Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Tito Ortiz defeated Vitor Belfort tonight in an unbelievable match!

Tito is back baby!!!!!!!!

anyone else watch the UFC!!!

I watch a little, but a guy from my highschool is on that Ultimate Fighter TV Show on SPIKE

I would watch it if it was on TV in the UK.

which one is he? i love that show


Dude that sucks u dont get it in the UK, are u sure u cant get it on PPV

its the best thing in the world to get on PPV

last nights card was unbelievable.

Last nights UFC was awesome ,well worth the money.

Now I can?t wait to April 16, Liddell vs Couture

dude i hate chuck lidell

he is such a hater and i thought it was hilarious when Tito talked shit about him and he came in the ring

i cant believe one judge gave belfort the decision

Tito clearly won that fight pretty easily i thought.


couture will destroy chuck though
and i dont know why Shamrock was running his mouth, Tito beat him worse than ive ever seen anyone get beat in the 10 years ive been watching the UFC.

i cant wait till Frank Mir comes back, did u see when he broke Tim Sylvia's arm? that was some nasty shit.

Phil Baroni man, i love that guy but what was he thinking?

he beat his opponent for 3 rounds and then got caught in a bullshit guillotine choke.

Chuck gets on my nerves  to. Which is going to make the 16th of April all the more enjoyable when Couture kicks hiss ass again .

I pray to God Ken isn?t thinking about fighting  Tito again ,if it happens it going to be a slaughter again.


Frank Mir is is a fucking hell off a fighter ,that Sylvia's arm break was some nasty shit.



Phil Baroni fight was crazy. He shouldn?t have tried to play it safe cause it came back and bit him on the ass

Alex Karalexis

There are some awsome fighters in the UFC.

But there will always be only one #1.

And that's Royce Gracie.

Period.

Royce gracie wouldnt stand a chance in today's UFC

Royce was awesome cause at that time he was one of the few UFC guys who knew grappling

now everyone is just as good at it as he is.

if he fought in the UFC right now he wouldnt dominate or beat the top guys.

Is Bob Sapp still in the UFC? Just curious, cause he's the only guy I know in this crazy sport.

Take my comment back, it was on Bravo and Bravo +1 Sunday night. Before it was on Setatna? Sports PPV channel.

I checked out the UFC #51 on Bravo on sunday , kinda a step into the unknown for me. I liked that Evan Tanner guy. I only had heard of Ken Shamrock and Tank Abbott before but im interested in seeing another card.


Any event you would recommend to me?

Well right now, Gracie isn't at his prime anymore.

But back in the day?? Hell yes!

Remember Ken Shamrock?? Shamrock was probably still better technically, as well as just as big physically, than most or all of the top guys in the UFC today.

And Royce beat him in their first match with an ankle-lock.

Their second match was a draw, and Shamrock got a good punch in on Gracie's face, but even Shamrock couldn't submit him...even though he would later act like he did.

Bottom line, even a lot of these grapplers still rely heavily on their size and strength.

None of that was ever a factor for Gracie.? He'd just beat 'em with sheer technique.

did u see the brutal beating Tito Ortiz gave Ken Shamrock when they fought?

someone like Randy Courture would have no problems with Royce Gracie


all of em are good evolution

i recommend watching Tito Ortiz,chuck lidell,randy courture,vitor belfort

theres one called the ultimate ultimate which features Tank Abbott and some of his unbelievable battles

rent any of em, all are exciting.

Royce Gracie was good in his day,but the UFC has changed to much since then . Now wvwebody is almost a mat expert .Plus Gracie could just sit their on the ground a wait for they guy to make an mistake cause the refere will stand their ass?s up.

I love UFC is Ken Shamrock still fighting and is there anywhere that it comes on normal TV cuz it costs too much on PPV.

My favorite fighter maurice smith I went to the UFC where he fought Mark colemen or someone like that I was only 8 or 9

Fucking love UFC....been downloading loads of old matches...been watching bravo as well for the reruns they have.
Belfort has such fast hard hands..
Liddel is a lunatic.(and scares me)
Ortiz is my personal current fave....The Orginal Huntington Beach Bad Boy!

Id love to see Ortiz take on Liddell again.

Also bring back David "Tank" Abbott, he had a punch on him...getting on a bit now though.

Frank Shamrock, wheres he?

Also...Whoever asked about Bob Sapp??...i dont think  he did many UFC if any matches, he did a few PRIDE matches and as far as im aware hes still in Japan Wrestling and doing K1.
You can download his match with Kimo(a UFC legend in his own right) from most P2P networks, from Japan...its very controversial though but there are some MASSIVE punches from both!

Bob Sapp is a K1 fighter, he's a huge dude but has no chin at all, basically he sucks

Frank Shamrock i have no idea


they brought Tank back for a few fights and he got destroyed in 2 of em by cabbage and Kimo, i think he won his 3rd and final fight, i cant really remember, but he is finished as well.

the sport has evolved way too much for guys like Tank Abbott, guys know how to shoot for take downs now without taking punishment so he couldnt compete against the top heavyweights.

the next event will feature Lidell vs Courture, the winner will fight Tito Ortiz

if anyone watches the Ultimate FIghter TV show we can discuss that here also.

if anyone gets FoxSportsNet they show UFC matches from past events for free on Sundays, check your listings if u get FoxSportsNet

I'm actually going out to Vegas for the Live Final of "The Ultimate Fighter"
The main events are the middleweight and light heavyweight finals, but I think all fighters from the show are participating.

If I can take that extended time off I am staying for UFC 52 which is the next weekend.

I can't wait..........

the dude from your high school, he lost to Forrest last week didnt he?

man that will be awesome!

that is one of the best tv shows around, i cant believe a bigger network didnt pick it up

no the guy from my highschool is the other Alex, he lost to Diego in the 4th episode.

I would love to see what a larger network could have done with it, as far as production value.

Thats still great, Diego will more than likely win the entire thing, so definitely no shame in that.

Just been watching some UFC here in the UK tonight great stuff seeing B.J Penn fighting, it's been so long since i'd seen it i'd forgotten how good he was.  For all UK residents they advertised next weekend as UFC weekend on Bravo.

so who wathed the finally of the Ultimate fighter?


The Forrest Griffin vs.  Stephan Bonnar was a fucking slug fest.

Hell yeah dude!

what a fuckin fight!

I thought Forrest won and it was great they gave both those guys contracts.


the striking was pretty much even, maybe a slight nod to Stephan however Forrest had more take downs, reversed Stephan's only take down, was the stronger fighter, everytime they locked up Forrest slung him wherever he wanted

also Forrest was the ring general as he got Stephan *who is a much better technical grappler* to fight his kind of fight.

Kenny Florian had no business bein in the finals, he got lucky over Chris Leben with that cut and got destroyed by Diego Sanchez

Ken Shamrock, had he kept his balance wouldve won over Franklin


Are u watching UFC on PPV saturday?

Frank Trigg vs Matt Hughes will be a war plus Randy Courture vs Chuck Liddell will be one for the ages.

dude hell yeah I'm watching the ppv this saturday


Kenny Florianwas really out of place taken on Diego Sanchez, but I was exspecting that to happen .


Frank Trigg vs Matt Hughesis going to be a war that I'm vere much looking fowarded to watching .


I hope that Randy Courture kicks  Chuck Liddell's ass. but I think it willl be a pretty good fight.


I think we will see a  Forrest Griffin vs.  Stephan Bonnar rematch down the line hopefully

Hmmm....I agree that both Forrest and Stephan deserved contracts after the fight but I don't think either of them, or Diego for that matter, will be major sensations in the UFC.? They might have been the best from that group in the series but, sooner or later, I think all three will have their asses handed to them in the octagon.?

I don't know what Shamrock was thinking.? Being "multi-dimensional" in your fighting is all fine and good but what he did was just stupid.? Ken Shamrock throwing a high kick?? Give me a break.? Franklin didn't throw him off his game, Shamrock just chose to abandon it.

And I don't care what Mr. Fear Factor Joe Rogan says.? The Shamrock of ten years ago was beating guys better than Franklin with relative ease.  He also would have finished a guy like Franklin with that first ankle lock!

there is some speculation around the fight world that Shamrock "Did the job" so to speak
he fought very stupid, not like Ken SHamrock normally would fight.


Forrest and Stephan will be fighting the chuck liddells,Tito Ortiz's and Randy courture's

they have no chance against those guys.

Diego has a better chance because he is lighter and will fight lesser comp at 185 than stephan and forrest will face at 205

hopefully they will join some good teams and get a lot better

Nate Quarry, the dude from the show who got injured won an undercard fight in just over a minute and has been helping Randy Courture train for Chuck

Nate wouldve won the middleweight easily had he not got injured. he can do it all and u will see him in the UFC. I guarantee it.

What do you mean by "do the job?"

As in Shamrock intentionally threw the fight?   ???   

I don't know, that would be tough to believe.  He doesn't like to lose.  Under any circumstances.

i dont believe it, but a lot of people are speculating on a lot of fighting websites.

Shamrock throwing a kick like that just isnt SHamrock and he got that ankle/heel lock and Franklin got out, usually if Shamrock gets your leg its over.

I think Ken should keep fighting, i mean he beat himself that fight, Franklin got lucky, had shamrock not fell down he wouldve won.

see Shamrock will always be a draw and a legend but by Franklin winning he is now elevated up the ranks and will now be a more known and bankable fighter.

Nate was pretty overpowering last Saturday, but the most dominating preformance was Swick... he won in like 30 seconds over Alex S.

I think Swick and Quarry have the best shot at being successfull middleweights in the UFC, I think Diego and Koscheck should consider cutting to 170 (they both claimed they can on saturday)

I agree, at 170 they would be tough however 170 isnt really a glammer division

at 185 they'd have to fight the Phil Baroni's, Evan tanner's and Robbe lawler's of the UFC. they arent good enough strikers but i think Diego could do ok.

josh Koscheck is an amazing wrestling and takedown specialist. if he will train and get a little better with submissions and strikes, i think he'd be very dangerous.

dont underestimate Diego Sanchez, he looked very very impressive.

