Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Official video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSSJIgSyoQo

June 14 edit by jarmo

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Prudential Series: 60 Minutes with Axl Rose

chinaexchangeuk
#PrudentialSeries #axlrose talking #music #performing at #soldout event @chinaexchangeuk tonight
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGXD9zlH_I9/

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Info:

Axl Rose, lead singer of Guns n? Roses and current guest vocalist on the AC/DC tour, has been an icon of rock since GnR first emerged in the mid-1980?s. His vocal talent ? mixing a distinctive falsetto with hard rock vocal traditions ? defined the bands first album, Appetite for Destruction, which at over 18 million copies sold, is the most popular debut album in US history. The record is regularly ranked by critics as one of the the greatest hard rock albums of all time.
When AC/DC?s Brian Johnson had to pull out of the band?s 2016 tour, Axl was invited to take his place. Performing with a broken foot, Axl has received excellent reviews for this 2016 pairing of rock legends.

http://chinaexchange.uk/whats-on/60-minutes-axl-rose/

About:

China Exchange was created by Sir David Tang who has the vision for a dynamic centre promoting excellence in Chinatown. Housed in the former BT Telephone Exchange and following an extensive renovation China Exchange serves as a home for ideas, discussion, and creative expression that stimulate greater understanding of and curiosity about China?s impact on the world.

Our ?60 Minutes with?? Prudential series features accomplished ? often very well-known ? guests selected by Sir David as speakers on the basis of their extraordinary lives and achievements. With a low ticket price, the events make excellence accessible in London and online and serve to attract people who may not otherwise visit London?s Chinatown or attend a China-related event.

http://chinaexchange.uk/about/

Wow! This was out of the blue, should be interesting!

They put up videos on their youtube page, keep a lookout.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJycHnbqeVCvgX-Ylo5dplQ/videos

Cool! I want video!

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Here's a bit from Axl's entrance

https://www.facebook.com/gnrlatinoamerica/videos/1082941665113134/

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By the looks of it they upload the video of the event a little over a week later. So maybe sometime late next week we'll see it.

Kinda weird seeing Axl in a "press conference" type of setting, although it's more of an interview.

Nice find!

Should be interesting. :)



/jarmo

Thanks for the info  : ok:

Seems like Axl is having a lot of fun at the event.  :)

Cast has come off it seems.

This is awesome.  Looking very forward to this.

Great find, santiago-gnr.  Good lookin' out.

I'm sure somebody who was there will give a "review" and paraphrase a little bit for us on one of the boards.

fucking awesome

So how did people find out about this??

So cool. Wonder how it came about??

It certainly went under the radar, we didn't hear about this until after the fact. Maybe the promotion was more prominent locally in London?

I'm in London...Perhaps it's for members?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGXFmZRObSK/?taken-by=howsgrachelle

A little clip

Nice.

Wish he showed this side of himself more.

Although I hope 'Coma' was not chair dependent.

If it was...wheel that bitch back out there for one song each night!

Wow I can't wait to see all of this.

Haha this!

if he does something like this in Manchester I'm gonna break my neck getting there. Be a dream to meet him. 2 days to go!! Seriously counting down the minutes.

Hopefully this means the code of silence for all parties is over too...

The one night the didn't do it, they swapped it out for TWAT.

I could roll with that too.

Just don't swap it out for, like...'Out Ta Get Me'.

Are Slash and Duff still in England?

An interview with the three of them would be cool. Promotion-wise it would probably make more sense to do something in the US at this time though.

On mygnr somebody said he discussed the possibility of new music with Slash and Angus.

These are bizarre and possibly amazing times  ;D

What was his response?

That he is hopeful to do both..something like that.

Sounds promising!

Not for Brian Johnson lol

I see it  as a possible collaboration with Angus on a song or two.

That's true... 😬

Even though I must admit an AC/DC record with Axl would have been a real trip, I still hope GN'R music is top priority. Axl and Slash together on new songs, you simply can't beat that.

Amen brother.

I'm very ready for GNR to be front n center again come June 23.

Here it is: the big question.

His answer is SO cool. Hope we will get to see more.
And it's also even cooler to see them all getting along, saying nice things about each other, having fun onstage, Slash and Duff supporting Axl with ACDC. I'm just so happy, can't believe this is really happening.

Axl is writing a book?

Ha, fun times. 

You never know what we will do next... Real life Q&A's. 

Hi Fernando,

Quick question.... i see a pic of a board member from mygnr and you ended up on their site with some information attributed to you about when guns maybe touring outside the US late 2016 and through 2017.

Specifically - That Guns would be down in Australia in January 2017?

Any truth to that?  ;) :D

edited to add - i dont actually expect you to confirm this question, but i had to try!  ;)

I hope we get the whole video of this interview session and someone who was there has given an account of the hour from the front seat.He even asked a question.

LOL @Oscar  You really are trying aren't you.  :rofl:   I met Team Brazil in 2013 and they were so nice & friendly. Fernando might see your question and give some answer even if he can't confirm it. Keep trying, us Aussies need pity being so far away from the rest of the world!!!  :yes:

 :D

hey, if you dont buy a ticket... you cant win can you? i had to at least try! hehe

It's funny, because there seems to be a lot more "news outlets" (and i use that term very loosely, because i cant think of what else to call them lol) monitoring the forums these days. So i fully understand if Fernando just laughs off my question... I kinda feel a bit sorry for him, if a fan has asked him a few questions in a hotel lobby and hes been honest enough to answer (and you kind of have proof of your meeting via a photo or whatever) its pretty ordinary form to announce it all over a message board which then gets picked up by these gossips sites and makes its way out to the stratosphere.

I hope the news is right though.... ill be lining up for tickets no matter what once/if they get down here.  :yes:

 

it makes sense that he would have his first interview at such an event considering the things he's said about china in the past. very smart to use the attention for a good cause he cares about and not give it to the press.

so from what i read, sounds like a european tour and new music with duff and slash is a strong probability. he also allegedly said slash made things up in his book, but that their current relationship is good and he appreciates slash's effort on the songs (cd stuff id assume?).

his favorite stuff to perform is the cd stuff. that's awesome.

supposedly mentioned that writing a book is a possibility but, something to the effect of it may open old wounds by telling his side of the story. overall i dont think he said anything overtly negative about slash, but said mostly good things .

cant wait to see the full event.

this is all just what i gathered from reading stuff from people that were at the event that they posted on twitter and mygnr btw.

You buy them online before the pre sales which we did & got front row. If they do announce dates & when tickets go on sale I'll let you know who we used. We were upgraded from the side to the front & got backstage passes from BBF after the show. A night I'll never forget.

what a tease!  :hihi:

I think asking about new music must be the most annoying question for everyone concerned in the band or TB. They've been asked this for how many years now? I know we want new music but it's the last thing I'd ask about, they will let us know when they're about to release something and it's the one question you're sure not to get an answer on & you've wasted time you could have spent talking & joking about something else. The fans in Portugal got a good response from Axl as nobody asked about music & he was enjoying himself as much as the people he was chatting to.

thats pretty awesome man, yeah would be good if you can give me some inside info on how to secure the best tickets :)

Which show did u go to last time?

I was at the Newcastle show in 2013. i was about 5 people back and have epic memories of that night.  :peace:

Melbourne 17th March 2013 at Myer Music Bowl. Yes remind me when rumours begin about dates & we'll search for this crowd who sold the tickets. Aussie post didn't deliver them despite being registered mail to be signed for so the Co left the tickets at the venue for us. Aussie Post said they had no record of the register post number but what do you know, they turned up 2 weeks after they'd been posted.

WOW, ID HAVE BEEN STRESSING IF MY TICKETS HADNT TURNED UP ON TIME LOL :o

So the bits and bobs from this session that we learned -

Axl does regular vocal exercises with his old vocal coach from 20 years ago.

Axl apparently made his voice cleaner for CD which he feels people didnt respond well too.

Axl may release his own book.

Axl is impressed by Slash's work ethic, him and Duff learnt all the CD material on their own unprompted.

Axl believes Slash fabricated some details in his book and told him so in 2015 over the phone when they patched things up.

Axl is working on new music which Duff n Slash have received positively. :)

Axl is open to working on new Music with Angus.

The current Guns n Roses arrangement is one that Axl would like to keep going for quite a while.

 

 

I think asking about new music shows support for it. Besides, how could we not? And every now and then, some answers and tidbits of information come to the surface thanks to people asking questions about it, so I wouldn't say it's completely futile. Some of us are dying for some new tunes, and I think it's important to an extent for them to be asked about it. If one of them comes out and says "knock it off with the new music questions", that would be a different story though. I guess Ax got sick of those questions pre Chi Dem, but I think it's a little different this time around.

https://youtu.be/t3fckJMnMjA

Goes to just audio but still pretty good

Puts headphones in and you're fine

 What a strange event for him to be a part of- I wonder how it came about?

This is awesome. Unexpected and his replies are very good. He needs to do this more often.  :beer: :smoking: :peace:

Agreed! The girl (previous poster)'s got rhythm. Hint Hint Next revamp on the US tour song for Axl/DC?

http://www.alternativenation.net/axl-rose-talks-guns-n-roses-reunion-album-criticizes-slash-book/

Full video is here.  Just found, can't watch until later.

I tried listening... and it's hard to make some words out... this was actually infuriating... because I want to ask like a billion follow up questions to the brief responses he gave !

Like... I told Slash when we first talked that you made up all this shit in the book!!! .....

Well what the hell did Slash to say to that? lol

Really looking forward to hearing more from him and the others.... I do hope Eddie Trunk gets to interview them because he will ask some of the right questions.

I'd love to know how and why he agreed to make this what seems like a random appearance.

The guy is endless entertainment... him answering questions on ANY subject is in a way more fascinating than any concert or song could ever be.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/axl-rose-talks-about-working-on-new-music-relationship-with-angus-young-and-possible-autobiography/

that was really cool.

interesting new details about the actual band & CD.

about the vocal coach, is it Don Lawrence ?

