything anymore.

We're discussing the comments made by various band members at various stages in the saga that is Chinese Democracy and we're also discussing whether or not this album is a band collaboration or Axl's solo project.

I don't mean any of my posts to be "shouting". sorry if they come across like that :-\

I THOUGHT THIS WAS SHOUTING!!!!


 ;D
Please don't Thorazine, I'm sensitive :crying:

Dizzy Reed likes the T-Shirts of VR?? ... Every day I like dizzy reed less...

here we go with the whole sarcasm thing again :rofl:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 03:34:37 PM
@ NickNasty06
Not only that. they may well have more which they're not working on anymore.
Remember the interview "unexpectedly" occured at a bash. not the quietest place, I suppose.

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All you guys are doing is shouting at each other. We're not even really discussing anything anymore.

You must be joking.  ??? I don't know about the first 2 pages but we're all very civil. No name calling.

Anyways. billsguy is right. How come some of you are so negative about this interview?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on January 24, 2006, 03:36:57 PM
I read that the other new gnr members' ideas werent taking in count... I wonder how much of that is true ??

Quote by the Dirt
"Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard."


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 03:38:39 PM
I read that the other new gnr members' ideas werent taking in count... I wonder how much of that is true ??

Quote by the Dirt
"Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard."

which pretty much confirms that richard is a rythm guitar player and not a solo or lead player and therfor not the one to take buckets parts...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 24, 2006, 03:38:57 PM
I read that the other new gnr members' ideas werent taking in count... I wonder how much of that is true ??

Quote by the Dirt
"Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard."

Wouldnt that mean he hasnt re-recorded anybodys solo's?  ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 24, 2006, 03:45:44 PM
I read that the other new gnr members' ideas werent taking in count... I wonder how much of that is true ??

Quote by the Dirt
"Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard."

which pretty much confirms that richard is a rythm guitar player and not a solo or lead player and therfor not the one to take buckets parts...

What it also confirms is that his ideas are not on anything in any capacity, be it lead, rhythm, bongos, or farts.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 03:53:21 PM
Yep saul. I'd read it as erose does.  :D
I think he was referring to the first album.

What did he actually say?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 24, 2006, 03:57:30 PM
I read that the other new gnr members' ideas werent taking in count... I wonder how much of that is true ??

Quote by the Dirt
"Richard said recently in an email that none of his ideas are on anything he's heard."

Wouldnt that mean he hasnt re-recorded anybodys solo's?? ???

No, he very well could have, or could have tried.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 24, 2006, 03:59:19 PM
I think he was referring to the first album.

What did he actually say?

What first album? This was from a very recent email.

Go look in the "emails from ricchard" thread. It's in there somewhere, but my paraphrase is almost spot on.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 04:00:57 PM
Part II (Part III is on page 20, part IV is on page 24)

What are your current relations to the other Gunners?

"Uhh... I've only seen Matt recently [because Matt Sorum is apparently the only Gunner who goes out] and Steven when he played with the Starfuckers one night at the Cat Club where I play on Thursdays.? Other than that, I haven't talked to anyone else... well, I talked to Izzy a couple years ago- he was at a recording studio playing some of his new stuff."

Building on this, from talking to him at lunch & whatnot... Dizzy had a LOT to say about the former Gunners.? Keep in mind these are paraphrases...

On Izzy:? 'You have to understand that Izzy is one of those people that does whatever he wants.? You know... when I joined the band, he sometimes... just didn't show up.? Examples include during the recording of the music video for "Don't Cry" and the music video for "You Could Be Mine" at the end in the scene where the band exits the studio and sees Arnold.? [we watch the 'You Could be Mine' music video and Dizzy comments... "hey... where's Izzy? o wait... yea, he wasn't there"] Obviously part of the reason that Izzy left might have been the fact that he and Axl didn't get along towards the end... but thats just part of it.? I mean... about the Ju Ju Hounds... I have a friend who was the guitarist for that band back in the early 90s and he was always complaining about how Izzy would just not show up for shows.? [I comment that Izzy is turning into Axl... which puts a frown on Dizzy's face]? And... just as a musician... Izzy used to be a great songwriter- his contribution to Guns N' Roses first album are phenomenal.? But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire... I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio... and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" - it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out.? [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean... this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he's writing about getting his tooth pulled... I mean come on... can you imagine Axl singing that live?' [I next ask him about rumors that Izzy had been paying visits to Axl's Malibu mansion over the last few years and had been rejected at the door several times] Yea... he's always doing that- he'd done it a few times actually. [I ask him if its because Izzy wants back in G'n'R] No... I mean I'm not sure... the guy sort of just does his own thing... he did join us back during the Use Your Illusion tour briefly... Gilby had hurt himself and so he stepped in for a couple of dates... I mean, the guy's really weird is the best way to describe it... in '91, we were playing some shows in England... like one day we were having the times of our lives playing a sold-out Wembley and the next day... I talk to Izzy and he's like: "I'm leaving the band" and I'm like "what!?" and he's like: "Dizzy... I'm leaving the band." I personally don't understand him to any extent.

On Steven: 'Wow... what to say about this guy... I just recently played with Steven with the Starfuckers... actually it was both him and C.C. Deville of Poison.? It was like this really hyped up concert because here's two big names playing with us... and let me tell you... at the concert... you could hear a pin drop.? C.C. DeVille was terrible.. the guy can't play for the life of him... and Steven... he can't even hold a beat anymore let alone play drums.? We'd look bad and the guy was literally smoking crack while on stage during the songs.? It was possibly the worst concert of my life... I mean... there's only so many times that a guy can die from an overdose and come back alive...

On Jani Lane of Warrant: 'Let me tell you about Jani Lane... I just recently performed with this guy.. he was at the Raven's Heart benefit show [I think this is the concert he mentioned] And he literally had to be carried on stage because he was so drugged up... he couldn't sing.. like at all... it was like a comic act.. because he was just on stage making a fool of himself.. everyone at the show was laughing and you know... I felt bad for him [when asked about the VH1 show that shows that he's sober] TV's TV man.. the guy's no different now.. that was just for a bit of publicity.? I mean he recently calls me on my cell completely fucked up and is like: "MEET ME AT _____ tomorrow!" and I'm like: "wait.. who is this?" and he's like: "what?" and I'm like: "who is this?" and he's like: "ITS JANI" and hangs up... and he actually expects me to talk to his management about playing with him.

On Matt Nelson of Nelson: 'Saw him recently at a concert. He came up to me and was like "hi... I'm Matt Nelson. Was wondering if you knew any keyboardists who might be up for playing with me and my band at ____ [I forget the show name]. And obviously the guy's pointing at asking me if I wanted to play so I talk to him for a while and its literally minutes before I realize that this guys Matt Nelson of the band Nelson 'cause I mean he has like short hair now... and then he starts talking about Axl... he says: "Dizzy... you know- me and Axl are very alike" and Im like... "Really? how...?" and he's like: "I dated Erin Everly right when he was going through their divorce" and I'm like "holy shit... 'cause I didn't even know that. and so of course I couldn't do that to Axl... to play with this guy"'

Who was better for Axl? Erin Everly or Stephanie Seymour?

"You know... this is a degree of privacy and that's his own personal business."

I hear that Axl's still having trouble getting over his breakup with Stephanie Seymour because he perceived her to be perfect for him... is that true?

"I haven't heard him talk about her in quite a while... but it could be true... it's his personal relationship"






about a half done!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 24, 2006, 04:06:38 PM
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Syd Vega on January 24, 2006, 04:08:51 PM
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

let me be the first to say: I really doubt it... 8)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Evolution on January 24, 2006, 04:12:21 PM
Very good so far madagascar88  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 24, 2006, 04:13:11 PM
Madagascar88  comes through!

Thanks for proving us wrong.

 :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: The Hinge on January 24, 2006, 04:18:51 PM

This is very interesting reading, almost unbelievable.
out of interest how did you come to hear axl was still having troubles with his break up with SS ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 04:20:42 PM
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

Yea but I'm sorta disappointed as I thought they were at least serious about their band. :-\


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 24, 2006, 04:24:29 PM
How legit is this anyway?  ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: F*ck Fear on January 24, 2006, 04:27:51 PM
Thanks for posting!
Great stuff so far.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Origen on January 24, 2006, 04:32:03 PM
Quote
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

No they have better things to do, you know like tour, speak to their fans and actually release albums. But since your waiting for Axl's GnR tribute bands album you wouldn't know what that is like.


We don't know jackshit about what happens behind closed doors, I bet just a few weeks ago if someone suggested that Axl was on speaking terms (and probably more) with Izzy that you would of thought it was a crazy idea.


Quote
(next ask him about rumors that Izzy had been paying visits to Axl's Malibu mansion over the last few years and had been rejected at the door several times) ?Yea... he's always doing that- he'd done it a few times actually.

Guess Izzy has spoke to Axl more then Dizzy since Axl said he and Izzy just spoke a few weeks ago ?::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 24, 2006, 04:40:21 PM
Wow!!

Fireworks!

Slash and Duff sniffing around about a reunion.....Adler and CC are washed up.....allusions to something that will happen that legitimizes the 2006 is the year talk.

Pure Dynamite.

Is it really true?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 04:41:27 PM
Not Guns related-but isn't it funny in sad way to see what's happened to some of those 80s LA hairbands? Adler smoking crack ON STAGE?? Jani Lane having to be propped up? I swear, given who Dizzy knows, he could write one wild tell-all book about the fall of the Sunset Strip bands.

Also, I'm not doubting our interviwer or Dizzy, ::) but it is very hard for me to believe the old guys are really clamoring for a reunion given the success of VR-what's the incentive? Yes, money, but they're all well enough off and VR has been profitable. The only thing I can figure is that there are problems with Weiland in some capacity, but if there are, they've been surpisingly tight-lipped about it, gotta call is false.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 05:16:43 PM
Well Slash and Duff sniffing at a rose doesn't mean a shit when Axl has better things to do. And none of Dizzy's comments says otherwise.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Chief on January 24, 2006, 05:21:25 PM
thanks so much for typing up this interview.. lots of interesting stuff here! i wouldn't expect there to be too many revelations about the new album from other members because i believe Axl is going to give some kind of big interview/press release whenever he is finally ready to roll and he doesnt want all the info coming out before then.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on January 24, 2006, 05:43:24 PM
Dizzy Reed? guys Im upset for some of the statements the Star "Fucker" said, but then again I think its only Dizzy Reed ...  so maybe I shouldnt give a "?$43 ....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 24, 2006, 05:44:23 PM
Is it me or does the second part of the interview have parts that seem almost unbelievable. No one in GNR has been this forthcoming to anyone so far and the reunion thing seems far fetched considering VR's success. ?And Steven smoking crack onstage? Wouldnt we have heard about that one sooner?

Im not saying this interview is a fabrication. Just playing devils advocate here.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on January 24, 2006, 05:48:13 PM
Or maybe  Dizzy doesnt know what to say...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 05:48:59 PM
Quote
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

No they have better things to do, you know like tour, speak to their fans and actually release albums. But since your waiting for Axl's GnR tribute bands album you wouldn't know what that is like.


We don't know jackshit about what happens behind closed doors, I bet just a few weeks ago if someone suggested that Axl was on speaking terms (and probably more) with Izzy that you would of thought it was a crazy idea.


Quote
(next ask him about rumors that Izzy had been paying visits to Axl's Malibu mansion over the last few years and had been rejected at the door several times) ?Yea... he's always doing that- he'd done it a few times actually.

Guess Izzy has spoke to Axl more then Dizzy since Axl said he and Izzy just spoke a few weeks ago ?::)

sure VR has had some sucsess, but noone in the world can say that vr has even reached gn'r to the ankle. jeez, didn't gn'rs GH sell more than contraband?

for me VR was really great cuz i got to hear slash play again, and it was really cool to see duff as i think he has become a real cool guy compared to his sloppy slurbing married to a pornstar wearing bowties on covers etc. now he's actually really fit and grounded and his bass playing just gets better and better imo it's all about the music for duff now which is great. fuck wiland, kushner and sorum, they're just fillers...

ofcourse slash n' duff and steven and matt want a gn'r reunion, they would be stupid not to and i know that slash n' the rest are as interested as us, if not more, to hear Chinese Democracy and you know what, they think thats the coolest album title of all time too.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 24, 2006, 05:50:02 PM
How legit is this anyway?  ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 24, 2006, 05:52:28 PM
How legit is this anyway?? ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...

Keeping tight lipped for several years, then opening up to some guy you never met with confidential info doesnt seem likely to happen.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 05:57:18 PM
How legit is this anyway?? ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...

Keeping tight lipped for several years, then opening up to some guy you never met with confidential info doesnt seem likely to happen.

unless there's a real reason to start talking to fans about GN'R!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 05:58:30 PM
How legit is this anyway?? ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...

Keeping tight lipped for several years, then opening up to some guy you never met with confidential info doesnt seem likely to happen.

it's a paraphrase... he may or may not have used the word 'confidential'


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 24, 2006, 06:04:37 PM
Quote
lots of interesting stuff here! i wouldn't expect there to be too many revelations about the new album from other members because i believe Axl is going to give some kind of big interview/press release whenever he is finally ready to roll and he doesnt want all the info coming out before then.

Yay, Chief.   : ok: That's how I see this interview and Axls one at Korn party.


''It's not an Axl Rose album, even if it's what I wanted it to be. Everybody is putting everything they've got into singing and building. Maybe I'm helping steer it to what it should be built like.'' -Axl Speaks
Rolling Stone, January 2000 http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=30



ppbebe that quote could be taken in two ways. since i'm arguing my point "I'll help steer" it my way :hihi:

To paraphrase.

"Axl has a very specific idea what he wants for his album, or at least he did when it all started, it was the variables that added to it. but he still is keeping the core of what his idea was originally."

See, what I'm getting out of all this is that Axl is in charge of this beast, and he decides what stay or goes. Yes he is using ideas of the others but, his ideas come first and foremost. I have a sneaky suspicion that if Axl doesn;t like something that one of them came up with he didn't or won't use it, however if he likes something that others don't (even if it is all 6 of them), tough shit it stays. that is not collaboration IMO

Right now, to me, it looks more like Dizzy, Tommy, Robin, Richard, Brain and Chris are Axl's backup band. Yes they may be the current GnR but only cuz Axl says so.

And what Axl says correspond to what Tommy says.
Someone have to take the charge. Like  Jimmy Page did to Led zeppelin, for instance. So why not the captain of GNR?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: gav on January 24, 2006, 06:08:48 PM
So Madagascar, I'm guessing you will not tell us what the one thing is that's supposedly coming up which leads you to believe preparations for release are underway.

Could you at least tell us when this event should occur??  ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 06:09:21 PM
So Madagascar, I'm guessing you will not tell us what the one thing is that's supposedly coming up which leads you to believe preparations for release are underway.

Could you at least tell us when this event should occur??? ???

within a week I'd say


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: gav on January 24, 2006, 06:11:06 PM
and just how major will it be??


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 06:13:12 PM
and just how major will it be??

well... I'm not talking about a public announcement here... I just said that it could lead towards the forwarding of the release of Chinese Democracy


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: gav on January 24, 2006, 06:15:11 PM
and just how major will it be??

well... I'm not talking about a public announcement here... I just said that it could lead towards the forwarding of the release of Chinese Democracy

ok, can you give us any hints??

If not, I guess a week's not too long to wait! Hell, the past 12 years have just flown! I hope your right, fella! :)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on January 24, 2006, 06:39:47 PM
A very interesting read.  But I'm gonna have to take this with a grain of salt.   I just can't imagine Dizzy flapping his lips like that.  But keep going Madagascar88, I'm enjoying it. : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 24, 2006, 06:55:27 PM
Some sort of annoncement would be great as far as an album release date. fuck yeah baby, i hope I'm not getting EXCITING FOR NOTHING!!!!! whooooooaaaahhhhhhhaaahhhh!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 24, 2006, 07:12:24 PM
just fukin tell us. whats the big deal...why wait a week? stop playing th egnr game its annoying. either say and report the news or go away stop seeking attention


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 24, 2006, 07:13:33 PM
Thanks Madagascar. Dont let the haters bring you down.. just keep typing what your typing.. and give us a damn clue about whats happening in a week!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 07:14:18 PM
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

bah!
what a load of nonsense
the money whores are out there delivering to their fans - Mr Reed is the whore if anyone, allowing his musicality to be comprimised by his yes-man status


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 24, 2006, 07:16:38 PM
How legit is this anyway?? ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...

yes, it all sounds a bit loose to me(was he drunk?)

im starting to doubt the legitamacy of this- the Steven and Slash comments are a tad too out there for me to think this is believeable


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 24, 2006, 07:18:48 PM
Adler sounds fucked from the recent interviews and Dizzy's comments, he just can't keep away from the gear.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: elevendayempire on January 24, 2006, 07:27:31 PM
All this is great stuff, but I'm wondering why no-one seems to have bothered asking whether GN'R is going to get themselves a third guitarist to replace Buckethead, or if they're just going to press ahead with Fortus and Finck...

SG


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Scabbie on January 24, 2006, 07:31:09 PM
and just how major will it be??

well... I'm not talking about a public announcement here... I just said that it could lead towards the forwarding of the release of Chinese Democracy

Is it something we would necessarily hear about?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 07:34:28 PM
Let me be the first to say I'm not surprised that the money whores have been begging Axl to get back into the band

bah!
what a load of nonsense
the money whores are out there delivering to their fans - Mr Reed is the whore if anyone, allowing his musicality to be comprimised by his yes-man status

yeah right, as if dizzy doesn't do whatever the fuck he wants to do with his music wtf???? the guy's been out there on the scene alot and just because he believes in axl doesn't make him axl's yes man lol... get a grip, i'm not saying anyone is a money whore here, but slash stated himself that he was practically broke and that money was a big reason for doing the VR gig, they even had the labels go through a bidding war to get the most cash out of it, plus they sell their music to mediocre films, and releases the album in three different colors and they rereleased it a couple of times aswell go figure...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Butch Franšais on January 24, 2006, 07:42:17 PM
sounds a little too far out there for me.
the comments about Slash and Duff can be from 5 years ago for all we know, but I seriously doubt it has happened since they started working with VR.

and the Steven comments are just bollocks. Ive heard several live stuff with AA and heard their studio tracks, and from what Ive heard I can tell that he's probably 3 times better technically these days than back in the GNR days.
sounds to me it's either fake, or Dizzy is trying his best to spread shit about his former comrades.
some of the Izzy comments seems unlikely too really.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 07:45:38 PM
and just how major will it be??

well... I'm not talking about a public announcement here... I just said that it could lead towards the forwarding of the release of Chinese Democracy

Is it something we would necessarily hear about?

no


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Anguro on January 24, 2006, 08:01:31 PM
So Madagascar, I'm guessing you will not tell us what the one thing is that's supposedly coming up which leads you to believe preparations for release are underway.

Could you at least tell us when this event should occur??? ???

within a week I'd say

Gn'R and Super Bowl XL......................   that's what you're talking about, right!?



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on January 24, 2006, 08:08:01 PM
dizzy ... a frat boy ..... LAAAAAMMMMME.


chaa !! chaaaa. yeah .... beer.... yeah .... gay sex ... yeah .... chaaaaa......


:)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on January 24, 2006, 08:09:25 PM
At the end of the day, we have a 1 post wonder stringing people along about this supposed "event" as well as Dizzy all of a sudden flapping his gums at some college kids. ?This is turning into bullshit. ?Plain and simple.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 24, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
At the end of the day, we have a 1 post wonder stringing people along about this supposed "event" as well as Dizzy all of a sudden flapping his gums at some college kids.  This is turning into bullshit.  Plain and simple.

Having met Dizzwald, I know he can put back alot and still remain quiet if he wants too-he ain't stupid, and some of this stuff is pretty incredible. and as for this 'wait another week' stuff, c'mon bro, put up or shut up!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 24, 2006, 08:37:26 PM
At the end of the day, we have a 1 post wonder stringing people along about this supposed "event" as well as Dizzy all of a sudden flapping his gums at some college kids.  This is turning into bullshit.  Plain and simple.

Having met Dizzwald, I know he can put back alot and still remain quiet if he wants too-he ain't stupid, and some of this stuff is pretty incredible. and as for this 'wait another week' stuff, c'mon bro, put up or shut up!

Bingo, Dizzy doesn't blab about stuff plain and simple. Seems to me someone is putting words in Dizzy's mouth and trying to get attention.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 24, 2006, 09:07:34 PM
Madagascar, sorry if you already said this and I missed it, but I was wondering..

How did you keep track of everything you and Dizzy talked about?  Tape recorder, taking notes, or an exceptional memory?  And was it with the understanding that you were doing an interview, or 2 guys hanging out drinking?

Also, this thing you are referring to that should happen in the week, were you told not to talk about it or just using your own discretion? 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 24, 2006, 09:08:37 PM
So Madagascar, I'm guessing you will not tell us what the one thing is that's supposedly coming up which leads you to believe preparations for release are underway.

Could you at least tell us when this event should occur??? ???

within a week I'd say

Gn'R and Super Bowl XL......................? ?that's what you're talking about, right!?




By the way, Go Seahawks!  I'm so damn excited for that game.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 24, 2006, 09:10:28 PM
I believe him.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 24, 2006, 09:11:45 PM
So.. i saw a rumour about Axl beeing on a radiostation on Friday, over at chinesedemocracy forum... could it be that?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 24, 2006, 09:15:20 PM
http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Axl_Rose_In_Studio_On_Friday/

you mean that nytunz?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 24, 2006, 09:18:49 PM
yeah, i guess thats the one... I dont dare on beliving it, but you never fucking now thease days.. there is 10 gnr rumours everyday.. and something got to happen soon..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 09:24:39 PM
http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Axl_Rose_In_Studio_On_Friday/

you mean that nytunz?


wow thats huge!

this isn't a rumor or is it?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 24, 2006, 09:28:28 PM
http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Axl_Rose_In_Studio_On_Friday/

you mean that nytunz?


wow thats huge!

this isn't a rumor or is it?

I think it is. but i like to think rumours often are more stupid then just that simple note.. .. Lets see  :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 24, 2006, 09:34:54 PM
http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Axl_Rose_In_Studio_On_Friday/

you mean that nytunz?


wow thats huge!

this isn't a rumor or is it?

I think it is. but i like to think rumours often are more stupid then just that simple note.. .. Lets see? :peace:

but this is that leykis guys official site so he should have taken it away if it was fake.... did this just come up?

lets start a new thread about this and force all the investigators to figure this one out... why hasn't splat reported this rumor???  :confused:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 24, 2006, 09:37:33 PM
http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Axl_Rose_In_Studio_On_Friday/

you mean that nytunz?


wow thats huge!

this isn't a rumor or is it?

I think it is. but i like to think rumours often are more stupid then just that simple note.. .. Lets see? :peace:

but this is that leykis guys official site so he should have taken it away if it was fake.... did this just come up?

lets start a new thread about this and force all the investigators to figure this one out... why hasn't splat reported this rumor???? :confused:

yeah, make a new thread.. this rumour it could fith with the rumour from Dizzy... Hmm


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on January 24, 2006, 09:43:55 PM
Don't want to bust anyones bubble, but no way is this interview true.

Read the last one again. Would Dizzy say that, or a fan with a big imagination?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 24, 2006, 09:44:55 PM
that thing about axl is fake http://www.blowmeuptom.com/divorceforum/Leykis_or_NOT/Just_Kidding/


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 24, 2006, 09:59:59 PM
Madagascar, sorry if you already said this and I missed it, but I was wondering..

How did you keep track of everything you and Dizzy talked about?? Tape recorder, taking notes, or an exceptional memory?? And was it with the understanding that you were doing an interview, or 2 guys hanging out drinking?

Also, this thing you are referring to that should happen in the week, were you told not to talk about it or just using your own discretion??

Im curious about that also. How did the interview take place & what led up to it?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on January 24, 2006, 10:15:26 PM
Madagascar, sorry if you already said this and I missed it, but I was wondering..

How did you keep track of everything you and Dizzy talked about?? Tape recorder, taking notes, or an exceptional memory?? And was it with the understanding that you were doing an interview, or 2 guys hanging out drinking?

Also, this thing you are referring to that should happen in the week, were you told not to talk about it or just using your own discretion??

Im curious about that also. How did the interview take place & what led up to it?

...it took place in his head...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on January 24, 2006, 10:33:49 PM
Madagascar 88, I have to ask why you won't provide us with your juicy bit of information that will dispell all concerns about the album?? It's not as if you made a promise to Dizzy that you'd keep your mouth shut, I mean he would hardly provide a complete stranger with "confidential" information.? Let alone if he knew this person was going to post this information on Guns N' Roses forums.? Either provide us with something that can be confirmed in about? a week or go post your attention seeking bullshit elsewhere.? I have an interview from this weekend where Axl came to my college and he let me listen to Chinese Democracy, hell he gave me a copy of it as well as the follow up albums; but he trusted me not to make it available to everyone on the internet.? He did however say that we will be getting some information "soon".? ::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Cornell on January 24, 2006, 10:46:53 PM
great interview, can't wait for the rest! thanks alot!

Hey C, did you go and see Dizzy?

No I didn't.  :-\  I got so busy that I actually forgot!  :-X  I missed a chance to hang out at the frat house too.  :P

Thanks for posting the interview!  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 11:03:00 PM
Madagascar 88, I have to ask why you won't provide us with your juicy bit of information that will dispell all concerns about the album?? It's not as if you made a promise to Dizzy that you'd keep your mouth shut, I mean he would hardly provide a complete stranger with "confidential" information.? Let alone if he knew this person was going to post this information on Guns N' Roses forums.? Either provide us with something that can be confirmed in about? a week or go post your attention seeking bullshit elsewhere.? I have an interview from this weekend where Axl came to my college and he let me listen to Chinese Democracy, hell he gave me a copy of it as well as the follow up albums; but he trusted me not to make it available to everyone on the internet.? He did however say that we will be getting some information "soon".? ::)

wow... thanks man... what an asshole.? guess what? if you think I'm trying to seek attention vs. just give you guys some info... I'm not gonna post the second half.? The interview part of my weekend was the worst part of my weekend with Dizzy 'cause guess what? I was drilling him with questions and in fact we cut it short 'cause he was obviously getting a little impatient.? I did that interview to answer your goddamn questions... my own questions I had answered during lunches and during the car rides.? So you know what?? I'm not gonna seek "attention" anymore... I'll shut up... saves me an hour tonight to do some work anyway


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 24, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
I am interested.  Come on with it! : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DaNutz on January 24, 2006, 11:18:17 PM
Great interview....But how in earth would Dizzy expect someone he never met (no matter how cool they were), to keep silent on
ANYTHING?

Especially if your not a journalist.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: billsguy on January 24, 2006, 11:22:07 PM
real simple.  start by checking ip with cornell university ips/new york ips.  if they match, he at least has a chance of telling the truth.  also, dizzy did hang out and join a fraternity for a weekend with some guys he knew.  obviously someone hung out with him enough to have regular discussion.  i for one believe this guy is telling the truth.  i'm still waiting to know if you guys hazed him or just did a ritual initiation or what. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 11:25:55 PM
Great interview....But how in earth would Dizzy expect someone he never met (no matter how cool they were), to keep silent on
ANYTHING?

Especially if your not a journalist.


I met Dizzy last year backstage after a concert here at my university. ?I interviewed him for 30 minutes for the local radio station I worked at. ?Next, I emailed Dizzy's drummer (Troy Patrick Farrell) about possibly having Hookers N Blow play at my fraternity. ?Troy passed the word onto Dizzy. ?Dizzy, remembering who I was, called me on my cell phone one evening (the most shocking call of my life) because I had included my cell phone number in the email to Troy. ?We then emailed each other back and forth about three times trying to set up Hookers N Blow to play at my house last Fall. ?Things fell through because they were asking for approximately 4-5k and our house didn't have those kinds of finances. ?But, me and Dizzy stayed in touch. ?I did a phone interview with him asking him several big questions including one about the song "catcher in the rye" which was posted I think last October. ?Then, as a joke, I emailed him asking him if he wanted to pledge my fraternity as an honorary brother. ?Somehow, totally unexpected, he said 'yes.' ?We worked out the flight details (our house paid obviously)- he had to fly in from LA and then depart to Ft. Walton, FL for another gig. ?So that's that.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 11:27:00 PM
real simple.? start by checking ip with cornell university ips/new york ips.? if they match, he at least has a chance of telling the truth.? also, dizzy did hang out and join a fraternity for a weekend with some guys he knew.? obviously someone hung out with him enough to have regular discussion.? i for one believe this guy is telling the truth.? i'm still waiting to know if you guys hazed him or just did a ritual initiation or what.?

hahaha... haze him... are you serious?

no... we skipped right to a ritual initiation... here's our frat website: http://www.psiofzetapsi.org

I'll let you guys know when pictures are posted from the weekend (they will be at the above address) but I for one am too frustrated at some of you to even make the effort in watching the recording of the interview and typing any more...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 24, 2006, 11:37:28 PM
real simple.  start by checking ip with cornell university ips/new york ips.  if they match, he at least has a chance of telling the truth.  also, dizzy did hang out and join a fraternity for a weekend with some guys he knew.  obviously someone hung out with him enough to have regular discussion.  i for one believe this guy is telling the truth.  i'm still waiting to know if you guys hazed him or just did a ritual initiation or what. 

hahaha... haze him... are you serious?

no... we skipped right to a ritual initiation... here's our frat website: http://www.psiofzetapsi.org

I'll let you guys know when pictures are posted from the weekend (they will be at the above address) but I for one am too frustrated at some of you to even make the effort in watching the recording of the interview and typing any more...

Man, don't let that get you down. You should know from hanging out on GNR forums the nature of the beast. Again, much thanks for what you've posted so far.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on January 24, 2006, 11:38:56 PM
Madagascar 88, I have to ask why you won't provide us with your juicy bit of information that will dispell all concerns about the album?  It's not as if you made a promise to Dizzy that you'd keep your mouth shut, I mean he would hardly provide a complete stranger with "confidential" information.  Let alone if he knew this person was going to post this information on Guns N' Roses forums.  Either provide us with something that can be confirmed in about  a week or go post your attention seeking bullshit elsewhere.  I have an interview from this weekend where Axl came to my college and he let me listen to Chinese Democracy, hell he gave me a copy of it as well as the follow up albums; but he trusted me not to make it available to everyone on the internet.  He did however say that we will be getting some information "soon".  ::)

wow... thanks man... what an asshole.  guess what? if you think I'm trying to seek attention vs. just give you guys some info... I'm not gonna post the second half.  The interview part of my weekend was the worst part of my weekend with Dizzy 'cause guess what? I was drilling him with questions and in fact we cut it short 'cause he was obviously getting a little impatient.  I did that interview to answer your goddamn questions... my own questions I had answered during lunches and during the car rides.  So you know what?  I'm not gonna seek "attention" anymore... I'll shut up... saves me an hour tonight to do some work anyway

No reason to get defensive. You claimed you had an important piece of info, all I'm asking is that you provide that lil tidbit.  Hell if you post pictures of you guys hanging out that will suffice.  Point is, we get a hundred people every year claiming to have some piece of information and then "hold it over our heads"  in order to earn some respect/attention.  If this isn't the case with you (and you can easily prove it isn't) then I'll be the first to thank you for your excellent work.  Until then, don't blame me or anyone else for being skeptical - after all you only have like 10 post on this forum.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 11:41:07 PM
Madagascar 88, I have to ask why you won't provide us with your juicy bit of information that will dispell all concerns about the album?? It's not as if you made a promise to Dizzy that you'd keep your mouth shut, I mean he would hardly provide a complete stranger with "confidential" information.? Let alone if he knew this person was going to post this information on Guns N' Roses forums.? Either provide us with something that can be confirmed in about? a week or go post your attention seeking bullshit elsewhere.? I have an interview from this weekend where Axl came to my college and he let me listen to Chinese Democracy, hell he gave me a copy of it as well as the follow up albums; but he trusted me not to make it available to everyone on the internet.? He did however say that we will be getting some information "soon".? ::)

wow... thanks man... what an asshole.? guess what? if you think I'm trying to seek attention vs. just give you guys some info... I'm not gonna post the second half.? The interview part of my weekend was the worst part of my weekend with Dizzy 'cause guess what? I was drilling him with questions and in fact we cut it short 'cause he was obviously getting a little impatient.? I did that interview to answer your goddamn questions... my own questions I had answered during lunches and during the car rides.? So you know what?? I'm not gonna seek "attention" anymore... I'll shut up... saves me an hour tonight to do some work anyway

No reason to get defensive. You claimed you had an important piece of info, all I'm asking is that you provide that lil tidbit.? Hell if you post pictures of you guys hanging out that will suffice.? Point is, we get a hundred people every year claiming to have some piece of information and then "hold it over our heads"? in order to earn some respect/attention.? If this isn't the case with you (and you can easily prove it isn't) then I'll be the first to thank you for your excellent work.? Until then, don't blame me or anyone else for being skeptical - after all you only have like 10 post on this forum.

pictures will be up on our website in a day or two.  and i'm a mygnrforum.com frequenter... i've never used HTGTH.. not even to post my previous interview responses with Dizzy last semester (but people always copy and paste it over here)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 24, 2006, 11:44:27 PM
and at about that one detail...

no... Dizzy did not say to me explicitly "DO NOT POST THIS ON THE INTERNET!" ...
but- I for one know that some stuff we talked about, including that piece, Dizzy would not want to be posted.

As his friend and now fraternity brother, I'm not gonna post something that might be detrimental in some ways.? I don't wanna get the Diz-man in any trouble (not saying it would but its a possibility)? I wish I could tell you how it's detrimental but well....

but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 24, 2006, 11:53:37 PM
How legit is this anyway?? ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...
I feel the same way. Even if the interview is true, "this is confidential stuff" basically means "off the record", and this guy tells the whole world. I just dont believe that ex members are begging for a reunion. They're having too much success on their own to be begging Axl for a reunion. I've also noticed he's holding back that juicy piece of info that makes him think its coming soon. How convenient.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: RnT on January 24, 2006, 11:56:48 PM
Rock in Rio?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 24, 2006, 11:57:28 PM
How legit is this anyway?? ???

Yeah Im thinking the same thing. I cant buy this "interview" for one reason and one reason only. The fact that Dizzy supposibely says "this is confidential stuff" but then goes on to talk about the confidential stuff is completely out there. Diz wouldn't do something like that...
I feel the same way. Even if the interview is true, "this is confidential stuff" basically means "off the record", and this guy tells the whole world. I just dont believe that ex members are begging for a reunion. They're having too much success on their own to be begging Axl for a reunion. I've also noticed he's holding back that juicy piece of info that makes him think its coming soon. How convenient.

Well, I have to disagree with you for the simple fact that a reunion with Axl would make Duff and Slash a hell of a lot more money than VR is.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: $$$$ on January 24, 2006, 11:58:48 PM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.
So when this event happens will we be well aware of it? like "okay so this is what madagascar88 was talking about" or is it something not obvious?

And thanks for the interview! : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: RnT on January 24, 2006, 11:58:56 PM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 25, 2006, 12:00:40 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

He's waiting because he doesn't want to be the first one to let the cat out of the bag.  It will speak for itself when it happens. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 25, 2006, 12:01:01 AM
I think the juicy info/what dizzy said was this .. "If my phone rings next week and I look on the call display and see it's axl calling then man , that means somethings up!! Then I wont have to hang out with washed up , drug addicted 80's rockers and be in a cover band while telling everyone I am a member of Guns N Roses , I'll actually BE in Guns N Roses again , so if you are gunna print this , Axl , it's me dizzy , please call next week."

Yup. That was it.

If not someone will copy and paste it from mygnrforum when it does get posted.

Even better , maybe dizzy will sell the info on ebay!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 25, 2006, 12:01:46 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.? It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 12:06:03 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.? It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.
If you're keeping it to yourself, then why did you mention it in the first place?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 25, 2006, 12:06:21 AM
Members have been called in for a meeting with axl and/or managment to discuss severance pay?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 25, 2006, 12:06:43 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy.  Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

attention....

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.  It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.
If you're keeping it to yourself, then why did you mention it in the first place?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 25, 2006, 12:07:38 AM
Hmmm , maybe they are meeting with Mysteron to discuss when and how to organize the street teams!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on January 25, 2006, 12:13:54 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.? It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.

If you're referig to the superbowl (only big public even I know of in the near future) that won't be for 2 weeks, February 5th to be exact.  Not stating you claim it's the super bowl that you're hiding, just point out a possible error.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 25, 2006, 12:16:13 AM
I'm thinking fortus wife may be going out for the weekend so fortus called in the gnr members to help him babysit .. maybe they'll discuss whats happenin then?!  ???

so many possibilities.  :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 25, 2006, 12:19:50 AM
Could it be Axl's birthday bash......


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: RnT on January 25, 2006, 12:30:24 AM
Could it be Axl's birthday bash......

I totally forgot about Axl's birthday
let me guess... Dizzy invited the guy to go with him to axl?s party and then he will do himself the big question to the redhead

good luck on that one dude ;D

if you don?t get any answers, cut the stereo?s wire and run like hell... at least you will have a funny story to tell your kids  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 25, 2006, 12:32:47 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.? It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.
If you're keeping it to yourself, then why did you mention it in the first place?

this is getting ridiculous. I mentioned it because I thought I'd give you guys reason to believe Chinese Democracy is coming out very soon- hows that?  end of topic.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Spirit on January 25, 2006, 12:34:02 AM


but about that piece... it's about an event that will happen in the near future- when it does occur (and it will)- it could be directly related to the coming release of Chinese Democracy. ?Dizzy is hopeful that that is what this event is directed towards.

this is that thing that you said that you will wait one week to let us know?
why wait this week then?

why on earth would I let you know in a week??? jesus... i'll put it down in laymans terms... Dizzy is participating in some event within a week ok? I will not be within a thousand miles of him when this event occurs so I will not know anything of what it produced.? It is what this event is and more importantly whose participating in said event that I'm keeping to myself.
If you're keeping it to yourself, then why did you mention it in the first place?

this is getting ridiculous. I mentioned it because I thought I'd give you guys reason to believe Chinese Democracy is coming out very soon- hows that?? end of topic.

hmm.. I'm guessing march


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Chief on January 25, 2006, 12:34:52 AM
Madagascar88 - I for one, and probably a million other people would LOVE to read the rest of the interview. hope you post it man, thanks!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 25, 2006, 12:56:48 AM
Madagascar88 - I for one, and probably a million other people would LOVE to read the rest of the interview. hope you post it man, thanks!!!

what everyone has to realize is that everything I'm typing is a paraphrase... even the things I included as the official interview are paraphrased to some extent... I didn't type exactly what I saw from the video recording because well... that'd take a lot longer.  so... although I used the word 'confidential'- that may not be the word that Dizzy actually used... he certainly conveyed it to me that he should not have been discussing that topic.  But, that detail I didn't feel would incriminate Dizzy in any way and so therefore should be reported to the fans.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 01:10:38 AM
Madagascar88 - I for one, and probably a million other people would LOVE to read the rest of the interview. hope you post it man, thanks!!!

what everyone has to realize is that everything I'm typing is a paraphrase... even the things I included as the official interview are paraphrased to some extent... I didn't type exactly what I saw from the video recording because well... that'd take a lot longer.? so... although I used the word 'confidential'- that may not be the word that Dizzy actually used... he certainly conveyed it to me that he should not have been discussing that topic.? But, that detail I didn't feel would incriminate Dizzy in any way and so therefore should be reported to the fans.