Of course they arent gonna win Titles in their first fights but give them a year or so training properly with a good team and i think they will be right there.

if they get to 170, they have Matt Hughes,Frank Trigg and guys like that, i think Hughes is better than any of the 185 pound guys by far.

I wish we had this show on British TV.
We just get rehashed old UFC programmes...however we are getting UFC 52 a couple fo days after it airs live which is cool. Plus we dont have to pay for it!

U are lucky!

watch it!

Randy Couture vs Chuck Liddell the rematch is gonna be great

also a great rematch with Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg.

I ran into this a week or so and I was like  :o  I can't believe people really do that!!

Diego looks good, but he fought 3 people who weren't fighting their natural weight (Alex K. (170) Josh Rafferty (170) Kenny Florian (155)) and Josh Koscheck who hasn't harnessed his striking (although he looked real good last saturday in Vegas)

We didn't see the best fighter on the show Compete (Nate Quarry) and Mike Swick fought a weight class up from his natural weight (185).

Although Hughes is arguably better than anyone at 185, Diego and Koscheck would be that much stronger than the competition if they cut weight down. If you see diego in person he has alot of room to cut wieght.

I got 7 out of 8 fights correct tonight in my predictions including Chuck Liddell over Randy courture, chuck knocked his ass out!


only fight i missed was Patrick Cote vs whoever he fought, Cote had him but screwed it all up.

You bastard....its being shown tonight in he UK...

 last night ppv was good their were some really good fights.


Matt Hughes pound for pound is probably the best fighter in the UFC.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!

the other 7 fights are awesome and the main event is great

its still worth watchin trust me!


The Matt Hughes vs Frank Trigg match

and George ST Pierre vs Jason Miller is very brutal and interesting.

Good event...Enjoyed it a lot.
Cant say im suprised that Chuck knocked out Randy.
I really cant say anyone challenging Chuck at the moment in Light Heavy...he has such quick and heavy hands.
I know Randy did it last time but he wasnt prepared.
Tito seems to be past his best which is strange but ive seen him lose more than win recently and for Tito to win against Chuck he needs to Ground and Pound.

Who?

 :hihi: I actually know what you guys are talking about! That doesn't happen for me much when this sort of sport is being discussed. My friend who I'm living with right now watches UFC quite a lot, and I watch it with him. I gotta say I find it really boring sometimes, because they always just seem to end up on the floor hugging each other, but it's pretty cool. The bright lights and loud entrances to the ring/cage/thing annoy me though. The glamour makes it lose its edge and grittiness. I like the fat guys, they're funny.

By the way, I'm in the UK and we do get it. I think it's on Bravo that I watch it.

TJ, agreed with you about when they are hugging(or "In the guard") but that has its attributes especially when you get submission specialists actually going for it on the Ground...If you get to watch UFC 52...watch the Matt Hughes fight against Trigg...awesome submission wrestling and definately the fight of the PPV.

When you get two strikers(Fighters who stand and punch and kick) it can certainly be explosive...

Check out

Vitor Belfot VS David "Tank" Abbott

And pretty much any Chuck Liddell Bouts.

Id like to see Abbot Vs Liddell although Abbott is slightly past it now!

UFC sucked back in the old days when guys would lay on top of each other for 15 minutes, but now if there is no action the ref stands em up.

the ground game is the beauty of MMA and if u watch u can learn and really kick someone's ass if u ever get in a fight.

Tito can beat Chuck if he fights his way.

last fight Chuck dared Tito to stand toe to toe which Tito did like an idiot.

last fight Randy stood with Chuck and dominated Chuck on the feet and the ground so Randy got overconfident
if u watched the promos randy said he thinks the fight will go like the first one

thing is Chuck switched his gameplan whereas Randy stayed the same. Chuck caught him and it was over.

Randy got a little to big headed and believin his press clippings

a 3rd fight between these two will be amazing.

The thing fucked Chuck the first time he fought Randy also fucked Tito when he fought Randy in that they bought under estimated Randy.

Tito didn?t learn from watching Chucks fight with Randy and underestimated Randy and got his ass handed to him .

I think Randy vs Chuck 3  would probably be a battle .

But right now I would really love to see Tito and Randy go at it again.

I missed this thread.  I used to be into UFC hardcore, but I dont watch it much anymore.  I actually have met Chuck on numerous occassions.  He is really good friends with one of my good friends.  I used to see him out at the bars all of the time in San Luis Obispo.  Im not sure if he still trains there anymore though.

The Ultimate Fighter is now being shown on UK TV, bravo sky Channel 125 if anyones interested!
Its my favourite reality TV show ever!
Love it!

Yeah I seen it a few times when I've been channel-flicking, never really stop to watch it much though.

Anyone seen much K-1? I saw some the other day, it was really funny. First they had a really tall and fat man fighting a really small, karate kinda guy, and later on they had an even taller - but not fat - man with blue hair, fighting the small guy. Funny stuff  :hihi: It was the final, and the little guy really went for it. Not enough to win, but enough to force an extra round after the usual amount had been fought.

UFC 53 is this Saturday June 4th, I cant wait to see it. here is the complete card for UFC 53 Heavy Hitters


Interim Heavweight Championship
Andrei Arlovski vs. Justin Eilers

Middleweight Championship
Evan Tanner vs. Rich Franklin

Welterweight Bouts
Matt Serra vs. Karo Parisyan
Nick Diaz vs. Koji Oishi

Middleweight Bouts
David Louiseau vs. Charles McCarthy
Nathan Quarry vs. Shonie Carter

Light Heavyweight Bout
Forrest Griffin vs. Bill Mahood

Heavyweight Bout
Paul Buentello vs. Kevin Jordan


Forrest and Nate from the ultimate fighter are on the card, Nate wouldve won over Diego Sanchez in my opinion had he not got injured.

Evan Tanner vs Rich Franklin is the huge matchup on this card. I would like to see Franklin win the belt.

Andrei Arlovski should knock out Justin Eilers, Arlovski is a bad motherfucker.

Man I'm looking forward to watching this .

Me too!

However i saw Ailers in action last night, and he won with a 25 second knockout in the first round after a brute of a right hand.
It was his first UFC bout.
I wouldnt expect him to be a roll over.

UFC 53 was great! Great win for Franklin, but Tanner showed once again he can really take alot of damage, shame the main event did not last longer Eilers would never of won but he was unlucky to lose how he did proper shit how his leg fucked up.  On a couple of sidenotes it was good to see Mick Foley briefly interviewed, funny how he said if he was fighting Andrei Arlovski he'd climb out of the Octagon and run...i'd do the same thing, i also noticed while they interviewed Chuck Liddel they had Velvet Revolver's Headspace playing in the background.

Dude Rich Franklin is a beast, I dont know if anyone can beat this guy.

Nate and Forrest looked impressive last night in their debuts.

Andrei Arlovski vs Frank Mir will be a fucking war, Arlovski looks indestructable though.

Matt Serra shouldve won but he got too cocky and blew it.

that dude named "The Crow" was ok with his spinning back kick that crushed that dudes ribs.

Forrest did look impressive, as far as i remember they did not show Nate in a fight, saw him in the crowd but not in any match...weird.

Man I didn't get to watch this .


My cable box went out about an hour before it started. :rant:

Nate fought on the undercard which they showed after the Arlovski fight, if u went to bed or turned it off after the main even u missed it. Nate destroyed that dude.


U didnt miss much Timothy, wasnt a great event.

UFC i think have dropped the ball somewhat, they had so much momentum from that TV show but have put on back to back just ok shows

they shouldve really loaded the cards up and capitalized on the TV show.

UFC 54

Randy Courture is fighting Mike VanArsdale and Chuck Liddell is defending his belt against the man who gave him his first defeat Jeremy Horn, that is in August sometime, Ill get the exact date, its the 24th or somewhere through there.

Just shows Bravo's billing of the event as "Live" was a pile of shit, as i didnt see the Nate fight either!
However much props for them for showcasing the quickest emerging sport in the UK. Im glad they picked up the ball that Sky dropped, dont think my evenings would be the same without my UFC fix...

The David Louiseau finish was the best finish i have seen for sometime in the UFC.

Nasty...there had to be a few broken ribs there.

wow, didnt find this cool topic earlier. UFC kicks ass!!!

http://www.ufc.tv/

too bad we cant catch the tv broadcasts in europe that much. but i have a lot old school UFC tapes from the 90s? \m/

They have only recently started broadcasting on TV in America with Spike TV, before that it was all PPV.

I just hope that we get the the SPIKE TV show on English TV.

Just one reason i love UFC so much

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From UFC 1.

Gary Goodridge beating the living hell outta Paul Herrera!

Brutal stuff!

UFC ANNOUNCES COACHES FOR SECOND SEASON OF THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER?

Hughes, Winner Of June 4 Tanner-Franklin Fight To Star In Hit Reality Series On Spike TV

Las Vegas, NV--UFC welterweight champion Matt Hughes has been selected to be one of the coaches for the second season of Spike TV?s hit reality series The Ultimate Fighter?, while the second coaching spot will be decided Saturday inside the Octagon? at UFC 53: Heavy Hitters, UFC President Dana White announced today.

Not only will the middleweight belt be on the line between Evan Tanner and Rich Franklin at UFC 53, but the winner will also become the coach opposite Hughes on The Ultimate Fighter.

?Matt Hughes is a great champion of the UFC and will be an outstanding coach on The Ultimate Fighter,? said White, who also is featured on the series. ?There?s even more at stake now in the Tanner-Franklin fight. I?m excited to find out who will emerge as the new middleweight champion and as our second coach on the show.?

The Ultimate Fighter?s second season is scheduled to tape this summer in Las Vegas and will premiere on August 22, 2005 on Spike TV.

Yeah old news Timothy my friend...UFC 53 was 2 weeks ago now, Franklin beat Tanner(Smashed his face to a pulp...see www.sherdog.com (http://www.sherdog.com)).

So therefore Franklin is the next coach! (Hes awesome)

It is not yet known whether Franklin will fight Hughes as they are such good friends, the reason behind this is that the two coaches will fight at the end of the series, like Liddel and Couture did at the end of the first series.