He's worked with Ron Anderson in the past, who's been nothing but complimentary of him in the past.  It may be Anderson.

Ali

oh okay I thought he worked with him in the CD years

Axl Rose Talks New GNR Music, Potential Autobiography, and Touring with AC/DC

6/8/2016 by Monique Melendez

Axl Rose kept his appearance at the China Exchange in London all about the music.

The Guns 'N Roses frontman-turned-AC/DC touring lead singer brought up Guns 'N Roses' future as the band's 30th anniversary draws nearer. "We [GNR] are working on new stuff," Axl said. "I've got a lot of stuff together, and I played some stuff for Slash and Duff and they liked it. And Angus [Young, AC/DC guitarist] and I are talking about working together."

Axl opened up about the possibility of following in Slash's and Duff McKagan's footsteps and publishing a memoir. "[ I]t's tough, because I have to figure out how to word things in a way that doesn't just look like I'm being negative to everyone else or calling them a liar." Axl went on to reveal he took issue with Slash's self-titled autobiography: "Slash and I hadn't talked in 19 years, and [when we reunited] it was a good talk. And I was like, 'You wrote a lot of stuff that didn't even happen. It's not real.'"

Axl, who was deigned as one of the world's greatest singers in a viral list, hasn't released a solo album and doesn't entertain plans to do so -- "unless it was instrumental soundtrack stuff."
We [Guns N? Roses] are working on new stuff. I?ve got a lot of stuff together, and I played some stuff for Slash and Duff and they liked it. And Angus and I are talking about working together.?


Axl will continue to tour with AC/DC for their Rock Or Bust tour through Europe and America as Brian Johnson recovers from hearing issues. "I feel protective, [like] I do not want to let this guy down, more than almost anybody I?ve ever met," Axl said about Johnson.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7400269/axl-rose-gnr-music-potential-autobiography-touring

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/jarmo

a new Guns record with Slash & Duff, a potential AC/DC record with Axl...damn, amazing times.

I thought he said that about Angus?

"Asked about his relationship with Angus Young, Axl said: "It's great. I can't really explain it. I feel something? I feel protective,
[like] I do not want to let this guy down, more than almost anybody I've ever met. And I don't know why. And he's very responsive
to me. And they said they hadn't seen him this happy, they hadn't seen him moving around [as much before]. So that's kind of a
neat thing between musicians."

Yeah, those possibilities in addition to the shows that will be happening all summer.... :)



/jarmo

Looking forward to this "airing" in full on YouTube...But we've all heard the "I have a lot of material" line before...Would love some new Axl songs wether it's solo, GNR or AC/DC...Not saying it's likely but how about GNR and AC/DC simultaneously releasing new material as GNR did with the UYI set...

Yeah, the question was about his relationship with Angus wasn't it?



/jarmo

So it looks like if/when there is another Guns record, that it will be Slash and Duff adding their ideas/takes on what would have been the 2nd half of Chinese.  Based on how great their live takes on Better, TWAT, Chinese & TIL have been, this really exciting news to me.  :)

I can't even grasp the idea of listening to new Guns N Roses music after all these years. It's surreal to me.

"Surreal" seems to be the word that best sums up 2016 for GNR fans.  So yes, on top of seeing them live, hearing them on an official release together will be exactly that.  Can't wait!

Stuff like this is really what irks me about his silence over the years - not because he's not entitled to his privacy or anything, but because when he does give an interview he is always very well spoken, honest, and informative. Good listen all around. Hope more good things are on the horizon. Anticipating the shows at Met Life in July. 

20 Things We Learned During Axl Rose?s New Q&A Session
By Matthew Wilkening June 8, 2016 12:45 PM

Axl Rose offered his insights and opinions on a wide variety of topics ? including the return of Slash and Duff McKagan to Guns N? Roses, his current stint as AC/DC?s singer and the state of the music industry ? during a wide-ranging, nearly hour-long Q&A session at the China Exchange in London yesterday. You can hear the whole interview above, but we?ve selected a large selection of highlights for you below.

Guns N? Roses? Future Looks Bright ?
?I hope to keep this going for a quite a while. ? Right now, it?s all good. I mean, obviously that could just explode. I do want to put out more music with Guns N? Roses, and I don?t know if that has to do with Slash or not. ? If he wants to play on something, that would be great. I?ve been working to get kind of where things are. The Guns N? Roses reunion didn?t happen by chance or whatever. It was always looked at as a possibility, but it never seemed right or felt right.?

? But it?s a Bad Time for New Bands
?The heads of the music industry realize that for their business, why deal with a band? All they need is a star and a producer. They don?t even care who writes what or what it sounds like. They could be a genuine fan of music, say, the music company president, owner, whatever. But when it comes to their business, it doesn?t have anything to do with that. It just has to do with what?s going to be the easiest, what?s going to make the most money, and make the company and the shareholders happy and stuff like that. I can respect that ? but as an artist and a musician and working with bands, it doesn?t help me at all, and i don?t think that it helps music. It doesn?t help the bands become self-sufficient and successful, they?ve got to work a lot harder because the labels are more worried about themselves making money.?

Get in the Ring, 2016 Style
?Google and YouTube have really changed things for the artist, and the government?s just stepped out of the way. They lobby very hard to pay minimal royalties, and I don?t think that?s right.?

On Working With Angus Young
?It?s great. I can?t really explain it. I feel protective, I feel I do not want to let this guy down, more than almost anybody I?ve ever known. And I don?t know why. And he?s very responsive to me. And they said they hadn?t seen him this happy, they hadn?t seen him moving around [this much]. In between songs, he?s playing other stuff [that has inspired potential new song ideas]. So that?s kind of a neat thing between musicians.?

How Slash Responded to Playing Chinese Democracy Songs
?I?m a big fan of our previous lineup, before getting back with Slash and Duff. We did a lot of work with that. For him to take on Buckethead or Bumblefoot?s parts, and just step to it on his own, and work on it and like it and enjoy it, that helped a lot.?

GNR Company Policy: No Beating Up Kids
?When we were opening for bigger bands, and then when we first started headlining, I don?t think anybody knows how violent it was. It was really violent in the crowd. ? You?d have to stop the show. I got a lot of grief for stopping the show ?for no reason,? [but] there was just a lot of really rowdy crowds. I remember when we first started, you would have security that was looking for that, they wanted to get in and get in a fight with somebody. We put a stop to that pretty quickly, and got rid of people working for us that wanted to beat up kids. So it was really violent, it?s not as near that now.?

It Was Tough to Leave Dave Grohl?s Throne Behind
Apparently, Rose?s team was busy rather unsuccessfully trying to make their own version of Grohl?s chair when the Foo Fighters star offered the original for use after Rose?s foot injury. ?At first it?s really strange, but then people apparently liked how I was moving in it. I had to make myself get out of it in in AC/DC. They didn?t tell me to, but I made myself get out of that chair because you start feeling, as Angus said, ?a little too comfy.? It became a safety zone, rather than having to get out their and face the people in another way.?

He?s Taking His Increased Workload Very Seriously
Saying he?s returned to his vocal coach after two decades, Rose explained why he?s sounding so good nowadays. ?I do a lot of vocal exercises. ? The Brian Johnson Back in Black stuff is really demanding. Sing it wrong and you might not be signing again.?

Third Band? No Thanks!
When asked which other artists he?d like to collaborate with, the already overbooked Rose humorously and incredulously responded. ?TO JOIN?,? before explaining once again that he offered to help AC/DC simply because he realized ?they were going to have a lot of problems? with fans and business partners if they were forced to cancel their tour due to Brian Johnson?s hearing problems.

He Did Not Eat His Own Pets
Rose explained that some of the band?s bad boy reputation was hoisted upon them by an overeager media. ?Part of that was just being young, [but] when we would go to MTV, they?d ask us to tear their set apart. England was one of the greatest places for that, because the media here would write anything to try to promote you. They said I ran over my dogs and then I ate them. They said all kinds of crazy things.?

He Loves Queen ?
?Queen has always been my favorite band. Freddie is the greatest singer ever is the way I look at it. The other thing about Queen for me is they embraced so many different styles.?

? And Bon Scott?s Soft Side
?You don?t find that much in Brian?s work with AC/DC, but what I like about Bon?s old AC/DC, as aggressive as that music was, he would talk about having a broken heart or something like that. So it made it okay for guys to feel, and to let some of it out someway.?

He Brought Back ?Coma? for Slash ? and You
?Right now, I like performing the Chinese Democracy stuff most, but it was also really good to be doing the song ?Coma.? I knew it would make Slash happy, I knew it would make the fans happy, and since I was sitting in the chair, I knew I wouldn?t have to run around so much.?

Guns N? Roses Barely Survived Getting Their First Record Deal
?We had to sit on our asses for about four months, and it almost broke up the whole band. Everybody got hooked on drugs and stuff [during] whatever the label was doing to figure out who would work with us. Everybody was terrified of us anyway because they thought we were all going to die. We were going to leave the label. We wanted to play, we wanted to get out to New York or something. We didn?t get signed to sit in an apartment.?

He Was Worried How AC/DC?s Fans Would React to Him
Rose admitted to being concerned about how he?d connect with AC/DC?s audience, even if he sang the songs correctly. ?I know how hard it is. Lots of bands do not want to open for [Guns N? Roses], they just don?t want to, they don?t want to deal with our fans. It?s kind of the same with AC/DC fans. They?re very serious about their band.?

His Advice to a Younger Axl?
?Form my own label. We didn?t think that big at the time, I didn?t have that type of business education. We should have formed our own company and figured out a distributor. It?s not just the money.?

Will He Write an Autobiography?
?I think so, possibly yes. But it?s tough because I haven?t figured out a way to word things that doesn?t just look like I?m being negative to everybody else, or calling them a liar. Slash and I hadn?t talked in 19 years, and when we did talk, I was like, ?You know, you wrote about a lot of stuff that didn?t happen, that just ? is not real.'?