Im just gonna go ask him on his myspace..... ill just ask him "So whats the big event your attending in a week that makes you hope that CD is gonna be out soon".... Ill just tell him that i heard about it from the Cornell student..... maybe its not as big a secret as you think it is.... he may just come out and tell me.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Chief on January 25, 2006, 01:36:16 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.  i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!


Madagascar88 - I for one, and probably a million other people would LOVE to read the rest of the interview. hope you post it man, thanks!!!

what everyone has to realize is that everything I'm typing is a paraphrase... even the things I included as the official interview are paraphrased to some extent... I didn't type exactly what I saw from the video recording because well... that'd take a lot longer.  so... although I used the word 'confidential'- that may not be the word that Dizzy actually used... he certainly conveyed it to me that he should not have been discussing that topic.  But, that detail I didn't feel would incriminate Dizzy in any way and so therefore should be reported to the fans.


Im just gonna go ask him on his myspace..... ill just ask him "So whats the big event your attending in a week that makes you hope that CD is gonna be out soon".... Ill just tell him that i heard about it from the Cornell student..... maybe its not as big a secret as you think it is.... he may just come out and tell me.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 25, 2006, 01:41:52 AM
You guys are being dicks.

At least wait till we have the whole interview before you flame him  : ok:

No but in all seriousness this guy is just trying to help us out. Cut him some slack


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 01:42:09 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.? i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self... ?coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 25, 2006, 01:54:55 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.? i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self... ?coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...

if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already contacted me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 01:59:40 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.? i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self... ?coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...

if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already emailed me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.

your reputation and integrity?? your the jack ass who posted it on the internet for anyone in the world to see... then you drop some "hints" or "secrets" that your "in the know" on something and when anyone tries to verify your story you get upset???  lol... some reputation and integrity...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 25, 2006, 02:01:00 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.  i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self...  coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...

if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already contacted me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.

Jesus Christ.. you guys couldn't honestly just let him finish transcribing the interview before you flamed him? Damned if you do, damned if ya dont apparently Madagascar  :no:. Hope you post the rest.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 02:04:38 AM
if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already emailed me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.
Another convenient response. You're just stringing us along. In one of your previous posts you said 'end of topic'. Obviously, you had no intentions of ending it, so you continue to get your rocks off by getting everyone's hopes up. Go back to mygnr. Or here's some better advice: take a long walk off a short pier.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 02:07:20 AM
if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already emailed me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.
Another convenient response. You're just stringing us along. In one of your previous posts you said 'end of topic'. Obviously, you had no intentions of ending it, so you continue to get your rocks off by getting everyone's hopes up. Go back to mygnr. Or here's some better advice: take a long walk off a short pier.

LOL....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 25, 2006, 02:07:29 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.  i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self...  coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...

if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already emailed me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.

your reputation and integrity?? your the jack ass who posted it on the internet for anyone in the world to see... then you drop some "hints" or "secrets" that your "in the know" on something and when anyone tries to verify your story you get upset???  lol... some reputation and integrity...

I'm getting fed up with all this myself , I think I'm gunna call Axl's cellphone (thanks for his number whichever madden brother it was who came and cleaned my pool yesterday!) , I'm calling him and getting all this cleared up right away .. and fuck it , I'm gunna force a release date confirmation from him too.

No , wait , fuck it .. thats a long distance call. Damn it all to hell!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 25, 2006, 02:36:12 AM
From what Maddie88 is saying, I would guess that Axl will some kind of televised public appearence. The mere fact that he is out and about in a way so uncommon for the guy would lead credence to Axl's prediction about 2006.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 02:46:47 AM
From what Maddie88 is saying, I would guess that Axl will some kind of televised public appearence. The mere fact that he is out and about in a way so uncommon for the guy would lead credence to Axl's prediction about 2006.
stop speculating and believing what this guy's saying and he just might go away. You guys knew this kind of shit would happen once Axl showed himself to the public again, and unfortunately we fell for it.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 25, 2006, 03:16:01 AM
How well known is this Maddie guy? Is anyone preapred to vouch for him?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 03:23:16 AM
How well known is this Maddie guy? Is anyone preapred to vouch for him?
I vaguely remember him having some sort of contact with Dizzy in the past, but that doesn't mean this is kosher. Something doesn't add up here, its obvious. I cant believe I'm gonna do this, but all options have run out..

(turning on mysteron/Batman signal)  MYSTERON!!  WE NEED YOU!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Megaguns on January 25, 2006, 03:25:37 AM
Part I (part II is on page 5)


What are your views/opinions on Velvet Revolver?

"I think that their t-shirts are cool."

[
WHAT A FUCK WIT!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Walapino on January 25, 2006, 03:38:48 AM
I demand da presence of Aunt Ger!  ;)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonx on January 25, 2006, 03:41:59 AM
Axl will probably show up at the Grammys or something, just to get out in public again!

Jonx


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 25, 2006, 03:44:40 AM
Axl will probably show up at the Grammys or something, just to get out in public again!

Jonx

that would be a great move and enhance the buzz
when are the grammys? why not present an award

its amazing the press and buzz Axl/GNR can generate just by showing his face

I strongly believe CD will sell itself with little to no promotion and what we've seen recently further bolsters my claim


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: providman on January 25, 2006, 03:45:09 AM
Blah blah blah blah fucking blah. Tommy says this. Merck says that. Fortus says this. Dizzy says that.
Blah blah blah blah blah. He says this axl says that beltrami says this mysteron says that some douchbag
says this some asshole says that, and thats all it's been for years and years and years.
Thats all it ever is with this band - he said this & he said that This shit never ever ends, I don't give a fuck what axl, tommy, fortus, dizzy, merck, beltrami, ross halfin, whoever the fuck else, I don't give a fuck what they say. Mark my words, 1 year from today, January 25, 2007, there will still be no album. But there will be no shortage of dopes & nitwits arguing amongst themselves about whatever the latest piece of vague, evasive, bullshit piece of info whoever spouted means. No disrespect intended to the non dopes & nitwits here : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 25, 2006, 03:47:54 AM
Blah blah blah blah fucking blah. Tommy says this. Merck says that. Fortus says this. Dizzy says that.
Blah blah blah blah blah. He says this axl says that beltrami says this mysteron says that some douchbag
says this some asshole says that, and thats all it's been for years and years and years.
Thats all it ever is with this band - he said this & he said that This shit never ever ends, I don't give a fuck what axl, tommy, fortus, dizzy, merck, beltrami, ross halfin, whoever the fuck else, I don't give a fuck what they say. Mark my words, 1 year from today, January 25, 2007, there will still be no album. But there will be no shortage of dopes & nitwits arguing amongst themselves about whatever the latest piece of vague, evasive, bullshit piece of info whoever spouted means.

I feel your pain man  :hihi:

well put, it's nice to see rage and supposed 'negativity' or ' hating' being done in an original and entertaining way  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonx on January 25, 2006, 03:50:53 AM
Axl will probably show up at the Grammys or something, just to get out in public again!

Jonx

that would be a great move and enhance the buzz
when are the grammys? why not present an award

its amazing the press and buzz Axl/GNR can generate just by showing his face

I strongly believe CD will sell itself with little to no promotion and what we've seen recently further bolsters my claim

Early Feb i think, it would make sense to show himself again, maybe with his girl! I agree with you that CD will sell regardless, although its still going to get alot of negative reviews. I think hes left it too long!

The fact still remains that despite everything that has happened in the past week we still have no idea what is truely going on. All we can do is carry on speculating just like we have done for the past 13 years! Nothing has really changed, Axl came out and managed to tell us so much but at the same time tell us so little!

Heres to more waiting :beer:

Jonx


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rocky on January 25, 2006, 04:07:26 AM
How well known is this Maddie guy? Is anyone preapred to vouch for him?

Like he said earlier, he posts at mygnrforum mainly, not here.? He has over 400 posts there and is a regular poster.? He has also been talking about this interview for quite some time,if you look on this board and mygnrforum you will see several posts about it.?

I know being a GNR fan means getting loads and loads of false information, but before we start slamming people just do 5 minutes of research to see if the person spreading it is legit.? Madagascar88 is very legit, as is this interview.? Now thanks to some people here being dicks to him he might not feel like posting the rest of the interview.? Here's some advice, If you don't believe what he's saying, Don't read it.? Don't post on this thread.? That way the rest of us can read the rest of this great interview.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 25, 2006, 04:15:19 AM
The fact he posts at mygnr pretty much sums it up.

This looks really dodgy, especially the part about the former GN'R offering a reunion etc.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: lastroots on January 25, 2006, 04:57:08 AM
Oh man, I just can't believe what some people on here are just doing. What has this damn wait made of you? Why bash him all the time? Where is the point? Why can't you just wait until he typed up the whole thing and be thankful?

I mean, come on, if it tzurns out not to be true later on, you still can complain, but at the moment, he is just a nice guy sharing some info. And all you do is bitching....

I really understand the frustration some of you have and I'm frustrated as well from time to time, especially because of so many bs rumours we get all the time, but hey, can't you keep your frustration to yourself?

Madagascar88, people on here have become nuts over the last few years, don't take it too personal.

Damn, I can imagine this: CD comes out, posters from HTGTH go to a record store, hold it in their hands, look at the retail-guy and go: "Hey you dumbfuck, why you foolin' me? Making me think I could buy Chinese Democracy? Nobody can buy Chinese Democracy. I'm holding it in my hands, n' that's the proof - must be bullshit."

Poster goes home, bought what he thinks is a fake, puts it in CD-Player, listens, thinks: "Fuck, these fakes get better and better everyday. But I won't be fooled!"

I'm not saying this interview is real, but I am also not saying it is not real. I don't know. And because I don't know I don't bitch about it. I just sit back and enjoy. Can't you guys do the same? Is that so hard?

Enough ranting for today.....

/lastroots


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dont Try Me on January 25, 2006, 05:55:29 AM
Oh man, I just can't believe what some people on here are just doing. What has this damn wait made of you? Why bash him all the time? Where is the point? Why can't you just wait until he typed up the whole thing and be thankful?

I mean, come on, if it tzurns out not to be true later on, you still can complain, but at the moment, he is just a nice guy sharing some info. And all you do is bitching....

I really understand the frustration some of you have and I'm frustrated as well from time to time, especially because of so many bs rumours we get all the time, but hey, can't you keep your frustration to yourself?

Madagascar88, people on here have become nuts over the last few years, don't take it too personal.

Damn, I can imagine this: CD comes out, posters from HTGTH go to a record store, hold it in their hands, look at the retail-guy and go: "Hey you dumbfuck, why you foolin' me? Making me think I could buy Chinese Democracy? Nobody can buy Chinese Democracy. I'm holding it in my hands, n' that's the proof - must be bullshit."

Poster goes home, bought what he thinks is a fake, puts it in CD-Player, listens, thinks: "Fuck, these fakes get better and better everyday. But I won't be fooled!"

I'm not saying this interview is real, but I am also not saying it is not real. I don't know. And because I don't know I don't bitch about it. I just sit back and enjoy. Can't you guys do the same? Is that so hard?

Enough ranting for today.....

/lastroots

amen, the example is hilarious.  ;D




Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: coolman78SLASH on January 25, 2006, 06:07:01 AM
I understand you guys, but dont kill the messenger ! I would love to read part 3, so why piss the dude off and make him not post it?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Hammy on January 25, 2006, 06:18:42 AM
Hey guys,
Dizzy Reed's coming to visit my university this weekend and spend three days here. Please post all questions you might have for him either here or at the mygnrforum.com thread I created.

Around Sunday, Jan. 22nd, 9pm U.S. Eastern Time- I'll approach Dizzy with some of these questions and hopefully, he will answer some of those questions.  A post with Q/A will be made at mygnrforum.com at that time.

Keep the questions flowing and please don't post anything redundant or too probing/insulting in nature.

-Dennis

Why doesn't someone (not me...) swing by mygnrforum.com to get the 3rd part if your so bothered......

.....or did they flame him to?

....By newbie standards he's an improvement.......since he signed up here in November 2004 ::)

....And if he is making it up, IF, then well he's got problems, wasting his time typing this stuff out and posting in advance with the post i quoted......

.....if it is fake, then these guys are getting better, but i guess after all these years, practice makes perfect....well he's not that good, but still

anyway.....anybody swung by mygnr yet?

eh?

.... :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 06:23:51 AM
I understand you guys, but dont kill the messenger ! I would love to read part 3, so why piss the dude off and make him not post it?
Dont you get it? He never planned on posting part 3. Also, if he were serious, and had any integrity, the story would have started with this "inside info" that he had, instead of just dangling the carrot in front of us, and then refusing to give that carrot when a few people got skeptical, which is a reaction he knew this "interview" would get.

By the way Stoned, I did go to mygnr, and those people are falling for this hook, line, and sinker.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on January 25, 2006, 06:24:35 AM
FRAT BOYS !!! ahahahahha !!!! chaaaa !!! ;)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Hammy on January 25, 2006, 06:26:22 AM
By the way Stoned, I did go to mygnr, and those people are falling for this hook, line, and sinker.
Is he dangling them the part 3 carrott as well.....

....are they patiently waiting for something they'll never get?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 06:29:48 AM
By the way Stoned, I did go to mygnr, and those people are falling for this hook, line, and sinker.
Is he dangling them the part 3 carrott as well.....

....are they patiently waiting for something they'll never get?
Does a bear shit in the woods? :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Hammy on January 25, 2006, 06:32:39 AM
By the way Stoned, I did go to mygnr, and those people are falling for this hook, line, and sinker.
Is he dangling them the part 3 carrott as well.....

....are they patiently waiting for something they'll never get?
Does a bear shit in the woods? :hihi:
Awesome! Now that's all cleared up i can crawl back to the wrestling thread.....

.....damn mygnr people....

.....enticing me out of my hole at the bottom of this board

*shakes fist*

.... :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ARC on January 25, 2006, 07:04:38 AM
Madagascar88 is telling the truth. He's posted a good, reliable interview with Dizzy before (MYGNR)- this isn't bullshit.

Now, because some of you idiots want to act paranoid, we won't get to see the rest of the interview.

Well done, HTGTH.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 07:20:13 AM
Well done, HTGTH.
Well done, indeed. If he wanted to be taken seriously, he should have posted it all in one segment, not have gotten defensive at the first sign of someone not licking his ass, and he shouldn't have dangled "inside info" in front of our faces. Oh well, what are you worried about? He can go post at mygnr and you guys can mindmeld with the "inside info" in part 3.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 25, 2006, 09:00:50 AM
First off, Madagascar88 you have to realize that us GnR fans are the most skeptical bunch in the world. And it is kinda suspicious that Dizzy would go from a bunch of soons and maybe's to telling you that Duff and Slash and Steven are begging for a reunion, also that he would tell you to keep an eye out for some kind of top secret announcement. No GnR member has ever talked so candidly about CD thus far and those comments about Steven, Matt, Slash, Izzy are pretty bad, to tell to just some stranger IMO. But hey he may have well said them all, who can say what one will spew from his mouth while under the influence huh? :hihi:

Secondly, Are you typing the interview from memory? Tape recorder? Did you take notes at it?

Thirdly, can you please post the rest, I am another who wouldn't mind reading what Dizzy had to say.

And what Axl says correspond to what Tommy says.
Someone have to take the charge. Like  Jimmy Page did to Led zeppelin, for instance. So why not the captain of GNR?

True, true but, there is a slight difference taking charge and running the show. I'm thinking the album will be about 85-90% Axl and 10-15% the rest of the band. Those are by no means real #'s but just my opinion on what the music credits may look like. Axl scatched and clawed to get sole control of GnR, I highly doubt he would hand out peices of it out like it was a Christmas present of "Dogs and Suds Secret Sauce" :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 25, 2006, 09:12:55 AM
Quote
True, true but, there is a slight difference taking charge and running the show. I'm thinking the album will be about 85-90% Axl and 10-15% the rest of the band. Those are by no means real #'s but just my opinion on what the music credits may look like. Axl scatched and clawed to get sole control of GnR, I highly doubt he would hand out peices of it out like it was a Christmas present of "Dogs and Suds Secret Sauce"

serious?      from what we know it?s pretty safe to say that it`s nearly the other way around.... it`s called a "collaborative effort".


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 25, 2006, 09:27:36 AM
No...no...no...You can bet your ass Axl will have a large majority of the songwriting credits. His money invested, his money will be recouped.  ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 25, 2006, 09:30:32 AM
Madagascar88 is telling the truth. He's posted a good, reliable interview with Dizzy before (MYGNR)- this isn't bullshit.

Now, because some of you idiots want to act paranoid, we won't get to see the rest of the interview.

Well done, HTGTH.

People act the way they do with good reason. Some of the stuff this guys is saying Dizz said just dont add up to what he normally says. And to dangle a little "info" like hes doing totally reeks of attention seeking ala madison with her "axl told me the fist single" thing.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 25, 2006, 09:32:26 AM
why do that? don't worry about it.. just let things happen as they are going to happen.
The more info that we get the better.? i don't get all the bashers, i mean at least check out the full interview before saying anything...Jeez!!!

too late.... ill let u know if i get a reply... there is no need for all the secrecy.. its not like getting ahold of Dizzy Reed or any of the members less axl is that hard to do... they all have email addresses or myspace accounts... im not bashing.. im just gonna find out my self... ?coz its prob not as "secret" as some college student wishes it was...

if I get an email/call from Dizzy over this- I'm pulling the plug on the rest of the interview. He's already contacted me over the script and I don't want to hurt my reputation & integrity any further.

Reputation? Who are you, Kurt Loder? ?:hihi:

If Dizzy knew he was doing an interview, why would this be a problem? Maybe you should not have paraphrased it since it obviously mis interpreted what Dizzy said , yeah Id be pissed to if I was mis quoted. If you are going to post a real interview you should accurately quote your source.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 25, 2006, 09:33:50 AM
It's just silly and attention seeking. If I came across some GN'R stuff I couldn't wait to share it with the fans. Instead this poster has their own interests which is to seek attention, before anything else.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 25, 2006, 09:34:39 AM
Quote
True, true but, there is a slight difference taking charge and running the show. I'm thinking the album will be about 85-90% Axl and 10-15% the rest of the band. Those are by no means real #'s but just my opinion on what the music credits may look like. Axl scatched and clawed to get sole control of GnR, I highly doubt he would hand out peices of it out like it was a Christmas present of "Dogs and Suds Secret Sauce"

serious?? ? ? from what we know it?s pretty safe to say that it`s nearly the other way around.... it`s called a "collaborative effort".

Yeah see my posts from yesterday about this "collaboration" (pages 2-5) They are just my opinions but feel free to comment :beer:

BTW if you think Axl is only responsible for 10-15% of this upcoming album....then dude, you need to lay of the drugs. seriously man


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on January 25, 2006, 09:55:01 AM
Madagascar88 is telling the truth. He's posted a good, reliable interview with Dizzy before (MYGNR)- this isn't bullshit.

Now, because some of you idiots want to act paranoid, we won't get to see the rest of the interview.

Well done, HTGTH.

Now thats just too damn bad now isn't it?? If this guy is right, we'll find out in a week anyway.? And who on this thread was acting paranoid?? It's called being realistic.? Thats why I enjoy this board.

Well done HTGTH.




Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 25, 2006, 10:36:54 AM
Who SERIOUSLY gives a fuck about what Dizzy Reed said to that guy ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 25, 2006, 11:34:42 AM
hey, until you can actually proove that this madagascar88 is a fake, then shut the fuck up!

I'm actually surprised Jarmo hasen't done anything about this to shut some of you bashers up...??

If you don't believe this or find it interesting SHUT THE FUCK UP GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!, go post somewhere else, atention seekers... :-* :rant:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 25, 2006, 11:39:08 AM
its def a real interview...but why act all gay with the wait until next week until I tell you why youll get excited again. Fuk that. Its a ll games. And pathetic. Either say it or dont bring it up at all. Dont be a dick about it. Its annoying.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 25, 2006, 12:52:15 PM
Well, this thread has taken a violent turn.  ;D

Also, madagascar88 has seem to be missing.  :yes:

Just, some random observations.  :o


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 25, 2006, 01:01:42 PM
its def a real interview...but why act all gay with the wait until next week until I tell you why youll get excited again. Fuk that. Its a ll games. And pathetic. Either say it or dont bring it up at all. Dont be a dick about it. Its annoying.

I agree. If you don't think it is legit, then state your opinion and move on. Harping on a poster makes the forum look mean spirited.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Cornell on January 25, 2006, 01:08:05 PM
Well, this thread has taken a violent turn.? ;D

Also, madagascar88 has seem to be missing.? :yes:

Just, some random observations.? :o

He's not missing - He PM'd me.

I can vouch for him being a Cornell student and that Dizzy was at Cornell.

After all - I AM Cornell.  :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WAR41 on January 25, 2006, 01:37:52 PM
Madagascar88, don't worry man.  People didnt believe me that I sang onstage with a GNR tribute band (who Dizzy opened the show for and play two songs with onstage) on Halloween because I was dressed up as the new Axl.  I think people here still dont believe me actually.  But whatever, the shit was fun as hell and I talked to Dizzy at his merch table for about 30 seconds before I left.  I am sure you had a great experience. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 25, 2006, 02:32:41 PM
All you guys who don't believe this and are bashing him, are fucking it up for everyone.  If you really don't believe the guy, then don't come to this thread and post.  Leave us believers to ourselves.  And for that one person who emailed Dizzy on myspace, sweet move : ok: :rant:  Have a little fuckin patience.

You people seriously can't wait one damn week to see if this is true or not? 

Like I said earlier, if you don't believe this guy, then DONT POST HERE!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 25, 2006, 02:46:56 PM
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True, true but, there is a slight difference taking charge and running the show. I'm thinking the album will be about 85-90% Axl and 10-15% the rest of the band. Those are by no means real #'s but just my opinion on what the music credits may look like. Axl scatched and clawed to get sole control of GnR, I highly doubt he would hand out peices of it out like it was a Christmas present of "Dogs and Suds Secret Sauce"

serious?      from what we know it?s pretty safe to say that it`s nearly the other way around.... it`s called a "collaborative effort".

Yeah see my posts from yesterday about this "collaboration" (pages 2-5) They are just my opinions but feel free to comment :beer:

BTW if you think Axl is only responsible for 10-15% of this upcoming album....then dude, you need to lay of the drugs. seriously man

calm down dude :no:

i don`t think this is something like an "axl solo project". he may wrote some songs and some parts and the lyrics of course. but the rest was written by the band. axl isn`t really into writing songs i guess.... by the way i`m happy about every song axl writes....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: F*ck Fear on January 25, 2006, 02:54:37 PM
Madagascar88
Fuck the people who say shit...It's the internet for fuck sakes dude.
I for one am interested in hearing the rest of what you've got to say.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 25, 2006, 03:09:53 PM
calm down dude :no:

i don`t think this is something like an "axl solo project". he may wrote some songs and some parts and the lyrics of course. but the rest was written by the band. axl isn`t really into writing songs i guess.... by the way i`m happy about every song axl writes....

I'm calm. :hihi: are my posts that bad that people think I'm pissed off allt the time or something? ;D I'm not, I guess I'm just misunderstood. :'( :peace:

Axl has wrote lots of songs without his old bandmates, November Rain, The Garden, Dead Horse, Yesterdays, Breakdown, Shotgun Blues, Estranged & My World from the Illusion Records, before that all credits went to "Guns N Roses" not individuals so it's harder to track back then. The lawsuit for royalties stated that Axl was responsible for like 40% or something of all the song writing way back then. I just think you can expect much higher numbers for this upcoming album. It will be very Axl driven IMHO.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 25, 2006, 03:15:42 PM
Quote
True, true but, there is a slight difference taking charge and running the show. I'm thinking the album will be about 85-90% Axl and 10-15% the rest of the band. Those are by no means real #'s but just my opinion on what the music credits may look like. Axl scatched and clawed to get sole control of GnR, I highly doubt he would hand out peices of it out like it was a Christmas present of "Dogs and Suds Secret Sauce"

serious?      from what we know it?s pretty safe to say that it`s nearly the other way around.... it`s called a "collaborative effort".

Yeah see my posts from yesterday about this "collaboration" (pages 2-5) They are just my opinions but feel free to comment :beer:

BTW if you think Axl is only responsible for 10-15% of this upcoming album....then dude, you need to lay of the drugs. seriously man

calm down dude :no:

i don`t think this is something like an "axl solo project". he may wrote some songs and some parts and the lyrics of course. but the rest was written by the band. axl isn`t really into writing songs i guess.... by the way i`m happy about every song axl writes....
I'm with you warose.

Neemo, My point is that this band is, in its own right, no less a genuine band than any other band ever existed. Apparently they get on well with each other personally, not to mention musically.. I'm positive that each member of the band contributes and dedicate to the band as much as any band animal does to their band....... save for Axl.

The thing is just that the leader is not like other band front men. He not only being a sole lyric writer has served concurrently as a producer, a manager, an A&Rman and many other things while other bands entrust these chores to professionals outside the band.
Well you long term fans may see it as an Axl project because your interests are only Axl. But to complete the project, this band has to be Guns n Roses. That is Chinese Democracy.

Axl Rose: " There's a lot of things that? we come up with new ideas that we're working on as we go, and it is a really, really slow process, because it's kind of left more to ourselves in trying to figure it our where? What I've seen in this industry is that, if a record company? I don't know. There seems to be a lot more support for getting things done with newer bands, and it's got a lot to do with contracts being, you know, they don't have to spend as much money on the band, and they're trying to get it out there, and the next thing you know, they've sold a couple of albums and then they don't care about that band anymore and they move on and that band falls apart. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of support for bands that have been around. That's my experience. So in putting this thing together, in a lot of ways, I've had to do way more jobs in it than I'm supposed to ? I've had to be manager, A&R man, producer, sole lyric writer, and a lot of [other] things, where GUNS N' ROSES, to me, what I worked really hard at was making it a collaborative effort, and it was a lot of people involved. This is a collaborative effort with the players, but the players aren't exactly sure what it should be to try to win over the world GUNS N' ROSES style. So that's kind of my responsibility. It took a long time, but now it's working, and I think we'll have the right record, and when we do drop the record, the plan is to drop the record, have a bunch of extra tracks, about a year or so down the road drop another record and drop a third record. This is a three-stage thing and we'll be touring for a real long time." - from  101 WRIF radio interview, Nov. 21 2002
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=581


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 25, 2006, 03:22:24 PM
WARose/ppbebe I'm not saying it is not a genuine band, hmmmmm

here lets take a old GnR song

November Rain, Axl's baby. He wrote the whole bloody thing, arranged the orchestra on his computer and all that shit (or so i recall reading) of course Duff Did the bass parts and Slash played solos and Matt played drums, but it's Axl's song. With the piano and beat layed down all Sorum would've had to do is mimic it and add a bit of his own artistic flair, same with the Izzy and Slash on rhythm guitar and Duff on Bass. Dizzy just plays what Axl does. Then Slash goes back over it and adds a couple Solos. (It's not hard to lay a solo on a song if you know what you are doing, and i think we can all agree that Slash knows what he's doing when it comes to guitars, solo's kick ass but they don't make songs.) BAM!! there is the finished NR.

But who wrote it?

Yes of course Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Dizzy all contributed to it but Axl wrote the motherfucker.

PS i heard that Interview live BTW  :beer: I happened to be driving through Detroit at the time


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 25, 2006, 03:28:20 PM
Ok i agree I might have been a little high on the 85%/15% bit, but I seriously think it'll be close to that ratio. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Axl gets sole song writing credits on more than half the songs.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 25, 2006, 03:30:55 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Axl gets sole song writing credits on more than half the songs.
I would.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 25, 2006, 03:48:51 PM
This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 25, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Axl gets sole song writing credits on more than half the songs.
I would.

me, too.  well  let the point alone, that axl said numerous times that it`s a collaborative effort. and he can`t release a new gnr record on which half of the songs are written by him , without having the media bitching about a solo record etc....



and well    i guess you can`t compare the old band?s writing style to the new ones. not that i`d know what`s going on, from what we`ve heard it`s really different. didn?t axl/dizzy/tommy say in an interview some years ago that they were colllecting ideas, first and then saved them and after that started to built songs out of it?        well   i hope we`ll see who wrote what, soon, but until then i`ll believe that it`s a real collaborative effort. ppbebe  do you have some more quotes?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 25, 2006, 04:19:15 PM
This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.

No, I think you're a fake  :drool:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 25, 2006, 04:20:57 PM
This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.

No, I think you're a fake? :drool:
Feel free to look stupid. : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 25, 2006, 04:53:41 PM
 No To GN'R Re-union
Written by Administrator   
Wednesday, 25 January 2006

Merck Mercuriadis has told Splat that there is 'no truth' to recent news reports stating that Axl wants to reform the original line-up of GN'R (a story that has somehow evolved from the recent Rolling Stone story).

There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

anyone else post this already from the ol sp1at?

I heard this Merck guy is really "in the know"


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 25, 2006, 05:02:01 PM
Thanks rainX : ok:

The first part was believable IMO.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 25, 2006, 05:02:53 PM
So does that mean that this entire interview is no longer valid?

Because if it is, then I think that Madagascar88 should be banned. He should never be allowed to post here again.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 25, 2006, 05:04:51 PM
So does that mean that this entire interview is no longer valid?

If it means that, then Chinese Democracy also came out in 2005.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 25, 2006, 05:18:06 PM
No To GN'R Re-union
Written by Administrator? ?
Wednesday, 25 January 2006

Merck Mercuriadis has told Splat that there is 'no truth' to recent news reports stating that Axl wants to reform the original line-up of GN'R (a story that has somehow evolved from the recent Rolling Stone story).

There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

anyone else post this already from the ol sp1at?

I heard this Merck guy is really "in the know"

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  Is this a joke?  So splat knows who this kid is and that he goes to Cornell and is Zeta Psi fraternity.  Is Splat in the FBI?  :hihi:  This whole thing is getting rediculas, and has splat ever had reliable news?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 25, 2006, 05:35:32 PM
No To GN'R Re-union
Written by Administrator   
Wednesday, 25 January 2006

Merck Mercuriadis has told Splat that there is 'no truth' to recent news reports stating that Axl wants to reform the original line-up of GN'R (a story that has somehow evolved from the recent Rolling Stone story).

There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

anyone else post this already from the ol sp1at?

I heard this Merck guy is really "in the know"

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  Is this a joke?  So splat knows who this kid is and that he goes to Cornell and is Zeta Psi fraternity.  Is Splat in the FBI?  :hihi:  This whole thing is getting rediculas, and has splat ever had reliable news?

What? Sp1at is like the CNN of the GNR world.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jazjme on January 25, 2006, 05:57:15 PM
yer, that and they control the mpa, along with the underground railroad. lol

Now things are getting rediculous.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 25, 2006, 06:10:31 PM
Yeah, splat are the Woodward and Bernstein of useless GnR rumor mongering.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 25, 2006, 06:41:57 PM
No it doesn't mean the whole Axl interview was a fake or isn't true.. just the way some media twisted it around to make it look like Axl agrees there will be a reunion.

Merck makes it sound like he is acknowledging Dizzy did make the comments but they are untrue?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Crashdiet on January 25, 2006, 07:05:36 PM
why is everyone giving this kid a hard time. why is it so hard to believe that he hung out with dizzy for a couple hours. Maybe dizzy had a couple drinks and got loose tongued...

I for one would have really enjoyed reading the other half of the interview.... way to be a bunch of wankers and piss the kid off :rant:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 25, 2006, 07:15:09 PM
Quote
Merck makes it sound like he is acknowledging Dizzy did make the comments but they are untrue?

Or rather the particular comment is untrue? GDU.

Quote
Now things are getting rediculous.

Now? Naa, they were getting ridiculous when some ppl started to twist Axls comment.  :rofl:
Likewise 88 guy must have misinterpreted something.

me, too.  well  let the point alone, that axl said numerous times that it`s a collaborative effort. and he can`t release a new gnr record on which half of the songs are written by him , without having the media bitching about a solo record etc....



and well    i guess you can`t compare the old band?s writing style to the new ones. not that i`d know what`s going on, from what we`ve heard it`s really different. didn?t axl/dizzy/tommy say in an interview some years ago that they were colllecting ideas, first and then saved them and after that started to built songs out of it?        well   i hope we`ll see who wrote what, soon, but until then i`ll believe that it`s a real collaborative effort. ppbebe  do you have some more quotes?

Just so many...for instance this one, which is not the best one but handy. Keen insight btw. : ok:

After intimating that most of the lyrics and vocals are Axl's, but that he and Dizzy Reed do a lot of the back-up vocals, Tommy states that songwriting-wise, "there'll probably be compositions that started with each of us and were compiled by all of us, on the whole record, yeah. I would be willing to wager that that is how it turns out, because Axl is the kind of guy who is always looking out for the fairest way to do it so everyone's happy. Because obviously, that's the kind of thing that screwed up the old band. Everybody had songs they wanted to write, and have Axl sing, and then there got to be infighting, I think, with whose songs were going to be on the record. He's really conscious of that, so it ends up being a bit of everyone on there."
-Tommy September 2004 bravewords.com
Special Report By Martin Popoff



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 25, 2006, 07:22:22 PM
Dammit, I was just getting into the interview, and it sounds like everybody chased Madagascar88 off.  That's really not cool.  I would have enjoyed Part III.   :(


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 25, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
Quote
Merck makes it sound like he is acknowledging Dizzy did make the comments but they are untrue?

Or rather the particular comment is untrue? GDU.


When why would Dizzy say it then? Just seems so out of character for Dizzy  :-\


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 25, 2006, 07:46:23 PM
Yeah Diz just seems too delibarate in his speech to let slip this kinda gossip. I mean this.

Quote
There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'.

Did Merck say this?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dont Try Me on January 25, 2006, 07:49:15 PM
Dizzy might have said it, he might have not. Sometimes people say things which are to a certain extent true but shouldn't have said it. Or for the wiser, should've kept it for themselves. Sometimes it's the other way around. And sometimes people back eachother up to stand corrected or to clear the past sayings. Bar gossip








 ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Evolution on January 25, 2006, 07:59:53 PM
Dammit, I was just getting into the interview, and it sounds like everybody chased Madagascar88 off.  That's really not cool.  I would have enjoyed Part III.   :(

Same  :no:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ARC on January 25, 2006, 08:06:34 PM
There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

Holy crap, that's creepy.

It show's that they're WATCHING.? :nervous:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 08:27:15 PM
There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

Holy crap, that's creepy.

It show's that they're WATCHING.? :nervous:

It shows that they are BORED... with nothing to do...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 25, 2006, 08:45:50 PM
Quote
Merck makes it sound like he is acknowledging Dizzy did make the comments but they are untrue?

Or rather the particular comment is untrue? GDU.


When why would Dizzy say it then? Just seems so out of character for Dizzy  :-\

Um possibly because he didnt say it lol


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 25, 2006, 08:52:19 PM
I think the whole purpose of this was to get us all riled up. Why would it be posted in 3 parts taking days to do so, then witholdingthe last part when some of us got critical. Is this interview so hard not to believe? Especially when it is paraphrased. Why not quote Dizzy accurately? Less mis interpretation that way. I hope it is legit but the 2nd part kind of made me think this is BS.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 09:03:01 PM
I think the whole purpose of this was to get us all riled up. Why would it be posted in 3 parts taking days to do so, then witholdingthe last part when some of us got critical. Is this interview so hard not to believe? Especially when it is paraphrased. Why not quote Dizzy accurately? Less mis interpretation that way. I hope it is legit but the 2nd part kind of made me think this is BS.

Me too.. did you see how quickly he didnt want to "damage his reputation and integrity".. and he said "anymore than it has been"...

If Dizzy had said that shit he wouldnt have gotten all pissed off and worried when i told him i was gonna ask Dizzy myself..  and the part about "if i get a phone call or email about this" does he really think that Dizzy is gonna call him and say "what the fuck man?"

If he had ANY question about it at all or had any kind of friendship with Dizzy Reed he would have kept his trap shut...  If Dizzy or any friend would tell you something that you know he wouldnt want spread all over the world on the internet they why even hint at it... I think he was full of shit.... I dont belive that shit he made up about Izzy at all... coz all that ive ever heard about Izzy from people who know him or met him have said that Izzy is a cool as fuck mofo....



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 09:05:43 PM
Dammit, I was just getting into the interview, and it sounds like everybody chased Madagascar88 off.? That's really not cool.? I would have enjoyed Part III.? ?:(
Would you like me to whip up a quick Dizzy interview? It'll only take about 5 or 10 minutes for me to write. I promise not to hold back any "inside info", or make you wait for a 3rd installment. :confused:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 09:32:58 PM
Dammit, I was just getting into the interview, and it sounds like everybody chased Madagascar88 off.? That's really not cool.? I would have enjoyed Part III.? ?:(

dont go to mygnrforum looking for it either.. its not there.. i just checked it for curiosity and he hasnt posted it there either...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 25, 2006, 09:41:09 PM
dont go to mygnrforum looking for it either.. its not there.. i just checked it for curiosity and he hasnt posted it there either...

Why not? I thought he was more loved there.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Evolution on January 25, 2006, 09:55:50 PM
I think the whole purpose of this was to get us all riled up.


Some guy, with nothing better to do, constructs a mass Dizzy Reed interview to piss off a few hundred people worldwide  ::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 25, 2006, 10:10:46 PM
Dammit, I was just getting into the interview, and it sounds like everybody chased Madagascar88 off.? That's really not cool.? I would have enjoyed Part III.? ?:(
Would you like me to whip up a quick Dizzy interview? It'll only take about 5 or 10 minutes for me to write. I promise not to hold back any "inside info", or make you wait for a 3rd installment. :confused:

Nah man, if it's not a mygnr exclusive.. then it's not worth the read  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dolphin on January 25, 2006, 10:23:06 PM
All I have to say is Damn.

This thread is harsh!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 25, 2006, 10:49:33 PM
You're all retarded for chasing Madagascar88 off.

Merck just confirms stuff officially - of course there's no plans for a GNR reunion.

Dizzy never said that in the interview, he just said that the ex-band members' agents had been in contact with Axl's management.

It doesn't mean anything came out of it.

Even if this were fake, Dizzy would have contacted Merck or vise-versa and they would have tried to have it removed or at the very least have it discredited.

Until that happens, I believe the interview's real.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 25, 2006, 10:54:50 PM
I agree. It was at least worth archiving for later confirmation. Now Maddie88 is probably pissed as hell. I would be.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 25, 2006, 11:02:13 PM
I think it's really uncalled for and unnecessary the way some people attack someone they don't believe.  Its not like anybody doing the name calling had any facts to back up their position. 

The guy was probably telling the truth, even if he didn't quote exactly or misinterpreted some things Dizzy said.  He's not a professional journalist.  I don't blame him for bailing either.  And its a good thing he didn't say whatever that "bit of info" was.  Some fool would have asked Dizzy about it on myspace and Dizzy will never talk to him again. 