Use the link above if you like MMA* , theres a good forum on there with some interesting MMA topics, the people in there are complete idiots as you will see, good read nevertheless.
Also if you have a favourite MMA fighter, whether it be in UFC or Pride, make use of their Fight Finder search facility they have, if anyones had an MMA match. it will be on there along with the Result and the event!

Awesome site!

* MMA = Mixed Martial Arts.

That is a great site Arron

Rich Franklin will be very entertaining on the show

they have 2 more seasons to go

I can't wait, I love that show

I still miss the Tough Enough series the WWE had, i dont know why they quit showing that on MTV.
'
I loved it.

Thanks D, hope you have better luck drawing your testicles you skinny runt! :P

Reet, gotta go now, K-1 is on the TV, its awesome, not MMA action but brutal all the same.

See Bob Sapp for downloads, particularly Vs Kimo and also Mirko CroCop. hes a big nasty bastard, nearly as big as D!

that sit eis cool Arron .

Bob Sapp was gonna fight Mike Tyson

Tyson would beat him in a straight up boxing match, Sapp doesnt have much of a chin.

Anybody watch the show tonight?

Hell yeah ,it kicked ass

ATTENTION, SPOILERS FOR TONIGHTS ULTIMATE FIGHT NIGHT!!!!!!!!! BE WARNED


















Chris Leben was impressive beating Patrick Cote, Cote went the distance losing a decision to Tito Ortiz, so he faced nice competition

Josh Koshcheck continues to improve, this guy has a striking game now to go along with his excellent wrestling abilities, he could be tough to beat.

Stephan Bonner didnt impress me at all, Sam Hoggert fought an amazing fight and I thought he at least won the 2nd round but the judges arent gonna give him anything over a guy who is signed, Bonner won the fight but wasnt impressive in my eyes.

Main event sucked, very very boring

Mike Swick looked incredible, his hands are lightning!


Cant wait till august 20th, Jeremy Horn can beat Chuck Liddell again, and Mike Van Arsdale is a formidable opponent for Randy Couture

is gonna be an excellent night of fights!

Chris Leben was really  impressive.


 Koshcheckdoes continue to improve like you said D.


Stephan Bonnerwas some work to do but he could be a good fighter.


What was up with the Nate Fight?

The two undercard fights that werent show live are going to be show on the replay (thursday 11:05 est on SPIKE)

Fans in attendence say the Florian v. Karalexis fight was the best of the night, turned into a griffin v. bonner like war.
That fight is said to be replacing the main event on the replay, I'd check it out if I were you.

but he looks terrible in the octagon, he just looks untrained (but he is very good I don't mean to take anything away from him)

U gotta understand something though

out of all the Ultimate Fighters including Forrest Griffin

Chris leben fought and defeated the toughest opponent

Cote went the distance with  Tito Ortiz

the other Ultimate Fighters have fought no bodies so far.

So Leben needs more work but part of that was due to he fighting an amazing opponent.



Nate hit the guy on the mat and the guy wasnt defending himself, the ref stopped it a little too soon but that guy was beat anyway.

Yeah I see what your talking about with the Nate fight D.


Leben does need some work on his game but he seem like he is going to really work on fixing the hole he has.SO I think with in the next 3 to 4 years he could be a really top noth fighter.

I hate Chris Leben's Marco Ruas Toe Stomping

it is just so fucking gay looking.

I will check that fight out for sure, the main event of the live event sucked so bad, so im looking forward to that match

I just hope kenny Florian is better than what he was in that ultimate fighter finale.

Kenny really improved his stand up, and I'm told (was issed that I didn't go out to Vegas for this one) he put on a Muay Tai clinic in the first round.

Link I said at the end of my last post, I'm not try ing to say Leben is bad, he did beat the best opponent of the TUF Fighters, but he just looks ugly. He is awkward to watch, but I wouldn't want to fight him :)

I hate Leben's toe stomps, but he impressed me, i still think Nate Quarry or Josh Koshcheck will be the best fighters to come out of TUF.


ok go to this link and vote on Saturday's fights.

People think George St Pierre will beat Frank Trigg, those people are crazy!

http://www.ufc.tv/fightPoll/fightPoll.asp

Also dont forget

THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER SEASON 2 DEBUTS MONDAY NIGHT AT 11:05PM EASTERN DONT FORGET TO WATCH, HEAVYWEIGHTS AND WELTERWEIGHTS, SHOULD BE AWESOME!

UFC 54 FIGHT CARD

August 20th - 10:00 PM
UFC 54: Boiling Point - pay per view
Chuck Liddell vs. Jeremy Horn
Randy Couture vs. Mike Van Arsdale
Diego Sanchez vs. Brian Gassaway
Frank Trigg vs. Georges St. Pierre
Tim Sylvia vs. Tra Telligman
Matt Lindland vs. Joe Doerksen
Travis Lutter vs. Trevor Prangley
James Irvin vs. Terry Martin


my predictions

Terry Martin
Travis Lutter
Matt lindland
Tim Sylvia
Frank Trigg
Diego Sanchez
Randy Courture
Jeremy Horn in an upset.

predictions

Terry Martin
Travis Lutter
Matt lindland
Tim Sylvia
Frank Trigg
Diego Sanchez
Randy Courture


Chuck Liddell vs. Jeremy HornI haven''t decide yet he I think is winning this one.



should ber a pretty fuckin good fight night.

what did evrybody think of the ppv?

It was ok, really no standout matches, everything went as expected

I was for Jeremy Horn but I knew he didnt have a chance, I just utterly despise Chuck Liddell.

Tim Sylvia's knockout kick to Tellagman's head was brutal!


ok event, Van Arsdale surprised me, Horn was a tough bastard but overall it wasnt one of the best.

Cant wait for the ultimate fighter 2 monday night after Raw. they got some big guys on there this time.

Jeremy Horn showed a lot of heart .


Sylvia's kick to Tellagman's head was pretty  brutal.

Courture needs to quiet getting hit in the face so much.

Frank Trigg needs some work on the rear neaked chock de

Some friends of mine said Diego Sanchezwas impressive ,but He really didn't inpress me too much.


It was a pretty decnet show but not the best I have seen from the UFC

I honestly forgot how awesome George St Pierre was,

Diego didnt impress me either, he had so many chances to end that fight and couldnt put him away.

Randy didnt impress me at all, he is lookin old now, his reflexes arent as sharp anymore.

Did no one see Terry Martin get knocked out with the flying knee?
Brutal!

To be knocked out like that is interesting

If that guy throws that knee 100 times he wouldnt land it like that again, it was more luck then anything else.


The Ultimate Fighter 2 sucked last night, those guys are bitches

the dudes on season 1 were great, these guys are loud mouthed pussies.

the one guy that lost all that weight and only need to lose like five more punds to fight was a bitch .

That guy was a fuckin idiot.  5 pounds to go?  I am impressed with that freak that was concerned with his "chi".  Pointing his bed to the north?  But I was shocked when Matt Hughes (who's the fuckin man) referred to him as the next Diego.

Tonights show was a lot better then last weeks  .


Lets just hope that it keeps getting better.

Neither of the guys tonight could fight for shit

Melvin gave Josh his back 4 times and Josh couldnt finish him

a fighter with any skill wouldve had a rear naked choke and a victory the first time.

Melvin broke his hand but he was a fish out of water on his back so he had no shot for the UFC

Josh is a terrible fighter as well and has no shot at the UFC.

I hope this season gets better.

Im not seeing any personalities or anyone Im interested in rooting for.

Very true D , But compared to last weeks show this weeks was a 100 time better .

That guy who was constently complaining about his shoulder, got on my fucking nervs.

JOe Stevenson looks to have the ultimate Fighter 2 welterweight title locked up, this guy is incredible.


ANyone watching Ultimate Fight Night tomorrow?

its gonna be awesome

Chris Leben is fighting and so is Josh Koscheck

Evan Tanner vs David Louisea will be a good main event, Tanner will kill him but still should be a nice match.

So what do you guy think about this season of UF?

Joe Stevenson is legit.

I cant believe Rashaad keeps beating everyone.
Personally the first season was better, but Lucas and Joe are good fighters.

all the heavyweights are shitty though.

UFC was amazing Saturday, the 2 judges for THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER 3 WILL BE TITO ORTIZ AND KEN SHAMROCK AND THEY WILL FIGHT IN OCTOBER.

Tito will fight Forrest Griffin in April. Tito called Forrest a b level fighter and judgin by Nate Quarry's performance i think those guys are b level fighters, tito will kill forrest, its gonna be brutal how bad he beats forrest.

Agreed.  Tito is a beast and I'm surprised that Dana White let him back into UFC, much less put Tito as a coach on the show.  I can guarantee that season 3 will be better than 1 and 2.  And it's my favorite show on TV!

Ultimate Fight Night Live tomorrow night at 10pm, who is watching? its on free TV *spiketv*



UFC Feb 4th is gonna be amazing, Chuck Liddell vs Randy Courture the 3rd match.

I got 20 bucks bet on Courture, he will win I guarantee it.

How old is this guy?

I think Randy is 41.  A dangerous man, but his age is starting to show.  I can't wait for Fightnight Live tonight. :beer:

Matt Hughes vs Royce Gracie

Signed and ready to go for May


this is gonna be great!!

Matt Hughes vs Royce Gracie is either going to be a hell of a fight  or a one way ass kciking.


 

:hihi: Unlucky :P

I've heard the result of the main event (unfortunately....) since we haven't got the event here in the UK yet, it's on at 10pm tonight and i'm still looking forward to seeing it, i don't know the results from the rest of the card so only the main event is spoiled (partially...) still should be cracking to watch....

.....here's some after the event news.....

After their entertaining battle that opened the show Saturday night at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada, UFC Welterweight contenders Joe "Diesel" Riggs and Nick Diaz came to blows at a local Las Vegas hospital after their fight.

Details are still sketchy, but a number of sources have confirmed the incident. Apparently, the two had some words as they have been all weekend leading up to the fight, which culiminated with Diaz throwing a punch at Riggs. The punch was described as a sucker-punch. Riggs immediately fought back before being seperated by others close by.