He Would Like to Score Movies
Rose?s answer to a question about his current favorite music revealed a surprising career ambition. ?I mainly listen to the music that?s playing during movies. It can be the theme to Pirates of the Caribbean, The Equalizer, stuff like that. I like the blend of orchestra with modern instrumentation. It?s something that I?ve wanted to do. I was more interested in that than staying in Guns N? Roses. It would have been easier and more fun. I have a lot of respect for people that do that.?

He?s Not Down With Censorship
?Chinese Democracy wasn?t trying to tell China to have a democracy or anything like that. I don?t have an opinion on what kind of government they should have. My thing is, I went to stay there for about three months, and everywhere I went, the people are so shielded from what?s going on in the world. When you stay in hotels there, you don?t realize that the stuff you?re seeing on TV, the average person isn?t seeing. Everywhere I went, people are scared, they?re frightened for their lives to have an opinion that deviates from the government about the simplest things, things that we take for granted. I feel that that?s wrong, it?s not good for anyone. I do feel people should be free to have their opinions and develop their thoughts.? He then joked, ?but.. [I?m] speaking as a dictator,? in reference to longstanding rumors about the manner in which he supposedly runs Guns N? Roses.

Advice on Living With Cats
?If you don?t keep yourself open, to some degree, they?re not going to be around.?




http://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-quotes-2016/




/jarmo

Axl Rose Talks New Music, Possible Memoir in Rare Interview

"I've played some stuff for Slash and Duff and they liked it," Guns N' Roses singer says
By Kory Grow June 8, 2016

Axl Rose said in a new interview that the touring, classic-era lineup of Guns N' Roses has already considered working on new music. "I've got a lot of stuff together, and I played some stuff for Slash and Duff, and they liked it," Rose continued. "They might be on [the recordings]. We don't know."


The singer participated in a wide-ranging, nearly hour-long chat with Sir David Tang at London's China Exchange earlier this week, also answering questions from fans. The reclusive singer covered everything from his ongoing tour fronting AC/DC to the current state of Guns N' Roses. Sahir Khan, an attendee at the event, recorded the chat and blogged a summary.

Staying on the topic of music, Rose also offered that he'd been in talks about making new music with the AC/DC camp. "Angus [Young] and I talked about working together," he said. "So we'll see."

The frontman also revealed that he is considering writing an autobiography. The only thing holding him back is the politics that come with writing about the other founding members of GN'R. "It's tough because I haven't figured out how to word things in a way that doesn't just look like I'm being negative to everybody else and calling them a liar," the singer said in a new interview. "Slash and I hadn't talked in 19 years, and when we did talk, I was, like, 'You wrote a lot of stuff that didn't even happen. It's not real.'" He did not address what he saw as lies.

In the rest of the interview, Rose discussed why he joined up with AC/DC, his interest in possibly working on a film soundtrack, his views on streaming music services and his diverse musical taste.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/axl-rose-talks-new-music-possible-memoir-in-rare-interview-20160608




/jarmo

Can't help but think of what exactly lead to ... OK I will take his phone call now after all this time... a transcript of that call might be entertaining  :)

The idea of Slash and Duff contributing to songs like it's been floated for months now...is just too damn exciting.

Even if anyone thought of it back then, how realistic would that be?  Unlike now, there was no digital distribution, how would they afford to manufacture CDs, cassettes, etc. for distribution?

Good point.

Imagine if Axl did have the power to release and control material without that hurdle of a record label? Then we really would have been on him to deliver it up in a timelier fashion!

I think its also going to become clearer and clearer that this could have happened a long time ago if not for the book Slash wrote.

So, it looks like even though he's played some of the next album for Slash and Duff, and they responded positively to it,  their involvement will depend on whether they feel like they have an idea, or could add something to existing songs, going by his "if he wants to play on something, that would be great" comment.  It also looks like they may not appear on every track. Hmm...

Hahahahaha
That transcription would sell faster than tickets to Taylor Swift's tour.

Yeah....

If we do ever get that next album... sounds like Axl could be the only constant from track to track. Each song worked on by the entire catalog of players that have come and gone and come back.

I never thought Slash would be OK with something like that... if he is... good for him... and even better for us.

That would be weird IMO.
But it seems that they haven't objectively talked about it, which makes sense since they have a big tour coming.

Say what??  :confused:

Dude!, the reunion tour is called "NOT IN THIS LIFETIME"  :hihi:

I don't think so. Slash went to Axl's house long before he wrote the book. And he couldn't talk to Axl

Ha yeah... a bit of a contradiction there.

Yeah, it seems like it's kind of up in the air.  He got the ball rolling by playing them some of the new stuff, hopefully things snowball from here.  Who knows? Maybe we'll here one or two of them live "soon", however unlikely. Could help them organically form what they'll sound like on the album with Slash & Duff's input.

I think the book was the nail in the coffin... until 2015... which for some reason cooler heads prevailed a little bit. Gotta believe Duff was in his ear saying... we can hash this out.

Duff had the same "lies" in his book... so maybe they were all able to understand that nobody was lying and just how they saw it or how the information was relayed to them.

Different perspectives bring different views of reality.  Being on drugs doesn't help.  Gotta figure that some shit is just plain made up to fill in the blanks.

Regarding new music, better that Axl and Slash wouldn't replace all parts.  If the record is almost done, and Slash finds a way to add to or change a solo, and Axl likes it, they'll record.  But to re-record everything, that would be a nightmare, no? 

LOL, maybe he meant someone else's lifetime. 

I think...we all say things we don't really mean when we're pissed.  I think both in a business sense and in his heart, Axl never fully closed that door.

Exactly, but remember the flack people got (mainly here) by even mentioning or suggesting a reunion in years past?  A bit ironic, no?  This whole time, even when some pretty definitive stuff was being said (cough, cancer, cough) it was always a possibility. 

regarding "new" music, Axl has 2-3 albums worth of unreleased material, we all have been hearing about that for over a decade. He has plenty to work with. I'm thinking he will work on brand new stuff with duff and slash and release material from the vault in a possible box set.

Oh fucking please!  Get over your bleeding heart selves!!!

First off, I was only teasing/joking with my post.

Second, obviously something changed between then and now but when he said it, it was most definitely meant in his heart, mind, body and soul.

Axl has so much music finished that, maybe, he?s working w/ slash and duff on NEW songs (or new to us, but old tunes for them) thinking "let?s do that, and if someday this shit ends, I still have all that songs and albuns already done from those years, away from the royalties drama and I?m fine calling ashba, ron and thommy to tour on it".

On topic: Best Axl "interview" in years!  :peace:
(Still can?t understand why he didn?t do this as a press conference with slash and duff tho  :-X)

really enjoyed watching that
like the relaxed setting
also very cool that when the moderator was summing up an dsaying axl hould be alllowed to leave with no fuss he just said he'd stay and do whatever the audience wanted
(presume autographs and photos were done)
odd isnt it that after the endless shit the press writes about him he actually comes across really well

also he seems really happy with the reunion and acdc which is great news for people like me who just want to be able to get to hear new tracks with axl on vocals
 : ok:

back to new music, if Axl said this, then it is pretty apparent he isn't giving up control....at all.

"I do want to put out more music with Guns N? Roses, and I don?t know if that has to do with Slash or not. ? If he wants to play on something, that would be great."

Instead of talking to the regular media, and help them sell their newspapers, magazines, get click to their sites, he did something where regular (I mean, huge/massive/gigantic) fans got to ask him the questions...

Seems like he just decided to skip the middle men and talk directly with the fans.  : ok:



/jarmo

its fucking great he did it without press the interview is far mores natural relaxed for it

But what about that "the band won?t do interviews" by management? If Axl decided to do this this way, to me seems that Duff and Slash can talk to whatever newspapers, magazines, get click to their sites they want to

I hear you, and that's great that he's decided to do that

But still, don't you think that at some point he's gonna have to do some mainstream press?

I know Axl got A LOT of shit from most of the press during his whole life, and I can understand the fact that he doesn't want to talk to them, but there has to be some journalist from some big press organization tha he doesn't hate, and can talk to.

Take a look at this Q&A he did in London. Nobody, even us, knew he was going to do that.

Maybe they didn't, until the right one came along.




I don't know if he has to.
He did this Q&A and it's all over the media.....




/jarmo

great post. And this is how i kind of feel things played out. I mean.. even duff at the start of his books says something on the lines of this is how things played out from his side and that others may have different versions of events...

and i think thats something Axl probably had problems coming to grips with... others told their story and Axl was like.. hang on.. that never happened. And it may well not have happened.. but from Slash or Duffs perspective thats how it happened.

It is possible for no-one to be actually wrong. Or everyone to be wrong... sometimes thats just how it  is.

I think that, at some point, they'll have to find their way as a band if they want this to work long term.
It can't be only recording and reworking Axl's material. I'm sure everyone else could contribute with great stuff. But it seems to me that he is walking on thin ice, because they still don't have any plans and he doesn't know if Slash and Duff want to do it...

WTF??  Why does Axl have to come to grips with Slash n' Duff misremembering??

According to Axl in this interview, he said straight out to Slash that things in Slash's book never happened.

And Duff himself said that his memory isn't exactly too accurate.
GN'R went to Czechoslovakia in 1992. Duff was interviewed at the show by MTV Europe.  Duff doesn't remember being there.
?Maybe she was onto something, though, as a few days later I woke up in Budapest, Hungary, and looked incredulously at my passport. In it was a stamp from the Czech Republic. We had played a gig in Prague. I couldn?t remember having been there at all.?
(Excerpt From: McKagan, Duff. ?It?s So Easy.?)

So, in your opinion, Axl has to come to grips with GNR not really playing that show, that they in fact did play, because Duff has no memory of it??
 

