Representative Foley turns out to be a secret card-carrying member of NAMBLA.

[Drew]

It is all wrong. But you didn't ask for my opinion. You asked for the right wing crown.

Now do you agree with me? Or is your silence self telling?

[HamsterDemocracy]

This has really become big news.

I think the guy should be locked away, the fact that he's now blaming his actions on childhood abuse is shameful on his behalf, almost as shameful as what he wrote to that boy.

[SLCPUNK]

It is all wrong. But you didn't ask for my opinion. You asked for the right wing crown.

Now do you agree with me? Or is your silence self telling?

Makes two of what?

What is your statement/question?

[SLCPUNK]

This has really become big news.

I think the guy should be locked away, the fact that he's now blaming his actions on childhood abuse is shameful on his behalf, almost as shameful as what he wrote to that boy.

This has blown up and is huge.

I saw (R) Scarborough on TV tonight talking about how the right are in a huge mess and said something along the lines of "hitting an iceberg" and "No recovery" at this point. He went on to say it will probably cause a landslide victory that we haven't seen for years this coming November.

[HamsterDemocracy]

This has really become big news.

I think the guy should be locked away, the fact that he's now blaming his actions on childhood abuse is shameful on his behalf, almost as shameful as what he wrote to that boy.

This has blown up and is huge.

I saw (R) Scarborough on TV tonight talking about how the right are in a huge mess and said something along the lines of "hitting an iceberg" and "No recovery" at this point. He went on to say it will probably cause a landslide victory that we haven't seen for years this coming November.

Yeah, this guy won't be winning any Republican friends for a while.

Did you see Fox News labeled Foley as a DEMOCRAT?!  It's on YouTube.

[SLCPUNK]

Yup I sure did. Speak volumes about the misinformation machine named Fox "News" doesn't it? And the fair and balanced nimrod Bill O'reilly too. What a true bunch of creeps.

Now an aide has come forward to claim that he told officials in Congress about Foley 3 years back (this just broke about 2-3 hours ago.) Some heads are getting ready to roll.

[HamsterDemocracy]

Yup I sure did. Speak volumes about the misinformation machine named Fox "News" doesn't it? And the fair and balanced nimrod Bill O'reilly too. What a true bunch of creeps.

Now an aide has come forward to claim that he told officials in Congress about Foley 3 years back (this just broke about 2-3 hours ago.) Some heads are getting ready to roll.

Would you vote for Clinton if she runs?

Frankly I'd vote for Bill but I never really liked Hilary, she seems to be a crowd-pleaser. I saw her give a speech to a group of Republicans saying how we need to go back to old-fashioned values, then she spoke to a crowd of Democrats and said the exact opposite more or less. She's a total politician which I don't like.

This should be an interesting election in the next couple years.

[Bill 213]

Is anyone any good at making computer graphics?  I want to get a Michael Jackson outline of like him moonwalking and grabbing his crotch and put the stars and stripes in it and make that the republican logo instead of the elephant.  That shit would rock all.

[SLCPUNK]

Is anyone any good at making computer graphics?  I want to get a Michael Jackson outline of like him moonwalking and grabbing his crotch and put the stars and stripes in it and make that the republican logo instead of the elephant.  That shit would rock all.

hahaha, crack me up.

I bet somebody here could do that for you..............

[Guns N RockMusic]

I want to see the right wing members of this board stand up and say this is wrong:

1) Wrong to cover up for a pedophile (congress)

2) Wrong for the right to attack the victims of child abuse (attack the messenger)

3) Wrong for their mouthpiece, AKA Fox news, to try and label? Foley a Democrat once he is caught trying to fuck little boys.


What a national disgrace this party is.? Neoncons working a smear job against the children who were targets of their in-house child molester. Absolutely despicable!

It is disgraceful for congress to cover up the acts of a pedophile.

It is dispicable to attack the victim of child abuse.

It's shameful and poor journalism for FOX to label Foley a Democrat.


However, it appears that none of those Foley was involved with were under eighteen years of age. ?I hope this doesn't turn out to be an attack on him because he's gay. ?Regardless, his actions were unprofessional and un-becoming of a member of congress. ?This is alone puts a stain on the GOP. ?However, I think it unfair for Democrats to label him as a pedophile for political reasons when it doesn't appear (at this time) that he engaged in homosexual activity with minors.

[Bud Fox]

So much for the idea this was an "October Surprise". Republicans now calling each other liars. Turns out it wasn't a surprise at all. All of them were warned years ago by Foley's own Chief of Staff about this child molester.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_co/congress_pages

However, I think it unfair for Democrats to label him as a pedophile for political reasons when it doesn't appear (at this time) that he engaged in homosexual activity with minors.

This guy sent emails asking 15 and 16 year old boys to engage in sex with him, because Bud Fox read the emails where he was doing exactly that and ABC News has proof they were written by him. It's called "attempted sexual assault of a minor" dumb ass.

[SLCPUNK]

It is disgraceful for congress to cover up the acts of a pedophile.

It is dispicable to attack the victim of child abuse.

It's shameful and poor journalism for FOX to label Foley a Democrat.

OK, thankyou.