Joe Riggs was asked if he wanted to press charges, but declined.

Joe Riggs whipped his ass in the fight. Diaz kept running his mouth during the fight but Riggs beat the shit out of him.

I intelligently called my bet off before the fight and I was happy cause Randy got knocked the fuck out.


I cant believe Frank Mir got beat by some no body.

Seen it now, fairly decent event.....


That's what i thought, commentator thought Diaz had won....dumbass

Good thinking, i mean anybody who is considering retirement if they lose going into a fight isn't that optimistic, you need the killer instinct and all and well he'd clearly lost it, with many fights guys have lost before they even enter the octagon....

Got beat.....Slaughtered would be my description :hihi:

I found it amusing when Jeff Monson choked out Branden Lee Hinkle.  Lee Hinkle looked so pissed after he didn't have a clue what had happened.....

....Brandon Vera looked good as well in his very short bout with that kick to the head followed by the brutal knee on Eilers.

HOw many UFC's have u got to watch Stoned?


they are awesome!

Can't remember really.  We never use to get them as full events.  We just got 1 hour shows with 3 matches from years gone by so i've seen loads of fights from many of the years, i've watched it for a fair bit now i'm really a big fan, having done judo and ground/submission fighting and also a bit of kickboxing i can appreciate it a lot and will often find stuff interesting that others would not like when they're on the ground for a bit cos i can see what they're going for and i know what it's like.  I love UFC though, i used to watching Boxing growing up but that bores the hell out of me these days, UFC is fantastic though!  I really like Phil Baroni, he's the guy that gives that slight 'wrestling' feel to the UFC, the kind of Prima Donna Heel with a Big Mouth :hihi:

Damn! :o  I think we've just found the coaches for Ultimate Fighter 4. :hihi:  I can't wait to see Tito and Ken on UF 3

On the TUF 4 front, I hope they give some serious consideration to bringing back the 155 division. They are leaving out a ton of talent. It would be much better watching a couple of 155 fights than having to watch a couple 250 pounders lean on eachother for three rounds hoping to connect one punch that could end it..... just to earn a spot to get assaulted by Arlovski.

I agree totally Coma, no one is beating Arlovski.

I thought Frank Mir could, but Unless he comes back to where he was before his motorcycle accident, he doesnt have a chance.

About Riggs, how does he manage to cut the weight he does and weigh in at 170 on Friday, but Walk into the ring at 202?? That has got to cause huge problems with his conditioning.

Last Saturday he walked into the ring 3 pounds below Heavyweight. Which sucks for the WW devision because there are guys in there that should be fighting at 155 and are cutting no wieght (not Riggs problem) but as an organization (that was under huge scrutiny) you would think that they would be quicker to even thos types of matches out.

Did you guys check UFC Usa vs. Canada? thought the main event was awsome! too bad Rich broke his hand  :-\

Yeah.  I thought it was a bit boring 'til the main event.

Awesome Main Event though.  If Rich Franklin had not broken his hand he'd of knocked him out 3rd round, 4th at the very latest.

I loved the whole thing, one of the best sporting events ive seen for a long time.
Give it a couple of years, and this shit will be bigger than boxing.

UFC fucking rules!

It should be it is so much better.  Much more entertaining and people actually get stuck in.

With Boxing these days too many fuckers just seem to want to win on points, they're fucking pussy bastards these days, few weak jabs, hide, few weak jabs, hide, then when he gets to the final round and they're both fucked they get more violent and stuck in, but since they're so knackered they don't have enough power left in the punches to finish things off.......

Its already bigger than boxing here.

wait till april when Tito beats the shit out of Forrest Griffin!


Rich Franklin is awesome, u should see the way this guy trains, he is a complete animal and I see why he hasnt been beat in the UFC.


Matt Hughes will also OWN Royce Gracie in May, watch and see.

Nah.  Tito's peaked, he's not as good as he once was, expect to be surprised ;)

I'll be chocked as hell if Forest beats Tito .and out a 100 bucks.


Grace is going to get slaughtered by Matt that fight has one way ass kicking writen all over it.

stick to wrestling Stoned.

Tito dominated and destroyed the great Vitor Belfort in his last fight.

When Tito fights his fight which is ground and pound he is one of the best fighters in UFC history, when he lets his ego get in the way and starts tryin to stand toe to toe with big strikers, thats when he gets in trouble.

Forrest is a barroom brawler with not a lot of skill and Tito will hurt him bad.

Remember the Rich Franklin/Nate Quarry fight?

this is what will happen with this fight.

Forrest has been fed a bunch of jokes who cant fight so far in his UFC Career, Tito will kill him.

Just wait. :P

I hear ya D concerning Tito and Forrest.  Forrest is way to sloppy to take down Tito.  I enjoy Forrest being in the UFC because it brings a fresh perspective in the sport, but one day he is gonna wind up over his head (like with Tito), and someone will hurt that kid real bad and he will never be the same.  I don't see Forrest lasting another 5 years in the UFC.

I dont know why Dana White is throwing Forrest into the mix with someone like Tito.

Nate Quarry will never be the same after his beatdown to Rich and after Tito murdered Forrest, its gonna hurt Forrest's career big time.

Yea it seems that Dana is getting more concerned with ratings than with good quality fights.  He knows Forrest will attract the newer UFC fans.  The only way I see this fight lasting more than 1 round would be if Tito drags the fight out, which you know he is known to do beating his opponent senseless.

This fight will look like Tito vs Guy messner when Tito just absolutelypunished the guy and then after the fight wore a T shirt that said "Guy messner is my bitch"


Did u see the Tito vs Ken Shamrock fight?

Ive never saw a guy get beat down worse than Shamrock did that fight.

Its funny cause UFC broadcasters try their fuckin best to spin it into that was a great fight so people who didnt see it wont know.

But if u ever get a chance watch it. Tito destroys him from bell to bell making Shamrock's face look worse than any other fighter Ive ever saw.

Did u see how bad Rich Franklin made the Crow's face look?

Tito did even worse to Shamrock.

Forrest Griffin comes out brawling, Tito will take him down and punish him.

I just got into this when I happened to catch the start of a "Ultimate Fighter 2" marathon a couple of weeks ago, and ended up watching the whole thing...that was a lot of Spike TV for one sitting.

The fighters that I'm into so far include:

Matt Hughes
Tito Ortiz
Luke Cummo
Forrest Griffin
Josh Neer

And while I haven't seen any fights with Andrei Arlovski yet I must say that he appears pretty badass from the 3 million previews I've seen for UFC 59.  :hihi:

2 bloodbaths on tap for Saturday


Arlovski will destroy Tim Sylvia and Tito will really mess Forrest up bad. I feel sorry for both sylvia and Forrest.'

I had a guy who doesnt know much about UFC try and bet me 25 bucks cause he is positive Forrest will beat Tito.

I didnt bet him cause I wouldve felt bad taking his money.


Forrest won a TV show and has beat a bunch of nobodies, Tito is one of the greatest fighters around today.

Forrest comes out and brawls, Tito possesses one of the best ground and pound games in the business. Forrest's style is tailor made for a fighter like Ortiz.

I think Forrest has a shot if he can keep the fight away from the ground. Dude can trade punches like nobody's business. Whether or not he's experienced enough to control the pace is a whole nuther question...

On an unrelated note, it seems like 60+% of these fighters have nicknames. I think there should be some sort of win number requirement for that. Nothing like seeing a guy with two recorded fights slapping on a moniker.  :rofl:

Tito and Forrest=Tito whipping his ass.  it's gonna be a rough night for Forrest.

Arvlovski and Silvia=I honestly don't know.

Silvia can win this one.  the pitbull is a great fighter, but at this time he thinks he is invinceable.  Silvia has improves his ground game alot and toe to toe Silvia and Arvlovski are pretty even, except that Silvia has a massive reach advantage due to being 6'10".

Beowulf u have seen Forrest trade punches with a bunch of nobody joke fighters. He hasnt defeated any competition at all and Tito is way too strong and too skilled for an amateur like Forrest.

Anything can happen in a fight but dont bet any  money on Forrest.


Thorazine

Sylvia has no chance.

did u see the fight he won to get the title shot? He is absolutely horrible.

heh. I don't know enough about UFC yet to start making bets. The worst thing that could happen if I got all crazy would be that I'd lose a few points in the next UFC fantasy game.   :hihi:

U gotta be careful when it comes to fighting.

records mean nothing, thats the first rule.

I get onto my brother all the time for this.

if a guy has a 22-1 record my brother assumes he is awesome but records mean nothing.

What matters is the competition they have fought.

I could fight 50 out of shape fat jokes and be 50-0 but that doesnt mean anything.

Forrest  has yet to beat a named fighter, he beat Stephan Bonnar barely and Bonnar got beat down by Keith Jardine *even though Bonnar won a bullshit decision*

Forrest has fought a lot of marginal competition whereas Tito has only lost to great fighters "Frank Shamrock,Chuck Liddell,Randy courture.

He also had an earlier loss to Guy Messner but he was still inexperienced.

Forrest has a punchers chance but Tito has a great chin *he absorded over 10 blows from Vitor Belfort, one of the greatest strikers in UFC history so Forrest isnt knockin him out.

Tito is too strong,too skilled and too good to lose to Forrest Griffin.

The only way I see Tito lose to Forrest is if he does stuff stupidy . Tries to stand with him like he did with chuk.

LOast night ppv was pretty solid .



Arlovski got to aggrassive and it may have cost him, though you really can't fault the dude cause it looked like he had Tim Sylvia.


Tito Looked great the first round against  Forrest, But the looked shit the second round..Then had a very close third round .truthfully the call could have went any way to me .I thing I will say is Forrest had to shut up some crittics witht htat fight And i don't want to here any shit about Tito not being a 100 percent .

Last night I was the only guy to pick Tim Sylvia, the other 10 guys I watched it with told me i was crazy but when i saw how much weight Sylvia had lost, I got a feeling and went with it. Somehow I knew Sylvia would win. U dont train that hard and lose that much weight for nothing.