Did you read what i wrote or just decide to mouth off for the sake of it????  :o

You are using a pretty stupid example to try and make a point. Do you think they have been fighting for 19 years over whether they played a gig in the Czech Republic? If you are going to make a point, id have expected a better example than that.

All i said was... that its obvious that there was 2 versions of events and those differed for years... none of us know how the conversation played out when they spoke... but they've obviously found some middle ground somewhere. I never said Axl had to come to grips with others misremembering.. i said axl probably had problems coming to grips with the others versions of events... i never indicated who was right or who was wrong.. Axl may well have been wrong.. or right.. who fucking knows.. not you... not me. Maybe Slash admitted to telling lies in his book.. maybe he didnt????

for the record, since you are being a dick about things... show me one piece of evidence to back up your example of them fighting about playing that show? see.... i can be a dick about things too when i want.  :yes:

pump your brakes, hombre. you keep talking like that to people somebody is going to start crying  :hihi:

at the end of the day is it really that relevant? we got bigger, more important things to talk about here.

Relax.  All I said was that Axl said he broached the subject of what was and wasn't true in that book directly to Slash himself and that Duff himself admitted that his memory was very subjective.

I though it was respectful how he said he really liked the last incarnation of GNR and was proud of what they accomplished..

only gnr fans can take something positive like Slash, Duff and Axl reconciling and hashing out their shit, and turn it into beating a dead horse.

just enjoy the fucking ride.  who gives a shit about the past?  i think that's something Axl was trying to convey today too

You're not curious how - after all the past - they came back together and were able hash out their shit and reconcile?

Their past is very much a part of their and our present.

Of course I'm curious and I hope that they tell us the story one day.  I'm not going to speculate on every little detail.

I'm sure it was as simple as "i remember it this way and i remember it this way.  well shit, lets just put it in the past because we were both probably wrong to some extent"

GNR fans, for the most part, just want to focus on the drama and negativity

I want every little detail and, until I get it, I want to speculate about it..... so I joined a GNR fan forum.

I'm sure whatever "it" was, "it" was anything but simple!!!


And yes, I do want to focus on the drama but not on the negativity.  There has been undeniable drama for decades.  I want to know how they got past all that.

Maybe he doesn't have too

IMO he should

I'm most curious on whether they will make new music, and where the music came from (the vault, old stuff they worked on in the 90's, or new material).  

The past is the past...of course we'd like to find out the "truth"...but the reality is we'll probably never get it.  We have Slash's and Duff's versions in their books, and it sounds like maybe Axl's in the future.  Whoever you like more, you will likely gravitate towards their version of it.  That's the closest we're going to get (IMO).

Why should he?  Asking in all earnestness, that's not code for 'he doesn't owe anyone anything, etc..." 

Totally agree with the fact that we'll probably never get the "truth" and fans will gravitate towards the version of who they like more.

But again IMO, their past is their and our present so the speculation is inevitable and keeps this and other forums in business.


I'm curious about IF they will release new music. 

I wasn't curious about where it would come from until Axl insinuated that he would be open to hearing what Slash might do with stuff from the vault.  From a speculation standpoint, it peaked my curiosity that if either one wasn't "feeling" the others' contribution to any given song that Axl wouldn't scrap said song but would instead use the contribution of previous band members.  (At least that's what I think he insinuated.)

I think that one of the main reasons Axl got/gets a lot of shit in the press is because he has always treated them disrespectfully.  And then he used to get bashed because of it, used to get angrier and treated them with even more disrespect. In other words, it's a vicious cycle.

I follow a great deal of bands (The Stones, Springsteen, Aerosmith, etc.), and they all do mainstream press. Rolling Stone covers, Late Night talk shows, interviews, press releases, etc.

I've always wondered why can't we get something like that with GNR. I feel like all we've done these past 16 years is just especulate on these boards.

Sure, we got some tours, and some press releases, and one album, but real information has always been to much difficult to find, and that can be really frustrating for us fans. And also, this lack of real news doesn't help the band's, and especially Axl's, image to the general public aswell.

PS.: On a side note, I think an autobiography by Axl would certainly be one of the most interesting things to read. And I don't mean the story behind the break up, because, as some of you said before, it's really a matter of personal views, there's no entire truth about it.

I'd prefer to read about his childhood, how it affected his adult life, how it generated his psycological problems (bipolar disorder for example), what he's been through and what he did to overcome those problems.

looks like the second half of chinese (whether or not it's called "cd2" or something else) is headed our way, with or without slash. im glad he's not shelving the stuff he did with the cd lineups in favor of reworked old demos or something new altogether.

i am very happy to hear this. as far as im concerned cd2 means anything written in the cd era done in the the progressive style that he championed in that era. a progressive follow up to "that" album, not a retreading of old ground.

"i don't know if that has to do with slash or not". if it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with slash, it definitely has something to do with the cd era guys.

I don't see an album with Slash or Duff on it if it's only Axl's material. I don't think Axl would be doin right if he really hopes that. Slash and Duff deserve the same credit as Axl in Guns n' Roses.   

That being said, i think they will find a way to work on songs from all of them and that the new Guns album will have some Axl's, Duff's and Slash's material. And maybe a song or some riffs from Richard as well

The Most Important:

- New Music
- New Music With This LineUp
- New Music RE-Edited From ChinDem-Era

 :smoking:

Which one do you thing happened first?

Like he mentioned in the Q&A, the English press used to write that he likes to kill dogs. Just for the sake of having a shocking story....
Not saying all of the media is like that, but sensationalism surely seems to be the fuel for many.



/jarmo

how did you get that from "I do want to put out more music with Guns N? Roses, and I don?t know if that has to do with Slash or not. ? If he wants to play on something, that would be great."

doesn't it imply basically the opposite?

 as for "doin' right"... well, I won't touch that part. don't agree with your opinion, but it has a lot to do with an age old debate that has been done to death, so i'll just agree to disagree.

In all honesty it doesn't sound like new Guns music is on the horizon any more than it did 5 years ago or when Axl was 'looking very seriously at what he was doing in that regard' - but who really thought it was? The current tour is about Axl, Slash and Duff together playing the hits.

I can see a new album with Angus before I can see new Guns material.

Five years? That comment is from an interview done in April 2014.
Two years is still two years, even if it would feel like five. ;)

Sorry!  :hihi:




/jarmo

I'm afraid it's not that easy. Look at what he says about labels. There is a big obstacle there  :-\

agree....talk is cheap in the world of Guns N Roses in regards to new music. Facts are no new songs in 8 years and nothing confirmed for the future.  :-\

I don?t think the reunion is just about playing the hits.  IMO, they wouldn?t have reconciled with each other just for a tour.  There was/is a lot of shit to sort out between the three of them (really Axl and Slash, as Duff and Axl seemed to mend fences a few years back), and I don?t think they would have done that just to play a few shows.  I think they want to show the world that they can reclaim the rock throne with a new Guns n Roses album.  To do that, you have to start with a tour, which has been very successful so far.  There is a ton of good press/buzz about the upcoming NA tour, and rumors of touring the globe.

That?s the way to do it.  Get them pregnant with the old stuff?then hit ?em with the new.  Drop the mike, and call it a career.  Well, at least that?s how it plays out in my head!  :)

I didnt listen to the interview, the sound was too bad and I didnt have time to do it properly yet. But from what I read, seems like the new music isnt exactly around the corner. Excited that he didnt disregard the previous lineup and all of their work, tho.

I just struggle to understand how people can't dig more into his answers with follow up questions. I mean, how the hell can you not ask more about when he wants to release, what kind of music, if he wants to write with the new old boys... And also how the reunion happened, how much talk was needed... I mean, even if youre not a superfan, you at least would be curious enough to talk about those things, right?

Well, at least the guy did ask him about cats. :hihi:

I'm OK with a new record coming out in a couple of years... if that's what it takes...

My hope is that they spark a real solid relationship again and enjoy the tour so much ... that it will inspire some great new stuff... whether from scratch or they all put their mark on what Axl already has.

Even from the very little Axl said in this "interview"... you don't get the impression that the relationship is "perfect". He was barely asked anything about the reunion and he still managed to mention Slash's book and the fact that Slash told him he doesn't want to work too hard! (which made me cringe, Slash has proven over the past 20 years quite the opposite) So I just hope that all things go well... because GNR without Slash at some point would be such a blow to the whole thing and all the heap and praise that has been thrown Axl's way would go with it.

Hopefully we get more clarification on how they put all this back together... just to ease some fears! Like Axl said... it could implode at any time! So lets all keep our fingers crossed this summer goes swimmingly and they get inspired to hammer out CD 2! ..or whatever it will be called.

I think CD 2 is dead in the water...whole new ballgame now.

I could never imagine a record where 3 or 4 the songs were reworked by Slash... and the rest feature x y and z from the various CD musicians...

but based on the little info we got from Axl the other day... sounds like that's what he envisions...

Perfect world for me... Slash Duff, Izzy and Richard write an entire new album together ... and Axl releases the CD stuff separately or as part of one big release. (yes izzy  :) )

Frankly, I think Slash took it WAY easy on Axl in that book.  Imagine the lunacy he left out.

I tend to agree, but who figured there would be CD songs in the setlist?

Have to admit a bit of personal annoyance with Axl's line about enjoying playing the CD tunes the most. 

Because, when you're there, you have your question ready. It's what you want to ask. That one question.
Then you get your shot, and you ask it, get your answer, and then it's someone else's turn. And they in turn have their question which isn't related to anything he's said earlier in the Q&A... And so on.

That's what I suspect might happen....
Fans, not journalists... :)






Why?



/jarmo

I'm sure he could have told some not so flattering stories... but same goes for any of those guys...

I'd imagine the main issue Axl took from it was the insistence over the name rights, which has been proven to not have gone down the way Slash and Duff thought or represented in their books.