Being the first one to call someone a liar doesn't make you look smart, in case anyone was wondering.  When you don't really know what you are talking about, it just makes you look like an ass.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 11:18:46 PM
The guy was probably telling the truth, even if he didn't quote exactly or misinterpreted some things Dizzy said.? He's not a professional journalist.?
but he did say he had it video taped.. the interview... so there should be no misiterpretation....

And its a good thing he didn't say whatever that "bit of info" was.?
why not just keep it for yourself then??? ding ding ding... suprise!!! coz he never had any "info"

Some fool would have asked Dizzy about it on myspace and Dizzy will never talk to him again.?
then why would he open up his trap on the internet about something that dizzy didnt want him to reveal??? you know why???
again coz there wasnt any info... thats why he bailed out..   Its a free internet.. i can ask dizzy anything i want to ask him.. if dizzy replys then fine.. if he tells me fuck off thats fine too.. but if he wants to tell something  then "some fool" has all the right in the world to try to verify it....


Being the first one to call someone a liar doesn't make you look smart,
being the first one to belive a fans interview stating that the members of VR want a reunion doesnt make you look smart either


in case anyone was wondering.?
i know i wasnt....

When you don't really know what you are talking about, it just makes you look like an ass.
glass house, stones.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 11:21:56 PM
I think it's really uncalled for and unnecessary the way some people attack someone they don't believe.? Its not like anybody doing the name calling had any facts to back up their position.?

The guy was probably telling the truth, even if he didn't quote exactly or misinterpreted some things Dizzy said.? He's not a professional journalist.? I don't blame him for bailing either.? And its a good thing he didn't say whatever that "bit of info" was.? Some fool would have asked Dizzy about it on myspace and Dizzy will never talk to him again.?

Being the first one to call someone a liar doesn't make you look smart, in case anyone was wondering.? When you don't really know what you are talking about, it just makes you look like an ass.
This guy conducted himself in a childish and unprofessional manner with this "interview". It had nothing to do with giving GNR fans any information, it was about having the spotlight on himself, and he was trying to keep that spotlight on for as long as possible. He acted shocked when we all didn't fall in line with his little agenda, but he had to know witholding "inside info" would cause a minor stir. If you'll look back and research Dizzy interviews, you will see that he has never spoken like this before.
 ?Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.
 ?The next time you want to insult me or one of the other people here for not falling for this hook, line, and sinker, go read a book on ethics, or take a journalism class.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 25, 2006, 11:26:29 PM
Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.

You're acting like this interview was published or something.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 25, 2006, 11:27:12 PM
I'll be the FIRST asshole to just come out and say it , burn me afterwards if you like ... for me personally , if Dizzy didnt say in "part 3" of this interview when Democracy was coming out then I really dont care what he has to say.

Thats pretty selfish I know , but thats just how I feel.

Flame away.  :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 11:30:30 PM
I'll be the FIRST asshole to just come out and say it , burn me afterwards if you like ... for me personally , if Dizzy didnt say in "part 3" of this interview when Democracy was coming out then I really dont care what he has to say.

Thats pretty selfish I know , but thats just how I feel.

Flame away.? :peace:
Since Axl told Madison what the first single is, maybe Dizzy told Madagascar what the 2nd single is. :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 11:31:55 PM
Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.

You're acting like this interview was published or something.

posting it on the internet is damn near the samething.... your quoting someone famous.. and then when any verification is done you run and hide??? ?thats pretty chicken shit if you ask me...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 25, 2006, 11:34:02 PM
Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.

You're acting like this interview was published or something.

posting it on the internet is damn near the samething.... your quoting someone famous.. and then when any verification is done you run and hide??? ?thats pretty chicken shit if you ask me...

The interview wasn't discredited - just the bit where the author implied that Dizzy's comments suggested a band reunion.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 25, 2006, 11:40:11 PM
the author implied
Now you understand the problem with this "interview".


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 25, 2006, 11:41:12 PM
Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.

You're acting like this interview was published or something.


posting it on the internet is damn near the samething.... your quoting someone famous.. and then when any verification is done you run and hide??? ?thats pretty chicken shit if you ask me...

The interview wasn't discredited - just the bit where the author implied that Dizzy's comments suggested a band reunion.

thats true... so if its already getting replys from the band management you know they are looking at this thread and interview...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on January 25, 2006, 11:43:36 PM
I've seen my share of fake interviews with band members on this very site. They all sound the same.

If this were real:

Dizzy is a prick

Dizzy doesn't know anything about anything going on with the band, except that Slash and Duffs managers want a reunion.

If this were real the whole "interview" could have been done in one post, not over several days. The meat of the interview wouldn't need to be teased about.

I may be wrong and this could be real, but I would be very disappointed in Dizzy.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 25, 2006, 11:45:06 PM
if Dizzy didnt say in "part 3" of this interview when Democracy was coming out then I really dont care what he has to say.
Flame away.? :peace:

So you would rather have had Dizzy make something up... :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 25, 2006, 11:55:27 PM
Quote from: Splat
No To GN'R Re-union
Written by Administrator? ?
Wednesday, 25 January 2006

Merck Mercuriadis has told Splat that there is 'no truth' to recent news reports stating that Axl wants to reform the original line-up of GN'R (a story that has somehow evolved from the recent Rolling Stone story).

There is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revelations that ex-members have 'offered bigtime for a re-union'. Splat has verified though that the interviewer (Madagascar88) does attend Cornell University and is a member of the Zeta Psi fraternity.

Notice how Splat doesn't say "According to Merck there is also no truth to Dizzy's recent revalation...". From the above passage, we can conclude that Merck knows nothing of the interview posted in this thread.

Now that is shitty journalism.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 25, 2006, 11:57:35 PM
I think it's really uncalled for and unnecessary the way some people attack someone they don't believe.? Its not like anybody doing the name calling had any facts to back up their position.?

The guy was probably telling the truth, even if he didn't quote exactly or misinterpreted some things Dizzy said.? He's not a professional journalist.? I don't blame him for bailing either.? And its a good thing he didn't say whatever that "bit of info" was.? Some fool would have asked Dizzy about it on myspace and Dizzy will never talk to him again.?

Being the first one to call someone a liar doesn't make you look smart, in case anyone was wondering.? When you don't really know what you are talking about, it just makes you look like an ass.
This guy conducted himself in a childish and unprofessional manner with this "interview". It had nothing to do with giving GNR fans any information, it was about having the spotlight on himself, and he was trying to keep that spotlight on for as long as possible. He acted shocked when we all didn't fall in line with his little agenda, but he had to know witholding "inside info" would cause a minor stir. If you'll look back and research Dizzy interviews, you will see that he has never spoken like this before.
 ?Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.
 ?The next time you want to insult me or one of the other people here for not falling for this hook, line, and sinker, go read a book on ethics, or take a journalism class.

I never thought I'd say this.. but jameslofton29, you're spot on?word for word : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 26, 2006, 12:05:49 AM
this was brought to my attention by chineseblues:

posted by Lisa Reed:

Quote
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but a lot of it is not

http://p221.ezboard.com/fthesirdizzyreedappreciationsocietypart2frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=3103.topic&start=21&stop=29


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 26, 2006, 12:10:05 AM
Thanks rainx.

Such a shame people have to take advantage of how cool and easily accessible Dizzy is to his and the bands fans. Must make him just not want to do it anymore.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 26, 2006, 12:11:17 AM
I think you are starting to understand why most superstars end up appearing like assholes  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on January 26, 2006, 12:11:34 AM
this was brought to my attention by chineseblues:

posted by Lisa Reed:

Quote
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but a lot of it is not

http://p221.ezboard.com/fthesirdizzyreedappreciationsocietypart2frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=3103.topic&start=21&stop=29

I don't doubt he is a student there, or that he met Dizzy. I just doubt EVERYTHING else.

If you are paraphrasing an "interview" like that, wouldn't you write everything you can remember all at once? And if its not exactly what he said, why write his answers out like its exactly what came out of his mouth? Why is the "good stuff" not written right away? If he was sworn to secrecy about it, why would he say anything in the first place?

Pleeeease...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 26, 2006, 12:11:57 AM
this was brought to my attention by chineseblues:

posted by Lisa Reed:

Quote
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but a lot of it is not

http://p221.ezboard.com/fthesirdizzyreedappreciationsocietypart2frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=3103.topic&start=21&stop=29



and there you have it.... looks like we were right to question it.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 26, 2006, 12:14:42 AM
I think it's really uncalled for and unnecessary the way some people attack someone they don't believe.? Its not like anybody doing the name calling had any facts to back up their position.?

The guy was probably telling the truth, even if he didn't quote exactly or misinterpreted some things Dizzy said.? He's not a professional journalist.? I don't blame him for bailing either.? And its a good thing he didn't say whatever that "bit of info" was.? Some fool would have asked Dizzy about it on myspace and Dizzy will never talk to him again.?

Being the first one to call someone a liar doesn't make you look smart, in case anyone was wondering.? When you don't really know what you are talking about, it just makes you look like an ass.
This guy conducted himself in a childish and unprofessional manner with this "interview". It had nothing to do with giving GNR fans any information, it was about having the spotlight on himself, and he was trying to keep that spotlight on for as long as possible. He acted shocked when we all didn't fall in line with his little agenda, but he had to know witholding "inside info" would cause a minor stir. If you'll look back and research Dizzy interviews, you will see that he has never spoken like this before.
 ?Misquoting and embellishing the words of your interview subject is almost criminal. In this case, he quite possibly put Dizzy's status in GNR on the line. Did anyone think that Axl's recent positive remarks towards ex members was his way of hoping in the future to build back the burnt bridges with his old bandmates? Well, with these derogatory remarks by Dizzy, that has been set back indefinitely. It basically wipes away the positive Axl comments.
 ?The next time you want to insult me or one of the other people here for not falling for this hook, line, and sinker, go read a book on ethics, or take a journalism class.

I never thought I'd say this.. but jameslofton29, you're spot on?word for word : ok:
Thanks Gunner! ?:beer: Its times like this when we need to stick together, and not fall for every little scam that comes along in the GNR world, and not cave in to those who start them and those that believe them. We have seen fake stories, fake rumours, fake song leaks, etc. Until Axl releases this album, we will continue to see those things. To use the words of Sinead O Connor: 'Fight the Enemy'. : ok: :peace: 8)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: rainX on January 26, 2006, 12:20:44 AM
None of these things mean he isn't telling the truth.

Of course Merck is gonna say what he said, and of course Lisa is gonna say that. You think she's just gonna be like "yeah, my husband was making out with college chicks!"



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 26, 2006, 12:23:02 AM
where is said "frat boy" now... is he sticking by it or is Lisa Reed a liar now too???? ? glad someone else tried to verify it by showing the interview to lisa and asking questions about it...... and anyone who wanted to give me shit for asking Dizzy about it on myspace can get in the ring....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on January 26, 2006, 12:29:23 AM
None of these things mean he isn't telling the truth.

Of course Merck is gonna say what he said, and of course Lisa is gonna say that. You think she's just gonna be like "yeah, my husband was making out with college chicks!"



No offense, but why isn't it possible that this kid made up the interview? Look at your last line, would it make sense this kid would say that on a forum where Dizzy's family would read it, then say he dosen't want to endanger his status in the band?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 26, 2006, 12:32:03 AM
None of these things mean he isn't telling the truth.
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better

to me that means hes lying in a nice way


Of course Merck is gonna say what he said, and of course Lisa is gonna say that. You think she's just gonna be like "yeah, my husband was making out with college chicks!"
where did that come from????

Quote


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 12:33:19 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 26, 2006, 12:39:16 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt  talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonx on January 26, 2006, 12:41:49 AM
this was brought to my attention by chineseblues:

posted by Lisa Reed:

Quote
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but a lot of it is not

http://p221.ezboard.com/fthesirdizzyreedappreciationsocietypart2frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=3103.topic&start=21&stop=29

Does this mean we can all let rip and start talking shit on "Frat Boys"?  :hihi:

Its pretty obvious that some of the account has been exaggerated, you only have to look at certain things that are said in the first few lines of the interview to figure that out! I wont say anymore as someone deleted the original posts i made back on Pg1 pointing this out!

Jonx


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonx on January 26, 2006, 12:44:54 AM
None of these things mean he isn't telling the truth.

Of course Merck is gonna say what he said, and of course Lisa is gonna say that. You think she's just gonna be like "yeah, my husband was making out with college chicks!"



Exaclty, im glad someone else pointed this out!

As i said in the post above, i pointed this whole "making out with college chicks" thing at the begining of this thread, but my posts were deleted!

Jonx


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 12:45:02 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt? talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..

His wife stays at home and runs a message board while he goes off and tours.

Yeah, I bet he doesn't hide anything from her...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 26, 2006, 12:49:12 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt? talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..

His wife stays at home and runs a message board while he goes off and tours.

Yeah, I bet he doesn't hide anything from her...
Your little swipes at Lisa Reed are beyond pathetic.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonx on January 26, 2006, 12:49:43 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt  talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..

His wife stays at home and runs a message board while he goes off and tours.

Yeah, I bet he doesn't hide anything from her...

15 years of marriage says that he doesnt! And i think she has a pretty good idea of what its like to be on tour with Rockstars, after all one of her books is about this very subject!

Jonx



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 12:54:49 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt? talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..

His wife stays at home and runs a message board while he goes off and tours.

Yeah, I bet he doesn't hide anything from her...
Your little swipes at Lisa Reed are beyond pathetic.

Hey - if this interview is already "putting Dizzy's status in GNR on the line", why not let it ruin a marriage as well?

She's in denial.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 26, 2006, 12:57:39 AM
Lisa Reed is guessing just like the rest of us.

oh here we go.. now its time for you all to discredit lisa reed too.... like she doesnt? talk to her husband??? her best guess is better than frat boys interview skills.... sorry dude.. ur reaching for it now..

His wife stays at home and runs a message board while he goes off and tours.

Yeah, I bet he doesn't hide anything from her...

15 years of marriage says that he doesnt! And i think she has a pretty good idea of what its like to be on tour with Rockstars, after all one of her books is about this very subject!

Jonx



so of course if she wrote books about it and shes been married to a rockstar.. shes not stupid and shes not gonna be fooled.. and for anyone to question Lisa Reed or her marriage based on some stupid 20something, pimplefaced, star struck college kids interview is not only rude, low and just wrong..... ?

she can comment on it just the same as you can or i can but where your taking this is wrong.... your gonna belive that pimple faced kid over lisa reed??? ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 01:01:22 AM
she can comment on it just the same as you can or i can but where your taking this is wrong.... your gonna belive that pimple faced kid over lisa reed??? ?

I'm going to believe this interview is real until proven otherwise.

There's no reason not to thus far.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madison on January 26, 2006, 01:01:55 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student. ?And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word. ?Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate? ?Sure. ?But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar. ?Don't let the others bother you.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dolphin on January 26, 2006, 01:03:03 AM
i don't understand why bother lisa reed if people already were deeming this interview a fake? ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 26, 2006, 01:08:19 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student. ?And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word. ?Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate? ?Sure. ?But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar. ?Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 01:10:46 AM
i don't understand why bother lisa reed if people already were deeming this interview a fake? ???

A billion internet posters can scream "OMG THAT'S FAKE!", and yet it doesn't matter because they have no proof.

That's why Dizzy is now in the wonderful situation where if he denies the interview happened, he betrays the fraternity that hosted him, and if he confirms the interview happened, he damages his relationship with Lisa.

Here's to drama!

 :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonx on January 26, 2006, 01:10:52 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.  And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.  Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?  Sure.  But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.  Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

I think this topic needs a lock until Madi can provide proof to one of the mods, rip the tape to MP3 or something and post it on the net!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 01:14:49 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.? And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.? Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?? Sure.? But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.? Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

I think this topic needs a lock until Madi can provide proof to one of the mods, rip the tape to MP3 or something and post it on the net!

Why can't we just wait to hear from someone in the GNR camp?

If this is that big of a deal to them, they'll deny either parts of the interview as factual or the whole thing completely.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madison on January 26, 2006, 01:28:56 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student. ?And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word. ?Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate? ?Sure. ?But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar. ?Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

We're all part of the same GNR community dude - regardless of what forum you choose to visit. 
And I speak out when a member of that community is being unfairly bashed.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 26, 2006, 01:46:22 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.  And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.  Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?  Sure.  But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.  Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

The most embarrassing part of this entire thread is how you have acted, jameslofton. If you choose to not believe it, then state your opinion and move on. But to literally harass this person when you had no evidence other than intutiion is really repellant. The piece maybe exaggerated or just plain wrong in spots but you had no proof behind your accusations.   Lisa Reed and Merck have raised questions about the piece but it has not been shown to be  fabricated.  Unfortunately because of your behavior in this thread, the original poster will probably not answer any more questions that now have been raised.  Good job.  :rant:

And even though Lisa and Merck have raised questions, you have not been vindicated. Your behavior was out of line and you should be ashamed.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 26, 2006, 01:53:47 AM
I heard Lisa Reed was gunna sell the interview on ebay.  ???

Just what I heard , I dunno if anyone can confirm it or not? Mysteron? Merck? Madison?!  ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 26, 2006, 02:12:45 AM
rainx,
you're borderline stupid, I reckon.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 02:20:15 AM
I heard Lisa Reed was gunna sell the interview on ebay.? ???

Just what I heard , I dunno if anyone can confirm it or not? Mysteron? Merck? Madison?!? ???

You're completely useless as a poster.

Somebody had to say it.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 26, 2006, 02:22:58 AM
I think this whole community has sunken to an all time low  :(


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 26, 2006, 02:34:04 AM
I heard Lisa Reed was gunna sell the interview on ebay.  ???

Just what I heard , I dunno if anyone can confirm it or not? Mysteron? Merck? Madison?!  ???

You're completely useless as a poster.

Somebody had to say it.

Well it's better I hear it from you , DunkinDave , then anyone else.  : ok:



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 26, 2006, 02:36:00 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.? And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.? Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?? Sure.? But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.? Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

The most embarrassing part of this entire thread is how you have acted, jameslofton. If you choose to not believe it, then state your opinion and move on. But to literally harass this person when you had no evidence other than intutiion is really repellant. The piece maybe exaggerated or just plain wrong in spots but you had no proof behind your accusations.? ?Lisa Reed and Merck have raised questions about the piece but it has not been shown to be? fabricated.? Unfortunately because of your behavior in this thread, the original poster will probably not answer any more questions that now have been raised.? Good job.? :rant:

And even though Lisa and Merck have raised questions, you have not been vindicated. Your behavior was out of line and you should be ashamed.
KV, the most embarassing part of the thread was the first post, and how the guy offered up this interview. I didn't harass this person. How could I, when it got a little hot here, he took off. Me and several others were just discussing the authenticity of this interview. If you cant handle that, then maybe you should post in other threads. But I'm done with this thread. I made my point, and I dont want to start anything here with fellow members, ?and its slowly coming out that the info is garbage anyways..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 02:41:45 AM
I heard Lisa Reed was gunna sell the interview on ebay.? ???

Just what I heard , I dunno if anyone can confirm it or not? Mysteron? Merck? Madison?!? ???

You're completely useless as a poster.

Somebody had to say it.

Well it's better I hear it from you , DunkinDave , then anyone else.? : ok:



No prob.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 02:42:56 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.? And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.? Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?? Sure.? But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.? Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

I think this topic needs a lock until Madi can provide proof to one of the mods, rip the tape to MP3 or something and post it on the net!

as much as I'd love to post the video... and in fact, talking to some of the brothers- that was their suggestion for me to get out of this mess... I couldn't do that.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 26, 2006, 02:50:22 AM
Madagascarshithole,
Shut the fuck up. It's the best you can do. I guarantee you.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 02:54:13 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.? And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.? Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?? Sure.? But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.? Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

I think this topic needs a lock until Madi can provide proof to one of the mods, rip the tape to MP3 or something and post it on the net!

as much as I'd love to post the video... and in fact, talking to some of the brothers- that was their suggestion for me to get out of this mess... I couldn't do that.

Post a screencap and/or photograph of you sitting next to Dizzy, at the very least.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 26, 2006, 02:58:12 AM
He posted something on mygnrforum...

He admited the interview is fake.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 26, 2006, 03:07:29 AM
He posted something on mygnr...

He admited the interview is fake.

So is about 99.4% of every rumor , fan encounter , interview in our lil GNR world.  I'm starting to think you guys are all fake too.  :nervous:  This is not real , I've been duped.

It's like , when a friend tlls me something now , no matter how mundane it is , I almost feel like yelling at him ,"oh yeah?! Name your sources you one post wonder!"

From now on when someone lies to me or tricks me in real life I think I'll just say "when do you think chinese democracy will come out?"



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 26, 2006, 03:11:29 AM
He posted something on mygnrforum...

He admited the interview is fake.
I just read his statement at mygnr. What a douche bag. He met Dizzy, but all the juicy details were lies.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 26, 2006, 03:18:33 AM
What a complete tool.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 03:25:12 AM
(http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4296/18mo2.jpg)



GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 26, 2006, 03:30:12 AM
I think it's really lame how everybody is jumping all over Madagascar88.
He's not a professional journalist guys -- he's a student.  And I thought he did a good job trying to ask questions -- and using a tape recorder to ensure accuracy in the answers. He freely admitted the parts that he paraphrased and the parts that he quoted word for word.  Is it possible the paraphrased parts aren't 100% accurate?  Sure.  But I don't think he tried to mislead anybody - which is more than I can say for some other sites that try to interview people and take their quotes out of context.

Good job Madagascar.  Don't let the others bother you.
Dont you have a forum to run? :confused: Why do you care what we think anyways? All your minions at mygnr believe all of this shit, so preach your gospel over there.

The most embarrassing part of this entire thread is how you have acted, jameslofton. If you choose to not believe it, then state your opinion and move on. But to literally harass this person when you had no evidence other than intutiion is really repellant. The piece maybe exaggerated or just plain wrong in spots but you had no proof behind your accusations.   Lisa Reed and Merck have raised questions about the piece but it has not been shown to be  fabricated.  Unfortunately because of your behavior in this thread, the original poster will probably not answer any more questions that now have been raised.  Good job.  :rant:

And even though Lisa and Merck have raised questions, you have not been vindicated. Your behavior was out of line and you should be ashamed.
KV, the most embarassing part of the thread was the first post, and how the guy offered up this interview. I didn't harass this person. How could I, when it got a little hot here, he took off. Me and several others were just discussing the authenticity of this interview. If you cant handle that, then maybe you should post in other threads. But I'm done with this thread. I made my point, and I dont want to start anything here with fellow members,  and its slowly coming out that the info is garbage anyways..

Considering how you fly off the handle whenever some rumor is posted, I wonder whether it is a good for this forum for you to chase around those who post this information. there maybe a time when the information is genuine and the poster is being honest. It is not good buisness for a community act the way in which this thread has shown. Proof was requested very early on but still the conversation degenerated into name calling. This happens habitually to Mysteron as well. One day, idiots here will chase away someone with something important to say. We are getting to that point.

If you read maddie 88's response on mygnr, he only said that he exaggerated on one part, not the whole interview. Considering his comments about respect towards Lisa and Diz, I actually think he is saying this to protect them. The comments could very well be true but he is backing off. He does say that the interview was genuine and has pictures to prove it.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 03:31:29 AM
He posted something on mygnrforum...

He admited the interview is fake.
I just read his statement at mygnr. What a douche bag. He met Dizzy, but all the juicy details were lies.

No they weren't.

Quote from: Madagascar88
anyway... to switch the topic a little I'm gonna try my best to ignore the flaming that's going on in HTGTH although it kind of makes me crawl into hole sometimes when reading it. I'm issuing an apology to Lisa/Dizzy tomorrow for ever even posting the interview. As I've said many times... I couldn't care less as to whether some of you jackasses believe my responses or not... the only thing I care about is my reputation/integrity with Dizzy & Lisa. Because most of the second part of my "interview" transcript comes from private conversations between me and Dizzy... I should CERTAINLY have thought about my actions before I pursued them, I would've realized that if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't want those words posted.

I will also now state that the "confidential" paragraph I posted during the second part was a complete exaggeration of the actual lunchtime conversation... it is in no ways true and I was basically trying to get some attention and I apologize to both the fans and to Dizzy for writing that up.

So he's admitting this isn't real:
Quote
You know... all those guys do... I mean, I'm not supposed to say this.. it's kind of confidential... but Slash, Duff... all those guys have been offering bigtime for a reunion. [I ask whether he means their agents] Yea... I mean they wouldn't ask our management themselves so they go through their own to contact us about a reunion.

But the rest of the interview he still claims is genuine.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 03:33:33 AM
If you read maddie 88's response on mygnr, he only said that he exaggerated on one part, not the whole interview. Considering his comments about respect towards Lisa and Diz, I actually think he is saying this to protect them. The comments could very well be true but he is backing off. He does say that the interview was genuine and has pictures to prove it.

Exactly.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 26, 2006, 03:36:46 AM
This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.

No, I think you're a fake? :drool:
Feel free to look stupid. : ok:
Once again : feel free to look stupid. : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 03:38:56 AM
This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.

No, I think you're a fake? :drool:
Feel free to look stupid. : ok:
Once again : feel free to look stupid. : ok:

Wow - you just repeated your adversary's insult after being proven wrong.

You fail internet flaming.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 03:53:02 AM
Dizzy responded to Madagascar88's apology:

Quote
in response to my apology email to Dizzy apologizing for my interview...

I haven' read it yet but, yes, things like ____________ aren't really good for everyone to know.
Thanks for keeping that off of there. And Lisa reemed
me about _____________!1 Or at least about it being on the
internet. No big deal though, I had her laughing about it after a while. There wil
be enough info. on the internet to satisfy everyone soon enough so let them wait!!
Peace....dizzy.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 26, 2006, 03:55:55 AM
This topic should be closed as the interview is clearly a fake.

No, I think you're a fake? :drool:
Feel free to look stupid. : ok:
Once again : feel free to look stupid. : ok:

Wow - you just repeated your adversary's insult after being proven wrong.

You fail internet flaming.
How was he proven wrong? The guy admitted to embellishing the interview, which calls into question the entire thing. No one denied he met Dizzy, it was the details that were being disputed, and rightfully so.

KV, you have a point, but I disagree. If it wasn't for me and the others who disputed this "interview", this guy would still be being worshipped like a God. By the way, I dont jump on to every person who posts a rumour, just the ones that smell like shit. This one did. Earlier I said I wasn't gonna post in this thread anymore, but you replied to one of my comments so I did. I'm not giving this creep anymore attention, because its obvious thats all he wants. If you have anything further to say to me about this "interview", do it by PM. :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 04:01:27 AM
If you have anything further to say to me about this "interview", do it by PM. :peace:

And the obligatory "get the last word in so that anyone else in the thread challenging me will be greeted with 'I told you to take it to PM's, and I would have stopped, but you had to egg me on, didn't you?' " response.

You also fail at internet flaming.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highvoltage on January 26, 2006, 04:31:59 AM
Since he's gone to bed i'll step in briefly...

...He's re-retracted the statement saying it was a lie guys. He said that it was a lie because he was worried about what Dizzy would think if he posted it on the internet.

He's gotten an email back from Diz, and he's not shitty at all, so uhh the only thing he lied about was saying that he lied if i'm making any sense.... ;)

Check the thread again and read his latest post. I can quote it if it's needed.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highvoltage on January 26, 2006, 04:34:51 AM
Uhh - this is his latest post on mygnr.

Quote
suck on this you fuckin' assholes!!!!!!!!



in response to my apology email to Dizzy apologizing for my interview...

Subject: Re: Online Interview
From: _________
Date: Wed, January 25, 2006 6:30 pm
To: "Dennis Shen" <dys6@cornell.edu>

I haven' read it yet but, yes, things like ____________ aren't really good for everyone to know.
Thanks for keeping that off of there. And Lisa reemed
me about _____________!1 Or at least about it being on the
internet. No big deal though, I had her laughing about it after a while. There wil
be enough info. on the internet to satisfy everyone soon enough so let them wait!!
Peace....dizzy.



FUCK YOU HTGTH - I WIN!!!!

by the way... Chinese Democracy anyone from that last statement to me? Remember that "event" i mentioned that I wouldn't tell anyone... that event goes into the first blank... and that first blank resulted in something obviously that would induce Dizzy to write that last sentence rock1.gif



and yea... about me saying that those words about Slash/Duff wanting a reunion is an exaggeration... sorry... that was completely true! (sorry highvoltacedc... I had to retract that lie)... i was doing it just 'cause I thought the Dizwald might be ticked... but o wait... he isnt... so, screw all you doubters.


o... who cares... if you wanna know what I editted out and your an administrator, PM me and I'll forward you the email... well.... minus his addresss that is

 ;)

EDIT: My apologies Dave - I didn't see that you'd already posted it...

I'm used to boards with darker colours. :P :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DaNutz on January 26, 2006, 04:42:35 AM
WOW just saw the pictures...Not sure if its already been posted in this long ass thread,
but here is the link

http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?page=pics&event=afterparty06&numpics=36


Dizzy Reed the King lol! Funny stuff.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 26, 2006, 04:47:33 AM
wow, this has turned into a very entertaining, if not rather scandolous thread.

My head is spinning, I dont know what to believe now!  :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DaNutz on January 26, 2006, 05:16:23 AM
I predict they're gonna film a music video.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: badapple81 on January 26, 2006, 05:19:12 AM
Whatever and if it's true, we'll find out about whatever will happen when it happens. I'm over all this shit.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 26, 2006, 05:35:17 AM
(http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/4296/18mo2.jpg)



GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Even the picture is fake dumbass.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Cocaine__tongue on January 26, 2006, 05:52:38 AM
Regardless the truth and exactness of this interview, just let me say education is needed in every aspect of life, even when you post on a gnr forum. It's been just anoying to read some people posts and their lack of education.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 26, 2006, 05:57:18 AM
Regardless the truth and exactness of this interview, just let me say education is needed in every aspect of life, even when you post on a gnr forum. It's been just anoying to read some people posts and their lack of education.
The less educated guy here is Madagascar88.

Though just my opionion. :-*


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jarmo on January 26, 2006, 06:37:36 AM
I suggest that anybody who's into the insulting thing should stop it right away.


Fine, you don't believe the interview. That's one thing. Calling the poster names is another. It's the kind of behaviour we don't accept here.


/jarmo





Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 26, 2006, 07:30:12 AM
If you read maddie 88's response on mygnr, he only said that he exaggerated on one part, not the whole interview. Considering his comments about respect towards Lisa and Diz, I actually think he is saying this to protect them. The comments could very well be true but he is backing off. He does say that the interview was genuine and has pictures to prove it.

Exactly.

I think madagascar88 doesn't want Dizzy to be fired.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on January 26, 2006, 07:34:26 AM
man ....  is that the fraternity ? ahahah. c++ and java programming fraternity ? ;)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: redarmy76 on January 26, 2006, 09:10:35 AM
So let me see if I get this right.

Dude says he gets to spend a w/e with Dizzy, asks for questions we would like asked.
Dude says he spent the w/e and will post a transcript of answers.
Dude posts some answers, more to come.
Dude starts to get flamed.
Dude posts second part, w/ a little more meat from Dizwald
Dude gets flamed huge, dude gets pissed and says no more
Dude gets flamed, name calling ensues.
Dude posts pictures, called fake.
Dude apologizes for embellishing some parts of article.
Dude e-mails apology to Dizzy, gets reply back saying its ok
Dude retracts apology, gets last laugh

Do I got this right?
I'm so confused


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 26, 2006, 09:17:25 AM
Do I got this right?
I'm so confused

I second that, Is madagascar88 claiming this legit still? or has he admitted it's a hoax? :confused:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 26, 2006, 09:22:38 AM
i think he admitted it was hoax, but then rejected his statement, because he just wanted to "safe" dizzy


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 26, 2006, 10:43:31 AM
Ill believe Lisa Reed over some poster ona  mesageboard any day of the week. : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Origen on January 26, 2006, 10:48:39 AM
Even the picture is fake dumbass.

So I guess all these photos are fake as well http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?page=pics&event=afterparty06&numpics=36? ::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 26, 2006, 11:04:19 AM
Ill believe Lisa Reed over some poster ona? mesageboard any day of the week. : ok:

I think I missed something.  This thread grew overnight and I can't figure out what you are talking about.  Did Lisa Reed say something about this interview thing?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 26, 2006, 11:08:27 AM
cool pics.  :D


I second that, Is madagascar88 claiming this legit still? or has he admitted it's a hoax? :confused:

From what I gather, it's not hoax. He did have a chat/ interview with Dizzy.
Just it seems that his paraphrases of the conversation involve some misinterpretations/ exaggerations and may be misleading.

Dizzy's wife says...

posted by Lisa Reed:

Quote
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but a lot of it is not

http://p221.ezboard.com/fthesirdizzyreedappreciationsocietypart2frm2.showMessageRange?topicID=3103.topic&start=21&stop=29


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 26, 2006, 11:13:07 AM
Thanks ppbebe.

Dizzy responded to Madagascar88's apology:

Quote
in response to my apology email to Dizzy apologizing for my interview...

I haven' read it yet but, yes, things like ____________ aren't really good for everyone to know.
Thanks for keeping that off of there. And Lisa reemed
me about _____________!1 Or at least about it being on the
internet. No big deal though, I had her laughing about it after a while. There wil
be enough info. on the internet to satisfy everyone soon enough so let them wait!!
Peace....dizzy.

Anyone know which part Lisa would have reemed him about?  I don't recall reading anything about her in the interview.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 26, 2006, 11:16:46 AM
Tank, back to your songwriting credits stuff-from Tommy in late 2004

GUNS N' ROSES Bassist Hopes New Album Will Be Completed This Fall - Sep. 15, 2004
GUNS N' ROSES bassist Tommy Stinson recently told Canada's Chart Attack that the group's long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy" is nearing completion. "I would imagine they would start mastering it some time in October, November, somewhere in there," Stinson said. "I just wanted to make sure I got my two cents in so I couldn't look back and go, 'Dudes, what's up?' And they go, 'Dude, where were you? You didn't say anything!' So I got my two cents in on it."

And what was Stinson's two cents?

"My two cents was very much like a cent and a half," he said. "It's like, all the stuff I heard was phenomenal. I didn't get a chance to listen to all of it, because I was pressed for time. But also I wanted to hear the things I hadn't heard yet. Some of the stuff had been done a while ago and hadn't changed much; I didn't really bother with that. But I wanted to hear all the new stuff and I heard about six things that I hadn't heard finished yet, that were really mind-blowing. A few of the songs are pretty epic in length, but that's always been GN'R's thing, hasn't it? I don't think it's a particularly long album, but I think the six I heard are pretty epic. I mean they are just... fucking huge, you know [laughs]. I think pretty much all of us in the band have some songwriting credits on just about everything.  The undertaking was pretty much a large collaboration between eight people, even a couple others who aren't around anymore, but maybe started with pieces of the old band or whatever. But yeah, there is probably a lot to go around with that one."   :beer:
 
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Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 26, 2006, 11:21:15 AM
Tank, back to your songwriting credits stuff

Yeah i saw this in the other thread. and PM's both WARose and ppbebe and said I guess I was wrong. :-[

funny though that nobody has heard final mixes or what parts that will get on the final album, or that apparently Richards ideas were'nt used. etc. etc.

whatever, i really don't want to bring it all up again, you guys win.....for now

"Ahhhlllll be Back!" :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 26, 2006, 11:24:56 AM
I doubt Tommy has a very good idea about what the final songwriting credits will be. That interview was over a year ago. Axl will have credits on every song-almost guaranteed if he is the sole lyric writer as he claims. However, it remains to be seen as who the other people will be and how often. There is no right answer. :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: elevendayempire on January 26, 2006, 11:27:55 AM
It's getting a bit silly that even if someone posts pictures of themselves with a member of GN'R, they're called a fake. What on Earth will you people accept as true? A signed affadavit from Axl himself?

SG


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 26, 2006, 11:32:48 AM
you are correct, no one quite knows what we are gonna see or hear concerning the future of this band and know one knows exactly who all the people are that have influenced the composition of whatever songs may appear on it. No-one except Axl that is, which was also the corner stone of my argument, one fact that i don't think anyone can deny.

I'm not saying they are fake but what about the one with the crown on Dizzy's head, the crown looks really badly photoshopped IMO. http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/pictures/afterparty06/images/12.jpg


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 26, 2006, 11:40:35 AM
Tanks madagas! :D

The credit business must take hell long time, considering.  :confused:

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things like ____________ aren't really good for everyone to know.
Thanks for keeping that off of there.

in a week......??? mmm something to do with Sanctuary?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 26, 2006, 11:43:14 AM
Even the picture is fake dumbass.

So I guess all these photos are fake as well http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/cgi-bin/showpage.cgi?page=pics&event=afterparty06&numpics=36? ::)

Yes. ?Clearly the entire fraternity got together and decided to shoot a bunch of pictures with someone wearing certain clothes, so they could later photshop in Dizzy's head and tattoos. ?And it was all to pull a prank on GNR message board members. ?Because in that fraternity, everyone's world revolves around internet message boards, especially GNR. ?Makes total sense.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: SINSHINE on January 26, 2006, 11:48:56 AM
What a Fn' soap opera. Honestly, who really cares about this interview THAT much to criticize every aspect of it. If it's true (which I think it probably is) then great. But it really just adds a bit more to the saga that has started up again since the groundhog emerged from his den. It isn't groundbreaking and isn't even overly exciting (unless, I suppose, you were actually there).

As far as the 'event'...at first it just sounded to me as if Dizzy might have mentioned to M88 something like the entire band was going to be getting together for a meeting or perhaps rehearsals of some kind. If you read it from the beginning, it doesn't mention anything about it being something done in public (ie: performance or announcement). Then Dizzy, apparently, goes on to say that whatever IT is, "there will be enough info. on the internet to satisfy everyone soon enough." Although M88 claims that is in response to IT, it may very well just mean that some news may be coming soon. Either way, I doubt the IT event will be much more than a meeting between the entire band (which certainly would be nice to hear). Perhaps that meeting will be for a private listening party, or maybe a photo session, or maybe (like someone else mentioned) a video shoot.

Regardless if you believe M88 or not, leave him alone. The boy is excited to have spent a weekend with Dizzy and wants to share it with us (but knows too many assholes are not concerned with his joy in the matter and just want some hard core gossip from him).

Just be happy for the boy, concentrate on what real news you do hear and keep the faith. One of these days ALL the 'rumors' will be put to rest.



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 26, 2006, 11:55:19 AM
Sin, good post. ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 26, 2006, 12:44:56 PM
I think Madagascar88 deserves credit. He has given us the most thought-out hoax in the history of HTGTH, in my opinion.

Give him a high-five.  : ok:

By the way, that picture of Dizzy Reed with the crown on looks entirely fake. I'll have to look at the rest of the pictures and inspect for anything unusual.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Origen on January 26, 2006, 01:05:55 PM
IF YOU think they're fake then they are very convincing:

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8682/223bh.jpg)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on January 26, 2006, 01:13:42 PM
Dizzy is bloody-thirsty  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 26, 2006, 01:18:59 PM
I think Madagascar88 deserves credit. He has given us the most thought-out hoax in the history of HTGTH, in my opinion.