Tito basically beat Forrest with one leg.

A healthy Tito would have killed him. U saw what Tito did in round 1. had he been healthy that wouldve been the way the entire fight would have went.

Ummm D, you remember this?
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Thorazine

Sylvia has no chance.

did u see the fight he won to get the title shot? He is absolutely horrible.
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 :hihi:

Ok.  On to UFC 60.  I think that the Hughes-Gracie match is nothing but a cash-grab for both UFC and Royce Gracie.  You've got to give Gracie his props, but the UFC is a total different beast than it was when Gracie was at the top of the food chain.  Back in the day, it was one martial arts dicipline against the other.  Now, these fighters are well versed in most all types of martial arts.  Considering Royce has been out of the octagon for years, and Matt Hughes getting better every match, theres no contest.  Hughes will dispose of Gracie in the first round.
 

Well, I picked Tito and Andrei, so I went one for two. (I never said Forrest would win, I said he could win.  :hihi:) Didn't actually watch the match though...as I didn't want to pay $30+ bucks at this point in time. Do they ever re-run the pay per view matches on Spike?

Oh...great episode of Tuf 3 last week. Freakin' overconfident basketball stabbing dipshit Jesse got exactly what was coming to him. And Noah having a sprained ankle to boot.  :rofl:

I haven't seen Spike air re-runs of pay-per-views, so you probably have to wait until it's on DVD.  Noah sure as hell got some retrobution last week didn't he? :hihi:  I'm looking forward to this Thursday.

Did you see the UFC all access of Arvloski?  When they showed how much he partied and had a good time in Chicago thats when I knew that Silvia would take him out.  Silvias been training like a madman in Iowa, not partying it up like Avloski.

Honestly, I bet 10 of my friends I was watching it with that Tim Sylvia would win.

I know i said on here he had no shot and had he fought andrei like he fought at the Ultimate fight night, he wouldve got killed.

When I saw that Sylvia had lost 20 pounds and truly trained hard, i switched and chose him.

I was the only one out of my friends who took him and i looked like a genius.


Tito has 2 partially torn knee ligaments and a slip disc in his back.

Imagine how bad he wouldve hurt Forrest had he been 100 percent.

That first round he annihalated Forrest.


Tito definitely won the fight.

in that 2nd round Forrest threw a lot of punches but honestly He only landed maybe 5 out of 30 punches, Tito was blocking most of them and was never hurt in the fight.

I'm pretty sure there will be a Tito-Forrest rematch.  Thats when Tito will shine...but you have to admit, Forrest did a pretty good job up against Tito, and I personally didn't expect that.

Forrest Griffin absolutely 100 percent elevated himself.

whereas Nate Quarry blew his chance forever by being decimated, Forrest stepped up and proved he is a big time fighter.


Losing in MMA doesnt hurt your career unless you lose badly.

Forrest took one of the greatest UFC fighters ever to the limit  and he might have lost the fight but his stock went way up. he proved he is not some joke TV fighter and that he is the real deal.

Yeah Nate dove into the deep end and sunk like a rock.  You're right, Forrest stock went up dramatically Saturday night.

I ac tually have some friends tryin to say Forrest won that 3rd round.

They are crazy!

Tito out did him on the feet and then got the takedown.

By rights Tito shouldve got a 10-8 first round instead of 10-9 cause he totally dominated Forrest for the entire 5 minutes.

If that wasnt a 10-8 round, there should never be 10-8 rounds.

The judge who scored is 29-27 for Tito did have it 10-8 in the 1st and rightfully so.

I've got you one better.  Go to www.ufc.tv  Scroll down to the bottom and they have this online survey as to who you think won the match.  Forrest had more votes as of yesterday.  :no:

I have some FANTASTIC news.

This Sunday, the awesome Mike Bisping from The Ultimate Fighter 3 is coming to my martial arts club to give a 3 and a half hour seminar.  Teaching us the great stand up he's known for years, and the fantastic ground and pound and submission fighting he's been taught on the show by Tito Ortiz.  I can't wait!  This is the only club in the UK he's doing this for since he is friends with a boxer at my club, and because this is a big thing for our club the local press will be there and pictures will be taken and i will be sure to put them online as soon as....

....Get In! :P

Post all the details dude, that sounds fuckin exciting!

If he says who won the show, DO NOT POST IT THOUGH!!!!!!!!! :hihi:

:hihi: The show ain't over, it's down to the Final 4 i've been told which will face off at the end of next month or something, not quite sure.

Just found out we also get a half hour Q & A session with him, he also sent an e-mail to one of the guys saying he can't wait to meet my instructor, he's heard he's a legend :D

Just got back from the seminar with Bisping.? Was an awesome time.? Had an intense warm-up, 3 rounds of shadow boxing and plenty of ground and pound and techinques on the floor, submissions from the guard, mount, half-guard, side position.? Really awesome time he's a right down to earth guy, all of us got to fight him on the ground at the end which was cool, he demolished the club, he is fucking awesome, i had the pleasure of tapping out to an ankle lock of his, i really hope he wins he's a top guy.? After over 2 and a half hours of training we also got a Q&A session, where he said if he wins he's gonna get a 9 fight UFC contract and he'll have to move to America and forfeit his UK titles (He's British Kickboxing Champion...).? He also said Shamrock is a right enough guy, though he did a bit of tough guy acting for the cameras (attributed that to his WWF time...).? 'Twas an awesome time, had pics taken with him (I'll put 'em up when the dude who took 'em sends 'em to me...).? I'll probably add to this when i'm a bit more sober.....went for a drink afterwards in the pub :hihi:....just remembered he also said Ross Pointon is thick and he could tap him out in his sleep (He's fought him before...)

Edit: Also said June 2nd he's going to Nigel Benn's training camp in Tenerife then after that he's flying to Las Vegas for the UFC stuff....

I just watched UFC for the first time tonight.? I knew it was no holds barred violence but nothing prepared me for that.? The fights lasted about 2 mins tops and they all consisted of one guy, the one who gained the advantage early on, punching the other on the head repeatedly, even smashing their face in while they're lying on the floor.? That's just sick, y'all.? What's going on? :-[

Well pretty much what i thought would happen with Hughes-Gracie.Matt pretty much handed him his ass. Grace should have tried to come back .things have change way to much since he last fougth .Espacialy coming back and fight someone like Matt .

Yep, i hoped it would go a bit longer but still i expected the same.  Gracie should never of come back, it was a real shame at the end to see him looking like a broken down man, Hughes had the strength but also shocked Gracie on the ground showing he had the skills....

....I was impressed with The Boogeyman Dave Lister, great submission victory, i enjoyed most of the fights except the Sanchez one which for the most part was a total bore.

I should have those pics up from the Mike Bisping seminar ''Soon'' :D

Can't believe this thread is dying :no:

The Ultimate Fighter this season has been great.

Kendal vs Ed Herman in the Middleweight final should be interesting.  If Ed get's his head sorted he should win but on current form i would back Kendal......

Kalib the other week was a fucking pussy pulling out and those guys refusing to come back, i was impressed with Ross Pointon.  He may be a dumbass who's lacking in the talent department but at least he's got the right i don't give a fuck mentality....

Here are a couple more pics from the seminar....

This is Bisping nearly being made to tap by one of the instructors at my club, he amazingly managed to get out of this....

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And this is the dude just chilling...

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Bet you tried to kiss him!

Thats why he looks so fucked off!  ;)

Other way round actually, i turned him down, he took it hard, rejection from me has that effect on people :-* :P :D

Dana White recently appeared as the first guest on the relaunch of Combat Fighter Zone (CFZ) Radio now live and on MMANews.com.

When asked about the rumor that UFC had offered a deal of some sort to Lesnar, Dana replied, "you know I did talk to Brock Lesnar [long pause] and I don't know what he's going to do. You know, I don't know what he's going to do. He knows the UFC is an option for him."

That would be awesome to see.......... :yes:

Lesnar?

He's definately got the amateur wrestling background.  But I fear that without enough knowledge ou Ju Jitsu or any other MMA disipline he might not be too sucessful.

But damn would it be intimidating to see his big ass in the octagon. : ok:

I got Ed Herman and Bisping winning.


Tito will destroy Shamrock and I think ARlosvski will win back the belt, I think he will redeem himself.


Id love to see Lesnar in the octagon, its not like he cant learn Jiu jitsu.

I'm not into UFC much, but I would definately tune into a Lesnar fight  : ok:

I agree with all of that.  I really hope Bisping wins, his fight against Pointon was great.  I loved the build up, really funny, Pointon was a great character and i give the guy credit for being man enough to fight and comeback when nobody else would, shame he's a fairly shit fighter.  Bisping has good stand up and a good ground game he should definately win.

I hope Ortiz does destroy Shamrock, before the show i wasn't a fan of his but i thought he was excellent and it was great to see how much he cared about the people, he put his heart and soul into it, Shamrock just seemed to be there for the paycheck i was really disappointed with him.

I expect Arlosvski to win as well Slyvia got lucky, Arlosvski made a mistake and got caught, i don't think he'll be that stupid again.......

....as for Lesnar you're right, look at Hamill on the Ultimate Fighter he was an amateur wrestler and he went through everyone in training and learned a load along the way and but for his injury he would of easily made it to the final he would of destroyed Josh Haynes.

And think Lesnar is 5 times stronger and bigger than Hamil.

Also, Tito manhandled Shamrock in their first fight.

If u guys havent saw it, u need to watch it.

Ive never in my life have seen a fighter's face look worse than Shamrocks did after that Tito fight.

Yeah he really brutalised him his face was so swollen after he looked a total mess, i've never seen someone last that long and take that much damage......

....it's a shame we don't get the Ultimate Fighter Finale until tomorrow night, so i best stay out of this thread tomorrow, don't want it spoiling.

We get Ultimate Fight Night 4 tonight is that recent or a repeat? (Said Stefan Bonner is fighting....) Then 2moro it's Ultimate Fighter Finale & Vengence, Get In!

The newest Ultimate Fight Night live comes on here June 28th Stephan is fighting Season 2 winner Rashad Evans.