I think the only reason Slash didn't go full scorched earth on Axl is because he knew that shuts down a reunion forever.

We'll never get all the information we want, but I think, comparatively speaking, we get more information from these types of appearances compared to mainstream outlets like late shows or popular magazines.  (btw, I think he confirmed he's not bipolar)

Fair point that him shunning mainstream press can hurt his image.  They're more likely to present him in a less flattering light if he's not helping them sell their media.  That's always a tough balancing act for an artist, because some artists play ball with the media and still get slammed.  But from our standpoint as more informed fans, why should we care?  Why do we need the general public's adulation?  I understand wanting our fandom to be validated, but isn't it already?  Regardless of whatever happens with this band, isn't their legacy as one of the greats etched in stone by now?

It's entirely possible that both sides were completely honest.

Slash/Duff were told that Axl wouldn't go on stage.  But Axl never actually said or implied that himself.

That has always been the most logical explanation. Amazing it took 19 years for all parties to come to terms with.

I do think the press started first.

But Axl wasn't the most affable carachter back in the day either. That's why I think it was a vicious cycle.

The thing that gets me more excited in 2016, besides him touring with ACDC and the old guys, is that he seems to have overcome some of his problems.

He has been more than lovely with people on the streets, cracking jokes and stuff like that. That Q&A proves that.

Also, he seems to be showing up on time, showing more professionalism, which is great too

An interview with Stern would address all of this. It would be epic. I'm fairly certain I heard stern say back in 2010 that Axl would be at the top of his list of people he would love to interview.

hopefully we get more press and some more interviews. he did promise trunk an interview. maybe that will be used to promote the GnR tour.

He's always been that way with fans.

I get what you're saying, to some it might come as a surprise, and them watching the Q&A might make them realize that.




/jarmo

Big time.  It's a phenomenal development.

Do you not understand the meaning of the word 'or' or something? In this case it is used to give two seperate examples. Hence 'OR' and not 'AND'.

Ummm a lot of people care about the past.

Slash and Axl didn't talk for almost 19 years or so. Lots of bad blood went down and people would be really intersted into what went down, songs recorded that no one has heard... and the actual relationship now.

The past isn't the point of right now, but you can't forget the past.

I must say also that his Q and A definitely makes it sound like Slash and him haven't talked much about doing new music really.

Or they have no concrete plans. The book bit was interesting. I mean how do you write a book now when you basically say a lot of the stuff from your guitarist's book is lies?

Just a little edgy I think. I hope this Ac/Dc thing fades. We've gotten so little Gn'R stuff over the years, we want demos, unreleased, 25th anniversary collections, new album... a best of...

we want material. I just hope the ACDC thing fades out after he helps them out.

I hope the AXL/Dc thing goes on for many years to come! It is amazing the chemistry between AXL and Angus.

But what's the upside?

Seems like all risk, little reward.

In 2014 I would have killed for Axl's detailed account... but now... please I never want to read it, hear it, or see it! Nothing good can come of it. Now, I want to hear about reconciliations, daisies and butterflies only!

Right...at this point, it's just going to unearth and resurrect bad feelings that (hopefully) have been smoothed over by the recent reunion.  Let's focus on the present now...the past we can get to later.

Upside? Not everything has a upside...

People would like to know about things... I  mean what is happening now is awesome. It is... but I would like some more information on how they got back together, what was said... did Duff play a big part in it?

Anything from their 19 years of nothing, and most importantly I would love to know more about the 1994-1996 years. I think more went down than we know with music and it is interesting. If they are indeed back together for good... why not?

My point man is that things were really bad with them. For them to be back together...

You would thing they've hashed it out. They could basically sell the story of how it all went down and the coming back together. It could be just factual stuff and not be this mess you all think it could turn into.

Axl has addressed Slash's book to Slash, which means its safe to say that they've gotten into this deeply. Why not share it to the fans?

I'm interested. No one else is?

Whatever though. I'm just glad all is well.

I do, or maybe I don't, or...?  :-[

But seriously, I think we are closer than we were two or (!) five years ago. Some probably made the same assumption in early 2008, saying we weren't any closer than we were five years before. And look what happened.
So yeah, I think we are closer. Not sure when or (!) how it'll happen, but we're getting closer... Logic. Unless your logic says it will never happen. Then you got a point, but that's not what you think I hope, or is it?




/jarmo

Not everything has to have an upside.  That's certainly true.  By that same token, not every question has to be answered and not every detail has to be surrendered. 

They could just as easily say, "the details of how we reconciled personally and professionally will remain between us".

Saying that won't change any of the shows they'll play or any new music they may potentially work on together.

Ali

Even Axl has commented about writting a book

Just a heads up but I don't think it will be a book about the future

It will be a book about the past

I am very interested in te history of guns n roses. 

I would love to hear or read stories about the process of puttin the album CD together

I would also love to hear more stories about the present and future.    I would love someone to actually get a proper interview with follow up questions that are meaningful

I haven't read any of their books and don't plan on it even if Axl wrote one.

1. I have a short attention span.
2. I think you can get most of what you need by looking online at old articles written back at the time the story was actually unfolding.

50 year old men telling stories about things that happened 25 years ago can be dicey at best.  :hihi:

I'm not so sure Axl will be writing a biography. I think it would painful and maybe there are some personal issues he wouldn't like to talk about.
To give his side of the story about the GN'R break up it's easy to do. But talking about his childhood, his ex wife/girlfriends or that Yoda person he used to visit in Arizona. I don't know if wants to explain those kind of things.

For follow up questions. We need an interview with Eddie Trunk, RS Magazine or  another chat with fans around forums

I could see the interest in how they patched it up last year.  That's a fun story.

But I not only have no interest in finding out how it all went to hell in 1995, I only see bad things and bad feelings coming back to the surface if you got into it.

Not necessarily.
If there's a happy ending to the story, then it doesn't have to.




/jarmo

Way easy??  I'd bet the "lunacy" Axl could drop about Slash would way outweigh stories about Axl.  Only difference is people, the fans, the general public, are more interested in any benign story about Axl over an outrageous story about Slash.

Bullshit.  The main person who was afraid of a reunion never happening was probably the same person who forced Slash to write the book in the first place.  Since he's no longer married to that person, the reunion has taken place and maybe in that conversation with Axl, Slash admitted to his misremembering the actual facts and circumstances.

Even Slash's dad had to tell him that he, Slash, misremembered his birth certificate indicates where he was actually born.

As someone else said, if Axl wants to release CD2 then perhaps he could do that under his own name???

It sounds like Axl has taken some ideas to slash and duff and they seem receptive.. he didnt elaborate on whether Slash and Duff had taken some ideas to him as well? But if there is new ideas being thrown around.. then IMO logically just starting with a fresh canvas might be the best option for them?? I may be in the minority here, but id prefer a fresh start then CD2 (if CD2 is along the same type of lines as CD)..

thats just me though.

In my opinion, what most of guns n' roses fans would prefer (and we are talkin' about millions of people worldwide) is new music from classic guns. We miss Izzy here, but at least we have the 3 main classic members (along with Izzy) working together again.
personally I hope if there is a new album in progress to be a democratic and plural one. I would love to get some punk nerve songs from Duff, some bluesy and hard-rock guitar driven songs from Slash, a few epic ballads and modern metal-rock songs from Axl and even some surprises from Richard and Frank
They could mix the best of each member and do a really great rock album! I have my hopes about this working well and we gettin new music next year! Let's see

Couldn't agree more

Axl should release all the stuff he has from these years as his solo thing, like Slash or Duff did. Millions of fans around the world didn't associtted CD (and I like it and think it's a great album) with Guns. It's more like a solo effort from axl to me and I think to most GNR fans worldwide

I would love to listen to all the songs he's been working on for the last 15 or 20 years. I would love if he release that stuff as AXL. Just CD  from him is like almost nothing. We missed his talent for so many years  :(

Me too

I would love they do other stuff as well as a new Guns album and a worldwide tour. I want Slash to keep his amazin' solo career, he has found and amazing singer in Myles and an amazing backin' band in Conspirators. I hope they release their next album next year as they planned. I would also love to get music from Duff's project. Leeve Walkers stuff, a new Duff solo album (with Izzy collaborating), a new Walkin' Papers album, a new Loaded album
And for Axl I would love a new ACDC album with him on vocals

I think they are all now much more mature and hard-working musicians than what they were back in the 90s. I'm sure they can manage to do their own stuff as well as Guns stuff

I don't really wanna know about their fights. There's no real truth to tell. There's Axl's side of the story, Slash's and Duff's...and if they already discussed what they felt they needed to, maybe keep bringing that up can cause tension between them. What I really want to know is where things are now.

Regarding Axl's praise for the CD era, songs and musicians, it's not surprising. I think he wants to make sure that everyone knows how happy he's been and how satisfied he is with the work he did for the last 15 years. He would never disregard his own work.

What a good interviewer could do is ask him about the current situation: how this all came together, how they felt playing together after so long, how they chose the songs, if they have plans for the future, how different it is to play again with the people who wrote these songs with him and with whom he has so much history. Come on, it has to be different. Acknowledging how special is the current situation doesn't mean that he's disregarding the last 15 years. I hope Axl can see that and be open to share his thoughts on the reunion. At the Troubadour he looked paticularly happy to be there, I think. I would also like to hear from Duff and Slash.

Between the world tour and Axl possibly working with Angus, I can't see a new GNR album coming out soon (hope I'm wrong!). I would love to see a real colaboration between all of them, not just everyone reworking Axl's material or an album with a hundred different musicians that doesn't feel like a band's album.

well said
 : ok:

Same here. Someone sent me Slash's book when it was released but never got around to reading it. I've been considering reading Duff's book though.


It sounds like it might now be in play....or certain tracks from it anyways. I agree that whatever gets released wont be the CD II us hardcores have talked about for years.