I think you deserve credit for sticking to your belief that the whole thing is fake, despite any and all evidence to the contrary.

I could understand sticking to the idea that some of it was exagerated or embellished.  But to keep insisting the whole thing is a hoax, that takes real conviction!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ARC on January 26, 2006, 01:21:27 PM
Once again, just for the slower among you...

Madagascar88 is legitimate.

Thank you, Madagascar88 for the cool interview, photo's and 'news'.  :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Cornell on January 26, 2006, 01:24:12 PM
Like I said before.  madagasgar88 is a Cornell student and Dizzy was on campus.  He did interview him - if he stretched the truth of the interview, I have no idea why (more exciting?).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: elmaestro on January 26, 2006, 01:35:22 PM
What a Fn' soap opera. Honestly, who really cares about this interview THAT much to criticize every aspect of it. If it's true (which I think it probably is) then great. But it really just adds a bit more to the saga that has started up again since the groundhog emerged from his den. It isn't groundbreaking and isn't even overly exciting (unless, I suppose, you were actually there).
 
Regardless if you believe M88 or not, leave him alone. The boy is excited to have spent a weekend with Dizzy and wants to share it with us (but knows too many assholes are not concerned with his joy in the matter and just want some hard core gossip from him).

Just be happy for the boy, concentrate on what real news you do hear and keep the faith. One of these days ALL the 'rumors' will be put to rest.


Great post SINSHINE, my thoughts exactly!!? :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 26, 2006, 01:42:08 PM
how can you people seriosulys ay those pictures are fake? I mean cmon. as for the interview im sure the base of it is true. the only problem i have i saying i know something you dont know part. its childish and it shouldnt have been said at all


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 26, 2006, 01:44:49 PM
Younggunner...I said one picture looked fake and it did!

I mean look at it. I looked at the other pictures and they looked fine but that one picture looked hideous.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 26, 2006, 01:46:45 PM
I think Madagascar88 deserves credit. He has given us the most thought-out hoax in the history of HTGTH, in my opinion.


I think you deserve credit for sticking to your belief that the whole thing is fake, despite any and all evidence to the contrary.

I could understand sticking to the idea that some of it was exagerated or embellished.? But to keep insisting the whole thing is a hoax, that takes real conviction!

I have not yet concluded on the subject that the whole thing is fake but there are things about it that are. That one picture, parts of the interview, etc...

All you posters do here is try to slam each other and it will bring you nothing!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 01:48:53 PM
By the way, that picture of Dizzy Reed with the crown on looks entirely fake. I'll have to look at the rest of the pictures and inspect for anything unusual.

you'd have to be entirely crazy to think any of the pictures are "photoshopped"... god lord, get a life if that idea even runs through your head

if u want more pictures of Dizzy wearing that king crown... Kelly (a brother's girlfriend) will be updating the website pictures section tonight as soon as she finds her digital camera->USB connector.

don't u guys have more important things to talk about?? such as the email from Dizzy I received?? god... I'm so pumped right now 'cause... it looks like Chinese Democracys is truly being staged for release.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ARC on January 26, 2006, 01:52:22 PM
I'm so pumped right now 'cause... it looks like Chinese Democracys is truly being staged for release.

I'm with you. I think we're coming to the end of the line...  :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 26, 2006, 02:00:48 PM
By the way, that picture of Dizzy Reed with the crown on looks entirely fake. I'll have to look at the rest of the pictures and inspect for anything unusual.

you'd have to be entirely crazy to think any of the pictures are "photoshopped"... god lord, get a life if that idea even runs through your head

if u want more pictures of Dizzy wearing that king crown... Kelly (a brother's girlfriend) will be updating the website pictures section tonight as soon as she finds her digital camera->USB connector.

don't u guys have more important things to talk about?? such as the email from Dizzy I received?? god... I'm so pumped right now 'cause... it looks like Chinese Democracys is truly being staged for release.

You're the one that put the photos up and you know dam well that the crown picture looks fake.

And, you better not be leading us on by saying that cd is being staged for release. There will be a lot of anger if that statement is not true.

I've been coming here for 2 1/2 years now and so I have every reason in the world to be pessimistic. Just like anybody else that has been here for that long (or longer).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Origen on January 26, 2006, 02:14:05 PM
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And, you better not be leading us on by saying that cd is being staged for release. There will be a lot of anger if that statement is not true.


That just shows how pathetic the GnR community is, not just that one statement but some people are on here as if they are waiting for the holy grail. It's a album that was ment to be released by it's Summer 1998 deadline, by a band that broke up years ago.

Someof you really shouldn't be as OBSESSED as you are about this album, I'm a huge GnR fan and I support VR & NuGnR (Yes people you can like both bands) and I'm looking forward to VRs new album, and if Axls deventually comes it comes and if it doesn't then you wont have missed nothing you won't of had.



Anyway I've dragged this topic off course, Madagascar88 thanks alot for the interview and photos? :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ARC on January 26, 2006, 02:18:00 PM
It's a album that was ment to be released by it's Summer 1997 deadline, by a band that broke up years ago.

This is exactly WHY it is like a Holy Grail.

And the Da Vinci Code keeps coming to mind...  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 02:18:40 PM
Regardless the truth and exactness of this interview, just let me say education is needed in every aspect of life, even when you post on a gnr forum. It's been just anoying to read some people posts and their lack of education.
The less educated guy here is Madagascar88.

Though just my opionion. :-*

i... attend an Ivy league school, intern during the summer on Wall Street, and scored near perfect on my SATs.... how about u?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jarmo on January 26, 2006, 02:20:40 PM
Didn't I tell some of you to stop the insults?

That means, don't bother replying to the ones posted earlier.  : ok:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Almost Famous on January 26, 2006, 02:37:46 PM
Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 26, 2006, 02:39:32 PM
Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

And how do u know this..?  :-*


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 26, 2006, 02:49:03 PM
Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

And how do u know this..?? :-*

Because he found the holy grail...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Almost Famous on January 26, 2006, 02:50:10 PM
The failsafe stream of information that is the Internet. God bless it!

Seriously though, just another website that many people read in hopes of catching a glimpse of what is behind the veil. I have no idea if there is anything to be read into this or if it has any relevence at all to GN'R. Just thought I'd throw it out there and see if anyone could expand on it.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 02:52:41 PM
hey... can some people just make two posts? i need to reserve the 380th post for when I post the 3rd installment tonight... 'cause well... its at the top of the page and would look more snazzy.

wish i could just put it all in the first post like in mygnr but there's limits on # of characters here for some reason.

thank you.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 26, 2006, 02:56:37 PM
Minkwood? Whos that?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 03:00:13 PM
all right fine... i'll do it myself....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 03:00:25 PM
Part III (Part IV on page 24)

What was the deal with Dave Navarro joining the band following Izzy's departure?

Umm... he was supposed to play with us [concerts]... and for rehearsals... he never showed up for rehearsals. ?he agreed to... I don't know if he agreed to or not... but we set up rehearsals.. we had Madison Square Garden coming up and a bunch of other shows. ?2 nights went by and he never showed up so... we had to get somebody else so we got Gilby.

On April 1, 2005 - on April Fool's Day, a small clip of the song 'IRS' was posted on the internet. ?What was your response to the whole ordeal and what do you think happened?

I... I only know what I've heard. ?I heard something about Mike Piazza... playing it on a radio station. [shrugs] ?[I chime in and comment "Eddie Trunks Radio Station] yea... it was so bizarre... like I don't know how he would've got ahold of it. [I chime in adding that I thought Axl gave Mike the clip almost as a birthday gift] ... um.. that's possible. I don't know. ?I mean Mike seemed really cool when I met... really nice- he signed a baseball for my son...

So how did Hookers N Blow come along?

Hookers N Blow... I play at this place called the Cat Club on Thursdays. ?And I also do this thing with Happenin' Harry and the Half-tons [?] which are Sundays at the Cat Club and Wednesdays at this place called the ____. ?And a couple of the guys that sit in on those sessions approached me about doing some shows on the East coast... umm.. this guy Matt Starr and Alex Grossi- they're both from Connecticut and so I'm I say... sure let's do it. Now when they were booking some shows they wanted to call it the "Dizzy Reed band" ... I'm like 'that's so gay' and so they ask "well... what do you wanna call it then" and I'm like "I dont know... Hookers N Blow" so... it just kind of went from there. ?And its actually been very successful - very fun doing it.

What is your favorite song to cover with Hookers N Blow?

I like playing all the Guns stuff but do some really cool versions of like... "Time of the Season"... it's so much fun to play. We do some Motorhead... and uhh... god what else do we do... all the 70s stuff you know... its great cause thats what I like... Rolling Stones, Bowie, the Who.. we got some Beatles, 60s stuff too. ?You know we throw in a couple Guns N' Roses songs otherwise a lot of the clubs wouldn't let us out alive.

[Sergey the pledge asks:] I heard you guys also do some Aerosmith?

Yes... we do some Aerosmith... uhh... Mama Kin, Dream On.. and uh... I think that's it. ?I love the cover of Ziggy Stardust.

So what was your favorite Guns N' Roses show ever... whether it be with the new band or the old?

hmm.. I'm gonna have to go with the new lineup. ?The last show that we did which was Madison Square Garden was definitely my favorite show although there's so many... I mean we're talking about hundreds of shows... you know there were some great moments. ?Ronny Wood came up and played with us in... Tokyo. ?He came and played at the Tokyo Dome. ?And another time... Gilby had... and I wouldn't say its one of my favorite moments but... Gilby had broken his wristand we had some European dates coming up so we ended up asking Izzy to come fill in while Gilby's wrist healed. ?Gilby flew out to meet us in London and we were playing Milton Keynes... its this big outdoor venue they have there... and Ronny Wood was there 'cause we had seen him in Ireland too. ?It's funny cause you think of Izzy and Gilby like they're two prototypes of the rhythm guitar guy... they got the same haircut, the same vibe and everything... ?they're both great players- they're all great players... while Gilby was out, we had him play whenever he could... and Ron Wood was playing and Izzy... so we had all three of those guys were on stage together at the same time playing 'Knockin' on Heavens Door' and I was like... "o wow"... I'm like in the Ron Wood club so... that was a fun moment.

What was it like to play the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in '92?

You know... it was a pretty special event... it felt like... you could feel the energy and vibe.. and just all the people were really... like you could really it from the crowd- very caring and just we need to do something about this horrible disease. and just the fact that all those people were able to come together and play the show was kind of microcosm of what was going on... in the world at the time. ?It was pretty incredible. ?We could only play two songs... so we played two songs and flew out.

All right... this guy almost spammed me with mail 'cause he wanted you to read it so much... here... it says... from "fuck your enemy"... he says... this is his letter to you...

"Dizzy. I'd really like it if you could tell Axl how much love the fans have for him and how much we await his return. We got really happy and excited at just seeing current pictures of him.. We have waited patiently in hope of Guns N' Roses to tour again and bring out Chinese Democracy. Axl Rose and GN'R you have a huge fan-base with much love and respect and you always will. All I'm asking is for you to be aware of this and maybe give us a little information about the status of the band/album. Thank you."

o ok... umm... is that guy [in "fuck your enemy"s avatar] pointing a gun at me? [I respond: "haha yea... this is a threat by the way"]

Dizzy sees something on the computer screen which is what I'm reading these questions off of... he says: "wait... what does that say?" and moves in real close... [I read it off "Ok... so this guy asks... If the Broncos beat the Steelers this weekend they go to the Super Bowl. ?Well... I guess thats more of a statement than a question..."] ?Dizzy laughs... "umm... thanks for reminding me"

What is like sharing the keyboards nowadays with Chris Pittman?

Uhh... you know.. he adds so much to the band. ?He's a good guy to get along with. ?I've never had a problem with him of any kind. ?I'm a team player man... I'm always up for whats best for the whole raw picture. ?on tour.. you know... he just accents what we do so... I'm all for it.

You and Chris wrote the song Silkworms, is that correct?

Umm... it was passed back and forth on our computers. ?[I chime in "computers?"] yea.. you know, we do a lot of work now on computers. ?We pass it back and forth and I had a couple riffs so... yea.

Is that song [Silkworms] expected to be on the album?

No. ?It kind of went away. ?I mean we actually played it a few times live... but... I'm sure it'll up at some point.

What do you miss most from the old Guns N' Roses?

I miss being in my 20s... [I wait like I'm expecting a real answer] [Dizzy smiles:] ... that's what I miss most...

What is your opinion about the new Guns N' Roses?

"I think in a lot of ways its a better band than the old band. the best band... the lineup that we had in 2002 is the best band that I ever played with. [I chime in: "in terms of technical skill?"] skill.. and yea... the whole performance- everything."

Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody. ?Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so. ?I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

Is there a plan for G'n'R to tour again this year? ?I hear rumors you guys might be appearing at Rock in Rio this year... you know... another random rumor.

If the record comes out... I hope we tour.

What is the story behind the 2002 tour abruptly stopping- you know after the Madison Square Garden shows?

Sorry- I can't talk about that.

Are you pursuing a film career? ?Any films in the works? Any in the future?

umm.. I've been delving into a little acting, yes. i hope i do some cool things in the future- that'd be great... so... look for me in movies- yes.

What was the deal with Buckethead departing in March 2004? ?You know... right before Rock in Rio Lisbon.
[Dizzy starts to answer... I interject:] And why does he wear a bucket on his head?

That question I can't answer but the other I can just say its issues, issues, issues... that's it.

I guess this is more of a private question but is Axl in good emotional health to able to tour again?

Yes. Of course he is. Yes. ?[5 sec delay while I look for the next question on fan board] ?Why wouldn't he be?

[as I'm pulling up the next question... Dizzy interjects staring at the computer screen (we're on the mygnr questions thread I created a while back):] Guns N' Donuts! wow- I haven't seen that one.

Have you yourself ever considered leaving Guns N' Roses?

Umm... no. ?Never.

What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]
[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.

Is the current band expected to do covers of the members former bands songs? You know... Replacements, Hookers N Blow, Nine Inch Nails...?

Hookers N Blow is a cover band so that'd be ultimately redundant.. [everyone the room laughs]
Umm.. you know.. I don't think those songs have any place in Guns N' Roses... it'd be weird so... No.






3/4 there!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 26, 2006, 03:01:12 PM
For all you haters on this thread, just don't post here. ?Leave it to the people who actually believe the story. ? I know this is for real as well, so just give the guy a break and be patient. ?

madagascar88 ?- ?some people just don't believe anything. ?The part about the picture being fake just cracks me up. ?People find anyway they can to not believe something.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 26, 2006, 03:17:15 PM
Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

Possibly it's something to do with this one?

Quote
It has already warned that it will take a ?170m exceptional charge when it unveils its longdelayed annual results for the year to last September, which are due by the end of this week.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Nytunz on January 26, 2006, 03:17:49 PM
Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

Possibly it's something to do with this one?

Quote
It has already warned that it will take a ?170m exceptional charge when it unveils its longdelayed annual results for the year to last September, which are due by the end of this week.

aha! Yeah, you already told  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Almost Famous on January 26, 2006, 03:23:30 PM
Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

Possibly it's something to do with this one?

Quote
It has already warned that it will take a ?170m exceptional charge when it unveils its longdelayed annual results for the year to last September, which are due by the end of this week.

aha! Yeah, you already told  : ok:

Right on. Looks like that can be put to rest then. Danke schoen.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 26, 2006, 03:47:56 PM
For all you haters on this thread, just don't post here. ?Leave it to the people who actually believe the story. ? I know this is for real as well, so just give the guy a break and be patient. ?

madagascar88 ?- ?some people just don't believe anything. ?The part about the picture being fake just cracks me up. ?People find anyway they can to not believe something.

Don't worry, this is my last post on the thread but you probably never even looked at the pictures. All of them except that one look fine. But, that one with the crown looks completely hideous.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 26, 2006, 03:50:34 PM

Don't worry, this is my last post on the thread but you probably never even looked at the pictures. All of them except that one look fine. But, that one with the crown looks completely hideous.

That just doesn't make any sense.  Either they are all fake or none are fake.  But the fraternity wouldn't post 31 real pictures and 1 fake one.  What would be the point of faking one picture when you have plenty of legit ones?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 26, 2006, 03:53:52 PM
By the way, that picture of Dizzy Reed with the crown on looks entirely fake. I'll have to look at the rest of the pictures and inspect for anything unusual.
you'd have to be entirely crazy to think any of the pictures are "photoshopped"... god lord, get a life if that idea even runs through your head

if u want more pictures of Dizzy wearing that king crown... Kelly (a brother's girlfriend) will be updating the website pictures section tonight as soon as she finds her digital camera->USB connector.

The crown looks fake here too :hihi: . http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/pictures/afterparty06/images/13.jpg

Before you freak out, just chill for a second and read my post. I'm gonna give you the benifit of the doubt, take Sinshine's advice, and say it's really cool that you got to meet and hang out with Dizzy. : ok:

I can see where the photo's look doctored cuz the camera that was used gives off this really weird silhouette/shadow thing, but I realize they prolly aren't cuz there are way to many of them. Now that I've said I think the photos are real I'm gonna go back to the crown, the light from the flash does make it look "funny".

You haven't responded to the aparent message posted by Dizzy's wife:

Quote from: Lisa Reed
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but alot of it is not

What parts did you embellish? just the thing about GnR getting back together? Just curious cuz seriously i totally beleived the first part of the interview, but the second part didn't even seem like it was the same interview. Or does Lisa just not know the whole story?

We're all dying for GnR news on here cuz we get so little of it, and if there is the merest shadow of a doubt then you get slammed. I have no idea anymore if this is true or not but until i get hardcore proof it's not then I'm gonna assume that it has a ring of truth to it. I look forward to part three dude :peace:

don't u guys have more important things to talk about? ?such as the email from Dizzy I received? ?god... I'm so pumped right now 'cause... it looks like Chinese Democracys is truly being staged for release.

lastly did you send a copy of the email to Jarmo to confirm it's legit? cuz that would go along way to proove you aren't lying, and what makes you so firmly beleive that the album will be coming out shortly?

Cheers :beer:

Neemo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 26, 2006, 04:20:00 PM
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What parts did you embellish? just the thing about GnR getting back together?

I think he said nothing of the sort in the suppossedly embellished bit.  ???

Santuary (which division I have no idea) apparently has some big meeting tomorrow in NY. Seems hush-hush.

Mysteron? Can I borrow a light?

Possibly it's something to do with this one?

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It has already warned that it will take a ?170m exceptional charge when it unveils its longdelayed annual results for the year to last September, which are due by the end of this week.

aha! Yeah, you already told  : ok:

Right on. Looks like that can be put to rest then. Danke schoen.
Well still that can be related to the "upcoming event" in question.
Maybe some announcement, but not about the release date? ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 26, 2006, 04:28:27 PM
reserved for part III.

 ??? ???

Why?

Are you trying to build up suspense?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Evolution on January 26, 2006, 04:29:19 PM
Dizzy looks well in the pictures  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: GNfnR2 on January 26, 2006, 05:20:41 PM
How come Dizzy Reed joined a Frat again?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 05:25:24 PM
By the way, that picture of Dizzy Reed with the crown on looks entirely fake. I'll have to look at the rest of the pictures and inspect for anything unusual.
you'd have to be entirely crazy to think any of the pictures are "photoshopped"... god lord, get a life if that idea even runs through your head

if u want more pictures of Dizzy wearing that king crown... Kelly (a brother's girlfriend) will be updating the website pictures section tonight as soon as she finds her digital camera->USB connector.

The crown looks fake here too :hihi: . http://www.psiofzetapsi.org/pictures/afterparty06/images/13.jpg

Before you freak out, just chill for a second and read my post. I'm gonna give you the benifit of the doubt, take Sinshine's advice, and say it's really cool that you got to meet and hang out with Dizzy. : ok:

I can see where the photo's look doctored cuz the camera that was used gives off this really weird silhouette/shadow thing, but I realize they prolly aren't cuz there are way to many of them. Now that I've said I think the photos are real I'm gonna go back to the crown, the light from the flash does make it look "funny".

You haven't responded to the aparent message posted by Dizzy's wife:

Quote from: Lisa Reed
I believe that interview is HIGHLY embelleshed to make the frat boy look better, maybe he just added stuff to make it sound better since he wasn't getting much info. Some of the stuff is most likely true, but alot of it is not

What parts did you embellish? just the thing about GnR getting back together? Just curious cuz seriously i totally beleived the first part of the interview, but the second part didn't even seem like it was the same interview. Or does Lisa just not know the whole story?

We're all dying for GnR news on here cuz we get so little of it, and if there is the merest shadow of a doubt then you get slammed. I have no idea anymore if this is true or not but until i get hardcore proof it's not then I'm gonna assume that it has a ring of truth to it. I look forward to part three dude :peace:

don't u guys have more important things to talk about? ?such as the email from Dizzy I received? ?god... I'm so pumped right now 'cause... it looks like Chinese Democracys is truly being staged for release.

lastly did you send a copy of the email to Jarmo to confirm it's legit? cuz that would go along way to proove you aren't lying, and what makes you so firmly beleive that the album will be coming out shortly?

Cheers :beer:

Neemo

the stuff about that crown being fake cracks me up... I'm gonna tell Mo (he's one who owns it) that his crown is not photogenic at all!

as for Lisa Reed's comments... I will say this- I personally do not earnest believe I "embellished" anything. ?If anything, I disembellished some stuff as I did not choose to include a lot of the conversations of the more private manner. ?

The 'confidential' section about Slash/Duff is entirely true... in the sense that it was most certainly said to me by Dizzy.  I retracted it before thinking that Dizzy might've been mad at me over it but as that's not the case, I reinstate it... but as it was a more private statement, I chose not to reinclude it into the posted interview.

The first part of the interview is not paraphrased because I just watched video recording and typed it up. This first part was taken from the first 15 minutes of my 30-minute interview with Dizzy.

The second part is taken entirely from the trip to the Pyramid Mall (in Ithaca) for lunch. ?It was a lunchtime conversation and so it was not recorded and is entirely taken from memory but I will say in my defense that I believe I represented everything said at that time in the purest manner.

The third part... which I'll post tonight at some point... is the second half of the 30-minute interview.

and if Jarmo PM's me asking for the email to be forwarded, I most certainly will.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 26, 2006, 05:31:42 PM
i think she was probably mad at Dizzy making out with girls


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 26, 2006, 05:57:26 PM
How come Dizzy Reed joined a Frat again?

He is looking to do what Tommy Lee did at Nebraska  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 26, 2006, 07:31:05 PM
i think she was probably mad at Dizzy making out with girls


   I don't know Madagascar88, I graduated from Binghamton University, which is pretty close to Cornell, and if my memory is correct, the Cornell chicks weren't that hot.   :hihi:   That's the only suspect part of the story.  ;D
   Seriously, like I've said before, keep up the good work.   : ok:
-Axl4Prez2004   


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 26, 2006, 08:05:43 PM
Okay, I thought about it...maybe Ithaca chicks?  (for those who aren't familiar, almost all "smart" schools like Cornell, have schools close-by where girls that aren't that smart can glom onto a smart, successful student from the "smart" school.  The genius chicks usually aren't as hot as the ones with just above-average intelligence...that's just the U.S., I don't know how it is in other countries...

Now, how about a little Part III action?   :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highvoltage on January 26, 2006, 08:19:34 PM
For what it's worth - i'm going to jump in here and say that Madagascar is not lying about this one - s'all true kids.

Did I just see me an ARC a couple pages back? :D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 08:24:40 PM
i think she was probably mad at Dizzy making out with girls

"making out" is an exaggeration which is why I deleted it from the thread.

it was more like college girls forced themselves on him and put him in an awkward enough position by which he could not refuse.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 26, 2006, 08:26:34 PM
For what it's worth - i'm going to jump in here and say that Madagascar is not lying about this one - s'all true kids.

Did I just see me an ARC a couple pages back? :D

What's an ARC?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highvoltage on January 26, 2006, 08:34:31 PM
For what it's worth - i'm going to jump in here and say that Madagascar is not lying about this one - s'all true kids.

Did I just see me an ARC a couple pages back? :D

What's an ARC?
He's a former mygnr member. Sorry for taking it off topic - continue.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: SINSHINE on January 26, 2006, 08:37:50 PM
? ?I don't know Madagascar88, I graduated from Binghamton University

Hey A4P...I graduated from Bing too...'99. What year are you?

LOL...small world.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 26, 2006, 09:35:12 PM
MADDY U A LAIR!

Those pictures are real... I'll give you that.. but that LAST ONE! THE ONE WITH THE CROWN! Totally fake. And because of that.. you must be lying about the interview.

 :hihi: Why would anyone post like 30 real pics and then a photoshopped one?

I've been saying this since the start, don't go bashing someone as a "fake" and flaming him when all signs point to him being right. I find it funny that certain people who called him a liar are now absent from the thread... :hihi: couldn't even apologize to the poor guy. Thanks Maddy for the interview and im looking forward to part 3. JARMO ASK HIM FOR THE EMAIL! Confirm that one =).

    -jack


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 09:52:49 PM
Part III is up on page 20.




Here's Part III supplemental since it couldn't fit into that post:

What do you think about modern day music?

like all music from... forever... I think 95 percent of its crap, 4 percent of its probably good and 1 percent of its great.  That's how its been for popular music... modern... for all of time.

What do you think of the rock scene though nowadays?

I think the record labels have pretty much squashed any kind of rock scene.  I mean umm... the underground stuff is cool.  The independent stuff is good.. its cool.  It can be by the trunkload- it doesn't have to be for everybody.  Everyone else is too busy being forcefed through the clearchanneling... by MTV and all their shit... and they don't wanna lose money so they just keep forcefeeding you.. like one or two songs and then they throw it away. That's how it is and its unfortunate.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ARC on January 26, 2006, 09:54:39 PM
For what it's worth - i'm going to jump in here and say that Madagascar is not lying about this one - s'all true kids.

Did I just see me an ARC a couple pages back? :D

What's an ARC?
He's a former mygnr member. Sorry for taking it off topic - continue.

HaHa. Wrong, actually. They have allowed me to be "read only"... Although, of course, it's not under the username "Axl Rose Child"...

Anyway...

Madagascar88 is a very cool guy. He has given me some cool information, which I will not reveal until he allows me to or he reveals it himself...

I will tell you this - IT IS FUCKING AWESOME...! ?:beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Evolution on January 26, 2006, 10:00:03 PM
Thanks for posting Madagascar88.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 10:14:26 PM
just so I don't get asked this anymore...

parts I & III are from an interview I did with Dizzy in my room which I videotaped. ?The questions were pulled from chinesedemocracy.com and mygnrforum.com. ?Some would've come from HTGTH but the website was down at the time for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: estrangedpaul on January 26, 2006, 10:22:29 PM
You said at the top of part III that part IV would be coming soon. Is part IV the supplemental bit to part 3 - those 2 questions you already posted. Or is part IV another seperate part. When will this amazing news be revealed like when will it happen/be announed or when will you be able to reveal it.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 10:26:57 PM
Part III is up on page 20.

You rock - thanks.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 26, 2006, 10:27:51 PM
the stuff about that crown being fake cracks me up... I'm gonna tell Mo (he's one who owns it) that his crown is not photogenic at all!

LOL :hihi: you do that. and is that thing like your frat house mascot or something. I just think its really weird to have a big red furry crown laying about.

Thanks for posting part 3 dude, it was pretty good. Although we are back to the whole "sorry can't talk about that" thing we are so used to reading.

Kinda weird that he never really talks or sees any of the Band, last time they were all together in one place was MSG '02!!??? wow, that's fucked up. I wonder how long they will have to practice together if they decide to tour again? And the line up from 2002 is the best band he ever played with? hmmm, that's a bold statement, I mean i was blown away when i saw them in 2002 and i never got to see gnr in the 80's-90's era so i can't compare, but Slash, Duff and to a lesser extent matt had huge pressence on stage when i saw VR. It's possible that buckethead may be a better technical player but Slash just drew my eyes, he has about as much stage pressence as Axl IMHO.

I hope the answer about Axl's mental stability puts all the discussion about that topic to rest.

And silkworms is still an album possibility??!!! :nervous:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 10:38:27 PM
the stuff about that crown being fake cracks me up... I'm gonna tell Mo (he's one who owns it) that his crown is not photogenic at all!
And the line up from 2002 is the best band he ever played with? hmmm, that's a bold statement, I mean i was blown away when i saw them in 2002 and i never got to see gnr in the 80's-90's era so i can't compare, but Slash, Duff and to a lesser extent matt had huge pressence on stage when i saw VR. It's possible that buckethead may be a better technical player but Slash just drew my eyes, he has about as much stage pressence as Axl IMHO.

I think Dizzy wouldn't be one to say anything bad about Axl as a performer.

But I guess having a setlist and a more mature frontman made things easier for him in 2001-2002 than they were in the old days.

However, it's easy to see why some fans still prefer the spontaneity and randomness of the old band's performances.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 26, 2006, 10:59:37 PM
Great interview Maddie88. Fantastic job.

I'm so happy that the band knows these forums are still alive.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 26, 2006, 11:12:12 PM
The last part was my fav installment.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 26, 2006, 11:14:00 PM
 ? I for one, can't wait for part IV of the interview trilogy. ? ;D

 ? Madagascar88, thanks for the great stuff. ?CD is coming soon! ?When I buy this album, I may have tears in my eyes. ?I might even have my wife videotape the experience...

 ?Seriously, Maddy88, you should have suggested to Dizzy Taughannock Falls up near Ithaca as a locale for a kick-ass GNR video. ?It has a beautiful "out of this world" feel to it.

 ?Also, the "never all being together since '02" doesn't surprise me one bit. ?Nothing about this interview smacks me as being fake, and I think alot of folks around here may be eating some crow in the coming weeks. ? ;)

 ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Eppe on January 26, 2006, 11:15:06 PM
Thank You Madagascar88! ?: ok:

I'm sure most of us appreciate what you're doing. Don't let the ones who don't to put you down.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: damnthehaters on January 26, 2006, 11:23:39 PM
Where's jamesloften and leesixxrose now?   ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 26, 2006, 11:27:08 PM
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"I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"

That's from Richard's site - it was taken during the European leg of the 2002 tour.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: redarmy76 on January 26, 2006, 11:34:34 PM
Thanks alot, I can't believe that this event got blown so far out of proportion.

Looking forward to the last installment


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jazjme on January 27, 2006, 12:06:12 AM
Thats for posting this MAD88. Its been a very cool read, and looking forward to seen the rest. Just reading al of it thus far, has my skin getting goosebumps in anticipation of at least something good to come soon.ROck on ! :peace: : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: noizzynofuture on January 27, 2006, 12:15:16 AM
WHERE'S JAMESLOFTON ??????????

James, your posts are usually negative, but for the most part i usually agree with the things you spew.

You really SHIT THE BED in this thread with your ridiculous posts   : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 27, 2006, 12:43:18 AM
Where's jamesloften and leesixxrose now?? ?;D

still here.. still reading... i still dont belive all that shit about the VR members wanting to reunite or that he has any "inside info" ... coz i belive that at the end of this week, next week, this month, next month.. when ever there is still going to be no event that give any news to CD release or a tour...

The part where Dizzy says they havent all been in the same room since MSG is just sad to me... what kind of a band is this???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on January 27, 2006, 12:52:19 AM
Where's jamesloften and leesixxrose now?? ?;D

still here.. still reading... i still dont belive all that shit about the VR members wanting to reunite or that he has any "inside info" ... coz i belive that at the end of this week, next week, this month, next month.. when ever there is still going to be no event that give any news to CD release or a tour...

The part where Dizzy says they havent all been in the same room since MSG is just sad to me... what kind of a band is this???

If ya dont like it dont read it man. Simple as that.


 :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on January 27, 2006, 01:26:58 AM
Where's jamesloften and leesixxrose now?? ?;D

still here.. still reading... i still dont belive all that shit about the VR members wanting to reunite or that he has any "inside info" ... coz i belive that at the end of this week, next week, this month, next month.. when ever there is still going to be no event that give any news to CD release or a tour...

The part where Dizzy says they havent all been in the same room since MSG is just sad to me... what kind of a band is this???

If ya dont like it dont read it man. Simple as that.


 :peace:

Thanks for the tip! :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 27, 2006, 01:37:29 AM
Which version do you prefer ?

1) Madagascar88 although being a fool didn't lie. Reed's words are true, but unacceptable for any GN'R fan.

2) Madagascar88 did a fake interview. Which implies that is an asshole (sorry Jarmo, I can't find another word for this kind of thing).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 27, 2006, 01:39:29 AM
Which version do you prefer ?

1) Madagascar88 although being a fool didn't lie. Reed's words are true, but unacceptable for a GN'R fan.

2) Madagascar88 did a fake interview. Which implies is an asshole (sorry Jarmo, I can't find another word for this kind of thing).

How bout the one where were actually grateful for the interview and quit acting like jackasses?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 27, 2006, 01:41:02 AM
Which version do you prefer ?

1) Madagascar88 although being a fool didn't lie. Reed's words are true, but unacceptable for a GN'R fan.

2) Madagascar88 did a fake interview. Which implies is an asshole (sorry Jarmo, I can't find another word for this kind of thing).

How bout the one where were actually grateful for the interview and quit acting like jackasses?
You start.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on January 27, 2006, 01:43:43 AM
I will tell you all a few quick things I know. ?It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time, and will until it happens. ?I would bet the house that it will at some point. ?Way, way, way too much money on the line for it not to.

Secondly, why did this college grad, who is no doubt a bright lad, let the whole world know about this? ?No common sense whatsover. ?Just completely blew this for Dizzy. ?And blew his chance for inside info, and priveliged treatment down the road. ?It's one thing to talk about it, but quite another to completely document this whole thing. ?Not bright at all!!

But, for God's sake, what is Dizzy doing at a frat house, knowing that 18 year olds do not have great judgement and will discuss this publically ?(was he really saying all these kinds of things)? ?I know he was maybe trying to be nice, or wanted to revisit his college (wild booze laden, speed driven, orgy) day's again, but this is the kind of stuff that can destroy reputations. ?Not a brilliant move. ?It really makes one question how serious this new band is, or if there really is any current movement towards a release of live dates??? ?If they were getting ready for a release, their publicist would have squashed Dizzy's frat party attendance in one second--or at least told him: ?"no interviews, pictures, or videotaped interviews for sure. ?Dizzy would not have made this kind of a trip if the album was being prepped. ?Really weird, although it could end up being a brilliant PR move in some whacked-out, GNR way???

I think that we could hear some of the new bands' work this year, but I would imagine the next time we see GNR live, it will be the original band, maybe without Dizzy after this weird move.

Who knows, I am just hypothesizing.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Crashdiet on January 27, 2006, 01:52:45 AM
Fuck dizzy was probably just out for a fun time, had a cocktail too many and got a little loose lipped because he liked the young lad.

Leave the guy along. its not like dizzy said 'axl likes having anal sex with male midgets dressed up in turtle suits' or anything. he didn't really give that much info at all.

whille entertaining...definitely not something someone would make up or get kicked out of a band for.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on January 27, 2006, 01:54:07 AM
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but I would imagine the next time we see GNR live, it will be the original band, maybe without Dizzy after this weird move.


Huh? I'm sorry but that is just so wildly imaginative and liberally erroneous, I have to get Chomsky on the phone.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 27, 2006, 02:15:55 AM
I will tell you all a few quick things I know. ?It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time, and will until it happens. ?I would bet the house that it will at some point. ?Way, way, way too much money on the line for it not to.

Secondly, why did this college grad, who is no doubt a bright lad, let the whole world know about this? ?No common sense whatsover. ?Just completely blew this for Dizzy. ?And blew his chance for inside info, and priveliged treatment down the road. ?It's one thing to talk about it, but quite another to completely document this whole thing. ?Not bright at all!!

But, for God's sake, what is Dizzy doing at a frat house, knowing that 18 year olds do not have great judgement and will discuss this publically ?(was he really saying all these kinds of things)? ?I know he was maybe trying to be nice, or wanted to revisit his college (wild booze laden, speed driven, orgy) day's again, but this is the kind of stuff that can destroy reputations. ?Not a brilliant move. ?It really makes one question how serious this new band is, or if there really is any current movement towards a release of live dates??? ?If they were getting ready for a release, their publicist would have squashed Dizzy's frat party attendance in one second--or at least told him: ?"no interviews, pictures, or videotaped interviews for sure. ?Dizzy would not have made this kind of a trip if the album was being prepped. ?Really weird, although it could end up being a brilliant PR move in some whacked-out, GNR way???

I think that we could hear some of the new bands' work this year, but I would imagine the next time we see GNR live, it will be the original band, maybe without Dizzy after this weird move.

Who knows, I am just hypothesizing.

There is going to be no reunion.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 27, 2006, 02:19:40 AM
There is going to be no reunion.
There is going to be no Guns n'Roses.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Saul on January 27, 2006, 02:29:24 AM
There is going to be no reunion.
There is going to be no Guns n'Roses.

Not without Paul Tobias at the very least.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Chief on January 27, 2006, 02:43:07 AM
whatever you say but the one thing i've learned from being a GNR fan is that you never know what is going to happen and i can't wait to see what we've all been waiting for, for so long!!!

There is going to be no reunion.
There is going to be no Guns n'Roses.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 27, 2006, 02:48:35 AM
Paul Tobias and Dizzy Reed are both very important.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 27, 2006, 06:41:59 AM
but compared to chris pittman they`re useless....

well... great interview thanks!!!   by the way funny that it got almost as many replies as the "axl speaks" thread   and most of them are just insults or bullshit :hihi:

i believed from start that this guy was telling the truth (well not about every detail, but that he at least spoke to dizzel....) i think it`s impossible to be THAT bored and spend that much time just to fuck over some gnr fans on a message board......if that was the case he really should get a life :hihi:

and about the band not being in a room together since '02..... i guess the question was about the WHOLE band (including axl)...   the other members met for sure. tommy and richard played songs together and i believe there were rehearsals for rio in `04(??)    but in the end it doesn`t matter.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jazjme on January 27, 2006, 10:09:50 AM
THat a good point , cause richard played with tommy and dizzy in the span of a week here in NY , lil over a yr ago.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 27, 2006, 10:37:47 AM
What makes me suspect this interview may not be legit other than in part 2 the whole confidential information thing & holding out on the supposed BIG announcement......

If you are paraphrasing it instead of word for word ( which if the interview actally happened can mis interpret what Dizzy actually said) Dizzy's interjections were quoted ( uhhh, hmmmm, etc.)

Im not calling Madagascar88 a liar, just pointing out stuff which makes me suspect this could be a fabrication. I wasnt there so I cant say with certainty.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: chineseblues on January 27, 2006, 10:45:49 AM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.  : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on January 27, 2006, 11:14:58 AM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.? : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?   "Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.   A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.  Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.  It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.  You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.  Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.  To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.  But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).  Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.  I think the album maybe released, with no tour.  The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Almost Famous on January 27, 2006, 11:24:23 AM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.  : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?   "Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.   A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.  Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.  It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.  You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.  Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.  To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.  But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).  Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.  I think the album maybe released, with no tour.  The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


But doesn't the record company/management, etc make far more in profit from touring than from album sales? Is the album not just a 'hook' to get people to buy concert tickets?