If Stephan is fighting the white goatee Keith something guy from season 2 u are getting the old one.

It said it's from Las Vegas....no other details really, starts in bout an hour so i'll see.....

The Ultimate Fighter Finale was FANTASTIC!

I loved all of the bouts.

Great to see Kendall win although i was suprised i thought Ed was ahead on ponts, really exciting match there were so many moments when i thought it was over.....

....Bisping wins! Yeah!  Great stuff to see a local dude win, really enjoyed the fight, never any question really who would win.

Hamill had an easy fight against one of the shows weakest fighters, obvious from the outset he'd win.

Kenny Florian won easily to, short and sweet.

Jardine impressed me again, i'm happy the decision went his way, i think he was screwed over with the decision between him and Bonner.

Keith Jardine fought on 6/24.  So unfortunately he won't be fighting Bonnar.  IMO he one that first fight with Bonnar hands down. 

The judging was horrible though on Ultimate Fight Night.

Bonnar got his ass whipped and a dumbass judge called it a draw. Evans still won a majority decision but that fight wasnt close.



TITO is gonna dismantle Ken Shamrock Saturday, I absolutely cannot fucking WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I look for Arlovski to get his belt back, he wont be careless this time and walk into a shot.

So you guys think Ken can land one punch? I doubt.

they fought years ago and Tito destroyed him, Ken is a lot older now and Ken hasnt impressed me with any of his last few fights over the years.

Tito should kill him but this is fighting and anything is possible.

I can't fuckin wait for Saturday night!

I agree D, Tito will hand Ken his own ass and Arvloski will win like their first fight, in a submition.

I cant wait either for Saturday.

Every UFC I go to my brothers house and we have about 10 friends over and we order pizza, pig out on chips,cupcakes u name it and just have a fuckin blast watching it.


I live in Chattanooga Tn now but I drive 3 and a half hours to go to Kentucky just to watch it with all of them.


Its always a great time and Tito is my favorite fighter of all time and watching him is just intense.

Tito makes me feel like Tyson use to back in the day.

I'm really looking forward to this, good thing is we get it for free, shit thing is we don't get it 'til monday night.

I'd say the predictions are pretty much spot on Ortiz demolished Shamrock last time, and Arlovski just got careless last time, he was winning, went in for the kill and made a mistake, he won't do that again, and the main event for UFC 62 has been announced:


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That should be good, Another one to look forward to since Chuck is my fave fighter :)

Arlovski does have a suspect chin though and once a fighter gets knocked out, it does something to their psyche.

So Im not gonna 100 percent guarantee Arlovski will win.


Chuck will win that fight easy.

True but i still see him winning, i think Shamrock is more likely of pulling an upset (not that he will...)

Shamrock is a tricky bastard.? Thats the reason why he's survived all of these years.

I read on Titos wikipedia page that Tito had a 3 fight contract with the UFC, and that if he one all 3 fights which Shamrock is his 3rd (wins agains Shamrock and Griffin), he would be eligable to go against Liddell for the championship, which probably wouldn't be till the end of the year.

I like Babalu alot, but Chuck will manhandle him.?

ken shamrock is gonna rock titos jaw!!!!!!!!!!! and thats all there is to that! :beer:

LOL!

Im not gonna spoil it for the ones who havent got to watch it yet.

Yea, lets talk on tuesday after our fine friends across the pond watch.

Boy that sucked.

Frank Mir looked awful....

....Ortiz vs Shamrock was over to soon.  It was a real shame, fair is fair though, Shamrock was NOT intelligently defending himself.

As for the 'Main Event' what a snoozefest!  I'm all for striking but mainly i'm a take down and submission man i like to see that, and if you are gonna strike, get stuck in!

I felt really let down, maybe the event was too hyped up :-\

Yes it did suck.

Ortiz did win fairly, and the main event was a bore.

I wish that UFC would change some of their rules regarding elbows.  It seems that all you see these days are fighters getting pounded in the corner of the cage.

But hey, we do get Wonderli Sivla and Liddell in November, although that announcement does nothing to promote the Liddell-Babalu fight in August.

Speaking of that event in November i read Phil Baroni is returning..... :headbanger:

...word is the event could turn into UFC vs Pride

I was thinking that too...

Perhaps Liddell vs Silva in November on UFC, then a re-match sometime next year on Pride.

I think Liddell would be in deep shit in pride.  There are no fences to push anyone against. 

Silva hasn't been to successful in UFC, I don't see him defeating Liddell in the octagon.

But Liddell vs Silva in Pride? :o

From www.mmaweekly.com

WFA CEO gets kicked out of UFC 61.


World Fighting Alliance (WFA) CEO Jeremy Lappen went to UFC 61: Bitter Rivals this past Saturday night to show his support for Ken Shamrock in his rematch with Tito Ortiz. Just minutes after arriving, Lappen was escorted out of the Mandalay Bay Events Center by security and a Zuffa representative.

Lappen spoke with MMAWeekly about what transpired on Saturday night, the WFA?s July 22nd event, and the fierce competition between mixed martial arts promotions.

MMAWeekly: Mr. Lappen, you had an interesting weekend...

Jeremy Lappen: A short one.

MMAWeekly: Take me through what exactly happened at UFC 61 in Vegas Saturday night.

Lappen: I went to the fights. I was given a ticket by Ken Shamrock. I was his manager, and I am friends with him. He wanted me to come and support him at the fight, so he gave me one of his seats. I went down and was sitting in the front row and talking to some people. Five or ten minutes into it, security came over, about three security guards. I believe a Zuffa official was with them at that point. I?m not sure. They pointed at me and they were like, "You, you?re out of here." I was like, "What?" They were like, "Come on. You are out of here." I said, "What are you talking about?" They were like, "You?ve got to leave. You?re out." I was like, "I have a ticket." I showed them my ticket, and they said, "It doesn?t matter. You?ve got to go," and I said, "For what?" They said, "You?re out of here." They wouldn?t give me a reason. I was like, "But I have a ticket. I?m supposed to be sitting here." They walk me out through the back. I kept asking, "Why am I out of here? I have a ticket. What are you throwing me out for?" They said, "You?re out of here." Then the security guard said, "You don?t have a credential. You need a credential to sit in those seats." I said, "A credential? Nobody had a credential in those seats." I knew because I was sitting next to people that I knew. They were like, "You?re gone." I said, "For what? I have a ticket." [They said], "You?re gone. You need a credential." They walked me out through the back, all the way through the tunnels to the outside, and made me get into a cab and leave the casino.

MMAWeekly: The only explanation they gave you was that you didn?t have a credential?

Lappen: Yeah. That?s the explanation they told me. The security told me because I didn?t have a credential I had to leave.

MMAWeekly: Well, why do you think they removed you?

Lappen: I think they removed me because I think they?re freaked out and seeing us [WFA] as major, major competition for them. I guess in their opinion, their competitors shouldn?t come see their event [or] aren?t allowed to sit in the front row. I don?t know. It?s so silly, but I think they?re freaked out. I think they?re freaked out by the WFA, so they threw me out of their event. If you look at what happened at the event, how they had the Wanderlei [Silva] against Chuck [Liddell] announcement, to me that?s UFC and Pride being scared of the WFA. I guarantee that would have never happened if the WFA wasn?t around.

MMAWeekly: So you don?t know what UFC representative actually came over there with security?

Lappen: No. There was a UFC representative. I don?t know who he was.

MMAWeekly: Okay, let's shift gears and talk about your event coming up on July 22nd.

Lappen: Sure. Absolutely. We have a huge event coming up July 22nd from The Forum, the "King of the Streets" card with Bas Rutten against Kimo [Leopoldo], Quinton Jackson against Matt Lindland, and all the other line-up, which I?m sure you know about. It?s going to be a great event. We have a thirty-minute countdown show airing on Showtime right now. I don?t know if you?ve had the chance to see it, but it?s a terrific show.

MMAWeekly: What?s the deal with Showtime? Is there something bigger than the countdown show in the works?

Lappen: I?m not allowed to comment on the Showtime stuff at this time. They are airing our countdown show right now, and I?m excited about the future of the sport. I?m excited about the future of the WFA. You see the way these other promotions operate. They want so badly not to have any competition, so they can bring in lower-level fighters, not have the best fighters in the world fighting all the time. People have no other opportunities, and the fighters have no opportunities. As badly as they treat me, they don?t treat their fighters particularly any better either, at least from what I?ve seen and what I?ve heard from people. They want to keep out the competition. So, I think fans, if they want to see competition, which they should because it?s only good for the sport, it?s good for everybody actually, they need to come out and buy a ticket, buy our pay-per-view, and check out the show. It?s going to be great.

MMAWeekly: Obviously, you feel the UFC sees the WFA as competition. Looking at your fight card, you have Matt Lindland, the former number one contender in the UFC middleweight division going up against Quinton ?Rampage? Jackson, who beat the UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Chuck Liddell. You?ve got Ricco Rodriguez, former UFC Heavyweight Champion, so on and so on, Bas Rutten vs. Kimo...

Lappen: ...Yeah. We have Bas, a former UFC Champion. We?ve got Ryoto Machida, the only man who has knocked out Rich Franklin. He?s the only guy who's beat him...

MMAWeekly: ...You?ve also got Lodune Sincaid, who was in the first season of The Ultimate Fighter...

Lappen: ...That?s why I think they?re so freaked out. I mean, they?re scared to fight our fighters. They?re scared of us. You know?

MMAWeekly: When the card was being put together, was that something you had planned going into it, or did you just seek out the best fighters available and those were the ones to get?

Lappen: I wanted the best fighters in the world, and I wanted the most exciting fighters. I wanted people that the fans wanted to see, guys that are going to put on entertaining fights, and I wanted the best. These were the guys that I went after. Guys like ?Rampage," who beat Chuck. I know Chuck wanted the fight [against Rampage in the UFC]. I think Chuck is a warrior and would fight anybody, but for some reason, the UFC didn?t want to bring Quinton in to fight him. They were scared. Quinton was available. They never made an offer for him. Ryoto Machida has been out there, the only guy to beat Rich Franklin. Why didn?t they go after him and bring him in?