My ultimate pipe dream is to someday get CD and CD II from 2001-02.

you are not in the minority, but i feel like people are really trying not to see the obvious in what he said regarding new material.

paraphrasing here: i have lots of new guns stuff done i want to put out... not sure if slash has anything to do with it.... if slash wants to play on it that would be great... cd stuff is my favorite stuff to play... if i did a solo album, it would be an instrumental thing (second time hes said that)...

on what planet does that equal "i'm going to release my stuff as a solo album and start from scratch on the next guns album with slash and duff. taking songs they already wrote and combining that stuff with some stuff i have laying around.?

are people just seeing what they want to see? but i guess you could say i am doing the same thing in a way.

one reason i hope the next album is not entirely new material is because that would take a hell of a lot longer than slash and duff contributing to what axl already has. start from scratch? really? when you have all this great material already? and after the very positive reactions people have shown to slash putting his spin on the cd songs?


honestly, i could care less about axls childhood, his menal health history, or what caused the break up. that stuffs all personal, and irrelevant. i would have wanted it a few years back, but ive learned to try and respect the private stuff a little more. i mean sure, if he puts i out i'll read it, but im not pinning for it.

what i would love though, is to read the chapters concerning the cd era. the history of each song, what it means to him, what he's singing about, where the inspiration came from etc... and to hear about all the crazy shit hes seen and done, being such a larger than life personality and all. y'know, rock star stories.

I respectfully disagree on that
Slash and Duff (and Richard and Frank) can write and record a badass album in a few months. They have been doin' it all these years. I'm pretty sure they all have great songs written  but I would love if they could write some songs together as well. It shouldn't be that long as you paint it. If the chemistry and good vibe is there they can write an album together and get it ready for next year

the vocal coach was the most interesting thing to me...seems the ol' boy is dead serious about the extra workload  : ok:

you guys are missing 3 great books. Believe when I tell you they're more than worthy and that the parts where they share their side on the break up are not the reason they are awesome books.
I love Slash's book when he talks about his childhood, his first years as a guitar player and the part when he had already left Guns
And Duff's books are really fun and entertaining. He is becomin a great writer. His books have lots of anecdotes that make their read a lot worthy

yeah
Why in the hell didn't he get that coach back before?. He is singing better than he's done in a really really long time. I think the ACDC challenge is good for his voice. It made him work hard on his voice again and seems like the tour with Guns is gonna be one of the best ever

Repeat My Post ?

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Personally I'm very much of a 'don't expect new material to be released, but if it is, great' mindset. From reading around this board and others I think there are a few who optimistically thought once Slash was back a new album would definitely follow relatively quickly. Fact is touring the old stuff is a safe prospect, the money is in the tour not an album, and the old stuff is what most people want to hear. Take Slash out of the equation and what we're hearing from Axl is no different than what we heard from him and the last lineup for years. Ideas are being thrown around, recordings exist, we'll look at what to do with them. Nothing that points to 'hell yes, get ready for a new record'.

Well, if you look back at what he said in 2014, it does seem like he wanted to get that material out. Then something else happened, which we are seeing the results of this year (the tour).

Hopefully the business side of getting new music out will be smoother than in the past.



/jarmo

Because this was going to be a higher profile gig.

This tour is going to have a lot of eyeballs on it.  Some who never saw him at all.  Some that haven't paid attention to him in a decade plus.

Last thing he'd want, I imagine, is to be seen as the weak link.

I love it.  I love his dedication and his focus this time around.  This is too important to half ass.  And he's killing it this year.

Yeah but they?re not just playing the old stuff, unless you count CD as old stuff.  Of course the majority of songs are from the AFD/UYI era (because that?s where the majority of GnR songs are from), but they?ve been playing around 4 CD songs during this tour (which some thought would never happen).  To me, that?s a sign that it?s not a pure nostalgia cash grab (that?s right up there with ?regrouping? and ?artistic integrity? for most annoying words on a forum, btw) but there are bigger things at play.

Axl alluded to new music?with or without Slash.  Sure, it?s not concrete?things change, but IMO it points to the end game is more than just a tour.

Axl wants new Guns N Roses music...with or without Slash, with or without Buckethead or Tommy or Duff or anyone else. NOTHING has changed in Axl's world as far as the way he runs Gnr. The guy hasn't changed his tune or softened his stance on anything. The interview is proof of it as he reiterates the same things he said in the chats in December 2008. You have to respect that.

The main thing is that he seems very happy, and I would imagine that it was a HUGE boulder off his shoulder when he reconciled with Slash and Duff (no pun intended with Atlas Shrugged!). HUGE. Now he is killing the AC/DC gig and priming for his biggest GNR run since 1991. Strike when the iron is hot....Ax is no dummy, and the sharks at UNI aren't either. We will get some new Gnr tunes within the year.

Axl's original vision of CD 2 may be dead in the water but the songs and music created are not dead in the water. All of that material is still available and ready for immediate use or some alternate versions with Slash and Duff. But, like Duff said in one of his interviews after coming back a few years ago, him and Tommy play alike and think alike. He said it was easy for him to learn the Chinese stuff because Tommy played what he would have played. Point is, tweaking  a few bass lines is easier than changing lead guitar parts. Thus, I would think, the big challenge is to incorporate Slash in the songs so that the tunes may be more radio/commercial friendly. I don't think it would be hard to sell a new Gnr tune if it just had a Slash style solo on it.

If they added Ron's parts into CD late in the game, I don't see why they couldn't just as easily work Slash's contributions into CD2. 

yep....except I would think Slash would want a bigger footprint...I am sure the label would want the same.

yeah
Just to expect contributions from Slash and Duff on songs that are already written is insulting
Slash and Duff deserve the same credit as Axl on the makin' of a new GNR album

If Axl is intelligent he will be as open and receptive to Slash's and Duff's songs as they are to his songs . And that's the only way I think a new GNR album would be as great and succesfull as the original stuff and not a "failure" (commercially and cold received) as Chinese Democracy was (which I think is a good album, with some great songs, but not a truly GNR album)

Agree 100%.

now it makes sense. i was wondering what you meant by saying cd2 is dead in the water. i thought the interview definitely pointed to those songs being put to use so i was confused when you said it and wondered what made you think so. but now i get what you mean.


cd was not a commercial failure and axl is plenty intelligent regardless of if he is receptive to slash and duffs songs or not. guess well have to agree to disagree again  :)

Has there been a spike in sales of CD since the reformation of the band, the sales levels prior to this probably amounted to a few hundred unit per week at best.

good question...I was wondering what the spike was for AC/DC. Guns has a huge following worldwide so you have to think sales have spiked for AC/DC. Guns is always a waiting game...make sure the tour goes well and both bands likely see a huge spike in sales by the end of the year. Two huge iconic bands with the same lead singer....same year...kinda unprecedented. :beer:

cd was not a commercial failure and axl is plenty intelligent regardless of if he is receptive to slash and duffs songs or not. guess well have to agree to disagree again  :)
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yes it was. Considering the tremendous costs and the not so great sales of the album, I think it was some kind of "failure". And I think it's a good album, but it makes no sense to spend so much time and money to do a rock album. Many former fans didn't support what Axl did for the las 20 years. He could and should have done things in a different way. Release more stuff and release it as his own thing, not under Guns n' Roses name. That's egocentrical and selfish from him. It's like if Steven Tyler or Robert Plant decide to release an album under Aerosmith or Led Zeppelin names. Guns disbanded because of personal and musical differences that made the band to implode. They all went with their careers except Axl

It seems Coma was added to the set by Slash suggestion...nice!  : ok:

yes it was. Considering the tremendous costs and the not so great sales of the album, I think it was some kind of "failure". And I think it's a good album, but it makes no sense to spend so much time and money to do a rock album. Many former fans didn't support what Axl did for the las 20 years. He could and should have done things in a different way. Release more stuff and release it as his own thing, not under Guns n' Roses name. That's egocentrical and selfish from him. It's like if Steven Tyler or Robert Plant decide to release an album under Aerosmith or Led Zeppelin names. Guns disbanded because of personal and musical differences that made the band to implode. They all went with their careers except Axl
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That's something I've always wandered myself. Why Axl didn't release it as a solo record.

There's no way to deny, GNR image is, and always will be attached to Axl and Slash.

I think that part of the rejection to "nu-Gnr" was due to the fact that people didn't truly recognize the band as GNR. Had he released it under his name, I think people would receive it in a better way.

That's something I've always wandered myself. Why Axl didn't release it as a solo record.

There's no way to deny, GNR image is, and always will be attached to Axl and Slash.

I think that part of the rejection to "nu-Gnr" was due to the fact that people didn't truly recognize the band as GNR. Had he released it under his name, I think people would receive it in a better way.
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Yeah man. That's general opinion  : ok: :)

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Off course it's beating a dead horse, but that was the topic of the discussion  :peace: : ok:

The topic is China Exchange: 60 Minutes with Axl Rose.

The topic is not about how/why/when Axl uses the GNR name.

 :peace:

It's more or less the same  :peace:

Not really, but thanks for trying.

Please stick to the actual topic.  : ok:




/jarmo

I know there are a lot of Axl's fans here (me included)
I know many of you (me not included) don't like to accept Axl didn't make the best of choices and didn't do a great career for the last 20 years. That he was egocentric and selfish believing he was Guns n' Roses, and that made him do so wrong and get so poor and bad reputation from general public. All of this is related to one of the questions from this China Exchange. The one in he talks about new music and how he showed some stuff to Slash and Duff. I insist, if Axl expect them to just make some contributions in his songs and treat them like another hired guns, he would bein' arrogant and stupid again. That would be insultin' for Duff and Slash. If they really made peaces, they should try to work as a democratic band and all of them have the same credit and weight on the new music, specially the original members: Duff, Slash and Axl. They are the guys that most of millions of Guns fans worldwide want to see doing magic together again

i think you're on to something there. and i think it would be more than enough to get most slash fans or people that don't accept gnr without slash to get on board with it. are the majority of people going to cause a fuss over who wrote what, or are they going to see slash's name in the credits, hear his signature solos, see his picture in the album sleeve etc and call it good? i know we like to get into details here, but that's what we do. we're hardcore. the public? maybe not so much.

i think asking axl to set aside the music he and the chidem line up worked so hard and spent so much time to create, and that is apparently very important to him, regardless of what one may think is right or wrong, is not very realistic. i also think from a business persepective it is not very realistic, as so much time effort and money has already been invested into said material; perhaps too much for it to be simply tossed aside.