[Guns N RockMusic]

So much for the idea this was an "October Surprise". Republicans now calling each other liars. Turns out it wasn't a surprise at all. All of them were warned years ago by Foley's own Chief of Staff about this child molester.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_co/congress_pages

However, I think it unfair for Democrats to label him as a pedophile for political reasons when it doesn't appear (at this time) that he engaged in homosexual activity with minors.

This guy sent emails asking 15 and 16 year old boys to engage in sex with him, because Bud Fox read the emails where he was doing exactly that and ABC News has proof they were written by him. It's called "attempted sexual assault of a minor" dumb ass.

First off, no need to insult me.  Secondly, if your claim is prooven true, and Foley tried to meet this kids to engage in sexual activity, then I agree, lock the bastard away.  However, Democrats blocked a bill that would make it illegal to create anime child porn.  So if Foley simply was engaging in cyber sex with people who played the roll of being 16, then there is a clear distinction there.  I can't in good faith judge a man for his sexual preference in his private life so long as he ins't hurting anyone.  However as I said earlier, if Foley (and it looks this way) was trying to make physical contact with minors, he should be quartered and hanged.

[Guns N RockMusic]

It is disgraceful for congress to cover up the acts of a pedophile.

It is dispicable to attack the victim of child abuse.

It's shameful and poor journalism for FOX to label Foley a Democrat.

OK, thankyou.

Your welcome.  As I've stated many times, I have no blind allegiance to any party or person.  I'm a libertarian whose been estranged from the Republican party since Bush and his Patrio act.

[jazjme]

IM finding this thread halarious, and maybe cause its just me, as I am not putting down arguments, either way, cause evryine has so far in my eyes, been pretty cool.

I will however tell a lil story of me, as a 16 yr old.


 As a kid I felt wierd, went into a porn shop with my best friend, at the time, (we felt like we snuck in), and tried to hide in the rows of porn tapes, happened I was in the gay porn sec, and it turned me on. I didnt know what it was really about.
it WAS WIERD, cause I as with a gf at the time, and had many in HS, anyway to the point, at one point I heard about a rest stop area, whre people could get a blow job, I was intrigued, and went, (rest stop), found out it was a crusing place, and well thats what i did, got a bj from some I would say 50 yur old, and was like ok. I liked it.

From then on though I voved I would never do that again with anyone, unless they were around my age . As I gotten older, I stil feel the same, but I also as a gay guy feel that I can be with someone younger than myself to a reasonable maturity and age .

So, its called boundries!.

What this guy is doin in criminal in so many ways. And the arguments back and forth hav been good. Phediphila, is not fuckng cool!

I did what I did on my own accord.

So it kinda pisses me off about this shit.

[The Dog]

So much for the idea this was an "October Surprise". Republicans now calling each other liars. Turns out it wasn't a surprise at all. All of them were warned years ago by Foley's own Chief of Staff about this child molester.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_go_co/congress_pages

However, I think it unfair for Democrats to label him as a pedophile for political reasons when it doesn't appear (at this time) that he engaged in homosexual activity with minors.

This guy sent emails asking 15 and 16 year old boys to engage in sex with him, because Bud Fox read the emails where he was doing exactly that and ABC News has proof they were written by him. It's called "attempted sexual assault of a minor" dumb ass.

First off, no need to insult me.  Secondly, if your claim is prooven true, and Foley tried to meet this kids to engage in sexual activity, then I agree, lock the bastard away.  However, Democrats blocked a bill that would make it illegal to create anime child porn.  So if Foley simply was engaging in cyber sex with people who played the roll of being 16, then there is a clear distinction there.  I can't in good faith judge a man for his sexual preference in his private life so long as he ins't hurting anyone.  However as I said earlier, if Foley (and it looks this way) was trying to make physical contact with minors, he should be quartered and hanged.

Meet them or not - its HIGHLY inappropriate behavior for an adult, a member of congress no less, to be talking to a page, a kid, working for his colleagues.  If have kids, would you want their school teachers telling them to send them pics and talking about other kids bodies?  Would you want your kids football coach to be having cyber sex with him??!?!  Stop trying to gloss this over.....its reprehensible action for an adult in that position.

Secondly, meet them or not, clearly members of the GOP knew about some communications YEARS ago and did nothing to stop it.

[Guns N RockMusic]

I agree Hanna, regardless of intent, his actions were extremely inappropriate and probably illegal.  He has no business being a congressman and I'm glad he's out.

[The Dog]

I agree Hanna, regardless of intent, his actions were extremely inappropriate and probably illegal.  He has no business being a congressman and I'm glad he's out.

I don't think the issue is agreeing if his actions were bad....I don't think many will support his actions.

How do you feel about the actions of Hastert and Shimkus though?  To me what they did (burying their heads in the sand) is worse.  Foley was a victim and everyone knows in cases of sexual/physical abuse the abuse can go on and on (not that it justifies it in ANY way).  Foleys "friends" did nothing to help him or the pages or any future pages Foley might have talked to or possibly met up with.

Do you think they should be out too?

[SLCPUNK]

Secondly, meet them or not, clearly members of the GOP knew about some communications YEARS ago and did nothing to stop it.

This is the final blow to the right wing???..a month away from the November elections.

[SLCPUNK]

Do you think they should be out too?

They are saying Hastert will be out by this time next week............