What I'm saying is, would that fly nowadays, as it did in the days of the Beatles?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 27, 2006, 11:29:38 AM
Quote
But doesn't the record company/management, etc make far more in profit from touring than from album sales? Is the album not just a 'hook' to get people to buy concert tickets?
na, i think the band gets all the cash from the touring...



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 27, 2006, 11:42:57 AM
management makes money from touring! I don't know about the record company but management certainly does. Axl doesn't book the gigs and negotiate the rates by himself.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 27, 2006, 11:48:41 AM
management makes money from touring! I don't know about the record company but management certainly does. Axl doesn't book the gigs and negotiate the rates by himself.

i don`t think the record company makes money out of the concerts.   but well...i don`t know shit :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 27, 2006, 11:54:21 AM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.? : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?? ?"Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.? ?A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.? Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.? It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.? You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.? Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.? To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.? But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).? Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.? I think the album maybe released, with no tour.? The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


Its not going to happen. Slash already said he would not reunite with Axl right now. So stop with this, its just not going to happen.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 27, 2006, 11:58:14 AM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.? : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?? ?"Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.? ?A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.? Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.? It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.? You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.? Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.? To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.? But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).? Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.? I think the album maybe released, with no tour.? The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


Its not going to happen. Slash already said he would not reunite with Axl right now. So stop with this, its just not going to happen.

when did he said that?

and what do you think would happen if axl`d actually ask? :hihi:   i`m not saying he would do it then.....but he`d definitely think about it....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on January 27, 2006, 12:06:21 PM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.? : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?? ?"Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.? ?A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.? Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.? It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.? You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.? Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.? To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.? But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).? Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.? I think the album maybe released, with no tour.? The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


Its not going to happen. Slash already said he would not reunite with Axl right now. So stop with this, its just not going to happen.

Please Dave, and some others, read the full post before making an untruthful response. ?I am not implying a reuninon is IMMINENT. ?I am saying, that at some point in the next ten years, it most likely will happen. ?Some of you need to read the full posts, before making your pre-conceived comments. ?It is really frustrating, and the lack of rational thinking drives away those who will provide valid insight into Chinese Democracy, and the current band. ?Please, try to comprehend, use logic, avoid insults, and think before throwing out rabid posts full of nothing but garrulous non-sense. ?There are people who read this board, willing to share information, but will not because of the irrational nature of many that post here. ?It is a very small minority of posters (and Dave, I replied to your post, but am not referring to you in particular), but after reading some of these threads, it is quite apparent that their are some fairly quad-polar morons who are more than likely missing some neurological pathways. ?I am not necessarily endorsing labotomies, but maybe a few reading comprehension courses and lithium orotate would help:) ;) :) : ok:

I want to clarify again: ?I am not saying there will be any kind of near term reunion, but at some point in the future I would imagine it is a likelihood. : ok:

Peace, and TGIF!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 27, 2006, 12:08:40 PM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.? : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?? ?"Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.? ?A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.? Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.? It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.? You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.? Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.? To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.? But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).? Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.? I think the album maybe released, with no tour.? The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


Its not going to happen. Slash already said he would not reunite with Axl right now. So stop with this, its just not going to happen.

Please Dave, and some others, read the full post before making an untruthful response. ?I am not implying a reuninon is IMMINENT. ?I am saying, that at some point in the next ten years, it most likely will happen. ?Some of you need to read the full posts, before making your pre-conceived comments. ?It is really frustrating, and the lack of rational thinking drives away those who will provide valid insight into Chinese Democracy, and the current band. ?Please, try to comprehend, use logic, avoid insults, and think before throwing out rabid posts full of nothing but garrulous non-sense. ?There are people who read this board, willing to share information, but will not because of the irrational nature of many that post here. ?It is a very small minority of posters (and Dave, I replied to your post, but am not referring to you in particular), but after reading some of these threads, it is quite apparent that their are some fairly quad-polar morons who are more than likely missing some neurological pathways. ?I am not necessarily endorsing labotomies, but maybe a few reading comprehension courses and lithium orotate would help:) ;) :) : ok:

I want to clarify again: ?I am not saying there will be any kind of near term reunion, but at some point in the future I would imagine it is a likelihood. : ok:

Peace, and TGIF!!

You said the next time gnr play live it will be with the old band minus Dizzy, so what did you mean by that?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 27, 2006, 12:37:57 PM
i don`t think that the next gnr show will include skash and duff, but it`s even mor unrealistic that itwill happen wihtout dizzy then i think.....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on January 27, 2006, 12:47:27 PM
It is well known that both sides of management float the reunion thing out there, and have for quite some time

That statement right there throws your credibility right out the window and null's the rest of your post. Do you honestly think that guns management would be pulling for a reunion when they have so much on the line right now? Don't think so. That and the fact that Axl would probably kill them for even thinking it.? : ok:

Who said they are "pulling" for a reunion?? ?"Floating" means, it is mentioned every now and then, on purpose, just to get a little sense of the other camp's position and feeling is at the time.? ?A little smell test of sorts. It most likely is done without many people even knowing it happens (i am sure Axl is not always aware), and sometimes not even done on purpose.? Maybe buddies from both camps get together and talk, and discuss the possibility of working together again in the future, and if they think this would be plausible.? It happens, and it has happened, and it will continue to happen.? You have to be from Mars, or do not understand the industry, to think that this has not been "floated" out their and discussed.? Trust me, and I am not trying to be condescending at all, but my post is the most rational in this string of irrational obsession.? To clarify, I am sure the current Mgt. team is focused on getting Chinese Democracy into the record stores, to start making some money.

Like I said, who knows what happens.? But I would assume, that at some point, in some way we will see a reunion (anyone inside the business, albeit Sanctuary and Universal knows this).? Moreover, I don't know if we will see the album, and if we do, I guess we may see the new band tour, but it increasingly seems from their various comments that they are kind of on the outside looking in.? I think the album maybe released, with no tour.? The Beatles did this from Sgt. Peppers onward--album, no tour.


Its not going to happen. Slash already said he would not reunite with Axl right now. So stop with this, its just not going to happen.

Please Dave, and some others, read the full post before making an untruthful response. ?I am not implying a reuninon is IMMINENT. ?I am saying, that at some point in the next ten years, it most likely will happen. ?Some of you need to read the full posts, before making your pre-conceived comments. ?It is really frustrating, and the lack of rational thinking drives away those who will provide valid insight into Chinese Democracy, and the current band. ?Please, try to comprehend, use logic, avoid insults, and think before throwing out rabid posts full of nothing but garrulous non-sense. ?There are people who read this board, willing to share information, but will not because of the irrational nature of many that post here. ?It is a very small minority of posters (and Dave, I replied to your post, but am not referring to you in particular), but after reading some of these threads, it is quite apparent that their are some fairly quad-polar morons who are more than likely missing some neurological pathways. ?I am not necessarily endorsing labotomies, but maybe a few reading comprehension courses and lithium orotate would help:) ;) :) : ok:

I want to clarify again: ?I am not saying there will be any kind of near term reunion, but at some point in the future I would imagine it is a likelihood. : ok:

Peace, and TGIF!!

You said the next time gnr play live it will be with the old band minus Dizzy, so what did you mean by that?

Read please, that is not what I said.  Here is exactly, verbatim what I said (note the definition of "hypothesizing.")  Go back to my original post if you want to confirm.  This is my last post, clarifying what I said.  I would really recomend utilizing objectivity, and attempting not to take things out of context in the future.  It will ensure that those on the inside will be more confident in giving some advanced info to the GNR fans at this site.

"I think that we could hear some of the new bands' work this year, but I would imagine the next time we see GNR live, it will be the original band, maybe without Dizzy after this weird move.

Who knows, I am just hypothesizing."


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Markus Asraelius on January 27, 2006, 01:02:02 PM
I said I would never post in this thread again but I lied.

I just want to say sorry to madagascar88 for doubting him and especially the PM I sent you. I am sorry. I am not saying I believe every single thing you post but I do now believe you are legit...

Your interview and (30 of 31 pictures) are very interesting to look into and I'm sure everybody will agree, we're interesting in the 4th installment.

By the way, did anybody notice that Dizzy Reed looks kinda like a vampire? He looks like he's thristy for blood...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on January 27, 2006, 01:29:24 PM
I said I would never post in this thread again but I lied.

I just want to say sorry to madagascar88 for doubting him and especially the PM I sent you. I am sorry. I am not saying I believe every single thing you post but I do now believe you are legit...

Your interview and (30 of 31 pictures) are very interesting to look into and I'm sure everybody will agree, we're interesting in the 4th installment.

By the way, did anybody notice that Dizzy Reed looks kinda like a vampire? He looks like he's thristy for blood...

I want to also say this:  I recant on my earlier post saying this was a bad move by Dizzy.  I actually think this is super, super cool after viewing those pictures.  He made those guy's year, and they will have this pledge to remember the rest of their lives.  It is very cool to see them, also, getting to jam with him!! 

The only thing that disturbed me, was the lack of common sense, when quoting Dizzy.  I think, basically, that an eighteen year old kid made a judgement mistake, but no harm no foul.  I think Dizzy, also, is handling this fine. 

Madagascar88, that was pretty groovy to get the Dizzmaster to play at your house.  Best of wishes to all.

I still think there will be a reunion in the next ten years (I think, don't know for sure, no sources--Hypothetically speaking), with Dizzy involved.  Now that the smoke has cleared a little, this whole deal looks a little more harmless.

I love the fact that Dizzy went out to see these kid's, pretty cool!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 27, 2006, 01:30:56 PM
Wow! Great answers. Ta, M88! :D

Quote
the best band... the lineup that we had in 2002 is the best band that I ever played with.

Jolly good!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 27, 2006, 02:17:49 PM
Ok....photoshopping 36 pics would be very difficult! Diddn't mean to give you a hard time Madagascar88. Just wasn't your best move to paraphrase thinks and embellish where there was no need to. You even got Lisa Reed's attention with the interview! Looking forward to part 4.

I hope Journalism is not your major  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on January 27, 2006, 06:00:27 PM
Here is your big Sanctuary event.  I wonder if it's related to anything guns, or everybody getting their severance package and walking papers.

http://www.velvetrope.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=735671&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=2&fpart=1


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 27, 2006, 06:11:20 PM
I hope Journalism is not your major  :hihi:
I wish Journalism was the major of many rock writers.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 27, 2006, 10:32:16 PM
I hope Journalism is not your major? :hihi:
I wish Journalism was the major of many rock writers.? :hihi:

I think it was Frank Zappa who said :

"Rock journalism is about people who can't speak, written by people who can't write, for people who can't read" or something similar..  ;)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 28, 2006, 07:12:16 AM
I can't believe that noone has commented this part:

Quote
What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]

If it's true than someone missed the Philly riot...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dolphin on January 28, 2006, 11:08:57 AM
Not only that, but Dizzy says Axl is mentally stable to tour, but admits that he doesn't hang out with anyone but the members of H&B

So how can Dizzy make that deduction about Axl if he hasn't even seen him? ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jarmo on January 28, 2006, 11:42:57 AM
I can't believe that noone has commented this part:

Quote
What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]

If it's true than someone missed the Philly riot...


Maybe not all band members were in Philadelphia....



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on January 28, 2006, 12:33:31 PM
That's what I was talking about. Maybe the 'ill' bandmember failed to arrive...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: geographicaloddity on January 28, 2006, 02:04:06 PM
Not only that, but Dizzy says Axl is mentally stable to tour, but admits that he doesn't hang out with anyone but the members of H&B

So how can Dizzy make that deduction about Axl if he hasn't even seen him? ???
you don't have to hang out with someone on a daily basis to know how they are doing. I go weeks without seeing my best  friends but still talk to them inbetween and know if they are healthy or not


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 28, 2006, 02:54:32 PM
I can't believe that noone has commented this part:

Quote
What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]

If it's true than someone missed the Philly riot...


Maybe not all band members were in Philadelphia....



/jarmo

yeah   pretty safe to say   axl wasn`t there :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 28, 2006, 03:17:32 PM
That's what I was talking about. Maybe the 'ill' bandmember failed to arrive...

I think it's common knowledge now that Axl didn't show.............for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 28, 2006, 04:03:57 PM
Part IV

There are rumors that Shaq- Shaquille O'Neal rapped on the album at Axl's request.

I don't know if anything's happened since... but I jammed with Shaq.  At one point I was down at this rehearsal... this rehearsal place in Santa Monica writing songs with Paul [Tobias].  And my friend Syd was playing drums- just drumming for us.  We were basically just writing and recording stuff- writing and recording constantly, just basically waiting for everyone else to basically show up. And there are these satellite recording studios around that soundstage and they do a lot of commercials and back when Shaq was still with the Orlando Magic- he was doing a Taco Bell commercial next door so he heard that we were next door so he wanted to come say hi... but there like the only one there is Dizzy so he says 'well, I'll say hi to Dizzy' so the door opens and this gigantic man comes in and I'm like 'who the hell's that?' and he's like 'hey dizzy!' and he's getting closer and closer and bigger and bigger- I realize its fuckin' Shaquille O'Neal. Holy shit.  So.. we talked for a little bit and then he asked me to play my keyboard and I said 'sure' and he sat down and disintegrated my stool... smashed it into little pieces [everyone laughs]... granted shaking Shaq's hand is like shaking a frying pan [I ask what that means] ... well.. I mean its so big [Dizzy shows how difficult it would be to shake a frying pan] Anyway, so he breaks my stool into little pieces and he looks at me and goes 'man, I broke Guns N' Roses' stool.' And I say 'yea, we'll send you a bill for that later' and he doesn't say anything and so I'm like "just kidding..." And so we got him another stool and he sits down and starts playing this... polysynth [?] sound... this riff on my keyboards... and it was really cool.  And so... I look over at the drummer and motion for him to.. you know... get a hiphop beat going... and Syd goes into this groove... and Shaq started vibin' on it and Paul started playing guitar... and Shaq looks over at me... and like this magic thing happened- he says 'take over' and so I watch what he's playing and I sat down and started playing it. And he got this groove- this vibe going and he and his buddies grabbed the mic and started doing this rap.  And our engineer Tommy was rolling tape the entire time... so... and I mean it was really cool... I mean the time he was just joking around and they started dancing and they danced their way out of the studio and we kept playing the beat 'cause it was cool and they came back in, sort of like an encore, and did some more stuff. like Shaq started doing the worm- I mean if you've ever seen a 7 foot... 300 pound guy do the worm... its the most amazing thing.  And they bailed.  It was the most amazing thing. And I mean I don't know if anything's happened since then but that's probably where that story comes from.

Ok, speaking of guest musicians, there are also rumors that Brian May, lead guitarist of Queen, was asked to play some guitar on some of the songs for Chinese Democracy and was afterwards also given an invitation by Axl Rose to join the band as lead guitarist?

I'm not sure about the latter part but yes, Brian did come by and play a couple songs.

There was a cover a while back... I mean, this question can't really describe it very well but... [Dizzy chimes in: "the bicycle?"] ... yea... the bicycle and its in China... is that...?

at one point, that was going to be the cover of the record- I'm not sure if it's now.  This one guy... he was my keyboard tech at the time... Michael... and I mean he was in China at the time and he saw that and took a picture and showed it to Axl.

Why has Axl's voice changed so much between the Use Your Illusion tours and the 2001/2002 tours?

I don't think he has personally.  I think he still sounds like Axl still.  I think that its better... stronger... he's not having to compete with amps that are thousand [?..] so... that makes it easier, heh.

Does Axl treat you- you being yourself and the rest of the band, as bandmates or employees?

you know- Axl is very much into having a band. and he's one of the fairest, coolest, nicest guys that I've ever met... and that's just a fact.  And I mean he treats us as band members but at the same time with any situation like that... there's always one person that's more important and you know is in charge and you have to know whose in charge. In every band, in every successful band, has a leader... he's the leader.

Going back to that then, is the album more of a collaborative effort or is it the Axl Rose show?

No, it's collaborative, yes. [Dizzy says this with conviction- responding immediately]

[something on the screen, one of the avatar's on the mygnrforum catches Dizzy's eye again- he stares at it a second and says: "what is that?" ... its an avatar that depicts the members of the new-GnR... he looks through it... "well... there's Tommy, Brain, Richard, me..." - I ask him "well... this is the band so obviously one of these guys is Chris Pittman." Dizzy answers: "but its not. and there's no Robin unless thats Robin with a mustache."  I ask him "is that one of the pictures you took when you were doing some modeling?" Dizzy answers "yea."

In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]

Would you be willing to talk about the tracklisting on the album?  Not in terms of the actual material but your opinion of the individual songs?

yea... but the thing is that I haven't heard of it in so long that... I don't know what changes its going through- what's happening.  I'm not even sure what they're called [Dizzy laughs]



Dizzy at this point asks for a piss break which I took as sign he didn't want any more questions.  Respecting the fact that I had been basically drilling him for almost an hour now- I call off the interview and we go out to the bars.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: anythinggoes on January 28, 2006, 04:16:37 PM
reserved for part IV
hi there thanks for this interview pretty cool when will you be postin part 4. So what was dizzy like as i person was he cool and relaxed did he have the rock star persona to him and would you rate it as one of the coolest things youve done. Thanks again for doing this 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 28, 2006, 04:47:31 PM
reserved for part IV
hi there thanks for this interview pretty cool when will you be postin part 4. So what was dizzy like as i person was he cool and relaxed did he have the rock star persona to him and would you rate it as one of the coolest things youve done. Thanks again for doing this?

part IV posted above.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: DunkinDave on January 28, 2006, 05:13:42 PM
Quote
Why has Axl's voice changed so much between the Use Your Illusion tours and the 2001/2002 tours?

I don't think he has personally.? I think he still sounds like Axl still.? I think that its better... stronger... he's not having to compete with amps that are thousand [?..] so... that makes it easier, heh.

So he's basically saying Axl's reserving his voice because he doesn't have to scream, as opposed to the past when he did.

Interesting.

Thanks again Madagascar88!

 :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: PJ on January 28, 2006, 05:19:54 PM
the shaq thing was hilarious.. I cant imaging doin the  worm!  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 28, 2006, 05:23:53 PM
Well, i'll apoloze for my earlier disparagement of the interview, as i think you've more than given enough proof of its validity. I really like the part where he trashes the old hair band duded and steven (and given whats happened with AA, it almost seems prophetic). It is a little disheartening that it seems he doesnt know much about whats going on with the record at the present time-but i guess it's not surprising either. we're all waiting on mr. rose now. thanks again. : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 28, 2006, 05:39:40 PM
I know I said I wasn't gonna post in this thread anymore, but there is obvious contradictions in this new part of the interview. But thats all I'm gonna say. I'll let you guys figure it out for yourselves, or you can just keep raising this guy even higher on a pedestal.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: avesia on January 28, 2006, 05:49:26 PM
I know I said I wasn't gonna post in this thread anymore, but there is obvious contradictions in this new part of the interview. But thats all I'm gonna say. I'll let you guys figure it out for yourselves, or you can just keep raising this guy even higher on a pedestal.
I don't see any contradictions :nervous:...I think everithing is obvious: poor Dizzy doesn't know shit about his own band, and what he does know, he is not allowed to tell : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 28, 2006, 08:14:23 PM
So what was the so called big news in part IV of the interview?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Gizmo on January 28, 2006, 09:35:08 PM
yo

Cant you post the whole thing as one interview as i cant be a.ssed to go play cacth up!!

Regards

A lazy bugger!!!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 28, 2006, 09:36:59 PM
yo

Cant you post the whole thing as one interview as i cant be a.ssed to go play cacth up!!

Regards

A lazy bugger!!!!

He cant. It wont all fit into one responce. Just go and read it..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Gizmo on January 28, 2006, 09:38:14 PM
k what page numbers please


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Jonathan on January 28, 2006, 09:39:00 PM
k what page numbers please

1, 5, 20, 24


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 28, 2006, 09:52:40 PM
To make it easier.




Part I (part II is on page 5, part III is on page 20, part IV is on page 24)

So yea... possibly the best weekend of my life. Dizzy Reed came to Cornell this past weekend for two nights in order to pledge my fraternity as an honorary brother. He was awesome- took everything really well... hell the guy jammed with a freshman guitar player and ended up doing almost an entire show playing many G'n'R hits. When he wasn't playing- the Dizz-man was just having a good time. Along with spending time to meet fans & college chicks alike, Dizzy made time to sign autographs, appear in countless photographs and interact with music fanatics that treated him like the second-coming of Christ. Dizwald also went to the bars both nights with the guys of the frat and made toasts that made the weekend truly memorable because of how much fun both he and the brothers of the house had. But anyway, admist the chaos, I managed to speak to Dizzy during car rides, lunchbreaks and a 30-minute Q&A. Here are some of his responses.

What is the status on Chinese Democracy?

"I know what you guys know. I'm pretty excited about the fact that it might come out this year. But that's all I know."

(but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway)

What is up with Slash giving the release date on CD as March 2006?

"Slash did? Well... he didn't get that information from me. But umm... hey that's exciting."

What are your views/opinions on Velvet Revolver?

"I think that their t-shirts are cool."

What are your thoughts on the Da Vinci Code soundtrack rumor that there will be a G'n'R track on it?

"I don't know anything about it."

Is there a finalized tracklist? I heard that there will be 32 songs of which 26 are complete...?

"Well... I actually thought that there are more... but if Axl says there are 32 then I guess. But what's already in the bank is unbelievable material. There's a lot. There's at least three dozen. There's a shitload of stuff. We've actually been doing stuff... we haven't been sittin' around. There really is a lot of stuff."

What would you say is the general sound of the album?

"Sound. You know... the thing about it is that there are so many different areas and the other thing is that through time guys have come and gone that as different members of the band- everyone brought 2 or 3 songs such that there are multiple musical genres and situtations. Umm.. it's kind of a smorgasbord. Everyone works on it and when Axl sings on it- it's magical. So... there's gonna be a little something for everybody on it. It mixes rock with all that modern... rock elements... to do this."

Do you think the record will appeal to fans? The sound that is.

"You can't please everybody. The quality of the songs goes a long ways. If you can play the song on the piano or just on a lone guitar and it still sounds great- then the song stands out on its own. All the songs are like that so I think the songs will carry the record. You know what? There are probably already a million people who have their minds made up that there gonna hate the album. You know- fuck those people. They probably will buy it... who knows? And I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised too. Or you know... maybe noone will buy it- you know? You can't predict the future. It's the tunnel theory of ever-changing things- you never know."

What do you think is the reason for the delay in the album release?

"You know... there is no primary reason... its really a variety of reasons. Umm.. there's just absolutely no one thing. I'm certainly not gonna go say that its all because Axl's a perfectionist or you know... things are just always coming and going... and the other thing is I guess there's never really been a deadline or any pressure. Axl and the rest of us will put the best thing out."

Obviously, Geffen is getting a little impatient... they did release the Greatest Hits album in order to entice you guys to release the album...

"Well... at this point I don't even know... I don't really deal on the business end of things. They'll just have to wait like everybody else."

How long have you actually known Axl Rose?

"Umm... I'm trying to remember... I'd say 20 years... we met in Hollywood when I first moved there and... he just liked the way I played the piano. At the time, in the 80s, most of the keyboard players that were playing at the time were kind of classically-trained and you know... they were good but they would not have fitted in with Guns N' Roses songs. And I think he realized that I would be able to play and add something that would raise the songs."

Apparently... Axl dedicated 'Nightrain' to 'Dizzy and his band' way back in 1986.. was that you?

"Yea... I think they just signed a deal with Live like a suicide and were touring and wanted to add a keyboard player too. And my band- we were doing a little tour then around the southwest and I broke my hand in a car accident... so around that time... because nightrain was my favorite G'n'R song at the time... Axl dedicated the song to me at


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 28, 2006, 09:53:19 PM
Part II (Part III is on page 20, part IV is on page 24)

What are your current relations to the other Gunners?

"Uhh... I've only seen Matt recently [because Matt Sorum is apparently the only Gunner who goes out] and Steven when he played with the Starfuckers one night at the Cat Club where I play on Thursdays.  Other than that, I haven't talked to anyone else... well, I talked to Izzy a couple years ago- he was at a recording studio playing some of his new stuff."

Building on this, from talking to him at lunch & whatnot... Dizzy had a LOT to say about the former Gunners.  Keep in mind these are paraphrases...

On Izzy:  'You have to understand that Izzy is one of those people that does whatever he wants.  You know... when I joined the band, he sometimes... just didn't show up.  Examples include during the recording of the music video for "Don't Cry" and the music video for "You Could Be Mine" at the end in the scene where the band exits the studio and sees Arnold.  [we watch the 'You Could be Mine' music video and Dizzy comments... "hey... where's Izzy? o wait... yea, he wasn't there"] Obviously part of the reason that Izzy left might have been the fact that he and Axl didn't get along towards the end... but thats just part of it.  I mean... about the Ju Ju Hounds... I have a friend who was the guitarist for that band back in the early 90s and he was always complaining about how Izzy would just not show up for shows.  [I comment that Izzy is turning into Axl... which puts a frown on Dizzy's face]  And... just as a musician... Izzy used to be a great songwriter- his contribution to Guns N' Roses first album are phenomenal.  But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire... I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio... and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" - it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out.  [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean... this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he's writing about getting his tooth pulled... I mean come on... can you imagine Axl singing that live?' [I next ask him about rumors that Izzy had been paying visits to Axl's Malibu mansion over the last few years and had been rejected at the door several times] Yea... he's always doing that- he'd done it a few times actually. [I ask him if its because Izzy wants back in G'n'R] No... I mean I'm not sure... the guy sort of just does his own thing... he did join us back during the Use Your Illusion tour briefly... Gilby had hurt himself and so he stepped in for a couple of dates... I mean, the guy's really weird is the best way to describe it... in '91, we were playing some shows in England... like one day we were having the times of our lives playing a sold-out Wembley and the next day... I talk to Izzy and he's like: "I'm leaving the band" and I'm like "what!?" and he's like: "Dizzy... I'm leaving the band." I personally don't understand him to any extent.

On Steven: 'Wow... what to say about this guy... I just recently played with Steven with the Starfuckers... actually it was both him and C.C. Deville of Poison.  It was like this really hyped up concert because here's two big names playing with us... and let me tell you... at the concert... you could hear a pin drop.  C.C. DeVille was terrible.. the guy can't play for the life of him... and Steven... he can't even hold a beat anymore let alone play drums.  We'd look bad and the guy was literally smoking crack while on stage during the songs.  It was possibly the worst concert of my life... I mean... there's only so many times that a guy can die from an overdose and come back alive...

On Jani Lane of Warrant: 'Let me tell you about Jani Lane... I just recently performed with this guy.. he was at the Raven's Heart benefit show [I think this is the concert he mentioned] And he literally had to be carried on stage because he was so drugged up... he couldn't sing.. like at all... it was like a comic act.. because he was just on stage making a fool of himself.. everyone at the show was laughing and you know... I felt bad for him [when asked about the VH1 show that shows that he's sober] TV's TV man.. the guy's no different now.. that was just for a bit of publicity.  I mean he recently calls me on my cell completely fucked up and is like: "MEET ME AT _____ tomorrow!" and I'm like: "wait.. who is this?" and he's like: "what?" and I'm like: "who is this?" and he's like: "ITS JANI" and hangs up... and he actually expects me to talk to his management about playing with him.

On Matt Nelson of Nelson: 'Saw him recently at a concert. He came up to me and was like "hi... I'm Matt Nelson. Was wondering if you knew any keyboardists who might be up for playing with me and my band at ____ [I forget the show name]. And obviously the guy's pointing at asking me if I wanted to play so I talk to him for a while and its literally minutes before I realize that this guys Matt Nelson of the band Nelson 'cause I mean he has like short hair now... and then he starts talking about Axl... he says: "Dizzy... you know- me and Axl are very alike" and Im like... "Really? how...?" and he's like: "I dated Erin Everly right when he was going through their divorce" and I'm like "holy shit... 'cause I didn't even know that. and so of course I couldn't do that to Axl... to play with this guy"'

Who was better for Axl? Erin Everly or Stephanie Seymour?

"You know... this is a degree of privacy and that's his own personal business."

I hear that Axl's still having trouble getting over his breakup with Stephanie Seymour because he perceived her to be perfect for him... is that true?

"I haven't heard him talk about her in quite a while... but it could be true... it's his personal relationship"


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 28, 2006, 09:53:38 PM
Part III (Part IV on page 24)

What was the deal with Dave Navarro joining the band following Izzy's departure?

Umm... he was supposed to play with us [concerts]... and for rehearsals... he never showed up for rehearsals.  he agreed to... I don't know if he agreed to or not... but we set up rehearsals.. we had Madison Square Garden coming up and a bunch of other shows.  2 nights went by and he never showed up so... we had to get somebody else so we got Gilby.

On April 1, 2005 - on April Fool's Day, a small clip of the song 'IRS' was posted on the internet.  What was your response to the whole ordeal and what do you think happened?

I... I only know what I've heard.  I heard something about Mike Piazza... playing it on a radio station. [shrugs]  [I chime in and comment "Eddie Trunks Radio Station] yea... it was so bizarre... like I don't know how he would've got ahold of it. [I chime in adding that I thought Axl gave Mike the clip almost as a birthday gift] ... um.. that's possible. I don't know.  I mean Mike seemed really cool when I met... really nice- he signed a baseball for my son...

So how did Hookers N Blow come along?

Hookers N Blow... I play at this place called the Cat Club on Thursdays.  And I also do this thing with Happenin' Harry and the Half-tons [?] which are Sundays at the Cat Club and Wednesdays at this place called the ____.  And a couple of the guys that sit in on those sessions approached me about doing some shows on the East coast... umm.. this guy Matt Starr and Alex Grossi- they're both from Connecticut and so I'm I say... sure let's do it. Now when they were booking some shows they wanted to call it the "Dizzy Reed band" ... I'm like 'that's so gay' and so they ask "well... what do you wanna call it then" and I'm like "I dont know... Hookers N Blow" so... it just kind of went from there.  And its actually been very successful - very fun doing it.

What is your favorite song to cover with Hookers N Blow?

I like playing all the Guns stuff but do some really cool versions of like... "Time of the Season"... it's so much fun to play. We do some Motorhead... and uhh... god what else do we do... all the 70s stuff you know... its great cause thats what I like... Rolling Stones, Bowie, the Who.. we got some Beatles, 60s stuff too.  You know we throw in a couple Guns N' Roses songs otherwise a lot of the clubs wouldn't let us out alive.

[Sergey the pledge asks:] I heard you guys also do some Aerosmith?

Yes... we do some Aerosmith... uhh... Mama Kin, Dream On.. and uh... I think that's it.  I love the cover of Ziggy Stardust.

So what was your favorite Guns N' Roses show ever... whether it be with the new band or the old?

hmm.. I'm gonna have to go with the new lineup.  The last show that we did which was Madison Square Garden was definitely my favorite show although there's so many... I mean we're talking about hundreds of shows... you know there were some great moments.  Ronny Wood came up and played with us in... Tokyo.  He came and played at the Tokyo Dome.  And another time... Gilby had... and I wouldn't say its one of my favorite moments but... Gilby had broken his wristand we had some European dates coming up so we ended up asking Izzy to come fill in while Gilby's wrist healed.  Gilby flew out to meet us in London and we were playing Milton Keynes... its this big outdoor venue they have there... and Ronny Wood was there 'cause we had seen him in Ireland too.  It's funny cause you think of Izzy and Gilby like they're two prototypes of the rhythm guitar guy... they got the same haircut, the same vibe and everything...  they're both great players- they're all great players... while Gilby was out, we had him play whenever he could... and Ron Wood was playing and Izzy... so we had all three of those guys were on stage together at the same time playing 'Knockin' on Heavens Door' and I was like... "o wow"... I'm like in the Ron Wood club so... that was a fun moment.

What was it like to play the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in '92?

You know... it was a pretty special event... it felt like... you could feel the energy and vibe.. and just all the people were really... like you could really it from the crowd- very caring and just we need to do something about this horrible disease. and just the fact that all those people were able to come together and play the show was kind of microcosm of what was going on... in the world at the time.  It was pretty incredible.  We could only play two songs... so we played two songs and flew out.

All right... this guy almost spammed me with mail 'cause he wanted you to read it so much... here... it says... from "fuck your enemy"... he says... this is his letter to you...

"Dizzy. I'd really like it if you could tell Axl how much love the fans have for him and how much we await his return. We got really happy and excited at just seeing current pictures of him.. We have waited patiently in hope of Guns N' Roses to tour again and bring out Chinese Democracy. Axl Rose and GN'R you have a huge fan-base with much love and respect and you always will. All I'm asking is for you to be aware of this and maybe give us a little information about the status of the band/album. Thank you."

o ok... umm... is that guy [in "fuck your enemy"s avatar] pointing a gun at me? [I respond: "haha yea... this is a threat by the way"]

Dizzy sees something on the computer screen which is what I'm reading these questions off of... he says: "wait... what does that say?" and moves in real close... [I read it off "Ok... so this guy asks... If the Broncos beat the Steelers this weekend they go to the Super Bowl.  Well... I guess thats more of a statement than a question..."]  Dizzy laughs... "umm... thanks for reminding me"

What is like sharing the keyboards nowadays with Chris Pittman?

Uhh... you know.. he adds so much to the band.  He's a good guy to get along with.  I've never had a problem with him of any kind.  I'm a team player man... I'm always up for whats best for the whole raw picture.  on tour.. you know... he just accents what we do so... I'm all for it.

You and Chris wrote the song Silkworms, is that correct?

Umm... it was passed back and forth on our computers.  [I chime in "computers?"] yea.. you know, we do a lot of work now on computers.  We pass it back and forth and I had a couple riffs so... yea.

Is that song [Silkworms] expected to be on the album?

No.  It kind of went away.  I mean we actually played it a few times live... but... I'm sure it'll up at some point.

What do you miss most from the old Guns N' Roses?

I miss being in my 20s... [I wait like I'm expecting a real answer] [Dizzy smiles:] ... that's what I miss most...

What is your opinion about the new Guns N' Roses?

"I think in a lot of ways its a better band than the old band. the best band... the lineup that we had in 2002 is the best band that I ever played with. [I chime in: "in terms of technical skill?"] skill.. and yea... the whole performance- everything."

Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody.  Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so.  I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

Is there a plan for G'n'R to tour again this year?  I hear rumors you guys might be appearing at Rock in Rio this year... you know... another random rumor.

If the record comes out... I hope we tour.

What is the story behind the 2002 tour abruptly stopping- you know after the Madison Square Garden shows?

Sorry- I can't talk about that.

Are you pursuing a film career?  Any films in the works? Any in the future?

umm.. I've been delving into a little acting, yes. i hope i do some cool things in the future- that'd be great... so... look for me in movies- yes.

What was the deal with Buckethead departing in March 2004?  You know... right before Rock in Rio Lisbon.
[Dizzy starts to answer... I interject:] And why does he wear a bucket on his head?

That question I can't answer but the other I can just say its issues, issues, issues... that's it.

I guess this is more of a private question but is Axl in good emotional health to able to tour again?

Yes. Of course he is. Yes.  [5 sec delay while I look for the next question on fan board]  Why wouldn't he be?

[as I'm pulling up the next question... Dizzy interjects staring at the computer screen (we're on the mygnr questions thread I created a while back):] Guns N' Donuts! wow- I haven't seen that one.

Have you yourself ever considered leaving Guns N' Roses?

Umm... no.  Never.

What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]
[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.

Is the current band expected to do covers of the members former bands songs? You know... Replacements, Hookers N Blow, Nine Inch Nails...?

Hookers N Blow is a cover band so that'd be ultimately redundant.. [everyone the room laughs]
Umm.. you know.. I don't think those songs have any place in Guns N' Roses... it'd be weird so... No.




Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 28, 2006, 09:54:39 PM
There are rumors that Shaq- Shaquille O'Neal rapped on the album at Axl's request.

I don't know if anything's happened since... but I jammed with Shaq.  At one point I was down at this rehearsal... this rehearsal place in Santa Monica writing songs with Paul [Tobias].  And my friend Syd was playing drums- just drumming for us.  We were basically just writing and recording stuff- writing and recording constantly, just basically waiting for everyone else to basically show up. And there are these satellite recording studios around that soundstage and they do a lot of commercials and back when Shaq was still with the Orlando Magic- he was doing a Taco Bell commercial next door so he heard that we were next door so he wanted to come say hi... but there like the only one there is Dizzy so he says 'well, I'll say hi to Dizzy' so the door opens and this gigantic man comes in and I'm like 'who the hell's that?' and he's like 'hey dizzy!' and he's getting closer and closer and bigger and bigger- I realize its fuckin' Shaquille O'Neal. Holy shit.  So.. we talked for a little bit and then he asked me to play my keyboard and I said 'sure' and he sat down and disintegrated my stool... smashed it into little pieces [everyone laughs]... granted shaking Shaq's hand is like shaking a frying pan [I ask what that means] ... well.. I mean its so big [Dizzy shows how difficult it would be to shake a frying pan] Anyway, so he breaks my stool into little pieces and he looks at me and goes 'man, I broke Guns N' Roses' stool.' And I say 'yea, we'll send you a bill for that later' and he doesn't say anything and so I'm like "just kidding..." And so we got him another stool and he sits down and starts playing this... polysynth [?] sound... this riff on my keyboards... and it was really cool.  And so... I look over at the drummer and motion for him to.. you know... get a hiphop beat going... and Syd goes into this groove... and Shaq started vibin' on it and Paul started playing guitar... and Shaq looks over at me... and like this magic thing happened- he says 'take over' and so I watch what he's playing and I sat down and started playing it. And he got this groove- this vibe going and he and his buddies grabbed the mic and started doing this rap.  And our engineer Tommy was rolling tape the entire time... so... and I mean it was really cool... I mean the time he was just joking around and they started dancing and they danced their way out of the studio and we kept playing the beat 'cause it was cool and they came back in, sort of like an encore, and did some more stuff. like Shaq started doing the worm- I mean if you've ever seen a 7 foot... 300 pound guy do the worm... its the most amazing thing.  And they bailed.  It was the most amazing thing. And I mean I don't know if anything's happened since then but that's probably where that story comes from.

Ok, speaking of guest musicians, there are also rumors that Brian May, lead guitarist of Queen, was asked to play some guitar on some of the songs for Chinese Democracy and was afterwards also given an invitation by Axl Rose to join the band as lead guitarist?

I'm not sure about the latter part but yes, Brian did come by and play a couple songs.

There was a cover a while back... I mean, this question can't really describe it very well but... [Dizzy chimes in: "the bicycle?"] ... yea... the bicycle and its in China... is that...?

at one point, that was going to be the cover of the record- I'm not sure if it's now.  This one guy... he was my keyboard tech at the time... Michael... and I mean he was in China at the time and he saw that and took a picture and showed it to Axl.

Why has Axl's voice changed so much between the Use Your Illusion tours and the 2001/2002 tours?

I don't think he has personally.  I think he still sounds like Axl still.  I think that its better... stronger... he's not having to compete with amps that are thousand [?..] so... that makes it easier, heh.