I think some of those songs will be reworked by this new line up. But I also think Slash and Duff will bring their own riffs and songs to make more songs and make a much more democratic album
As I said, Duff and Slash don't deserve to be treated like another hired musician. That would be insulting. They're to Guns and to millions and millions of fans what John Paul Jons and Jimi Page are to LZ

I think a new Guns n' Roses album will be released next year and it will have:
- some songs from chinese democracy era reworked by this new line up,
- Some songs and riffs brought by Slash
- Some songs and riffs brought by Duff
- Some songs written by all of them together
- Hopefully a song or two by Izzy (well this last one is more of wish, not a realistic belief of mine hahaha  ;D)

I think what a lot of people forget is that all the songs we love and have played over and over again were songs they had written either individually, with other people (West Arkeen for example) or were from their old bands. And that seemed to work for them just fine. So I assume it'll work for them now as well.

What Axl said is nothing new: he played them some tunes and they seemed to be enthusiastic about it. That's no different than him playing them November Rain back in the day, or Izzy playing them Patience. I can see where some people might interpret the 'if he wants to play on those songs' as him being just a hired guitarist, but I don't think it's in those stages yet.

well im certainly not against slash and duff material. definitely not. ill be happy with whatever we get. im sure most of us will.

it's not all that far fetched, a few songs from each of them. but from what axl said, i got the impression that his stuff is coming out regardless of if they want to play on it or not. but they seemed to like it and went ahead themselves to learn cd stuff, so maybe they wouldn't see it as insulting to play on axls stuff. maybe they'd even be enthusiastic about it, maybe it blew them away.

If Axl really has three albums worth of material imagine slash and Duff putting music too it.  That intro to better and CD is better than the original.

I wonder what he meant about them learning CD. Did they (I mean, mostly Slash, Duff already played lots of those songs) learn how to play stuff like Scraped, Shacklers, Riad, IRS and Prostitute?

I don't know about you guys, but I would love to see what Slash could bring to IRS. :)

The songs were likely selected specifically...the two singles CD and Better then fan favorites TIL and TWAT....makes sense. I highly doubt they went outside of what is on the current potential setlist. Slash is still having to re-learn material he wrote 25 years ago....baby steps.

Was not referring to the thread itself, but how the discussion developed to a point where what I said could make sense to the discussion

Well, I bet he had at least 6 months to learn stuff, plus 1 month worth of rehearsals. I mean, he used to play at least half of the old songs with his band... The time is enough, but you're probably right about the selection of songs.

Yes, they had time enough to prepare these set-lists

and by the way, they did a great work  ;D

 :drool:

Very much agreed here.

While I share Voodoochild's opinion on loving to maybe hear 'I.R.S.', I do wonder if they have really worked out any CD songs than the ones we've heard.

shifting topics here but am I the only one that thinks Ax may come back and want a more aggressive setlist due to the AC/DC experience? More Guns...less Roses?

I don't expect any real changes outside what we heard in the first few shows.

Which is fine by me.  Thought the setlists were strong.

Same here.  Though, the addition of "Perfect Crime" seems more doable than ever now with his kick ass vocal power of late.

Yeah, I always poo-pooed it.  Not so sure now.

My Michelle? Perfect Crime? IRS? One more rocker, one less ballad...and I love Guns ballads but I could drop one for another ball buster.

Would gladly swap out 'This I Love' for any of those.

Yeah, I agree.
I would drop any ballad for songs like Don't Damn Me, Bad Apples, Perfect Crime, Locomotive...I swear I wouldn't complain about anything ever again.  ::)

For me it would be ideal if they drop TIL and they add Perfect Crime, Don't Damn Me, Pretty Tied Up or Locomotive  :smoking:

Pretty Tied Up would certainly be swell.  : ok:

I take it that you are not a romantic. :hihi:

If they just played Double Talkin' Jive over and over again for two hours I could totally live with that  :hihi:

If Axl can do the vocals for Coma, why not do it for Don't Damn Me? I would love to hear this song played live at least once.

Of all the songs they have played live to this day, the only one I miss is Locomotive. They really should play it

+1 to this. seriously, that song is a fucking monster that needs to be back!

Pretty tied up would be a good one as well

'Coma' has a lot of stops, tempo changes, and rest spots.

'Don't Damn Me' is basically a sprint.

And let's see Axl do the 'Coma' outro out of the chair first, at the least.

Everybody wants to see the handful of songs that have rarely been played over the years... shocking...  :)

Pretty Tied Up and Bad Obsession would top the list of those for me. I was ecstatic that DTJ was brought back...but not totally shocked since Slash had been playing it often recently with Myles.

They've uploaded the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSSJIgSyoQo


/jarmo

It seems that we can at least agree on that!
Please, Fernando, Jarmo, if the band needs some suggestions from the fans, here they are. We'd be the happiest fans in the world. You are very welcome.  :hihi:

Topic:

is it just me or is the guy on left annoying? what's he saying in min 28:14? babbling, interrupting, not looking at your discussion partner? he comes off a bit self-important.

Comes off real obnoxious.

That was awesome to watch  :peace:

The guy conducting the interview is pretty rude to the audience & Axl at times.

It's obvious to us why Axl wishes he'd set up his own label in order to have more artistic freedom when it comes to releasing work "now". He has zero knowledge of the band it seems. Comes across as a wanker...but I must admit I still quite like him. 😂😂

Also I notice when Axl talks about new material he says something similar to "If future releases feature Slash remains to be seen"..

Seems like it's very much baby steps at the moment.

thanks to ninelivecat at gnrtruth for the transcription:

 ?Um, and I just, I do want to put out more music with Guns n? Roses. And I don?t know if that has to do with Slash or not but underneath the Guns n? Roses thing (name?), and, um, if he and I write something or he wants to play on something that we have, it?s like that would be great.  But I haven?t, it?s kind of, we?re, I?ve been working to get where things are.  This isn?t, the Guns n? Roses reunion isn?t just kind of like by happenchance or whatever...chance?or whatever."

does sort of sound like an unsure answer. maybe they actually don't have things figured out yet.

but the last line makes it seem like it's been in the works for a while.

is the second to last line "But..." referencing new music or the reunion? he goes with I, then we're, than settles on I've. If it was about the reunion, I would think he would have went with we're/we've (him slash and duff whoever else). then again, it's not like he wrote a script, he's just talking, and I'm putting him under a microscope.   

IMO it's about new music. He said "that would be great" refering to write something with him or getting Slash to play on something he already wrote. So the "but..." refers to writing and getting Slash to record something.

Axl seems open and happy to work again with Slash and Duff - writing new stuff and/or having them in the material he already has...but it really looks that they still don't have any plans yet. I think it's great news. At first I didn't get the part about the "writing new stuff".

The "interviewer" is clueless and quite annoying. I noticed Axl wanted to talk about a little longer about some stuff and the guy would cut to the next question. I really hope they talk to a journalist or anyone who can ask good questions. The look on Axl's face sometimes is priceless! Hahahah.

Anyway. Did anyone understand what the guy who mentions the Troubadour promo video said? He asks about the reunion...

that was my impression too.

but then why segway into the this reunion didn't just happen, it was intentional thing?

i know i'm over analyzing it, but i really want to see where the sentences would have gone if his responses went straight through without changing up. it's hard to explain what I mean, but the stuff like "um, and i just, i do want to...". he said he does want to put out music, but he JUST what? i don't think he was going to say "i just want to put out new music". it's like he was going to say something but then left it out and said something else instead. and then the "But I haven't, it's kind of, i've been working to get where things are". He hasn't what? It's kind of what?

i know i'm focusing on such a small part of the interview, but alas, that is obviously where my head is at (new music) when it comes to gnr and has been for a long time.

I think all you can take away from what he said in certainty is,  that IF there is another GNR album it certainly won't be Axl Slash Duff and Richard sitting in a room and banging out new songs from scratch.

Axl is steering the ship as always and if Slash and Duff are agreeable to adding their parts to old songs... then he is happy to have them do so. Hopefully Axl likes something Slash has in storage too and that could become a GNR song as well.

For years I was as desperate as anybody for "CD 2" to come out...

After the second vegas residency and endless Hulk hogan ears ... I was getting antsy...

but right now... I am just too giddy and too excited for this summer... Vegas and Coachella and ACDC... it's all too fucking amazing.

If the album comes in a few years... especially if it comes with the meat n potatoes... all the better.

I have kinda given up on a new album. The track record of album releases over a 31 year period speaks for itself.....not angry about it or anything...just done fretting over something I can't control. :P

Agreed.

Far too excited about the tour than I am some album that sounds like the very definition of theoretical.

Ha, you are overanalyzing it indeed. :hihi:

Think about how he was informally talking. He was like, speaking his mind, and sometimes you, like, talk like this. :P

And again, I think he was talking about new music when he said "I haven't". It's like, the priority was "to get where things are" now, meaning the whole regrouping and major tours. Maybe he's even talking about friendship, I dunno.

Maybe the negotiation with the record company now could be much easier with the old guys back.

I would be tempted to agree.

Yet we theorized that the record company was not happy with Axl's total MIA act at the time of release, right?  And how they weren't about to go down that road again, unless it was behind a Guns N' Roses product composed of members the public had actually heard of, and could be counted on to do their part to help it succeed.

That was the theory, right?