MMAWeekly: You signed others that they let go like Jason ?Mayhem? Miller. They let Ivan Salaverry go, and Lindland go...

Lappen: ...Yeah. I mean, Lindland was the number one contender for a long time, arguably the best, or in the top two or three 185-pounders in the world. Now he?s moving up to 205, and already having done that against Mike Van Arsdale and being victorious. I mean, he?s going to be a threat in both weight divisions, I think.

MMAWeekly: You mentioned that you?re Ken Shamrock?s manager.

Lappen: I was Ken Shamrock?s manager. Once I started promoting for the WFA, I stopped doing Ken?s fight deals because of the conflict.

MMAWeekly: Did you get the opportunity to see the fight?

Lappen: I went to a friend?s house and watched it. You know, watched it on television.

MMAWeekly: What did you think about the stoppage?

Lappen: I thought it was definitely way too early.

MMAWeekly: Let me ask you this. July 22nd at The Forum, is Dana White welcome to come sit front row at your event?

Lappen: Absolutely. Everybody is welcome to come to our event. I wouldn?t want to keep the entertainment from anybody.



That's just bullshit if you ask me.? UFC needs good competition, and this disrespect of this guy is not the way to go.

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Chuck clearly  thumbed Tito in the eye which is illegal and which led to Chuck knocking Tito out.

Hey, accidents happen, Tito lost :yes:

The following is an article from www.MMANews.com:

"Griffin-Bonnar II Announced For UFC 62 "Liddell vs. Sobral"

You can officially pencil in the long-awaited rematch between Ultimate Fighter season one standouts Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar for the upcoming UFC 62 pay-per view, which features the main event of Chuck Liddell vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral II.

Griffin and Bonnar last met at The Ultimate Fighter 1 finals live on Spike TV, and what transpired is considered by many to be among the greatest fights in the history in the company. The two will officially battle it out again on August 26 at the UFC 62 PPV.

Awesome, can't wait! :)

I think that Griffin-Bonnar 2 will just be a let-down.  But it'll sell pay-per-views. 

More and more though I'm looking forward to Sobral and Liddell going after each other.  Babalu has gotta be pissed that his fight has become overshadowed by the announcement of Liddell-Silva.

Imagine the fall-out if Babalu wins.  It'll get real interesting because you know that Liddell will want another shot at the title and would care less about Silva in November.

Well they got a lot to beat.  Going off their performances since i see Griffin definately winning....

What has happened to Tito Ortiz in the whole title equation.  I remember early in the year when interviewed he wanted to get past Forrest (Which he did....), Then beat Shamrock (Which he did....), Then face Liddell for the title later in the year....

When Tito re-signed with the UFC it was for a 3 fight deal, if he won all 3 fghts (which he has) he will get a shot at the title (which he'll get). 

Dana White is a tricky bastard (and a bit sleazy as well).  I think he's waiting to see who will be the light-heavyweight champion after these 2 fights in August and November and then put Ortiz in.  But thats my opinion.

If only he could do the WWE-Vince evil boss thing, haha, i'm sure many competitors would love a fight against Dana :D :P

I know the WFA CEO will sign up for a fight. ;D

Tito wants to fight the Griffin/Bonnar winner in November, then fight the Chuck/Silva winner early in 2007.

Press Release:

UFC 63: Hughes vs. St Pierre THE REMATCH

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2006

LIVE FROM THE ARROWHEAD POND OF ANAHEIM

Las Vegas, NV ? With one second left in the last round, nearly two years ago, a young Canadian fighter named Georges "Rush" St. Pierre found himself locked in an armbar, losing a championship title fight to the now legendary Matt Hughes for the then vacant welterweight crown. Ever since that day, and because of the tremendous athleticism and skill displayed during that fight, UFC? fans all around the world have waited for these incredible athletes to face each other, once again, in the Octagon?. Today, the UFC announced that the time has come, and that the two fighters will square off again -- with the welterweight crown at stake -- at the Ultimate Fighting Championship organization?s UFC 63: HUGHES vs. ST. PIERRE taking place live from the Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim Saturday, September 23, 2006.

Tickets for UFC 63: HUGHES vs. ST. PIERRE will go on sale Saturday, August 12.

"I?m pleased to announce to UFC fans all around the world that UFC Champion Matt Hughes, pound-for-pound one of the strongest and most experienced fighters in the UFC, and Number One Welterweight Contender and Canadian Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre, one of the most athletic and well-rounded fighters in the UFC will be the main event championship title fight at UFC 63 live from the Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim Saturday, September 23," said Dana White, UFC President.

White made the UFC 63 announcement today live from Bristol, Conn. on ESPN?s The Hot List. Hughes and St. Pierre were also present for the announcement and discussed the upcoming title fight with ESPN host Dari Nowkhah.

"I?ve been waiting for this fight against Matt Hughes for a long time," said St. Pierre. "This time I am ready ? I made a promise to the UFC that if they gave me another chance at the title I wouldn?t make a mistake again. I want that belt so bad ? I want to become the champion."

"I hope he?s ready," said Hughes. "No one has been able to stop me yet, and I don?t see myself giving up my belt any time soon. I?m looking forward to a good fight, but at the end of the night I will still be the UFC Welterweight Champion."

Hughes and St. Pierre last fought October 22, 2004 at UFC 50: THE WAR OF ?04 in Atlantic City, New Jersey. At the time, St. Pierre had a perfect record. But Hughes ended up giving St. Pierre his first career loss, forcing him to tapout at the end of the first round. Since that day, Hughes has maintained the welterweight crown, and St. Pierre has aggressively fought to put himself back in line for the title, defeating former champion BJ Penn, Jason "Mayhem" Miller, Frank Trigg and Sean Sherk. Meanwhile, Matt Hughes defeated Frank Trigg, Joe Riggs, and most recently the legendary Royce Gracie, who was previously undefeated in the UFC.

Matt Hughes (41-4) 5?9"/170 lbs., fighting out of Hillsboro, Ill., is considered by many to be the greatest welterweight champion in the history of the UFC. He started fighting in 1999, at UFC 22, and spent two years climbing his way up the division. Finally, at UFC 34 (11/02/01) he won the UFC Welterweight Championship by defeating Carlos Newton by KO. From there, he won five consecutive fights, holding the title for three years before losing it to BJ Penn at UFC 46 (1/31/04), succumbing to a rear naked choke at 4:39 of the first round. Matt regained the vacant welterweight crown at UFC 50 (10/22/04) by stopping Georges St. Pierre with an arm bar at 4:59 of the first round, and defended his title at UFC 52 (4/16/06) against Frank Trigg, winning by a rear naked choke. He fought Joe Riggs at UFC 56 (11/19/05) in a non-championship bout and submitted him by Kimura at 3:28 of the first round. Hughes then defeated Royce Gracie by TKO at UFC 60 (5/27/06).

Georges "Rush" St. Pierre (12-1-0) 5?10"/170 lbs., fighting out of Montreal, is the Canadian Welterweight Mixed Martial Arts Champion. He is an excellent athlete who combines solid stand up skills with an impressive ground game. After scoring UFC wins over Karo Parisyan, Jay Hieron, Jason "Mayhem" Miller, Frank Trigg, Sean Sherk and BJ Penn, St. Pierre is hungry for another shot at world champion Matt Hughes and is ready to prove himself as being the top welterweight fighter in the world.

The remaining bouts and ticket information for UFC 63: HUGHES vs. ST. PIERRE will be announced in the near future.

Is it me or does it seem lately that Hughes is starting to become arrogant and cocky?

The man who will take Hughes title will be St. Pierre.? Whether it'll happen in September or not remains to be seen.? Athough I think St. Pierre will win.? He's young, experienced, and a badass mutha-fucka.

He was too young and inexperienced in 04, I'm pulling for him in September.

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Hughes has been like that for a while though.

I remember when he was set to fight BJ Penn he was slagging him off for changing weight divisions saying he only changed cos he could not win the title in his weight division, he sounded quite pissed off actually and was so damn cocky thinking he would easily destroy him, i loved it when he was choked out :yes: :)

Sayin' that Hughes is a damn good fighter and this fighter could be great, i'm not bothered who wins i just want a great battle.....

Hughes is a great fighter, one of the best of all time but I hate his ass.

I think St Pierre takes the crown away from Hughes at UFC 63.

I went to a Jiu Jitsu class tonight and had a great time.

My cardio is outstanding as Ive been running my ass off the past 6 weeks, So I probably the best cardio of anyone there.

The teacher handed me my ass but no other student tapped me and I tapped them pretty easily.

Im gonna go every Wednesday!

^ You should come over to the UK and try and hand me my ass :P

Seriously though, cool to see you're doing some : ok:

Id love to come over to the UK.

THen I could beat u and have two titles.....


HTGTHWWE Game Champ

and HTGTH Grappling Champ :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


Seriously though, It was the first time I had grappled in a year. My strength and Cardio got me through it but I figure after a few weeks my technique and ability will be light years better than it was last night and Ill be able to react more instinctively.

It was a hell of a rush though and I cant believe I didnt start going sooner. : ok:

The following comes from OnlyUFC:

Sunday's Las Vegas Review-Journal features quotes from Dana White that confirm UFC's interest in a third Ken Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz fight.

"The way that fight ended the last time (stunk), and we care about our fans and our customers," White said. "They were booing and throwing (things) and I've never experienced anything like that before. It was a bad scene."

The fight was stopped in Tito Ortiz's favor after one minute and eighteen seconds. Although Ortiz was clearly winning, MMA fans almost unanimously condemned the stoppage as premature, noting that Ken Shamrock was far from "out."

White is eyeing an October Spike TV special for the fight as a courtesy to disappointed fans who paid $39.95 to see their bout last month.

Neither Ortiz nor Ken Shamrock had agreed to terms at press time.

Bring it on!

I'd love to see them go against each other one last time....

What would be the point?

Tito killed him in both fights, Shamrock lost both fights very very badly.

Entertainment value? :D

Going 3-0 up....

... :yes: :yes:

I still dont understand why fans were booing the ending.