Does Axl treat you- you being yourself and the rest of the band, as bandmates or employees?

you know- Axl is very much into having a band. and he's one of the fairest, coolest, nicest guys that I've ever met... and that's just a fact.  And I mean he treats us as band members but at the same time with any situation like that... there's always one person that's more important and you know is in charge and you have to know whose in charge. In every band, in every successful band, has a leader... he's the leader.

Going back to that then, is the album more of a collaborative effort or is it the Axl Rose show?

No, it's collaborative, yes. [Dizzy says this with conviction- responding immediately]

[something on the screen, one of the avatar's on the mygnrforum catches Dizzy's eye again- he stares at it a second and says: "what is that?" ... its an avatar that depicts the members of the new-GnR... he looks through it... "well... there's Tommy, Brain, Richard, me..." - I ask him "well... this is the band so obviously one of these guys is Chris Pittman." Dizzy answers: "but its not. and there's no Robin unless thats Robin with a mustache."  I ask him "is that one of the pictures you took when you were doing some modeling?" Dizzy answers "yea."

In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]

Would you be willing to talk about the tracklisting on the album?  Not in terms of the actual material but your opinion of the individual songs?

yea... but the thing is that I haven't heard of it in so long that... I don't know what changes its going through- what's happening.  I'm not even sure what they're called [Dizzy laughs]



Dizzy at this point asks for a piss break which I took as sign he didn't want any more questions.  Respecting the fact that I had been basically drilling him for almost an hour now- I call off the interview and we go out to the bars.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: RnT on January 28, 2006, 10:01:58 PM
OMFG
don?t say that that AWFUL bicycle with GUNS N ROSES writen in PAINTBRUSH SPRAY is the cover of the album... AXL, PLEASE, NO DUDE


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 28, 2006, 10:04:43 PM
OMFG
don?t say that that AWFUL bicycle with GUNS N ROSES writen in PAINTBRUSH SPRAY is the cover of the album... AXL, PLEASE, NO DUDE

The one we saw was FAKE. We never got to see the real cover


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: -Jack- on January 28, 2006, 11:51:53 PM
Hey guys. I posted the whole interview over at a livejournal. I cleaned it up a bit too.. gave it a more professional feel..

Overall tried to make it an easier read.

http://jacktopia.livejournal.com/2012.html?mode=reply


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highend88 on January 29, 2006, 06:20:11 AM
In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]


So wait a minute. We heard rumours before that "the general" will be on CD. How about "we were lying" ?? This is something new that we have not heard before. Means one more new songtitle guys!!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 29, 2006, 06:27:36 AM
On Izzy:? But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire... I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio... and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" - it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out.? [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean... this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he's writing about getting his tooth pulled... I mean come on...


I'd prefer a song about visiting the dentist than one about taxes (IRS), or about silkworms... : ok:

About Izzy having lost the fire, that's something Mr. Dizzy Reed will never have to personally worry about.
You can't lose something you never had...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 29, 2006, 07:17:59 AM
In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]


So wait a minute. We heard rumours before that "the general" will be on CD. How about "we were lying" ?? This is something new that we have not heard before. Means one more new songtitle guys!!

I can probably verify that second song title if I watched the footage enough times... give me a sec.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jazjme on January 29, 2006, 10:31:53 AM
Mad88, thats for going through all the trouble and BS, you had to deal with while posting this stuff. the gnr community can be a cruel and often times downright  mean and unappreciatative. But for myself I just wanna say thanks for posting your interview. It was a good read, (myself) wasnt lookin for any earth shatttering news, have met the diswald myself and hes a great person, an is open to talk with fans .

           (one of my favorite moments, was while he was performing and richard and he and the band had a botle of jeigermiester and he poured me a shot from the stage :) ), also was a night that richard fortus came on to help him out with a few tunes on stage at the LIONS DEN here in NYC).

SO just want to say thanks , and rock the fuck on!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: JAC185 on January 29, 2006, 12:05:35 PM
In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]


So wait a minute. We heard rumours before that "the general" will be on CD. How about "we were lying" ?? This is something new that we have not heard before. Means one more new songtitle guys!!

I can probably verify that second song title if I watched the footage enough times... give me a sec.

Thanks for typing the whole thing up man, and thanks for bothering to ask what questions people wanted asked and all that, i hope everyone realises you didn't HAVE to do that.

Just wondering if you could confirm that song title?

Sounds an interesting title, all the others that have been mentioned seem to generally be one or two word titles, i know this is only three words but the rest seem to be names e.g The Blues, General, Madagascar instead of phrases like this


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: mikegiuliana on January 29, 2006, 12:25:35 PM
Like I said at the 'other' forum, you asked some really great questions. The questions are the best part of the interview. His answers leave way too much to the imagination. Someone needs to ask Dizzy point blank if he is still a member of Guns N Roses, because with these new answers that give new meaning to the word vague, I'm starting to wonder if Axl didn't fire him, and he just hasn't found out yet.

those are great questions.. I haven't even looked at this thread until now.. Just figured another dizzy reed blah blah nowhere know nothin ginterview.. Pretty much the same old answers not knowing ....

CD is more like a cause then an album.. So in the closet people trying to get it to happen, no one really knowing anything except axl..

There's way to much to read into and guess very general answers..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: mikegiuliana on January 29, 2006, 12:28:18 PM
You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking? :P

I think we should lock both Madagascar88 and Madison from MyGNR in a room.

I can imagine the conversation:

Madagascar88: So, what did Axl tell you?
Madison: In 2002 he told me the title of the first Chinese Democracy single
Madagascar88: Cool, Dizzy told me something big that's going to happen with the band in 2006
Madison: Awesome, what's that?
Madagascar88: You go first
Madison: No really, I insist
Madagascar88: Only after you tell me the name of the single
Madison: .....
Madagascar88: .....

!!!!!!!!HEADS EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!


the name of the single :hihi: :rofl: That one cracked me up.. I know tons of people asked after she said axl told her the single's title but would neevr reveal it...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: PJ on January 29, 2006, 12:31:43 PM
On Izzy:? But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire... I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio... and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" - it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out.? [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean... this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he's writing about getting his tooth pulled... I mean come on...


I'd prefer a song about visiting the dentist than one about taxes (IRS), or about silkworms... : ok:

About Izzy having lost the fire, that's something Mr. Dizzy Reed will never have to personally worry about.
You can't lose something you never had...

so if you prefer that songs.. shut up and dont post here.. go to the Ex Gunners part of the forum and talk about those songs... : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 29, 2006, 01:02:13 PM
On Izzy:? But, its almost like the guy has lost the fire... I mean I saw the guy a couple years back in the studio... and he was showing me a song he had just written called "Toothpuller" - it was literally about him visiting the dentist and getting a tooth pulled out.? [Dizzy then sings some of the lyrics] I mean... this is a guy who wrote some badass songs and now he's writing about getting his tooth pulled... I mean come on...


I'd prefer a song about visiting the dentist than one about taxes (IRS), or about silkworms... : ok:

About Izzy having lost the fire, that's something Mr. Dizzy Reed will never have to personally worry about.
You can't lose something you never had...

so if you prefer that songs.. shut up and dont post here.. go to the Ex Gunners part of the forum and talk about those songs... : ok:

Hey Mr. wanna-be mod,
Just because I don't like Silkworms, IRS or Dizzy Reed doesn't mean I'm not a GN'R fan.


I don't like Riad and the beduins either, you know...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Origen on January 29, 2006, 01:24:08 PM
You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking? :P

I think we should lock both Madagascar88 and Madison from MyGNR in a room.

I can imagine the conversation:

Madagascar88: So, what did Axl tell you?
Madison: In 2002 he told me the title of the first Chinese Democracy single
Madagascar88: Cool, Dizzy told me something big that's going to happen with the band in 2006
Madison: Awesome, what's that?
Madagascar88: You go first
Madison: No really, I insist
Madagascar88: Only after you tell me the name of the single
Madison: .....
Madagascar88: .....

!!!!!!!!HEADS EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!


the name of the single :hihi: :rofl: That one cracked me up.. I know tons of people asked after she said axl told her the single's title but would neevr reveal it...

And does miss Madison not think think that in 4 years Axl just might of changed his mind.


Catcher in the Rye will (was) ment to be the first single because I remember in 2002 it was reported that the band had filmed that video for it in China


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 29, 2006, 02:15:30 PM
In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]


So wait a minute. We heard rumours before that "the general" will be on CD. How about "we were lying" ?? This is something new that we have not heard before. Means one more new songtitle guys!!

I can probably verify that second song title if I watched the footage enough times... give me a sec.

Thanks for typing the whole thing up man, and thanks for bothering to ask what questions people wanted asked and all that, i hope everyone realises you didn't HAVE to do that.

Just wondering if you could confirm that song title?

Sounds an interesting title, all the others that have been mentioned seem to generally be one or two word titles, i know this is only three words but the rest seem to be names e.g The Blues, General, Madagascar instead of phrases like this

i'd have to get it on my computer or something before I can do that well unfortunately... right now I'm still rewatching it on my non-digital camcorder.

it's definitely "we were ____" ... the last word sounds like "lying" or "line" or something.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highend88 on January 29, 2006, 02:30:19 PM
In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]


So wait a minute. We heard rumours before that "the general" will be on CD. How about "we were lying" ?? This is something new that we have not heard before. Means one more new songtitle guys!!

I can probably verify that second song title if I watched the footage enough times... give me a sec.

Thanks for typing the whole thing up man, and thanks for bothering to ask what questions people wanted asked and all that, i hope everyone realises you didn't HAVE to do that.

Just wondering if you could confirm that song title?

Sounds an interesting title, all the others that have been mentioned seem to generally be one or two word titles, i know this is only three words but the rest seem to be names e.g The Blues, General, Madagascar instead of phrases like this

i'd have to get it on my computer or something before I can do that well unfortunately... right now I'm still rewatching it on my non-digital camcorder.

it's definitely "we were ____" ... the last word sounds like "lying" or "line" or something.

Hi Maddy88... What's your view on CD. Is it going to come out or are we going to see it this year? You can email me instead of posting here. I know there's lot of dickheads who already criticise you for posting the interview thread. Thanks


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on January 29, 2006, 02:50:47 PM
Maddy88, thank you for the information.  Over the past few years, there has been so much mis-information thrown around, some members here doubt anything new is true. 

For whatever reason, the "big news" from Part IV had to be left out I assume.  I'm sure you and/or Dizzy had your reasons.  Highend88 asks a good question.  Do you think CD's arriving this year?

 :beer:   


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: mikegiuliana on January 29, 2006, 02:52:26 PM
You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking? :P

I think we should lock both Madagascar88 and Madison from MyGNR in a room.

I can imagine the conversation:

Madagascar88: So, what did Axl tell you?
Madison: In 2002 he told me the title of the first Chinese Democracy single
Madagascar88: Cool, Dizzy told me something big that's going to happen with the band in 2006
Madison: Awesome, what's that?
Madagascar88: You go first
Madison: No really, I insist
Madagascar88: Only after you tell me the name of the single
Madison: .....
Madagascar88: .....

!!!!!!!!HEADS EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!


the name of the single :hihi: :rofl: That one cracked me up.. I know tons of people asked after she said axl told her the single's title but would neevr reveal it...

And does miss Madison not think think that in 4 years Axl just might of changed his mind.


Catcher in the Rye will (was) ment to be the first single because I remember in 2002 it was reported that the band had filmed that video for it in China

of course that would be the logical thing, or maybe not .. ?Why switch the single, if it was the first choice then why not now too? They may have never done an ounce of new material since then only brushed up the old, like re doing parts...

Bottom line is if you knew something wether it came out as a yes or a no it would have been fun to just know what he said..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on January 29, 2006, 06:11:30 PM
You know you have to elaborate on (but guys, don't give up because from talking to him over the weekend- there's one thing coming up that gives me reason to believe that the staging for the release is underway), otherwise it's just attention seeking? :P

I think we should lock both Madagascar88 and Madison from MyGNR in a room.

I can imagine the conversation:

Madagascar88: So, what did Axl tell you?
Madison: In 2002 he told me the title of the first Chinese Democracy single
Madagascar88: Cool, Dizzy told me something big that's going to happen with the band in 2006
Madison: Awesome, what's that?
Madagascar88: You go first
Madison: No really, I insist
Madagascar88: Only after you tell me the name of the single
Madison: .....
Madagascar88: .....

!!!!!!!!HEADS EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!


the name of the single :hihi: :rofl: That one cracked me up.. I know tons of people asked after she said axl told her the single's title but would neevr reveal it...

And does miss Madison not think think that in 4 years Axl just might of changed his mind.


Catcher in the Rye will (was) ment to be the first single because I remember in 2002 it was reported that the band had filmed that video for it in China

CITR was said to be the 3rd single off of CD not the first. And the Video thing was BS


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: axlsalinger on January 29, 2006, 06:28:32 PM
I believe she said at one point that it was a one-word title that ended with the letter "a".

"Insomnia" is my guess. Only Uncle Axl knows for sure!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jimmythegent on January 29, 2006, 07:09:06 PM
These 'interviews' further enhance my belief that the 'band members' have little to no clue as to what form/shape the songs/album will take. I would imagine that they jammed a whole lot of riffs/segments of songs  some time ago, with some loose direction given, and that Axl has been piecing this thing together bit by bit since with added bits and pieces along the way

The 'band' will basically have to learn the arrangments prior to doing any shows.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: mikegiuliana on January 29, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
These 'interviews' further enhance my belief that the 'band members' have little to no clue as to what form/shape the songs/album will take. I would imagine that they jammed a whole lot of riffs/segments of songs? some time ago, with some loose direction given, and that Axl has been piecing this thing together bit by bit since with added bits and pieces along the way

The 'band' will basically have to learn the arrangments prior to doing any shows.

sounds pretty much like how it is.. Either they know and act like they don't or axl really runs eevrything and keeps them out of the loop..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on January 29, 2006, 09:55:37 PM
He posted something on mygnr...

He admited the interview is fake.

So is about 99.4% of every rumor , fan encounter , interview in our lil GNR world.? I'm starting to think you guys are all fake too.? :nervous:? This is not real , I've been duped.

It's like , when a friend tlls me something now , no matter how mundane it is , I almost feel like yelling at him ,"oh yeah?! Name your sources you one post wonder!"

From now on when someone lies to me or tricks me in real life I think I'll just say "when do you think chinese democracy will come out?"



I'm a ways back in this thread, but this is one of the FUNNIEST posts ever on this site. :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on January 30, 2006, 10:21:13 AM
In terms of the tracklisting on Chinese Democracy, what is your favorite track on the album?

umm... I don't know... last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]" ... I don't know [Dizzy shrugs]


So wait a minute. We heard rumours before that "the general" will be on CD. How about "we were lying" ?? This is something new that we have not heard before. Means one more new songtitle guys!!

I can probably verify that second song title if I watched the footage enough times... give me a sec.

Thanks for typing the whole thing up man, and thanks for bothering to ask what questions people wanted asked and all that, i hope everyone realises you didn't HAVE to do that.

Just wondering if you could confirm that song title?

Sounds an interesting title, all the others that have been mentioned seem to generally be one or two word titles, i know this is only three words but the rest seem to be names e.g The Blues, General, Madagascar instead of phrases like this

i'd have to get it on my computer or something before I can do that well unfortunately... right now I'm still rewatching it on my non-digital camcorder.

it's definitely "we were ____" ... the last word sounds like "lying" or "line" or something.

"We Were Blind" maybe?

I think the guess earlier in the thread about some sort of photoshoot is a good one. Just MHO.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on January 30, 2006, 11:13:03 AM
check this out- metal-sludge reformatted the story:

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1152&Itemid=1


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Evolution on January 30, 2006, 11:17:18 AM
So "The General" is real?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 30, 2006, 11:18:43 AM
check this out- metal-sludge reformatted my story:

http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1152&Itemid=1
Why does it not include your comment admitting that parts of the interview are fake?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 30, 2006, 11:28:52 AM
Get over it James... :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Sterlingdog on January 30, 2006, 11:42:39 AM
Why does it not include your comment admitting that parts of the interview are fake?

maybe because then they'd have to include the part where he says it wasn't fake, he was just worried Dizzy would get mad at him, especially considering the response he got at HTGTH? 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 30, 2006, 01:33:55 PM
So "The General" is real?

We've known 'the General' is real for quite sometime-Buckmaster (sp?) did the scoring for it and confirmed it almost 2 years ago.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 30, 2006, 02:13:26 PM
Beltrami did that one I believe. 8)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 30, 2006, 02:19:24 PM
Beltrami did that one I believe. 8)

True.

composer Beltrami scored four songs for Guns 'n' Roses. The songs are 'Seven', 'Leave Me Alone', 'Thyme' and 'General'

and oh yeah,

Marco is as confused as us all as to when the G'n'R songs will come out. "I really have no idea when or where these 4 G'n'R songs will be released" he says. "It seems the album keeps getting postponed".


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: NickNasty on January 30, 2006, 02:29:07 PM
Beltrami did that one I believe. 8)

Shit-i knew i got the name wrong! Thanks : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: highend88 on January 30, 2006, 02:33:08 PM
TO: Maddy88
It?s a pity that I did not get a chance to post questions on ?Dizzy Reed post questions Thread? before. I think HTGTH was down that day when I want to post.

I was gonna ask questions about the song called ?This I love?
Three years ago we had rumor that it is one of AXL favorite but at Korn party, AXL did not mention this title song to be one of this favorite. 
What happen to this? Will it be on CD?
I guess it?s too late now rite.
I hope it will get released.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 30, 2006, 02:35:25 PM
Why Dizzy Reed didn't mention in the interview the fact that he was preparing a tour with his Hookers ? ???


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 30, 2006, 04:30:46 PM
These 'interviews' further enhance my belief that the 'band members' have little to no clue as to what form/shape the songs/album will take. I would imagine that they jammed a whole lot of riffs/segments of songs  some time ago, with some loose direction given, and that Axl has been piecing this thing together bit by bit since with added bits and pieces along the way

The 'band' will basically have to learn the arrangments prior to doing any shows.

That's a cold hard truth thats become more and more relevant as the years go by without a new album, and all were left with is a bunch of bandmember interviews shooting in the dark and hoping for a bullseye as far as an approximate release goes.

I think when you say "Axl has been piecing this together" you need to make it clear that he has done so of his own accord and personal disclaimer for a realist timetable. The bandmembers have been doing solo schlock for over 3 years now and in that space of time it has been noted that their music contributions to the record had been completed..(until Dec. when Richard returned to record) for quite some time. Their services could have been more than available to Axl over the past several years to actual HELP HIM ARRANGE the songs, but he has instead given them the time off to do as they wish, and he will therefore add instrumentals new and old together, and then call them back in individually to rerecord waht he doesn't like, or get their opinions on each song he has "completed"

Now, while each member has been away from Gn'R, I wouldnt be surprised if one of the negotiations of them doing solo material is that they have to keep up to date with playing their decided parts on the old catelogue, as well as a clear mind and relaxed approach to the newer material they have now spent years recording bit by bit. It makes sense and cuts down on rehearsal time when Axl plans to drop the album and tour, if the bandmembers are up to par on old  and new catalogue material when they rehearse as a solid unit again for the first time since MSG '02 : ok:

So "The General" is real?

We've known 'the General' is real for quite sometime-Buckmaster (sp?) did the scoring for it and confirmed it almost 2 years ago.

I was always very intrigued about this song when I heard Beltrami would be scoring it, and now that Dizzy said Brain really shines on it, I simply cant wait! Ironically, I broke out some of my Primus records last weekend and was thinking about what an advesary Brain really was to Gn'R. Adler was great in his prime, I never really cared too much for Sorum, but Brain is an exceptional drummer.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on January 31, 2006, 08:36:22 AM
What I have a hard time with is when Dizzy says the process is very colaborative....but then answers other questions that directly contradict that assertion.

Maybe the writing process WAS collaborative, but it's obvious that the process of actually creating the album has not been.  I mean....Dizzy says, repeatedly, that he hasn't heard much of the material "in so long".  How can that be collaborative?

I'm just saying....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 31, 2006, 09:06:48 AM
It was collaborative in the recording of the instrumentals. But, it is clearly not a collaborative effort over the last few years. They have played no part in the tracklisting, mixing, vocal recordings, lyrics, artwork, etc. If they have it is very minor. It will be Axl's album and that is not necessarily a bad thing. He'll have no excuses as to what the final product sounds like. Personally, I want it like this because I want to see if he's really as good as I thought he was going to be after listening to Coma, Estranged, Locomotive, Civil War et al. The guy really was on the way up as an artist.....then poof.....up in a cloud of smoke.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 11:06:11 AM
Nay! the album(s) won't be just Axl's. otherwise he should call the project Axl Rose solo.
As I said earlier in this thread ( I quote myself below :P), this band is as collaborative as any other band. Just the leader is holding many other posts for the project than just a band leader concomitantly and taking time.
Tommy, Dizzy and Axl's words are of one accord in regarding this thing to be corroborative efforts.
I'd say it is wholly Axl's endeavor to produce this fucking band ie an advanced GNR.

My point is that this band is, in its own right, no less a genuine band than any other band ever existed. Apparently they get on well with each other personally, not to mention musically.. I'm positive that each member of the band contributes and dedicate to the band as much as any band animal does to their band....... save for Axl.

The thing is just that the leader is not like other band front men. He not only being a sole lyric writer has served concurrently as a producer, a manager, an A&Rman and many other things while other bands entrust these chores to professionals outside the band.
Well you long term fans may see it as an Axl project because your interests are only Axl. But to complete the project, this band has to be Guns n Roses. That is Chinese Democracy.

Axl Rose: " There's a lot of things that? we come up with new ideas that we're working on as we go, and it is a really, really slow process, because it's kind of left more to ourselves in trying to figure it our where? What I've seen in this industry is that, if a record company? I don't know. There seems to be a lot more support for getting things done with newer bands, and it's got a lot to do with contracts being, you know, they don't have to spend as much money on the band, and they're trying to get it out there, and the next thing you know, they've sold a couple of albums and then they don't care about that band anymore and they move on and that band falls apart. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of support for bands that have been around. That's my experience. So in putting this thing together, in a lot of ways, I've had to do way more jobs in it than I'm supposed to ? I've had to be manager, A&R man, producer, sole lyric writer, and a lot of [other] things, where GUNS N' ROSES, to me, what I worked really hard at was making it a collaborative effort, and it was a lot of people involved. This is a collaborative effort with the players, but the players aren't exactly sure what it should be to try to win over the world GUNS N' ROSES style. So that's kind of my responsibility. It took a long time, but now it's working, and I think we'll have the right record, and when we do drop the record, the plan is to drop the record, have a bunch of extra tracks, about a year or so down the road drop another record and drop a third record. This is a three-stage thing and we'll be touring for a real long time." - from  101 WRIF radio interview, Nov. 21 2002
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=581



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 31, 2006, 11:18:40 AM
That just proves my point! Axl's running the show-no questions asked. :rofl:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 31, 2006, 11:25:40 AM
no1 is saying its not a collabortative effort. It was. But for the past few years now Axl has been in full control running the show. Theres nothing wrong with that as long as the band had input in the music. And they say they did.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 11:31:25 AM
And the manager of the beatles run the show. So did Jimmy Page. That didn't make Zep less collaborative.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 31, 2006, 11:32:40 AM
They don't have any say in what songs are on the album or what songs Axl decides to sing over-the mixing process (huge! as parts could be deleted by Axl or not used), the tracklisting, etc. The mixing process and tracklisting are probably the most creative part of making an album.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 31, 2006, 11:33:10 AM
in terms of music it was collaborative. Everything else its all Axl...its just a fact. That doesnt mean they are less of a band becuase of that or anything. It just means Axl runs the ship hands down. Its no different then he was with the old band


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 11:40:13 AM
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They don't have any say in what songs are on the album or what songs Axl decides to sing over-the mixing process

Any? Absolutely nothing? Are we really sure about that?
Why the hell did Brain have some songs last year?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jarmo on January 31, 2006, 11:40:46 AM
They don't have any say in what songs are on the album or what songs Axl decides to sing over-the mixing process (huge! as parts could be deleted by Axl or not used), the tracklisting, etc.

If that's the case, it's not something new.

"My World" appeared on an album in 1991. I wonder who wanted it on the album.....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: younggunner on January 31, 2006, 11:42:08 AM
i wouldnt go as far as Madagas in saying that they dont have any input on what makes thr album, songs structure, tracklisting and even album art...but in terms of leading and taking action its all Axl


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 31, 2006, 11:43:12 AM
lets not bring this arguement up again :nervous: there is no good in it :peace:

Pilferk, Madagas where were you guys a week or 2 ago when i needed ya :rofl:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 11:46:02 AM
They don't have any say in what songs are on the album or what songs Axl decides to sing over-the mixing process (huge! as parts could be deleted by Axl or not used), the tracklisting, etc.

If that's the case, it's something new.

"My World" appeared on an album in 1991. I wonder who wanted it on the album.....




/jarmo
Duff :-X .


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 31, 2006, 12:28:22 PM
Tank, read their interviews-they have nothing to do with the mixing and don't have any idea in some cases about what Axl is working on. Read Dizzy's interviews and anything from Tommy. You can't just take selected lines from the interviews and assume that this is a total collaborative effort-it is only to a small extent-go back and read them all again. There are plenty of hints that they have no idea what Axl is working on and in some cases, no idea what the final tracklisting of the album will be. Dizzy is unsure of song titles as recently as his latest statements. Also, if you are referring to Brain and "The General". Beltrami worked on it in 2002! This wasn't a song from last year.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on January 31, 2006, 12:30:24 PM
lets not bring this arguement up again :nervous: there is no good in it :peace:

Pilferk, Madagas where were you guys a week or 2 ago when i needed ya :rofl:

Let me be very clear about a couple of things: I'm not putting down the way the band is/was/has worked through the album creation process....largely because doing so without hearing the album would be a bit pointless. ?I'm also not saying it was an entirely uncollaborative effort. And I'm not saying Dizzy is misleading anyone or being hypocritical, either. ?My one and only point in my comment is Dizzy says one thing, a very specific thing (and it's funny because it sounds almost verbatim like what the rest of the band has said...so they either believe it or it's "the party line" they've been asked to toe), but then, in other responses, gives a completely different impression.

I'm just trying to make sense of the two vastly different things he's saying, largely because I think he IS being sincere and honest in his responses: A) That the music creation was very collaborative and then B) to be completely clueless about how stuff sounds currently and a variety of other things. ?I know mix and arrangement can have huge impact on material. But to me, if they had little to no input on that subject then, really, I'd say the music creation process was not as collaborative as he's saying it was...simply because those factors DO have such an impact. ?I'm sure he believes it was, as do many of the other bandmembers. ?And maybe it WAS. ?But his other answers paint a very muddy picture.

Did they sit down and write the songs together? ?Probably, making it a collaborative effort to that point. ?But after that point, and there's a LOT of "stuff" after that point, it seems not so much.

I suppose, at the end of the day, it doesn't REALLY matter much....as long as the material they release is good.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on January 31, 2006, 12:44:32 PM
Exactly.  :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on January 31, 2006, 12:46:14 PM
pilferk I agree with you 100%


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jmapelian on January 31, 2006, 12:48:23 PM
damnit...I spent all that time reading this "interview" and didn't get a damn thing out of it.

this band has got the art of speaking with out saying anything down to a science

the best part of this interview was the story about Shaq, which must have happened years ago because it's been forevcer since he was with the Magic


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 31, 2006, 01:12:38 PM
i wouldnt go as far as Madagas in saying that they dont have any input on what makes thr album, songs structure, tracklisting and even album art...but in terms of leading and taking action its all Axl

Definately hit the nail right on the head.

Ppbebe, I really know you'd love to imagine all 6 bandmembers huddled around Axl in the studio all day long, going through every step of the creative process together, but through many bandmember interviews, it appears that analogy just isn't correct. Dont get me wrong, musically, the album surely was a collaborative effort and they probably tossed ideas back and forth, but make no mistake: Richard, Dizzy, etc will have no power when it comes to the album art, or even what tracklist will be selected. That side of the buisness, is entirely in Axl's hands, always has been...Remember the article where he said a huge delay was him taking over more jobs than he had too before?

Im sure if the songs on Chinese Democracy are epic, mindblowing pieces of music, Tommy and the other guys will get a huge pat on the back for their contributions, but it still wont change the fact, Axl appears to be composing the album by his lonesome and will only call for his comrades when it is complete.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 01:29:42 PM


Ppbebe, I really know you'd love to imagine all 6 bandmembers huddled around Axl in the studio all day long, going through every step of the creative process together,

What makes you think so? If you read my posts, you'd notice that I've been saying that Axl is doing a lot more than an ordinary band leader's role, which are taking time.

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if you are referring to Brain and "The General". Beltrami worked on it in 2002! This wasn't a song from last year.
No I'm not solely referring to the song. Besides it?s possible that some changes have been made on the song since 2002.
In the interview, Dizzy says
"last year Brain had this song called 'the General' that was really cool... and another song called "we were lying [not sure if thats the name he said]"


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 31, 2006, 01:36:06 PM
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What makes you think so? If you read my posts, you'd notice that I've been saying that Axl is doing a lot more than an ordinary band leader's role, which are taking time.

Nay! the album(s) won't be just Axl's. otherwise he should call the project Axl Rose solo.
As I said earlier in this thread ( I quote myself below :P), this band is as collaborative as any other band. Just the leader is holding many other posts for the project than just a band leader concomitantly and taking time.
Tommy, Dizzy and Axl's words are of one accord in regarding this thing to be corroborative efforts.
I'd say it is wholly Axl's endeavor to produce this fucking band ie an advanced GNR.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 31, 2006, 01:49:22 PM
i wouldnt go as far as Madagas in saying that they dont have any input on what makes thr album, songs structure, tracklisting and even album art...but in terms of leading and taking action its all Axl

Definately hit the nail right on the head.

Ppbebe, I really know you'd love to imagine all 6 bandmembers huddled around Axl in the studio all day long, going through every step of the creative process together, but through many bandmember interviews, it appears that analogy just isn't correct. Dont get me wrong, musically, the album surely was a collaborative effort and they probably tossed ideas back and forth, but make no mistake: Richard, Dizzy, etc will have no power when it comes to the album art, or even what tracklist will be selected. That side of the buisness, is entirely in Axl's hands, always has been...Remember the article where he said a huge delay was him taking over more jobs than he had too before?

Im sure if the songs on Chinese Democracy are epic, mindblowing pieces of music, Tommy and the other guys will get a huge pat on the back for their contributions, but it still wont change the fact, Axl appears to be composing the album by his lonesome and will only call for his comrades when it is complete.

so what?s exactely the definition of collaborative here?

i think it was the part of the band to write the music and now it`s axl`s part to actually make it sound like gnr (or queen..... :hihi:....whatever) or how he wants it to sound. there`s no doubt that he`s the captain of the ship called gnr, but that doesn?t make it a solo record though..... ?everyone`s involved and axl takes it to the right direction... that`s my guess. and i think that?s cool, because axl`s the man :hihi:

by the way i think it`s the same now as it was in the old gnr....... and don?t you think that was a collaborative effort either? and i don?t think slash and duff had that much influence on the final track lists..... ? some examples are one in a million, my world and look at your game girl....

and well.... i don?t care if tommy and the other guys decide on the tracklist/cover art or not...... it`s the music that matters....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on January 31, 2006, 01:53:24 PM
They don't have any say in what songs are on the album or what songs Axl decides to sing over-the mixing process (huge! as parts could be deleted by Axl or not used), the tracklisting, etc.

If that's the case, it's something new.

"My World" appeared on an album in 1991. I wonder who wanted it on the album.....




/jarmo
Duff :-X .

 :rofl:      are you referring to duff`s excuse ..... " oh sorry i forgot... axl wrote my world"....?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: AxlsMainMan on January 31, 2006, 01:55:13 PM
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so what?s exactely the definition of collaborative here?

i think it was the part of the band to write the music and now it`s axl`s part to actually make it sound like gnr (or queen..... ....whatever) or how he wants it to sound. there`s no doubt that he`s the captain of the ship called gnr, but that doesn?t make it a solo record though..... ?everyone`s involved and axl takes it to the right direction
... that`s my guess. and i think that?s cool, because axl`s the man

by the way i think it`s the same now as it was in the old gnr....... and don?t you think that was a collaborative effort either? and i don?t think slash and duff had that much influence on the final track lists..... ? some examples are one in a million, my world and look at your game girl....

and well.... i don?t care if tommy and the other guys decide on the tracklist/cover art or not...... it`s the music that matters....

I think the easiest way to put it would be that the music has been recorded written largely from a collaborative effort of the band, while the composing, sequencing, or overall STRUCTURING/COMPLETION of the final record will be solely on Axl's to-do list.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 01:59:09 PM
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by the way i think it`s the same now as it was in the old gnr....... and don?t you think that was a collaborative effort either?

And even as compared with other great bands, GNR has been collaborative efforts.

A M M, so where did I say all 6 bandmembers huddled around Axl in the studio all day long, going through every step of the creative process together?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on January 31, 2006, 02:35:06 PM

by the way i think it`s the same now as it was in the old gnr....... and don?t you think that was a collaborative effort either? and i don?t think slash and duff had that much influence on the final track lists..... ? some examples are one in a million, my world and look at your game girl....


For UYI and SI? Yes, I think that's how it went. By all reports it is, from both the band members and other sources. For AFD and, to a lesser extent, Lies (since much of that was just LLAS redux)?  By all reports, no. THAT was all the band members huddled around working collaboratively on each step of the process.  It's one of the reasons the writing credits were doled out on that album the way they were, I think.

Both processes seem to work, given the output.  But you can plainly see the vastly different output, too.  In addition, the extent in which Axl "took over" the UYI records goes a long way toward explaining some (if not much) of the tension in the band, IMHO.  While the music, itself, was obviously a collaborative effort, the "sound" seems to be pure Axl.  Hell, Slash's comments that his "unproduced" tracks sound better than the final mix are a testament to who steered the final production on UYI!  It's almost like he's channeling Paul McCartney.

Paul McCartney always said that "Let it Be" was the sounds of the Beatles breaking up...they just didn't know it yet (well, by the time it was finally released they did....but not while recording it nor during it's early production).  And he credits, largely, Johns "control" of the sound of that album (and, to a lesser extent, some of their recent, previous material) as what caused the tension in the band that, ultimately, led to their demise (Damn Yoko! Damn Linda!).   You can listen to UYI and, I think, plainly hear much of the same thing.  Which, again, isn't necessarily a good or bad thing...all depends on how you feel about the output. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 03:00:10 PM
And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring  its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on January 31, 2006, 03:35:24 PM
And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring? its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.

By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 04:50:56 PM
And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring  its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.

Really? So you lazybones haven't even read this one? http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?

He just popped in after 8 with his friends didn't he? It wasn't "supposed" to be anything promotional. ::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jmapelian on January 31, 2006, 05:23:50 PM
Yeah, there a real tight band alright, they haven't been in the same room together in over 3years


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on January 31, 2006, 07:07:32 PM


Really? So you lazybones haven't even read this one? http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28


Not for nothing but....do you REALLY wanna use an interview from 1999?  I mean..really?

'Cause if you read the entire interview, much of what he says in it has changed.  And, most recently, he said (serious or not, we don't know) the sound is much like "Queen". 

Or, if you mean by the "AFD spirit" the level of collaboration that existed on AFD...well, we know, by Dizzy and other band members responses certainly, that that level of collaboration doesn't exist currently.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on January 31, 2006, 07:11:07 PM
Yeah, there a real tight band alright, they haven't been in the same room together in over 3years

Maybe they're so tight that they are able to communicate telepathically.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: erose on January 31, 2006, 08:20:51 PM
Yeah, there a real tight band alright, they haven't been in the same room together in over 3years

Maybe they're so tight that they are able to communicate telepathically.

sure they had some fuck-ups on the last tour, but most of the time they were really fucking tight and no way in hell would they go out and tour if they were'nt...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on February 01, 2006, 01:44:03 AM
Come on !
In 2021, looking back to the past years, we will consider 1998-2006 as the flunkeys' era in GN'R history !


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on February 01, 2006, 09:13:45 AM
Since Axl can't write music alone he needed and needs others to write the music for him. Plain and simple. He put his Nu-GN'R to a room and told them to play and write songs. When he checked he told them if he liked or dislked something or thought they would have to work on it since the idea was good but the result wasn't. That's why these guys think it was a collaborate effort. Most of them never ever had a say in the music writing. Now they were involved in the writing. And it's good for them even with  knowing the fact that Axl decides in everything.

And then Uncle Axl began to play puzzle with the pieces and ideas. But there is no picture, that's why he hasn't released the album. Think what you want but releasing no album for 15 years is not something that makes you a 'creative mastermind'.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 01, 2006, 09:39:23 AM
Mikka, come on, you have no idea why Axl hasn't released a record-it could be a million different reasons-none of them creative issues. There is no reason to speculate because we don't know the answer. Don't always assume the worst...by assuming he can't create anything good anymore, you are assuming the worst case scenario.  :-\


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on February 01, 2006, 10:00:02 AM
by assuming he can't create anything good anymore, you are assuming the worst case scenario.? :-\

Mikka is considering the worst case scenario. After 15 years without a new GN'R album, who wouldn't do so ?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 01, 2006, 11:15:01 AM


Really? So you lazybones haven't even read this one? http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28


Not for nothing but....do you REALLY wanna use an interview from 1999?  I mean..really?

Yes really. Or do you think the views/ judgment he has formed in 7~12 yrs of his own works would dramatically change afterward? And would he forget what he learned the hard way?

Plus if you read what he said to a RS writer a couple of weeks ago, it appeares that the gist of his ideas about the album hasn't really changed much from 1999.

'Cause if you read the entire interview, much of what he says in it has changed.  And, most recently, he said (serious or not, we don't know) the sound is much like "Queen".


Did he say so? Really? I guess I haven't seen that one. Can you quote his exact words?

Or, if you mean by the "AFD spirit" the level of collaboration that existed on AFD...well, we know, by Dizzy and other band members responses certainly, that that level of collaboration doesn't exist currently.


Yes, I mean the collaborative aspect. I thought it was obvious if you read your own post on the top of this page.
As for the current process, surely it's not like writing music.
I have never said all the members are working together at this stage. Nor do I say no one is collaborating with the captain now unless I hear something corroborative from GNR. Axl seems to know when to say "we" and when to say "I" tho.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 01, 2006, 01:00:28 PM

Yes really. Or do you think the views/ judgment he has formed in 7~12 yrs of his own works would dramatically change afterward? And would he forget what he learned the hard way?

Plus if you read what he said to a RS writer a couple of weeks ago, it appeares that the gist of his ideas about the album hasn't really changed much from 1999.


See, I disagree.? I think it's pretty vastly different than what he was saying in '99. It's even different that what he was saying in '02.? In addition, there is a good chunk of information that we DO have that is in juxtaposition of what he said in '99.? And, honesly, I would expect it to be...it was almost 7 years ago, after all.? Do you expect him not to learn from his experiences over the past 7 years and incorporate them?? ?It think it's a tough arguement to make, given the evidence, that this is a collaborative effort in the vein of AFD.? An almost impossible one, really.