Well, what about this U.S. tour has really given them fresh hope on that front?  Ain't like the return of "the old guys" led to that much of a change in promo strategy.

The GNR Twitter is actually about the band, and less about Axl's cats and mistreated giraffes, which is good. 

But other that that?

No offense to Trunk or Kimmel, but this "interview" is the most revealing interaction with Axl since the Dexter message board posts from years ago. While I think we'll see a DVD from the GN'R reunion tour, I almost think the chances of us getting an AC/DC album with Axl are greater than the chances of another GN'R album. No matter what happens, we'll always have this great Axl interview. It's too bad the interviewer was a total ass, but at least Axl still seemed to be enjoying himself.

This.  I've been waving the banner for the next album for YEARS, but with everything going on now, it just wouldn't feel right if Slash and Duff weren't on at least a good handful of tracks, if not all of them.  However long they need to accomplish that, I'm all for it.  I'm still just so happy they're back together and touring in such a massive way.  Good times.

Well, Axl pretty much said he doesn't care if they are on the album or not. It was a bold comment that worries me a bit on multiple fronts.

Had the same reaction.

I don't think he doesn't care. I'm sure he knows how much Slash and Duff can add to his songs, and he said he would like to have them, but it seems they haven't discussed the matter and he doesn't know if they want to be part of it. He even mentions the possibility of them writing stuff.
It's pretty clear to me how they're getting along and are enjoying playing together again.
But one thing hasn't changed: he sees GNR as his band and he will release the album with or without them.

On one hand, I get it.  You work hard on getting tracks to a certain place with a certain group of players, and then the reunion materializes. Do you scrap all of it, and start from scratch?  Based on his statements here, no he's not.  So if you already have a bunch of tracks together, do you include them on some of those tracks? If so, which tracks would best suit their style(s)?  Do they even have an interest in playing on these tracks?  Not super easy to sift through all of that.  

He seems open to having them on it, but apparently it's not a deal breaker for him.  I get that.  But like I said, I would certainly hope they appear on at least a few key tracks.

+1

His stance is pretty classic post-breakup Axl. Defiant and proud, only now with a sliver of amicable light. A sliver. Overall what you can read between the lines is that the reunion mostly about increasing cash flow.

Probably not worth fretting over too, too much.

He'll be touring the rest of this year between GNR & AC/DC.  And we assume he'll tour a lot of next year with GNR.

So now you are into 2018.  Some of these songs will be pushing 20 years old, and the people responsible for their creation gone for 15 years.

Combine all that with Axl's legendary work ethic and productivity, it's a pretty implausible argument he is going to go balls to the wall to get this stuff out there.

As a betting man, I think there is another tour with Slash and Duff before there is some new album.

Yes. In this regard I wouldn't give a fuck about a new album. Sounds like he'd be happy but if they don't want to play on songs, he couldnt care less.  :-\ Play them shows, we will be happy and call it quits after that.

If he'd/he's psyched about working with Slash and Duff more power to him. Write something from the scratch with some CD stuff. that would be alright. I hope Slash and Duff dont let themself be treated like some random, exchangeable musicians. They def don't need that.

Great interview.  One of the main things I got out of this and I have said it all along is that this is not a reunion so much as it is Slash and Duff rejoining what is currently happening.  Several things Axl said alluded to that, especially the parts pertaining to new music and the possibility of Slash or Duff not being on some of it.  I know some argued over semantics of this being a typical reunion type thing, and why there was no Steven or Izzy or whatever , but it is hard to argue after that interview.  This is clearly the band moving forward in 2016 not trying to recreate something from 1987.

You guys are over analyzing it too. Maybe he didn't want to step ahead and talk on behalf of Slash and Duff about something they may not be so sure yet. Did you ever think that maybe they are not interested in recording over the CD-era material? Or maybe they just didn't sit and talk seriously about it.

That's how I see it too.

I have to agree with this. You can't speak on someone else's behalf when that person isn't there.  People are overanalyzing. Lets take one step at a time. In a week and half, the tour begins. Let's enjoy that! It's been 24 years since I last saw these guys TOGETHER!

i think a second world tour makes more sense after a new album. it gives them a good reason to tour again. now they don't really need it. more people want to see them live with slash and duff than there are people that are dying for new music. but after they hit the world once they may (or may not) lose some steam, and a new album may reinvigorate the hype.

he said he'd like to keep this configuration going for a while, i think. and i'm sure slash and duff were already aware that they may not be on the next album before they signed up to rejoin guns. i'm sure they talked about that stuff. so even if they aren't on it, they'd likely have to tour it anyway. so they may as well play on it.

i think if they were disgusted with the prospect, they wouldn't have signed up for it. and who knows, maybe axl's stuff blew their minds. he did say they liked it, right? it was said that it's a further departure from afd than cd, but also that it was meaner, darker, (heavier?)? i think people will respond to that more positively than they did to the tone of cd. i'd even bet on it.

voodoo child is right, but what can i say, i'm having fun.

Yes. I don't know how much time they've had recently to discuss anything relating to those recordings with rehearsals, April shows, AC/DC's European tour and the upcoming GN'R summer tour...
I might be wrong, but judging by the recent activity, I'd assume that GN'R is focused on the tour...



It's less than that, a week! :D


/jarmo

huh, interesting that you say they may not have discussed it yet. i figured that was something they would have spoken about already.

fair enough

yep.....good post.

My understanding is that they got together for the tour. At some moment Axl showed them his songs...and this fact alone, IMO, shows that he's interested in their opinions and working with them. They have a stadium world tour coming that will extend until next year. Then there's also ACDC, Slash's and Duff's other commitments. As Axl said, they did not speak for 19 years, so they're probably still reforming their relationship and getting to know each other again. I think if there is any album in the future it will come when they have time to talk about it etc, not between rehearsals for a world tour, running from one city to another. But who knows?!?

Exactly. And they may had agreed to not really work in something new untill after at least Coachella, as they are still working out how things goes. It's like you can't ask your girlfriend/boyfriend to marry you after only a couple of dates, even if it's an old ex-girl/boyfriend. :P

No, that's not what I meant.  Axl said they liked the stuff he played them.

I said that maybe the focus isn't on whether or not, or when, they'll play on some of the songs at this moment.
Maybe the focus is on the shows. And that's why Axl didn't make any kind of promise about it.




/jarmo

Pure speculation here, but I think that Slash and Duff willing to play CD songs and even add their own spin (noted on Better and Chinese) speaks tons about if they want to work in new stuff.

Here I transcribed part of the interview (still taking me very long to watch everything, that guy is painfully bad at conducting an interview and the audio is still bad) that I really liked. I guess that adds more into the whole Slash and Duff approach on new stuff. Also, it answers some questions people asked in that other thread.

Keep in mind that English is not my 1st language. It's around the 34:00 mark.

Hum.. I'm a big fan of the previous lineup before getting back with Slash and Duff, and we did a lot of work with that, our drummer, Frank, Dizzy and Richard… And, we know, to Slash's credit, what I gotta say is.. he and Duff.. Like, Duff have played with the last line up a few shows and came in and play the way we did the songs. And then going in to getting ready to Vegas and Coachella, they all chosed to uh.. they just worked very hard, and Duff and Slash came in and worked very hard with Frank on the rhythm 'cause that's how they like to work, with the drummer, and the drummer has a relationship Richard, that works really good, they like Richard, everybody like each other.

I didn't have to tell Slash anything about embracing the.. working on Chinese Democracy songs, or how to play them, he just embraced them, worked really hard. And I had no idea how they were gonna sound, I never heard him play in certain ways, because the last times we talked he was saying "I dont wanna work that hard" than that's that. For him to take on Buckethead or Bumblehead's part… Bumblehead [lol].. Bucketfoot.. Buckethead and Bumblefoots parts and just step to on its own, and work at it, and like it, and enjoy it, that helped a lot, so they worked really good on rehearsals together, so, (inaudible)..

Also, another interesting tidbit that I didn't see people talking yet.. Someone asked him if there's any new subject he would like to write about in his songs. Here's his answer (around 40:30):

I havent really given that any thought, I mean, I think its all kinda like right in the back of your head about how you're gonna tackle this.. songs and stuff. So part of me feels like Im happy that I didnt write things a year ago to something because I feel like where Im gonna go at now would be stronger.

Just wanted to say that, before I watched the video, just reading what people wrote about the event, I got the impression that he was being kinda agressive towards Slash, saying that he didn't want to work hard on the songs, the thing about the book, the new album etc. But when I watched the whole thing I could see that he's actualy speaking very light-hearted, smilling, making jokes and the things he said, out of context, look COMPLETELY different.
Also as the sound from the first video is really bad, some people got what he said completely wrong.

I agree!  : ok: :beer:

Perhaps it's more of a business relationship now and the three of the haven't really spent all that much time together?

No real time to play songs and tell stories

If that's true

There is nothing wrong with it. 

What ever is working is working.   

I would just love to see some current pictures of the three of them. A current interview with the three of them.  Or stories about stiff the three of them have recently did. Etc...

oh ok, gotcha. thanks jarm.

yeah, its like when you misinterpret someone's text or email and get offended by what they say when if it was in person it would have come off as a light joke.


agreed

interesting. so that may pertain to the new new stuff. id guess the lyrics from what would have been the second half of cd were already laid down.

just how much material does this guy have laying around, including the stuff he hasnt even put lyrics to yet? i wonder at what rate the band puts out material for him/eachother to work on? there could be well over 100 could be would be gnr songs that have come and gone over the years.

Are we sure that he was talking about CD2 stuff? Maybe its new new material. :)

Also there's no black or white in this case. He may have a 15 year old unreleased song on his vault, but missing only *some* lyrics, not all. Maybe a bridge, a chorus.. I dunno.

yeah, thats what i meant by new new material.

now that's the kind of story i'd like to hear... "i couldn't figure out what to write for the second verse of __ for years, but then i had so and so experience and the words just came to me."