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Did he say so? Really? I guess I haven't seen that one. Can you quote his exact words?

It's in the same RS interview you're talking about.

"The notoriously reclusive rocker is of course referring to Guns n' Roses' decade-in-the-making Chinese Democracy, arguably the most anticipated album in rock & roll history. "It's a very complex record," says Rose, a surprise guest at Korn's tour announcement bash. (Others in the house: Jessica Alba, cast members of The OC, and members of Linkin Park, Good Charlotte and the Used.) "I'm trying to do something different. Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen. Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" He then smiles and adds, "But you'll like at least a few songs on there.""

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Yes, I mean the collaborative aspect. I thought it was obvious if you read your own post on the top of this page.
As for the current process, surely it's not like writing music.
I have never said all the members are working together at this stage. Nor do I say no one is collaborating with the captain now unless I hear something corroborative from GNR. Axl seems to know when to say "we" and when to say "I" tho.

Actually, the arrangement and mixing of the music is very much similar to the process of writing music.? Some different skills, to be sure, but just an extension of the writing process really.? It's taking the music and giving it a "sound".? It drastically effects? a piece of music...almost as much as the actual playing of the instrumentals, themselves.? So, while the band, IMHO, may have participated in writing the notes down on the page, and, for sure, that's a very important piece of the process...if they're not participating in this step, to the point where they don't even know what the material sounds like, it would be pretty hard for me to label the entire album creation as collaborative.? And it would be neigh on impossilble to draw parallels to AFD, where ALL the members WERE involved in each step in the process.

Making an album is NOT just writing the music.? That's just one piece, albeit an important one.? Again, was the writing process collaborative? It seems so.? Is the album creation process? I think the evidence would point to the fact it is not.? Again, that's not good or bad.? It just is.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Voodoochild on February 01, 2006, 01:52:44 PM
Really? So you lazybones haven't even read this one? http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28
Not for nothing but....do you REALLY wanna use an interview from 1999?  I mean..really?

'Cause if you read the entire interview, much of what he says in it has changed.  And, most recently, he said (serious or not, we don't know) the sound is much like "Queen".
Actually, this didn't change much, as you can see in the very same article ppbebe posted:

Rose: It's a lot of different sounds. There's some other really heavy songs, there's a lot of aggressive songs, but they're all in different styles and different sounds. It is truly a melting pot.

I go back to listening to Queen -- you know, we're still hoping to have Brian May come in and do some tracks, and I got a fax today that he's coming in -- Queen had all kinds of different-style songs on their records, and that's something that I like. 'Cause I do listen to a lot of things, and I really don't like being pigeonholed to that degree, and it's something that Guns N' Roses seem to share [with Queen] a bit.


http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 01, 2006, 02:47:51 PM
Tanks, voodoo!


See, I disagree.  I think it's pretty vastly different than what he was saying in '99. It's even different that what he was saying in '02.  In addition, there is a good chunk of information that we DO have that is in juxtaposition of what he said in '99.  And, honesly, I would expect it to be...it was almost 7 years ago, after all.  Do you expect him not to learn from his experiences over the past 7 years and incorporate them?   It think it's a tough arguement to make, given the evidence, that this is a collaborative effort in the vein of AFD.  An almost impossible one, really.

Well Learning is gaining new knowledge. it wouldn't cause you to lose other knowledge you already have.
At least in my case it doesn't.

"The notoriously reclusive rocker is of course referring to Guns n' Roses' decade-in-the-making Chinese Democracy, arguably the most anticipated album in rock & roll history. "It's a very complex record," says Rose, a surprise guest at Korn's tour announcement bash. (Others in the house: Jessica Alba, cast members of The OC, and members of Linkin Park, Good Charlotte and the Used.) "I'm trying to do something different. Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen. Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" He then smiles and adds, "But you'll like at least a few songs on there.""

In 1999 he described the album as a melting pot. He referred to Queen concerning the diversity.

In 2006 he describes it as very complex and different.
It's SOME OF the arrangements that are said to have resemblance to queen and NOT the whole album. probably we'll see a dramatic/operatic touch of the queen type on some of the songs. I assume the mention was again an example in regard to the variety for which everyone will find "at least a few" their own fav songs there.

(C & p job from voodoo's link. :P)

Actually, the arrangement and mixing of the music is very much similar to the process of writing music.  Some different skills, to be sure, but just an extension of the writing process really.  It's taking the music and giving it a "sound".  It drastically effects  a piece of music...almost as much as the actual playing of the instrumentals, themselves.  So, while the band, IMHO, may have participated in writing the notes down on the page, and, for sure, that's a very important piece of the process...if they're not participating in this step, to the point where they don't even know what the material sounds like, it would be pretty hard for me to label the entire album creation as collaborative.  And it would be neigh on impossilble to draw parallels to AFD, where ALL the members WERE involved in each step in the process.

Making an album is NOT just writing the music.  That's just one piece, albeit an important one.  Again, was the writing process collaborative? It seems so.  Is the album creation process? I think the evidence would point to the fact it is not.  Again, that's not good or bad.  It just is.

True that making an album is not just writing music.

Still the song writing process is the most important part. As Dizzy says

Q: Do you think the record will appeal to fans? The sound that is.

Dizzy: "You can't please everybody. The quality of the songs goes a long ways. If you can play the song on the piano or just on a lone guitar and it still sounds great- then the song stands out on its own. All the songs are like that so I think the songs will carry the record. You know what? There are probably already a million people who have their minds made up that there gonna hate the album. You know- fuck those people. They probably will buy it... who knows? And I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised too. Or you know... maybe noone will buy it- you know? You can't predict the future. It's the tunnel theory of ever-changing things- you never know."


I'm yet to be so certain about the album creation process.
I doubt that no one other than Axl has their say at all.
I need evidence.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 01, 2006, 03:06:36 PM
Well Learning is gaining new knowledge. it wouldn't cause you to lose other knowledge you already have.
At least in my case it doesn't.

Hmmm, really? So, when you learn new things you don't/won't change the way you do things, doing them different than you used to, based on that new knowledge?? You might not "forget" the old way, but you may adopt a "new" way because you like it more, find it more efficient, or have new tools.? I may very well answer a question quite differently than I did 7 years ago....I'm sure the same is true of you.

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I doubt that no one other than Axl has their say at all.
I need evidence.

You have it.? Read the other bandmembers comments.? Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past).? Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject.? Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.

And is music writing the most important part of the process? Hmmm....idealistically it is.? But, in truth, the mix and arrangement can actually be as important, or more important (depending on the artist), in how the overall song sounds.? I understand Dizzy's comments, but, realistically, he's not telling the WHOLE truth.?  It's also further evidence that, once the "guitar/piano" phase ended, so did his overall involvement in the creation of the music.  And maybe that's how he (and the rest of the band) wanted it...I don't know.

 Listen to "Let it Be" and "Let it be Naked".? Same muscial structure to each of those songs on both albums...COMPLETELY different "sound".? Some of those songs bear little to no resemblance to each other simply because of the production.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 01, 2006, 03:14:55 PM

Actually, this didn't change much, as you can see in the very same article ppbebe posted:

Rose: It's a lot of different sounds. There's some other really heavy songs, there's a lot of aggressive songs, but they're all in different styles and different sounds. It is truly a melting pot.

I go back to listening to Queen -- you know, we're still hoping to have Brian May come in and do some tracks, and I got a fax today that he's coming in -- Queen had all kinds of different-style songs on their records, and that's something that I like. 'Cause I do listen to a lot of things, and I really don't like being pigeonholed to that degree, and it's something that Guns N' Roses seem to share [with Queen] a bit.


http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

We all know Queen is one of Axl's influences...he's said as much before.

But trying to make the connection between Axl saying the album would have an eclectic track listing, like Queen was want to do, and saying that the song arrangements are much like Queens, is a tenuous claim, I think.  Other than the fact they both have the word "Queen" in them, the assertions mean pretty different things.

There are so many differences in the '99 article....just look at the number of tracks he lists there (16 to 18), and now in '06 (13).? Look at who he talks about laying down instrumentals (Josh Freeze and Paul Huge are mentioned).? There are a bunch of other changes, both with what he said in '06, AND what he said before the '02 tour.?

I'm just saying...using a 7 year old interview to support your position isn't, maybe, the best piece of evidence to base your case on. Especially when there is more recent, contradictory, information specifically about the thing you're trying to assert.? 7 years is a LONG time.? In 7 years my entire life has changed.? I'd bet the same is true for almost every member of this board....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: AxlsMainMan on February 01, 2006, 03:16:15 PM
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You have it. ?Read the other bandmembers comments. ?Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past). ?Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject. ?Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.

Thanks Pilferk, you've said me the time of reaffirming the point I also argued with Ppbebe : ok:

It really doesnt matter if the other bandmembers are watching Axl via camera compose the album from his studio, if there not with him as a whole band assisting in the production process and the composing of the record, than sorry that's not really a band effort..that's called culminating an encyclopedia of song fragments and pieces all my Axl's self. Only after Axl feels completely satisfied by the sweat of his labors will he give the sign for the bandmembers who previously contributed to each song to return to the fold and drop the record as a BAND.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 01, 2006, 03:32:25 PM
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You have it.  Read the other bandmembers comments.  Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past).  Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject.  Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.

Thanks Pilferk, you've said me the time of reaffirming the point I also argued with Ppbebe : ok:

It really doesnt matter if the other bandmembers are watching Axl via camera compose the album from his studio, if there not with him as a whole band assisting in the production process and the composing of the record, than sorry that's not really a band effort..that's called culminating an encyclopedia of song fragments and pieces all my Axl's self. Only after Axl feels completely satisfied by the sweat of his labors will he give the sign for the bandmembers who previously contributed to each song to return to the fold and drop the record as a BAND.

yeah    .........  the only thing i don`t agree with you is the "no band effort" thing....   they did their work and now axl`s doing his......    i like the way this album is recorded, because i don`t want to listen to village gorilla head, but to chinese democracy and so somebody (axl) has to have a vision....

and we don`t exactely know who`s participating in the mixing part etc.... tommy, dizzel and richard are surely not that`s right..... but that doesn?t mean that axl`s doing his own thing now..... and even if he is i`d still call it a collaborative effort.....everyone is doing what he`s supposed to...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 01, 2006, 03:36:32 PM
And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring  its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.

By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?

axl was going out with some family friends of his and his assistand for dinner and decided to go to the korn party to have some fun and he had to call the band members to escort??  ridiculous :rofl:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on February 01, 2006, 03:44:59 PM
And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring? its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.

By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?

axl was going out with some family friends of his and his assistand for dinner and decided to go to the korn party to have some fun and he had to call the band members to escort??? ridiculous :rofl:

OK, it's ridiculous. But the guys of Good Charlotte attended the party together. As a band.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on February 01, 2006, 03:49:38 PM
It doesn't matter to me that Axl went to this party alone. But the last time they were together, for anything was at least three years and a month ago.

That's what's rediculous. I'd at least expect them to jam together, considering they lost a guitarist in that span.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on February 01, 2006, 03:56:25 PM
It doesn't matter to me that Axl went to this party alone. But the last time they were together, for anything was at least three years and a month ago.

That's what's rediculous. I'd at least expect them to jam together, considering they lost a guitarist in that span.

Axl being alone at the party, I know, it's not very important. Just a sign...


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on February 01, 2006, 04:01:35 PM
and we don`t exactely know who`s participating in the mixing part etc.... tommy, dizzel and richard are surely not that`s right..... but that doesn?t mean that axl`s doing his own thing now..... and even if he is i`d still call it a collaborative effort.....everyone is doing what he`s supposed to...

I have been trying my hardest to not ge tinvolved in this argument again but i just have to

This is what the band members are supposed to be doing FOR GnR right now?

Finck - Dunno, last seen writing plays
Richard - Was recording for a week or two but now off with NINA again
Brain - Dunno last seen doing drum schools in England
Tommy - Dunno, Last seen with Soul Asylum
Dizzy - off on his own performing in college dorms and touring with Hookers'N'Blow
Pittman - Dunno last seen with his band Zaum

Axl - Recording, Mixing, Picking Tracklistings, Producing GNR STUFF

I mean it's quite possible that Robin, Brain, Tommy and Pittman are around Axl but I doubt it. we have no indications to say otherwise. any interview you read with them is "I haven't talked to Axl in a Year" or "GnR hasn't all been in the same room since MSG 2002"

Axl IS GnR right now

Good Charlotte sux :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 01, 2006, 04:32:22 PM
Well Learning is gaining new knowledge. it wouldn't cause you to lose other knowledge you already have.
At least in my case it doesn't.

Hmmm, really? So, when you learn new things you don't/won't change the way you do things, doing them different than you used to, based on that new knowledge?  You might not "forget" the old way, but you may adopt a "new" way because you like it more, find it more efficient, or have new tools.  I may very well answer a question quite differently than I did 7 years ago....I'm sure the same is true of you.

Yes. when the change is necessary and for the better.
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I doubt that no one other than Axl has their say at all.
I need evidence.

You have it.  Read the other bandmembers comments.  Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past).  Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject.  Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.

I can hardly consider these as hard evidence.
Have we heard from other members? Robin? Chris?
Have we heard about the finalized track list yet? Even from Axl?

Listen to "Let it Be" and "Let it be Naked".  Same muscial structure to each of those songs on both albums...COMPLETELY different "sound".  Some of those songs bear little to no resemblance to each other simply because of the production.

And does either of them sound horrid?

There are so many differences in the '99 article....just look at the number of tracks he lists there (16 to 18), and now in '06 (13).  Look at who he talks about laying down instrumentals (Josh Freeze and Paul Huge are mentioned).  There are a bunch of other changes, both with what he said in '06, AND what he said before the '02 tour.

These are not the gist of Axl's ideas on the album, are they?
initially I just posted the link to the article in relation to the albums of 1.5~2 decades ago you brought up. If you have a recent article where he talks about those things, post it plz.

Now, to see the consistency in Axl's ideas, the article is relevant.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 01, 2006, 04:54:11 PM
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You have it. Read the other bandmembers comments. Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past). Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject. Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.
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I can hardly consider these as hard evidence.
Have we heard from other members? Robin? Chris?
Have we heard about the finalized track list yet? Even from Axl?


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the tracklist is a good example.  the whole band will decide about tracklist/cover and stuff but this point isn`t reached yet. at least that`s what i believe......

i really hope that there will be a documentary about the making of CD at some point.....so that we really know what`s goin on : ok:


and we don`t exactely know who`s participating in the mixing part etc.... tommy, dizzel and richard are surely not that`s right..... but that doesn?t mean that axl`s doing his own thing now..... and even if he is i`d still call it a collaborative effort.....everyone is doing what he`s supposed to...

I have been trying my hardest to not ge tinvolved in this argument again but i just have to

This is what the band members are supposed to be doing FOR GnR right now?

Finck - Dunno, last seen writing plays
Richard - Was recording for a week or two but now off with NINA again
Brain - Dunno last seen doing drum schools in England
Tommy - Dunno, Last seen with Soul Asylum
Dizzy - off on his own performing in college dorms and touring with Hookers'N'Blow
Pittman - Dunno last seen with his band Zaum

Axl - Recording, Mixing, Picking Tracklistings, Producing GNR STUFF

I mean it's quite possible that Robin, Brain, Tommy and Pittman are around Axl but I doubt it. we have no indications to say otherwise. any interview you read with them is "I haven't talked to Axl in a Year" or "GnR hasn't all been in the same room since MSG 2002"

Axl IS GnR right now

Good Charlotte sux :P




well  they allready did what they were supposed to so there`s no need to continue working with axl at the moment....



And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring  its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.

By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?

axl was going out with some family friends of his and his assistand for dinner and decided to go to the korn party to have some fun and he had to call the band members to escort??  ridiculous :rofl:

OK, it's ridiculous. But the guys of Good Charlotte attended the party together. As a band.

yeah.... they?re a boy band.... they have to attend a party together ;) it`s part of their contract....

by the way...  it seems that axl didn`t plan to attend the party, ie he went there spontaneously....  and since he isn`t hanging out with his band mates they weren`t with him.......  and members of a band don`t have to hang out with each other......   it`s about the music....    look at the old band.... it doesn`t work for axl to have a band with his friends....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 01, 2006, 05:02:28 PM
It really doesnt matter if the other bandmembers are watching Axl via camera compose the album from his studio, if there not with him as a whole band assisting in the production process and the composing of the record, than sorry that's not really a band effort..that's called culminating an encyclopedia of song fragments and pieces all my Axl's self.

Again, maybe Led Zeppelin was not a band then. Just their leader was a bit quick about his job.
neither were great many of so called bands.

I think otherwise. Why not. when the band members including the captain A themselves are saying it's not an Axl Rose show but it's collaborative.

Q: Going back to that then, is the album more of a collaborative effort or is it the Axl Rose show?

Dizzy: No, it's collaborative, yes. [Dizzy says this with conviction- responding immediately]


Basically, They've been there. We have not.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jmapelian on February 01, 2006, 05:39:30 PM
IMO, any song that takes years to finish just can't be that great of a song.

Zeppelin wrote arguably the best song of all time in about 15 minutes.



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 01, 2006, 06:25:32 PM
IMO, any song that takes years to finish just can't be that great of a song.

Zeppelin wrote arguably the best song of all time in about 15 minutes.



It's obvious that the whole CD recording schedule have always been long periods of inactivity mixed with endless jam sessions.?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 01, 2006, 06:30:59 PM
endless jam sessions.?
Source?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 01, 2006, 07:03:53 PM

Dammit James! :rant:  Check that Rolling Stone article in 2000.  It's been mentioned somewhere.




Or I could be the source. :nervous:




  ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 01, 2006, 07:15:49 PM

Dammit James! :rant:? Check that Rolling Stone article in 2000.? It's been mentioned somewhere.




Or I could be the source. :nervous:




? ;D
I remember some article from around 1997 when Duff said Axl had rented some arena/ampitheater so they could all jam together. Maybe thats what you're thinking of. I dont remember any mention of current GNR doing 'endless jam sessions'. But I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: avesia on February 01, 2006, 07:18:05 PM
yup...I remember that 2000 RS article too :yes:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on February 01, 2006, 07:28:20 PM

Dammit James! :rant:? Check that Rolling Stone article in 2000.? It's been mentioned somewhere.




Or I could be the source. :nervous:




? ;D
I remember some article from around 1997 when Duff said Axl had rented some arena/ampitheater so they could all jam together. Maybe thats what you're thinking of. I dont remember any mention of current GNR doing 'endless jam sessions'. But I could be wrong.

Could be, but I think that NY Times article mentioned it as well.  But of course, that article is cursed.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 01, 2006, 07:37:33 PM
I think that NY Times article mentioned it as well.? But of course, that article is cursed.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think the Times did make some reference to jam sessions. Why do you say that article is cursed? I thought it was an interesting article. It showed Axl's lack of seriousness in handling this project, and showed how the procrastination was/is spiraling out of control.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: killingvector on February 01, 2006, 07:39:39 PM
I think that NY Times article mentioned it as well.  But of course, that article is cursed.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think the Times did make some reference to jam sessions. Why do you say that article is cursed? I thought it was an interesting article. It showed Axl's lack of seriousness in handling this project, and showed how the procrastination was/is spiraling out of control.


Also its sources were outdated and out of the loop.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 01, 2006, 07:55:46 PM
Also its sources were outdated and out of the loop.
True, but he made some good points. : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: AxlsMainMan on February 01, 2006, 09:19:02 PM
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I think otherwise. Why not. when the band members including the captain A themselves are saying it's not an Axl Rose show but it's collaborative.

What would you honestly expect Tommy or Dizzy to say?

We were there strictly for the writing and constructing of the songs, but after all the music Axl thought he needed was on tape, he gave us the order to go out and do solo schlock shows indefinately?

The interviewer would immediately fire back with some question like, "So this really is an Axl solo record if he's doing the rest of the work by himself."

It looks better on the band and the members as a whole if they make it sound like there very much up to date with the record, and in the loop. Or else its just bollocks to say, "Yeah Ive been in Gn'R for 8 years with no album to show for it. Still waiting on Round 2 perhaps.."

If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02, I truly think thats saying alot Ppbebe about the closeness of this group of musicians. They might be best friends outside of the band and talk together everyday, but if there not even jamming together at least, that's a band on "hold" to me... :-\


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: BD888 on February 01, 2006, 09:22:28 PM
Great interview.  If only the other members would give such candid interviews as well.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on February 01, 2006, 10:23:10 PM
If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02, I truly think thats saying alot Ppbebe about the closeness of this group of musicians. They might be best friends outside of the band and talk together everyday, but if there not even jamming together at least, that's a band on "hold" to me... :-\

But Dizzy pretty much said, in this interview, that he never talks to anybody.

Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody.  Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so.  I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]
[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.

sounds like he's pretty close with the rest of the guys huh?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: RnT on February 01, 2006, 10:38:45 PM
If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02, I truly think thats saying alot Ppbebe about the closeness of this group of musicians. They might be best friends outside of the band and talk together everyday, but if there not even jamming together at least, that's a band on "hold" to me... :-\

But Dizzy pretty much said, in this interview, that he never talks to anybody.

Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody.? Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so.? I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]
[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.

sounds like he's pretty close with the rest of the guys huh?

I still don?t get what?s goin on with this band


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: the dirt on February 01, 2006, 11:15:02 PM
Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody.? Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so.


???

? I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

Ah, the love.


What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?

Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]

The chemistry must be uncanny.? [the dirt laughs]


[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.

Well, they were on the planet at the same time! That's good. I guess ;D



sounds like he's pretty close with the rest of the guys huh?

I'm convinced.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on February 02, 2006, 01:10:00 AM

sounds like he's pretty close with the rest of the guys huh?

I'm convinced.

Me too.
I'm also convinced that Axl met those guys for the first time in a Manpower office.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Voodoochild on February 02, 2006, 01:10:53 AM

Actually, this didn't change much, as you can see in the very same article ppbebe posted:

Rose: It's a lot of different sounds. There's some other really heavy songs, there's a lot of aggressive songs, but they're all in different styles and different sounds. It is truly a melting pot.

I go back to listening to Queen -- you know, we're still hoping to have Brian May come in and do some tracks, and I got a fax today that he's coming in -- Queen had all kinds of different-style songs on their records, and that's something that I like. 'Cause I do listen to a lot of things, and I really don't like being pigeonholed to that degree, and it's something that Guns N' Roses seem to share [with Queen] a bit.


http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

We all know Queen is one of Axl's influences...he's said as much before.

But trying to make the connection between Axl saying the album would have an eclectic track listing, like Queen was want to do, and saying that the song arrangements are much like Queens, is a tenuous claim, I think.  Other than the fact they both have the word "Queen" in them, the assertions mean pretty different things.

There are so many differences in the '99 article....just look at the number of tracks he lists there (16 to 18), and now in '06 (13).  Look at who he talks about laying down instrumentals (Josh Freeze and Paul Huge are mentioned).  There are a bunch of other changes, both with what he said in '06, AND what he said before the '02 tour. 

I'm just saying...using a 7 year old interview to support your position isn't, maybe, the best piece of evidence to base your case on. Especially when there is more recent, contradictory, information specifically about the thing you're trying to assert.  7 years is a LONG time.  In 7 years my entire life has changed.  I'd bet the same is true for almost every member of this board....
1) He didn't say all the tracks of the album would sound like Queen cover.

2) He said in '99 how he called Brian May to play in a couple of tracks. Even Dizzy in the supposed interview talked about that when asked about this "Queen sound".

3) If he said in early stages of the album how he was listening a lot of Queen, I guess that's a good indication how he wants the sound. It's obvious he didn't mention this band like all he wanted to do would put songs with ecletic tracks like Queen. If you can't see that in the interview, connecting to what Axl said now, it's your choice.

4) There's no contradiction here. I strongly believe that the main concept of the album didn't change that much since he dropped the industrial sound, since a lot of the songs made in '99 were still there in '02, last year of major recordings like Tommy said in the recent interview.

5) Yeah, 7 years is a lot. But hey, back then he already have The Blues, one of the best songs to him. Same to Chinese Democracy, IRS and who knows what else. I don't think those songs would sound that much different now but this is just my opinion, of course. Little details were made, like Madagascar from RIR3 to 2002 version, but it's still the same song.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 02, 2006, 07:58:07 AM
If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02, I truly think thats saying alot Ppbebe about the closeness of this group of musicians. They might be best friends outside of the band and talk together everyday, but if there not even jamming together at least, that's a band on "hold" to me... :-\

But Dizzy pretty much said, in this interview, that he never talks to anybody.


actually he said he isn`t hanging out with them... that`s a BIG difference  i don`t hang out that much with some of my best friends either, because they`re living in a different city.... by the way it doesn`t have to be about friendship and stuff.... it`s a proffessional band. they don?t need to be friends : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Mikkamakka on February 02, 2006, 08:21:04 AM
5) Yeah, 7 years is a lot. But hey, back then he already have The Blues, one of the best songs to him. Same to Chinese Democracy, IRS and who knows what else. I don't think those songs would sound that much different now but this is just my opinion, of course. Little details were made, like Madagascar from RIR3 to 2002 version, but it's still the same song.

I'm afraid you're wrong. Dizzy said in an interview (in 2005? 2004?) that every song has a lot of different versions and he hoped that his parts will be on CD. (He's really involved in the making, I guess.)

And when Merck took his precious time and told something about the leaked IRS it was something like 'this version is not even close to the song's current state'.

And a quote Caram Costanzo. He said something like 'Only three of us know anything relevant about Chinese Democracy'. They were Costanzo, Axl and 'another person'. It proves that it's a real team effort. Who can be the mysterious third? Beta? Yoda?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 02, 2006, 08:24:15 AM
5) Yeah, 7 years is a lot. But hey, back then he already have The Blues, one of the best songs to him. Same to Chinese Democracy, IRS and who knows what else. I don't think those songs would sound that much different now but this is just my opinion, of course. Little details were made, like Madagascar from RIR3 to 2002 version, but it's still the same song.

I'm afraid you're wrong. Dizzy said in an interview (in 2005? 2004?) that every song has a lot of different versions and he hoped that his parts will be on CD. (He's really involved in the making, I guess.)

And when Merck took his precious time and told something about the leaked IRS it was something like 'this version is not even close to the song's current state'.

And a quote Caram Costanzo. He said something like 'Only three of us know anything relevant about Chinese Democracy'. They were Costanzo, Axl and 'another person'. It proves that it's a real team effort. Who can be the mysterious third? Beta? Yoda?

merck propbably....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 02, 2006, 08:27:28 AM
1) He didn't say all the tracks of the album would sound like Queen cover.

2) He said in '99 how he called Brian May to play in a couple of tracks. Even Dizzy in the supposed interview talked about that when asked about this "Queen sound".

3) If he said in early stages of the album how he was listening a lot of Queen, I guess that's a good indication how he wants the sound. It's obvious he didn't mention this band like all he wanted to do would put songs with ecletic tracks like Queen. If you can't see that in the interview, connecting to what Axl said now, it's your choice.

4) There's no contradiction here. I strongly believe that the main concept of the album didn't change that much since he dropped the industrial sound, since a lot of the songs made in '99 were still there in '02, last year of major recordings like Tommy said in the recent interview.

5) Yeah, 7 years is a lot. But hey, back then he already have The Blues, one of the best songs to him. Same to Chinese Democracy, IRS and who knows what else. I don't think those songs would sound that much different now but this is just my opinion, of course. Little details were made, like Madagascar from RIR3 to 2002 version, but it's still the same song.

1) Nor did I say that he did. ?He simply said, in this most recent interview, some of the arrangments are remenicient of Queen.

2) Just because Brian May plays on a track does not mean it sounds like Queen. ?Didn't then, doesn't now. ?And again, Axl's not commenting on musical structure in EITHER interview. ?He was, in the most recent article, talking about arrangements.

3) You're reading into the 99 interview, rather than reading it. ?He's very specific about what he means. He's talking about the eclectic track listing. ?He even says so. ? It's YOU who are making a choice...one to read an inference that doesn't exist.

4) But, oddly, in interviews around the time of the '02 tour, and in other more recent ones, the band members have talked about how much the album has changed since the begining. ?Witness Rhiad and Silkworms, and the uncertainty of a final tracklist. ?Of course the early music still "exists". ?They're not going to completely throw out recorded material. ?

5) Again, "same song" in what sense? ?Musically and lyrically? Probably. ?But the arrangement (witness all the different ways GnR has played KOHD and the BIG difference in the way that track sounds just during live performances), mixing, and production are going to go a LONG way toward influencing what the final product of that material is. Madagascar is a great example. During the '02 tour, it was pretty "orchestral" in it's arrangement. ?Take that same song and make it a guitar driven ballad (ala SCOM....and no, I'm not suggesting this has been done) and, while the musical structure stays the same, the "sound" of the song changes drastically.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on February 02, 2006, 09:34:59 AM
But Dizzy pretty much said, in this interview, that he never talks to anybody.


actually he said he isn`t hanging out with them... that`s a BIG difference? i don`t hang out that much with some of my best friends either, because they`re living in a different city.... by the way it doesn`t have to be about friendship and stuff.... it`s a proffessional band. they don?t need to be friends : ok:

Quote from: Madagascar88/Dizzy
Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody. Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so. I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

You must have missed this part of the interview, what exactly is "from time to time"? I talk to old freinds from "time to time" which boils down to about once every 2 months. While I've known those freinds for more than 20 years I don't think the same can be said for the current version of GnR. (minus Axl/Dizzy of course)

Quote from: Madagascar88/Dizzy
How long have you actually known Axl Rose?

"Umm... I'm trying to remember... I'd say 20 years... we met in Hollywood when I first moved there and... he just liked the way I played the piano. At the time, in the 80s, most of the keyboard players that were playing at the time were kind of classically-trained and you know... they were good but they would not have fitted in with Guns N' Roses songs. And I think he realized that I would be able to play and add something that would raise the songs."

20 years is a long fucking time, and I dunno about Axl and Dizzy but when I was younger I used to spend every waking moment with my freinds, they are like my family. I mean i have good freinds that I have known for a few years but after not talking to them in a bit it's a bit awkward at first, until we catch up. With the people I've known 'forever' we can just hang out like no time has passed, even if we haven't hung out for like 1 year or 6 months.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 02, 2006, 11:54:18 AM
But Dizzy pretty much said, in this interview, that he never talks to anybody.


actually he said he isn`t hanging out with them... that`s a BIG difference  i don`t hang out that much with some of my best friends either, because they`re living in a different city.... by the way it doesn`t have to be about friendship and stuff.... it`s a proffessional band. they don?t need to be friends : ok:

Quote from: Madagascar88/Dizzy
Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?

I don't really hang out with anybody. Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so. I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.

You must have missed this part of the interview, what exactly is "from time to time"? I talk to old freinds from "time to time" which boils down to about once every 2 months. While I've known those freinds for more than 20 years I don't think the same can be said for the current version of GnR. (minus Axl/Dizzy of course)

Quote from: Madagascar88/Dizzy
How long have you actually known Axl Rose?

"Umm... I'm trying to remember... I'd say 20 years... we met in Hollywood when I first moved there and... he just liked the way I played the piano. At the time, in the 80s, most of the keyboard players that were playing at the time were kind of classically-trained and you know... they were good but they would not have fitted in with Guns N' Roses songs. And I think he realized that I would be able to play and add something that would raise the songs."

20 years is a long fucking time, and I dunno about Axl and Dizzy but when I was younger I used to spend every waking moment with my freinds, they are like my family. I mean i have good freinds that I have known for a few years but after not talking to them in a bit it's a bit awkward at first, until we catch up. With the people I've known 'forever' we can just hang out like no time has passed, even if we haven't hung out for like 1 year or 6 months.


actually this was exactely the part i was referring to...  did you read my post?  :hihi: :peace:

i said i don`t hang out with some of my best friends often, because they`re away.... i`m living in germany...one of my friends lives in slovenia...i actually don?t talk to him or write him for 6 months sometimes, but we`re best friends though.....   but that wasn`t my point actually... i said it`s a proffessional band. they don`t have to be best friends. it`s fine when they get along.... if gnr were touring he`d hang out with them for sure. i don`t think anyone here wants to seriously doubt that.  and so it`s either sure he`s hanging out with the guys he`s playing with right now. it`s also sure that he likes to hang out with his kids..... the guy is 40+ now...  he isn`t in his early twenties anymore. he has his own life and family.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on February 02, 2006, 01:04:29 PM

actually this was exactely the part i was referring to...? did you read my post?? :hihi: :peace:

i said i don`t hang out with some of my best friends often, because they`re away.... i`m living in germany...one of my friends lives in slovenia...i actually don?t talk to him or write him for 6 months sometimes, but we`re best friends though.....? ?but that wasn`t my point actually... i said it`s a proffessional band. they don`t have to be best friends. it`s fine when they get along.... if gnr were touring he`d hang out with them for sure. i don`t think anyone here wants to seriously doubt that.? and so it`s either sure he`s hanging out with the guys he`s playing with right now. it`s also sure that he likes to hang out with his kids..... the guy is 40+ now...? he isn`t in his early twenties anymore. he has his own life and family.

I know what you're saying and can relate, but we are talking about how "tight" the band is. IMHO "tight" bands know eah other inside and out, they know what a guy is thinking about playing before he plays it. That's what Made Axl and Izzy so fucking great of a team. They grew up together and ran away together and started multiple bands together,. And Why Duff and Slash are so fantastic right now in VR. They went through so much crap together, they are like 2 parts of one musician.

When it comes down to it it's all speculation of course but just can't imagine them being super tight unless they know each other.

I guess i should be happy though, they think each other "is really cool" ::)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 02, 2006, 01:26:36 PM
Richard and Tommy are best friends-Brain and Bucket were/are best friends. You can't be tighter than Bucket and Brain are. Of course, Bucket is no more... :'(


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 02, 2006, 02:03:37 PM
ok neemo    they aren`t what one calls a tight band..... there`s no doubt

they were probably until '02 i`d guess....except bucket....   and they might will be again when something starts to happen again


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 02, 2006, 02:28:16 PM
Bucket and Brain aren't tight musically????-have you ever seen them play together?? They are as tight as it gets. Richard and Tommy are best friends and have done multiple projects together-very similar in feel and style-a great rhythm section. They are very tight. Two distinct camps but there were distinct "camps" in the old Gnr as well. Just admit that none of you really know what your talking about when it comes to band chemsitry. You haven't toured with these guys and you certainly weren't around from 1998 to early 2003 when they did a MASSIVE amount of recording and rehearsing. They may not be tight musically today because they haven't all seen each other in 3 years. Skilled professionals will pick the chemistry back up very quickly once the ball starts rolling. And make no doubt about it, Axl has a group of "skilled" professionals. :beer: As a matter of fact, Axl may be the weak link and unable to keep up with the monstrosity that he let loose in the studio from 1998 to 2003. Ever consider that? I do. ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on February 02, 2006, 02:40:04 PM
They may not be tight musically today because they haven't all seen each other in 3 years.

That's what my point was though.

Also you are right I have no idea what their relationships with each other are like. I'm just speculating based on information from various interviews. and they all say that they barely see each other or talk to each other/

ok neemo they aren`t what one calls a tight band..... there`s no doubt

they were probably until '02 i`d guess....except bucket.... and they might will be again when something starts to happen again

I'm sure they will be as good or better than 2002 when we see them again : ok: (if we see them again :nervous: that's what makes me sad about the whole situation, we may never see GnR tour again :'( )


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 02, 2006, 02:42:19 PM
,Axl may be the weak link and unable to keep up with the monstrosity that he let loose in the studio from 1998 to 2003.
:rofl: :rofl:  Gimme a fucking break! ?That's definitely the most insane thing I've ever read at this forum. You should win some type of an award. : ok:

What could possibly lead you to that conclusion? In my opinion, thats the worst excuse for the long wait. In my opinion, its probably the other way around. If he's having to go through shitloads of tapes and piece music together to create the songs, and isn't getting much help in that matter, then it looks like Axl is the genius here and his band is the weak link in the matter.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 02, 2006, 03:07:25 PM
1) Nor did I say that he did.  He simply said, in this most recent interview, some of the arrangments are remenicient of Queen.

2) Just because Brian May plays on a track does not mean it sounds like Queen.  Didn't then, doesn't now.  And again, Axl's not commenting on musical structure in EITHER interview.  He was, in the most recent article, talking about arrangements.


Oh Really? don't you think the following post sounds otherwise? That's why I thought I might have missed the latest update.

Not for nothing but....do you REALLY wanna use an interview from 1999?  I mean..really?

'Cause if you read the entire interview, much of what he says in it has changed.  And, most recently, he said (serious or not, we don't know) the sound is much like "Queen". 

Or, if you mean by the "AFD spirit" the level of collaboration that existed on AFD...well, we know, by Dizzy and other band members responses certainly, that that level of collaboration doesn't exist currently.


3) You're reading into the 99 interview, rather than reading it.  He's very specific about what he means. He's talking about the eclectic track listing.  He even says so.   It's YOU who are making a choice...one to read an inference that doesn't exist.

4) But, oddly, in interviews around the time of the '02 tour, and in other more recent ones, the band members have talked about how much the album has changed since the begining.  Witness Rhiad and Silkworms, and the uncertainty of a final tracklist.  Of course the early music still "exists".  They're not going to completely throw out recorded material. 


Here we go again! I guess you're off the point there. Voodoo clealy states that what he thinks to be mostly unchanged is "the MAIN CONCEPT of the album". Not the details.

5) Again, "same song" in what sense?  Musically and lyrically? Probably.  But the arrangement (witness all the different ways GnR has played KOHD and the BIG difference in the way that track sounds just during live performances), mixing, and production are going to go a LONG way toward influencing what the final product of that material is. Madagascar is a great example. During the '02 tour, it was pretty "orchestral" in it's arrangement.  Take that same song and make it a guitar driven ballad (ala SCOM....and no, I'm not suggesting this has been done) and, while the musical structure stays the same, the "sound" of the song changes drastically.
Unsure of what voodoo meant there
but I believe Song writing is the most basic and critical point. It is the body, the idea/motif perhaps being the mind.
On the other hand arrangement, mixing and production are like clothing, hairstyling and cosmetics and although crucial to the song's/album's relevant appeal, can go dated fast no matter how nicely done. 
These can be changed into the latest fashion anytime. 

Some people don't like Beatles or any classic song because it sounds pass?. Some might like the dated sounds for nostalgia for the good old days or for their youth. But great many people in the world like Beatles songs despite the outdated style, because of the strong tunes and the great sentiments in the words. That's the main reason they still keep getting new fans every minute.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 02, 2006, 03:08:44 PM


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Bucket and Brain aren't tight musically????-have you ever seen them play together?? They are as tight as it gets.
yeah...  bucket was tight with brain....... : ok:  but neither of the other guys was tight with him.....

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Richard and Tommy are best friends and have done multiple projects together-very similar in feel and style-a great rhythm section. They are very tight. Two distinct camps but there were distinct "camps" in the old Gnr as well
basically there were to "camps" in '01/'02: buckethead (and brain...)  and the rest of gnr...........well you could put axl and chriss  in their own camp, too :hihi:


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Just admit that none of you really know what your talking about when it comes to band chemsitry. You haven't toured with these guys and you certainly weren't around from 1998 to early 2003 when they did a MASSIVE amount of recording and rehearsing.


 :rofl: :rofl: haha   ridiculous       i suppose you were around all the time right?? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

just admit that you`re axl rose : ok: :hihi:

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They may not be tight musically today because they haven't all seen each other in 3 years. Skilled professionals will pick the chemistry back up very quickly once the ball starts rolling. And make no doubt about it, Axl has a group of "skilled" professionals. :beer:

yeah right : ok:  i agree with you on this     actually my point , too.....


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As a matter of fact, Axl may be the weak link and unable to keep up with the monstrosity that he let loose in the studio from 1998 to 2003. Ever consider that? I do. ;D


 :rofl:      yeah    axl sucks!!     besides i come to see gnr for chriss pittman, so i don`t care...


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I'm sure they will be as good or better than 2002 when we see them again ok (if we see them again nervous that's what makes me sad about the whole situation, we may never see GnR tour again Cry )

i agree....    except for the last part      we`ll see them again....it`s just a matter of time








Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 02, 2006, 03:35:40 PM
Bucket and Brain aren't tight musically????-have you ever seen them play together?? They are as tight as it gets. Richard and Tommy are best friends and have done multiple projects together-very similar in feel and style-a great rhythm section. They are very tight. Two distinct camps but there were distinct "camps" in the old Gnr as well. Just admit that none of you really know what your talking about when it comes to band chemsitry. You haven't toured with these guys and you certainly weren't around from 1998 to early 2003 when they did a MASSIVE amount of recording and rehearsing. They may not be tight musically today because they haven't all seen each other in 3 years. Skilled professionals will pick the chemistry back up very quickly once the ball starts rolling. And make no doubt about it, Axl has a group of "skilled" professionals. :beer: As a matter of fact, Axl may be the weak link and unable to keep up with the monstrosity that he let loose in the studio from 1998 to 2003. Ever consider that? I do. ;D
Yep.
Everyone loves the weakest link the best. There's an old saying that the slowest kid gets the most affection. :yes:

Anyways,  I wonder how he get to hear the songs Brain had last year.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 02, 2006, 04:19:22 PM

Oh Really? don't you think the following post sounds otherwise? That's why I thought I might have missed the latest update.


Nope, don't think it sounds otherwise at all...mostly because talking about "Queen-like" arrangements in '06 has nothing to do with whether May played with GnR 7 years ago (and who may, or may not, still have parts on the album), nor whether the tracklisting is eclectic.? Again, drawing conclusions and inferences where none are explicitly (or implicitly) made..? The only conclusion you could probably draw is that, as Axl himself has said, he's influenced by Queen.? ?

Arrangements are not music/instrumentals.? Track listings are not arrangements.? Mentioning Queen and/or Brian May does not automatically link statements made 7 years apart.

Maybe the disconnect we're having here is one of language?? "The sound is much like Queen" wasn't meant as "the album sounds like queen".? ?It was meant more as "Axl has arranged/mixed/produced some songs in a similar manner to songs Queen has arranged/mixed/produced".? In the Music Industry, a bands "sound" is, usually, the way their particular music is arranged, mixed, and produced.? That's what I meant by "sound"....not that it literally meant the two entities would sound (as in, have similar tonality or musical structure) alike. Does that make more sense?

And to be clear, I'm not trying to "talk down" to you in explaining what I meant.  I just know we have a pretty wide range, geographically, of members here at HTGTH and I'm never sure who's primary language is English, and who isn't, or who's terminology is as inclusive of who's.  I just want to ensure that our difference of opinon isn't purely based on a symantic or language  thing....

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Here we go again! I guess you're off the point there. Voodoo clealy states that what he thinks to be mostly unchanged is "the MAIN CONCEPT of the album". Not the details.


Actually, voodoo was the one "off point", but, be that as it may, changing the details does change "the main concept" (whatever that is).? Maybe subtley, but changes them all the same.?

And the point was that the changes I cited were to point out that LOTS changes in 7 years...so using a 7 year old interview that contains information that may, or may not, be true at this time isn't the best thing to prop your opinion up with.? Especially considering a good chunk of the info in the interview has already been proven to have changed.


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Unsure of what voodoo meant there
but I believe Song writing is the most basic and critical point. It is the body, the idea/motif perhaps being the mind.
On the other hand arrangement, mixing and production are like clothing, hairstyling and cosmetics and although crucial to the song's/album's relevant appeal, can go dated fast no matter how nicely done.?
These can be changed into the latest fashion anytime.?

Some people don't like Beatles or any classic song because it sounds pass?. Some might like the dated sounds for nostalgia for the good old days or for their youth. But great many people in the world like Beatles songs despite the outdated style, because of the strong tunes and the great sentiments in the words. That's the main reason they still keep getting new fans every minute.

I understand the analogy, and it's an apt one....but a bit understated.

You mention the Beatles.? Seriously, listen to Let it Be, and Let it Be Naked.? Listsen to how vastly different the songs sound.? If you can then honestly say that production, mix, and arrangement don't have a profound effect on material, to the point of great influence on artistic presentation, after listening to those two albums....we'll all know you have a tin ear.? A good song, despite Dizzy's assertions, can be destroyed by bad arrangement/production/mix, while a mediocre one can be made good with great arrangement/production/mix.? It is a VERY important piece of the process.? To not have the rest of the band involved (and, honestly, from interviews, etc, it seems they have not been) in that process means the album creation was not really collaborative.?

Again, was the music writing collaborative? Yes, so it seems.? But the album creation process certainly has not, by all evidence, been (and certainly not in "the spirit of AFD" where the entire album was shaped by the entire band).? And the final "sound" of the album will be, by all reports, 100% Axl's creation.? For good or bad...? I tend to think for good, given what we've seen from him in the past.? Other opinions may differ, obviously.

And again, whether it's collaborative or not seems to matter less than whether the material is any good once it's released.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 02, 2006, 04:53:11 PM
Tommy alluded to that production issue in his recent interview. Basically saying there has been some poor production over the years. In all honesty, that is probably what has caused the delay. Not the songs themselves, but the final production of the songs has obviously not pleased Axl. :peace: Dizzy alluded to multiple versions and mixes of songs as well. Axl keeps searching.....and searching.....for the right mix.....right to him at least! :confused:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 02, 2006, 08:23:53 PM
Nope, don't think it sounds otherwise at all..

"The sound is much like Queen" wasn't meant as "the album sounds like queen".   It was meant more as "Axl has arranged/mixed/produced some songs in a similar manner to songs Queen has arranged/mixed/produced". 

Sorry but I cannot read such a meaning from the context. You seemed to be referring to it as a big change. 
If not, how does the thought run in this post?

"Not for nothing but....do you REALLY wanna use an interview from 1999?  I mean..really?

'Cause if you read the entire interview, much of what he says in it has changed.  And, most recently, he said (serious or not, we don't know) the sound is much like "Queen". "


In the Music Industry, a bands "sound" is, usually, the way their particular music is arranged, mixed, and produced.  That's what I meant by "sound"....not that it literally meant the two entities would sound (as in, have similar tonality or musical structure) alike. Does that make more sense?

And to be clear, I'm not trying to "talk down" to you in explaining what I meant.  I just know we have a pretty wide range, geographically, of members here at HTGTH and I'm never sure who's primary language is English, and who isn't, or who's terminology is as inclusive of who's.  I just want to ensure that our difference of opinon isn't purely based on a symantic or language  thing....

I guess not IN exlaining what you meant.
Don't worry
we all speak English. As a matter of course some can't write, some can't read... :hihi:
I know what the word "sound" means and I guess voodoo knows those terms damn well.

Let's go back to Axl's recent comments.

"It's a very complex record,"
"I'm trying to do something different.
Some of the arrangements are kind of like Queen.
Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'"
"But you'll like at least a few songs on there."

Don't you really think these two sentences very different? 
"SOME OF THE ARRENGEMENTS are KIND OF like queen"
"the sound is much like "Queen"" 

I think the queen reference was Just an example of the variety and the complexity of the album. Not because of the old article. "some of" always imply there are more things different than these particular some. When you hear the word "but" you expect the subsequent sentence to have more weight than the preceding one(s).


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Here we go again! I guess you're off the point there. Voodoo clealy states that what he thinks to be mostly unchanged is "the MAIN CONCEPT of the album". Not the details.


Actually, voodoo was the one "off point", but, be that as it may, changing the details does change "the main concept" (whatever that is).  Maybe subtley, but changes them all the same.

And the point was that the changes I cited were to point out that LOTS changes in 7 years...so using a 7 year old interview that contains information that may, or may not, be true at this time isn't the best thing to prop your opinion up with.  Especially considering a good chunk of the info in the interview has already been proven to have changed.


I understand That is YOUR point. Not voodoo's or mine.
What I've been saying from the start is that I gather from the latest interview that the basic ideas of the album Axl had in 1999 remain mostly the same, save that perhaps they are more concrete and developed now.

As I said, (C& paste job again)

In 1999 he described the album as a melting pot. He referred to Queen concerning the diversity.

In 2006 he describes it as very complex and different.

It's SOME OF the arrangements that are said to have resemblance to queen and NOT the whole album. probably we'll see a dramatic/operatic touch of the queen type on some of the songs. I assume the mention was again an example in regard to the variety for which everyone will find "at least a few" their own fav songs there.


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Unsure of what voodoo meant there
but I believe Song writing is the most basic and critical point. It is the body, the idea/motif perhaps being the mind.
On the other hand arrangement, mixing and production are like clothing, hairstyling and cosmetics and although crucial to the song's/album's relevant appeal, can go dated fast no matter how nicely done. 
These can be changed into the latest fashion anytime. 

Some people don't like Beatles or any classic song because it sounds pass?. Some might like the dated sounds for nostalgia for the good old days or for their youth. But great many people in the world like Beatles songs despite the outdated style, because of the strong tunes and the great sentiments in the words. That's the main reason they still keep getting new fans every minute.


I understand the analogy, and it's an apt one....but a bit understated.

You mention the Beatles.  Seriously, listen to Let it Be, and Let it Be Naked.  Listsen to how vastly different the songs sound.  If you can then honestly say that production, mix, and arrangement don't have a profound effect on material, to the point of great influence on artistic presentation, after listening to those two albums....we'll all know you have a tin ear.


No need. If you read my post, you'd know I'm not making light of those works.
Or you're a rock magazine reader! :P
I'd say they have big effects on the lisners ears. Profound or not they do.
Those better be up to date. Hence, the finishing touches continue till the last minute, IMO.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: GnR-NOW on February 02, 2006, 10:32:20 PM
has anyone every asked dizzy or any of the current members if there are studio recordings of the new songs they played during 2002 other then omg?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Neemo on February 02, 2006, 10:39:59 PM
has anyone every asked dizzy or any of the current members if there are studio recordings of the new songs they played during 2002 other then omg?

I think dizzy went on record at one point saying that each song had 4-6 different versions, so i would assume he meant all the songs slated for CD at that given point ('03 or '04)

I think it was Dizzy. You got that quote kickin' around ppbebe?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 02, 2006, 11:10:33 PM
has anyone every asked dizzy or any of the current members if there are studio recordings of the new songs they played during 2002 other then omg?
Well, they at least recorded tiny snippets of the songs for the Boston radio promo. Another good question to ask one of the band members is if they have done any work on the album since 2002.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Voodoochild on February 02, 2006, 11:36:44 PM
Ppbebe, I agree 100% with your post. I don't really have much more to say or I would be repeating stuff. : ok:

BTW, just one thing: from Let it Be and Let it Be naked we learn how the band were forced to put out some different work not meant to be that way. I don't think it's the case in Chinese Democracy.

Of course, the song Let it Be (both versions) are still the same song. If you hear Madagascar from Rio, it was pretty much the same arrangement. The mix was poor, the soundstage was bad and all the song seemed untight if you compare to 2002 versions. Still, it's basically the same arrangement, with just a little more guitar (thanks to Richard).

Changin' the song to be guitar driven would pretty much change the focus and the main arrangement, too much for compare. Like I said before, the main recording sessions were done between '99 and '02, as Tommy said, so it wouldn't make much sense if, from '02 to '06, the arrangements became that different. Or maybe Axl called sessions musicians to do the job, but if not, I can't see the point to not believe it's the same concept since '99-00.

Also, calling Brian May to do some work makes A LOT of sense if you want a Queen vibe. But hey, you can't accept some things didn't change, huh? Maybe the album has a new title too, because we can't take 7 years old articles as a point.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jazjme on February 02, 2006, 11:47:28 PM
very valid points voodoo

If you wanna disect, and bring out the  sterile gloves(so to speak), ..............

Why is it so hard for some to actually believe that alot of shit has transpired, unfortunate as it may seem for us the fans, not to be privy to all. Why does day turn to night, why does warm turn to cold...I could go on..my point is... as alot of you , Ive beem here many yrs..


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Warren on February 03, 2006, 12:48:35 AM
This is basically a ghost band. It seems that Axl is still hesitating about getting involved with the new guys.

(No official pics in 8 years)


It doesn't mean CD will be a bad record.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 03, 2006, 08:38:34 AM
James, my point about Axl not being able to keep up was that maybe Axl has been unable to write enough quality lyrics and put together enough quality melodies to match what he did with the old band. That is not far fetched at all. He had Izzy as a crutch back then. Consider the fact that he is the sole lyric writer-as he states. Tommy is a very good writer (lyric wise) so I hope he has bounced ideas off of him. However, there is no evidence that he has. Axl may be the type that is more quality driven then quantity driven. He may only have a few "bursts" of genius then he dries up for awhile. It is a distinct possibility..NOT SAYING IT IS TRUE...but could play a part in it. ;) Couple that with the mountain of evidence that says vocals were hardly ever layed down (for long periods of time) and you have a compelling argument. :beer:You are simply ASSUMING that the bands material isn't good. They did their job 3-4 years ago-done. Axl is the reason we don't have a cd. If he didn't like the material, don't you think he would have dropped those guys a long time ago? Hmmmmm, makes you think.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2006, 10:47:30 AM

Changin' the song to be guitar driven would pretty much change the focus and the main arrangement, too much for compare. Like I said before, the main recording sessions were done between '99 and '02, as Tommy said, so it wouldn't make much sense if, from '02 to '06, the arrangements became that different. Or maybe Axl called sessions musicians to do the job, but if not, I can't see the point to not believe it's the same concept since '99-00.


Oh, for sure I can accept some things haven't changed.  The issue is that so much HAS changed, and the time period covered is so extensive, that we have no earthly idea what has and what has not changed.  Depending on a 7 year old article, much of which has been show to have changed, as your "source" isn't the most solid position to take.  It just isn't.  If your opinion is "See, he said it, and IMHO, it hasn't changed" but, in the same article, multiple things that HAVE changed can be pointed out...it's just not a compellingly solid opinion.  You are, of course, welcome to it.

And one final point, since I think we've all made our opinions known and are now just chaising our own tails: You don't have to re-record butkiss to change the arrangement of a song.  Bring the guitar forward, strip out the orchestral elements, tone down the keyboards (yes, I'm oversimplifying just a bit), and you've completely changed the arrangement of the song.  You can use the same tracks layed down originally.

And we know that the band members HAVE returned, from time to time, to do more recording. They've said so themselves...mostly the guitar parts (which would make sense).


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2006, 11:09:26 AM

Sorry but I cannot read such a meaning from the context. You seemed to be referring to it as a big change.?
If not, how does the thought run in this post?

"Not for nothing but....do you REALLY wanna use an interview from 1999?? I mean..really?

'Cause if you read the entire interview, much of what he says in it has changed.? And, most recently, he said (serious or not, we don't know) the sound is much like "Queen". "


Again, you're reading into, instead of reading.? I didn't say it was a big change.

In addition, if you read my original post again, the initial comment you keep dwelling on was made because I was not clear what you meant by "AFD spirit".? You can read the original post if you'd like to see that.? My comment on the sound being "much like queen" was in reference to your possilble meaning that you were referring to "AFD spirit" in the sense of the sound of the album.? And you must admit anything having "some arrangements that are like Queen" is pretty far from the sound of AFD.

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Don't you really think these two sentences very different??
"SOME OF THE ARRENGEMENTS are KIND OF like queen"
"the sound is much like "Queen""?

Not at all.? If you'd like, we can debate the semantics, though I'm not sure how productive that is.

? Some is more than a few, but less than most...semanticaly speaking, that would be between 4 and 6.? Pretty significant on a 13 track album.? Of course, that's playing semantic games and exacting Axl, but that seems to be the route you'd like to take in the discussion, so.....
? ?Notice, I also didn't say "much of the sound is like queen"....I said "the sound is much like Queen".? The much in reference to it's similarity, not in the amount of total material.

See, isn't that fun and productive?? ::)

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I think the queen reference was Just an example of the variety and the complexity of the album. Not because of the old article. "some of" always imply there are more things different than these particular some. When you hear the word "but" you expect the subsequent sentence to have more weight than the preceding one(s).

Again, semantics.? "But" only implies an exception to the previous statement.? It implies no weight of any kind.? He said what he meant.? No need to read into it to assign meaning.
 
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I understand That is YOUR point. Not voodoo's or mine.
What I've been saying from the start is that I gather from the latest interview that the basic ideas of the album Axl had in 1999 remain mostly the same, save that perhaps they are more concrete and developed now.

As I said, (C& paste job again)

In 1999 he described the album as a melting pot. He referred to Queen concerning the diversity.

In 2006 he describes it as very complex and different.

It's SOME OF the arrangements that are said to have resemblance to queen and NOT the whole album. probably we'll see a dramatic/operatic touch of the queen type on some of the songs. I assume the mention was again an example in regard to the variety for which everyone will find "at least a few" their own fav songs there.


Now you're off point.? We were talking about collaboration, remember?

And none of the above has anything to do with the fact the original interview has many details that HAVE changed.

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Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 03, 2006, 11:23:12 AM
has anyone every asked dizzy or any of the current members if there are studio recordings of the new songs they played during 2002 other then omg?

I think dizzy went on record at one point saying that each song had 4-6 different versions, so i would assume he meant all the songs slated for CD at that given point ('03 or '04)

I think it was Dizzy. You got that quote kickin' around ppbebe?

Aye. Not each song tho. "SOME". :hihi:
GNR-NOW, Tommy n Dizzy heard  "final" mixes in 2004.


Dan: Is the record set up as its going to be released?  Has it been decided what songs are going to be on it?
Dizzy: Pretty much. 

Dan: How long have those songs been around?
Dizzy: Some of them have been around for five or six years.  Others are fairly new.
Dan: The ones that have been around for a few years, have they changed a lot over the years?  Is that one of the things that holds up the release?
Dizzy: They change a little bit, yeah.  And as is the modern way, some of the songs have two or three different versions.  You know, remixes and what not.  There's so many great players in the band now and there are so many great parts that have been laid down now for all the songs, unfortunately its impossible to put them all on there.  The obvious thing would be to have a couple versions of each song.  I don't know if that's going to happen, but its definitely possible.  And I have heard several versions of some of the cooler songs, and they all sound great. All the players that have come in and out of this project are phenominal players.  So there's a lot of great stuff to choose from.  Its an unenviable task for whoever is going to mix it.  BUT THEY BETTER PUT MY SHIT IN THE MIX!

Dan: Its been like eleven years since the last album now, and everybody is still talking about it.  Can it possibly live up to the hype?
Dizzy: Yes.

Dan: Its that good, in your opinion?
Dizzy: In my opinion, absolutely.  I think it will actually exceed expectations.

Dan: It seems like the band was close before.  You went out and did a world tour, there was the MTV Awards, does it seem like you were closer than ever before, or does it seem like there were times when it was closer and now you have kind of taken a step back?
Dizzy: I think it feels closer now than it did then.

Dan: There was a song that leaked out to radio, I.R.S., is that definitely a GNR song?  As far as I know, nobody ever confirmed it.  Is that one of the songs?
Dizzy: Yes.  Its a good song.


Dizzy interview 6/3/2004 (http://dutchdemocracy.club-x.nl/forum/Printpage.php?board=2;threadid=5797)

This interview serves as a good reference. to check with the recent one of the thread topic or the axl comments.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 03, 2006, 12:31:02 PM
anything having "some arrangements that are like Queen" is pretty far from the sound of AFD.

And far from UYI
"Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" :hihi:
'cause SOME ppl only see how it SOUNDS and how it looks.
None are so blind as those who will not see.


Again, semantics.  "But" only implies an exception to the previous statement.  It implies no weight of any kind.  He said what he meant.  No need to read into it to assign meaning.

I strongly disagree. Especially in this case.
I don't see the sematics. I read just as it is. And in my book "much" is not synonymic for "kind of" .

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What I've been saying from the start is that I gather from the latest interview that the basic ideas of the album Axl had in 1999 remain mostly the same, save that perhaps they are more concrete and developed now.

As I said, (C& paste job again)

In 1999 he described the album as a melting pot. He referred to Queen concerning the diversity.

In 2006 he describes it as very complex and different.

It's SOME OF the arrangements that are said to have resemblance to queen and NOT the whole album. probably we'll see a dramatic/operatic touch of the queen type on some of the songs. I assume the mention was again an example in regard to the variety for which everyone will find "at least a few" their own fav songs there.


Now you're off point.  We were talking about collaboration, remember?

And none of the above has anything to do with the fact the original interview has many details that HAVE changed.

It has something to do with the fact the recent interview doesn't contradict what he said in 1999.
I'm not talking about the details of the album. 
The GNR spirit seen in AFD is what Axl talked about in the 1999 article. That implys diversity and the collaboration. I may post the bit later.
somehow I don't see it worth tho. as you're not willing to speak the same language.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 03, 2006, 12:44:40 PM
lost in translation...literally :rofl: Two heavyweights going toe to toe......let's call it a draw. :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2006, 12:58:38 PM
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And far from UYI
"Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" :hihi:
'cause SOME ppl only see how it SOUNDS and how it looks.
None are so blind as those who will not see.

No, probably closer to UYI than AFD, actually.

I hate to break it to you but music is an auditory experience. ?How it sounds defines it. ?

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I strongly disagree. Especially in this case.
I don't see the sematics. I read just as it is. And in my book "much" is not synonymic for "kind of" .

Then you disagree with the definition of the word:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=but

If someone says to me "yeah, they're kinda like GnR", in a casual conversation, yes...I think that would translate, in a more formal way, into "they sound much like GnR". ?If you want to argue I'm interpreting his phrasing incorrectly, I can certainly see that opinion. ?I disagree with it, but can see it.

And again, you're leading the discussion to semantics. ?I can only assume you're doing so because you have no other way to bolster your argument.

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It has something to do with the fact the recent interview doesn't contradict what he said in 1999.
I'm not talking about the details of the album.?
The GNR spirit seen in AFD is what Axl talked about in the 1999 article. That implys diversity and the collaboration. I may post the bit later.
somehow I don't see it worth tho. as you're not willing to speak the same language.

So you'll pick and choose what's changed and what hasn't? ?What's still true and what isn't? Based on what? Your opinion? ? Sorry, not compelling enough for me. ?You've pointed out ONE thing that hasn't changed (maybe)...and it's not anything that supports your argument that the album creation process is collaborative. ?I'm not saying EVERYTHING in the '99 interview is incorrect. ?I'm saying, in light of the fact we have information that SOME of that stuff has changed, and no way of knowing, for sure, what has and what hasn't, short of other corroborating evidence, bolstering your opinion with that article as evidence is not the firmest position to take. It's true. ?Whether you like it or not.

16 Tracks? Or 13 tracks? Freeze, May and Huge? Or ?Not? ?There's too much evidence, in subsequent articles and interviews, that things have changed to ASSUME which parts have and which parts have not.

And from the interview you posted in '04:

Dizzy: Some of them have been around for five or six years. ?Others are fairly new.

Didn't you say that some has to be less than most?

Again, we're talking about collaboration. ?A subject which other Gunners interviews cover in discussing their lack of knowledge about the current state of the material. ?You "source" is a 1999 article. ?The contrary evidence exists in interviews/articles from '03 to '06. ?It's not a great source to use to bolster your opinion.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2006, 01:04:09 PM
lost in translation...literally :rofl: Two heavyweights going toe to toe......let's call it a draw. :beer:

Yeah, I feel like we're both chasing our tails at this point.

I'm done.  I think I've made my points.

I'll let Ali have the last word.

(Frasier has left the building)  :hihi:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 03, 2006, 01:05:52 PM
lost in translation...literally :rofl: Two heavyweights going toe to toe......let's call it a draw. :beer:

Yeah it's boring, nay?  But Excuse me, >:(  I weight only about 110 pounds.  :P


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 03, 2006, 01:12:17 PM
Good reading.......interesting....but I'm not sure you understood everything Pilferk was saying.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 03, 2006, 01:46:22 PM
Well maybe 'course your of the opinion that this is an Axl rose one man show?
I'm quite sure Pilferk doesn't understand half of what I'm saying.

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And far from UYI
"Some people are going to say, 'It doesn't sound like Axl Rose, it doesn't sound like Guns n' Roses.'" :hihi:
'cause SOME ppl only see how it SOUNDS and how it looks.
None are so blind as those who will not see.

No, probably closer to UYI than AFD, actually.


I don't think so. Maybe to you Rolling stones sounds similar to Queen.


I hate to break it to you but music is an auditory experience.  How it sounds defines it. 


Music is.  A Band is not.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: madagas on February 03, 2006, 01:54:17 PM
Slow down Tank...I am not taking sides. You both don't understand exactly what the other is saying and you are both right in your own way. That is obvious.  ::) I'm not going down the solo act argument. I like the new band and how it is arranged currently. That is all that matters. I don't want anything to do with "Yesterdays". : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 03, 2006, 02:08:02 PM
Aye madagas but I can't be slower than I am now. :'(

Then you disagree with the definition of the word:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=but

If someone says to me "yeah, they're kinda like GnR", in a casual conversation, yes...I think that would translate, in a more formal way, into "they sound much like GnR".  If you want to argue I'm interpreting his phrasing incorrectly, I can certainly see that opinion.  I disagree with it, but can see it.

And again, you're leading the discussion to semantics.  I can only assume you're doing so because you have no other way to bolster your argument.

What's my argument? Can't you see what I'm doing here is by and large paraphrasing the band members words or quoting them like a bloody mirror.  Nothing personal but to me it seems that you keep ignoring whatever that doesn't support your Position as if it's priority over the band members ones for real.
At least I don't put words into other's mouths.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: WARose on February 03, 2006, 02:41:22 PM
Slow down Tank...I am not taking sides. You both don't understand exactly what the other is saying and you are both right in your own way. That is obvious.  ::) I'm not going down the solo act argument. I like the new band and how it is arranged currently. That is all that matters. I don't want anything to do with "Yesterdays". : ok:

Yeah i agree with that........hopefully wel`ll see the work they did at one point : ok:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on February 03, 2006, 03:29:47 PM
And lastly about the collaborative lavel of AFD,  from what I can gather Axl had the last say on like everything even in the AFD days and has been in charge ever since. Surely I wasn't there unlike some of you here tho.   ;)
That doesn't make the band a less collaborative one or a solo project of the leader.
The same is true with the most of successful bands.

Dizzy you know- Axl is very much into having a band. and he's one of the fairest, coolest, nicest guys that I've ever met... and that's just a fact.  And I mean he treats us as band members but at the same time with any situation like that... there's always one person that's more important and you know is in charge and you have to know whose in charge. In every band, in every successful band, has a leader... he's the leader.

What would you honestly expect Tommy or Dizzy to say?

We were there strictly for the writing and constructing of the songs, but after all the music Axl thought he needed was on tape, he gave us the order to go out and do solo schlock shows indefinately?

The interviewer would immediately fire back with some question like, "So this really is an Axl solo record if he's doing the rest of the work by himself."
It looks better on the band and the members as a whole if they make it sound like there very much up to date with the record, and in the loop. Or else its just bollocks to say, "Yeah Ive been in Gn'R for 8 years with no album to show for it. Still waiting on Round 2 perhaps.."

Yea. And on the contrary he could also say he made a habit of emailing all the members everyday and hanging out and jamming with them whenever they were around if he wanted. If asked the details he could always use the almighty 'confidential' thingy but he doesn't.

I don't think being tight is always a good thing...That may cause the chemistry to burn itself out fast. 
Being a loose unit each musician can get  fresh air, ideas and spurs from the outside world.
Often flexible things have more strength than rigid things. They can stand tight and loose without breaking up.

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If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02,

 :o Yes of course! You just lightened me up. silly me I never thought of that. Maybe a turn of events have happened. He says 2002 lineup is the best. :headbanger: Who knows.
Beside in 2004 he said....

Dan: Is Buckethead out?  Is that official?
Dizzy: For the time being, yeah.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: pilferk on February 03, 2006, 03:48:19 PM


What's my argument? Can't you see what I'm doing here is by and large paraphrasing the band members words or quoting them like a bloody mirror.? Nothing personal but to me it seems that you keep ignoring whatever that doesn't support your Position as if it's priority over the band members ones for real.
At least I don't put words into other's mouths.

My last word on this this time, I promise.

And I feel you are doing the same...ignoring more recent statements and picking and choosing the passages you want to incorporate and ignoring the others, "interepreting" passages when no interpretation is needed, and continuing to fall back on an interview thats 7 years old and has demonstrable details that are no longer true.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

As for putting words in people's mouths...perhaps you should re-read your posts from some pages back.? You do just that.

Oh, and if you don't think UYI has some "queen-like" arrangements (again, that's what we're talking about here)....you need to listen to more Queen.? Your one statement on the subject says all it needs to about your musical judgement.? Do you really need examples?

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And lastly about the collaborative lavel of AFD,? from what I can gather Axl had the last say on like everything even in the AFD days and has been in charge ever since.

Really?? From what you can put together?? I'd love to read those quotes.? Because it's certainly not what I've read from Izzy, Slash, Duff, and Steven.? Nor from any of the reasonable accounts of the history of the band (ie: all those "unofficial" bios, media articles, etc) circa the AFD era.? The UYI era? Absolutely true.

Thanks and good day.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Deez Nuts on March 09, 2006, 08:18:12 PM
So it's been six weeks since this whole crazy ordeal.? Did Maddy88's made up story ever become true?? Was it that Slash was going to have another meeting with Axl that was the big event?? Was it discussion on how they were going to leak a few tracks to stir up attention?? Announcement of the tour dates?? Axl's car for sale?? Axl buying another neon pegasus sign?? Chris Pittman being plugged in on the next tour?? What was the supposed 'big event'?????????

Or was it that someone got some pictures with Dizzy which proved he was with him, then took it one step farther and proceeded to get drunk at a frat and invent some close revealing secret that Dizzy told him, meanwhile garnering attention on gnr forums?

I think James and a few others of the minority in this thread that questioned the legitimacy of this interview, particularily the tight-lipped secret, deserve props because nothing has been proven of this 'event' yet.? Surely we could know now, six weeks later, if the 'big event' took place and what it was about.?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: jameslofton29 on March 09, 2006, 08:23:23 PM
So it's been six weeks since this whole crazy ordeal.? Did Maddy88's made up story ever become true?
No. It will never come true, because its bullshit.
I think James and a few others of the minority in this thread that questioned the legitimacy of this interview, particularily the tight-lipped secret, deserve props because nothing has been proven of this 'event' yet. 
Thanks. :beer: I can smell a fake insider from a light year away. The jokers in this thread were easy to discredit.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on March 09, 2006, 09:53:59 PM
So it's been six weeks since this whole crazy ordeal.? Did Maddy88's made up story ever become true?? Was it that Slash was going to have another meeting with Axl that was the big event?? Was it discussion on how they were going to leak a few tracks to stir up attention?? Announcement of the tour dates?? Axl's car for sale?? Axl buying another neon pegasus sign?? Chris Pittman being plugged in on the next tour?? What was the supposed 'big event'?????????

Or was it that someone got some pictures with Dizzy which proved he was with him, then took it one step farther and proceeded to get drunk at a frat and invent some close revealing secret that Dizzy told him, meanwhile garnering attention on gnr forums?

I think James and a few others of the minority in this thread that questioned the legitimacy of this interview, particularily the tight-lipped secret, deserve props because nothing has been proven of this 'event' yet.? Surely we could know now, six weeks later, if the 'big event' took place and what it was about.?

coz he was full of shit... he even admitted lying....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: newgnr on March 09, 2006, 10:36:04 PM
Dizzy Reed is a fool.  How can somebody in a band know SO LITTLE about the status of their album? I mean thats insane.  Plus, how can he say that the new band is a better band than the old GNR?  Without the originals there would be no new gnr and no Dizzy Reed...he would be a nobody.  To be honest, i've never been a big fan of Dizzy.

On the positive side of things...nice interview man.  It's just too bad Dizzy doesn't know anything.  [I bet he's just lying tho....]


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: misterID on March 09, 2006, 10:40:04 PM
Yeah, it would be a nice interview if it were real


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Madagascar88 on March 10, 2006, 01:29:12 PM
jesus... I thought I had already proved my legitimacy to everyone!?


all right... that event I spoke of was that Dizzy Reed while at Cornell Univ. got a text message from Axl asking him to meet up with Axl for dinner as soon as he was back in LA. This was a big event for Dizzy had not seen Axl in quite some time. When I asked Dizzy if this would be about the release of Chinese Democracy... Dizzy responded that this was very likely.

that was the event. it occurred I believe the wednesday after he left Cornell (in late January).


as for the other controversial issue... Dizzy saying that the managers for Slash/Duff have been contacting Axl for a reunion.... I retracted this briefly because I thought Dizzy might've found out I posted this online (it was a private conversation) and was mad at me... however, when he finally did email me back saying that this was not the case, I re-retracted the statement. It is indeed the truth that VR band members have been looking for a reunion for a G'n'R reunion for some time now. I stand by this truthfully.? I mean come on, Axl's claim that Slash showed up at this door seems much more legit keeping in mind what Dizzy said, doesnt it?

lastly, the email i posted online (from Dizzy) saying that "there'd be enough info on the internet for everyone soon" came true did it not?


everything I wrote in the interview came straight from Mr. Reed... and in my honest opinion, not one bit of it was exaggerated.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on March 10, 2006, 01:38:08 PM
as for the other controversial issue... Dizzy saying that the managers for Slash/Duff have been contacting Axl for a reunion.... I retracted this briefly because I thought Dizzy might've found out I posted this online (it was a private conversation) and was mad at me... however, when he finally did email me back saying that this was not the case, I re-retracted the statement. It is indeed the truth that VR band members have been looking for a reunion for a G'n'R reunion for some time now. I stand by this truthfully.  I mean come on, Axl's claim that Slash showed up at this door seems much more legit keeping in mind what Dizzy said, doesnt it?

Yep good job. Now you should put the retracted bit back. That corresponds to Axl's release.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: ppbebe on March 10, 2006, 03:25:48 PM

And I feel you are doing the same...ignoring more recent statements and picking and choosing the passages you want to incorporate and ignoring the others, "interepreting" passages when no interpretation is needed, and continuing to fall back on an interview thats 7 years old and has demonstrable details that are no longer true.

Pot. Kettle. Black

Whatever. My pot is gold.
I'm noway ignoring any recent statement. You're ignoring the info from other band members.
As for the interpretation, Maybe you're too lazy.

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As for putting words in people's mouths...perhaps you should re-read your posts from some pages back.  You do just that.

Nay.

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Oh, and if you don't think UYI has some "queen-like" arrangements (again, that's what we're talking about here)....you need to listen to more Queen.  Your one statement on the subject says all it needs to about your musical judgement.  Do you really need examples?

Where did I say there is none? I tend to avoid a categoric answer.
That doesn't make the whole album sound like queen.  Actually UYI has more Stones-ish tunes than queens.

BTW I had enough of queen songs before I can write. Thank you very much.

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And lastly about the collaborative lavel of AFD,  from what I can gather Axl had the last say on like everything even in the AFD days and has been in charge ever since.

Really?  From what you can put together?  I'd love to read those quotes.  Because it's certainly not what I've read from Izzy, Slash, Duff, and Steven.  Nor from any of the reasonable accounts of the history of the band (ie: all those "unofficial" bios, media articles, etc) circa the AFD era.

S n D....media articles Yeah. ::) Polly Axl didn't even write vocal melodies or Lyrics.
Who picked SCOM for the first single for instanse?Axl. Did the other guys like the song? What bout OIM?
On the other hand, do we hear GNR had done anything Axl was reluctant to circa the ERA?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: leesixxrose on March 11, 2006, 12:26:08 AM
jesus... I thought I had already proved my legitimacy to everyone!?


all right... that event I spoke of was that Dizzy Reed while at Cornell Univ. got a text message from Axl asking him to meet up with Axl for dinner as soon as he was back in LA. This was a big event for Dizzy had not seen Axl in quite some time. When I asked Dizzy if this would be about the release of Chinese Democracy... Dizzy responded that this was very likely.

that was the event. it occurred I believe the wednesday after he left Cornell (in late January).


as for the other controversial issue... Dizzy saying that the managers for Slash/Duff have been contacting Axl for a reunion.... I retracted this briefly because I thought Dizzy might've found out I posted this online (it was a private conversation) and was mad at me... however, when he finally did email me back saying that this was not the case, I re-retracted the statement. It is indeed the truth that VR band members have been looking for a reunion for a G'n'R reunion for some time now. I stand by this truthfully.? I mean come on, Axl's claim that Slash showed up at this door seems much more legit keeping in mind what Dizzy said, doesnt it?

lastly, the email i posted online (from Dizzy) saying that "there'd be enough info on the internet for everyone soon" came true did it not?


everything I wrote in the interview came straight from Mr. Reed... and in my honest opinion, not one bit of it was exaggerated.

lol... what ever dude..... even dizzys wife said you were full of it....


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: oneway23 on March 11, 2006, 12:40:26 AM
jesus... I thought I had already proved my legitimacy to everyone!?


all right... that event I spoke of was that Dizzy Reed while at Cornell Univ. got a text message from Axl asking him to meet up with Axl for dinner as soon as he was back in LA. This was a big event for Dizzy had not seen Axl in quite some time. When I asked Dizzy if this would be about the release of Chinese Democracy... Dizzy responded that this was very likely.

that was the event. it occurred I believe the wednesday after he left Cornell (in late January).


as for the other controversial issue... Dizzy saying that the managers for Slash/Duff have been contacting Axl for a reunion.... I retracted this briefly because I thought Dizzy might've found out I posted this online (it was a private conversation) and was mad at me... however, when he finally did email me back saying that this was not the case, I re-retracted the statement. It is indeed the truth that VR band members have been looking for a reunion for a G'n'R reunion for some time now. I stand by this truthfully.  I mean come on, Axl's claim that Slash showed up at this door seems much more legit keeping in mind what Dizzy said, doesnt it?

lastly, the email i posted online (from Dizzy) saying that "there'd be enough info on the internet for everyone soon" came true did it not?


everything I wrote in the interview came straight from Mr. Reed... and in my honest opinion, not one bit of it was exaggerated.

Didn't you inform people shortly thereafter that you concocted the bit about the reunion just to stir fans up?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on March 11, 2006, 10:28:34 AM
Guys, arent you taking this TOO seriously?