Ken was defenseless and Tito was landing uncontested elbows.

How was that a premature stoppage?

Tito wouldve landed 10 more elbows had Dean not stepped in.

Sometimes I think UFC fans are morons, at least the majority.

Ken Shamrock got saved a night in the hospital.

Its not Tito's fault Ken isnt in his league.

Its gonna be great seeing Tito beat the shit out of him again.

Great move by Dana th ough to make up for those who wasted 40 dollars on this garbage fight.

Just got back from a MMA comp.

Won Gold in the Gui under 80kg grappling....

...and Silver in the No-Gui under grappling.

Also got presented with a medal by Mike Bisping from the UFC, and i was in my GN'R Tee  :D I should have the pic up within' a week or so...

WOW Stoned that is amazing dude!!!

GREAT JOB!!!


Cant wait to see the pics!

Thought you UFC buffs might be interesting in this nugget of info.

MMA company K-1 released the following press release this morning confirming that Brock Lesnar will enter the MMA Ring:

Former World Wrestling Entertainment Champion Brock Lesnar Announces Entry Into The MMA Ring In K-1?s HERO?s Series
Former World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) World Champion Brock Lesnar announced his entrance into the MMA ring Saturday night at a press conference at Bellagio following the K-1 ?Battle at Bellagio? event. Lesnar confirmed that he had signed a contract to fight for HERO?s, K-1?s new Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) series of events which includes headliners Genki Sudo, Bob Sapp, Kazushi Sakuraba and Don Frye. Lesnar also announced that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu innovator and the Ultimate Fighting Championship?s (UFC) first-ever champion, Royce Gracie, will be his trainer.
(PRWEB) August 17, 2006 -- Former World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) World Champion Brock Lesnar announced his entrance into the MMA ring Saturday night at a press conference at Bellagio following the K-1 ?Battle at Bellagio? event. Lesnar confirmed that he had signed a contract to fight for HERO?s, K-1?s new Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) series of events which includes headliners Genki Sudo, Bob Sapp, Kazushi Sakuraba and Don Frye. Lesnar also announced that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu innovator and the Ultimate Fighting Championship?s (UFC) first-ever champion, Royce Gracie, will be his trainer.

?You are a great champion wrestler and I am a great Jiu Jitsu fighter; we are going to be good together,? said Gracie as he eagerly shook Lensar?s hand in the K-1 ring at the sold out ?Battle at Bellagio? event on Saturday.

Lesnar?s career includes a number of years with WWE, a player with the Minnesota Vikings in the NFL as well as Amateur Wrestling in high school and college. He won the 2000 NCAA Heavyweight Wrestling Championship and was a two-time All-American amateur wrestler. Lesnar?s professional titles include WWE Heavyweight Champion, WWE King of the Ring Champion, WWE Royal Rumble Champion and the IWGP World Heavy weight Champion.

HERO?s is the new and exciting MMA series brought to the United States by FEG, also the organizers of K-1. Established two years ago in Japan, HERO?S combines all forms of martial arts disciplines including Karate, Kickboxing and Kung Fu, as well as the grappling techniques of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Judo and Wrestling. This style of fighting has been developed with the hope of eliminating unnecessary techniques and creating more exciting fights that last longer. The fights take place in a boxing style ring making it easy for the viewers to follow the action.

Over the past decade, MMA events have increased significantly in popularity. Creating a true international flavor by inviting top participants from all over the world, the reputation of HERO?s shows has spanned far beyond Japan. With special lighting and pyrotechnic effects, the HERO?s events are packed with high-energy action and excitement. HERO?s events are currently broadcast in prime time on Tokyo Broadcasting System (TBS).

HERO?S will be held four times each year and is scheduled to begin in February 2007. The location has yet to be determined but more than likely will occur at a major venue on the West Coast. HERO?S will televise their events in more than 110 countries worldwide.

K-1 is a martial arts fighting sport that derives its name from its inclusion of a wide array of combat disciplines including Karate, Kung-Fu and Kickboxing (?K?), with an intent to determine one champion in one ring (?1?). After being staged for the first time in Japan in 1993 under the direction of founder Master Kazuyoshi Ishii, K-1 has evolved into the country?s most popular sport and has achieved popular culture status as its athletes are larger-than-life celebrities.

For more information on HERO?S, go to www.k-1usa.net..

I'd love to see how he fares!

HAHA its kinda funny he went with Royce considering he was training with 165 pound champ Matt Hughes and Matt Tapped his ass out like he was a little girl. :hihi:

The following is a rumor from BettorMMA.com:

Rumor out of Calgary is that Georges St. Pierre is more than likely out of of his UFC 63 Welterweight title shot....

An Oddessa employee out of Calgary has reported that Georges St. Pierre suffered a serious elbow injury in training and is more than likely out of his UFC 63 Welterweight Title shot against Matt Hughes. The Oddessa source said that there is a 90% chance the fight is off and even if it goes through lines have been affected dramatically due to the serious nature of the injury. Pinnaclesports.com has already taken the fight off the boards and is waiting an official announcement fron the St. Pierre training camp. Stay tuned to BettorMMA.com for more details.

That sucks, if true.....

FUck no

say it aint so.

I guess we will see BJ Penn vs Matt Hughes.


Cause I dont know what else they could put up.

Stoned vs Matt Hughes....it's round my weight section

 :D

I've always wanted to have the crap kicked out of me in front of millions of viewers.

(I got a few pics back from that competition, gonna scan 'em on tomorrow... ;))

I have a video of Tito and Matt Hughes in a wrestling/grappling tournament back in 2000.


Tito fights Matt for 3rd place.... u wanna see it?

Of course dude...

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/tito%20ortiz/video/x7ekx_adcc-2000-tito-ortiz-vs-matt-hughes

The following is a new article from UFC.com:

St. Pierre Sidelined by Injury; ?The Prodigy? to The Rescue
By Thomas Gerbasi

After a groin pull forced top 170 pound contender Georges St. Pierre to withdraw from his September 23rd rematch with UFC welterweight champion Matt Hughes at the Arrowhead Pond in Anaheim, California today, the UFC was faced with a dilemma. Who could possibly challenge the champ on short notice and still be compelling enough to get fight fans excited?

The answer was a no-brainer ? the last man to beat Hughes, BJ Penn.

And as one of the top fighters in the world, pound for pound, Penn eagerly accepted the opportunity to make it 2-0 against the premier welterweight of this era.

?I thrive on these big fights, I thrive on pressure, and that?s when I perform my best,? said Penn, who was already in training for an October UFC bout when he got the call to replace St. Pierre.

For his part, Hughes -who has defended his crown eight times over two reigns - would like nothing better than to settle an old score with Hawaii?s ?Prodigy?.

?Now I?ve got something to really look forward to. I?ve already beat Georges and here I get to fight BJ Penn, a guy who?s beaten me. I?m a month out and I can really concentrate on BJ Penn now, and I?m looking forward to it.?

In 2004, Penn, a highly regarded lightweight contender at the time, scored one of the biggest upsets in mixed martial arts history when he rose 15 pounds in weight to tackle and beat Hughes in his first-ever welterweight bout. The end came at 4:39 of the first round when Penn forced Hughes to tap out due to a rear-naked choke.

On September 23rd, the rivalry is renewed.

Rock N' Roll :headbanger:

This should be a great fight, i hope Hughes gets revenge :D


UFC held the weigh-ins for its "UFC 62: Liddell vs. Sobral" event Friday?some of the footage made its way onto a Spike TV special that evening.

The true news story of the day, however, was the official announcement of Ken Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz III for a Spike TV Fight Night special. The two, who were both present at the weigh-in, will square off for the final time on 10/10 in Hollywood, Florida


Chuck Liddell told the Las Vegas Review Journal that tonight's fight with Renato "Babalu" Sobral will be far tougher than a now hypothetical bout with PRIDE's Wanderlei Silva.

"I actually think Babalu is a tougher fight for me than Wanderlei," said Liddell. "I'd knock Wanderlei out in the first round. I guarantee it. I've watched him so many times, I know. He doesn't have a great chin and he'll come at me straight."

"He's a guy who is willing to take one to land one, but I hit a lot harder than he does."

According to Liddell, a victory at tonight's PPV would likely set up a fight with Tito Ortiz at UFC 66 in December.

The Light Heavyweight Champion also confirmed a desire to begin fighting Heavyweights in 2007.

"It's something I've thought about and I think I'd like to try if I get all the fights (at light heavyweight) that I want and out of the way," he said. "It would be a challenge, but that's why it would be attractive to me."

Chuck Liddell fights Renato "Babalu" Sobral on tonight's UFC 62 card.

UFC 62 was okay.

Chuck was great as usual, it was a shame the fight was so short though, Babalu chasing after Chuck with his guard down was just dumb though, did he really think he'd got him on the run? :hihi:

Hermes Franca impressed me again i really like this guy, i've seen him a fair bit recently since here in the UK every night UFC events from the past are on, generally split over 2 nights, so i've seen a few of his old bouts, he had a great one with Caol Uno which was on a few days ago.  Good to hear they are bringing back the Lightweight Title.

Forrest vs Bonnar was ok, they had a lot to live up to and obviously it wasn't a patch on the original but it was still decent.....

The following is from UFC.com

Tickets for UFC 64: Unstoppable on Sale TodayLas Vegas, NV ? After a seven-month absence, UFC? World Middleweight Champion Rich ?Ace? Franklin returns to the Octagon? to make his third title defense against the seemingly unstoppable UFC newcomer Anderson ?The Spider? Silva. With a history of vicious striking and devastating knockout power, Silva has quickly become the most dangerous contender in the UFC middleweight division. Franklin, who remains undefeated in the UFC, will put his belt up for stakes when he squares off against Silva in the main event of the Ultimate Fighting Championship? organization?s UFC 64: UNSTOPPABLE taking place live from Las Vegas at the Mandalay Bay Events Center Saturday, Oct. 14.

Also announced today will be the return of the lightweight crown to the Ultimate Fighting Championship organization. Kenny ?KenFlo? Florian and Sean ?The Muscle Shark? Sherk will face off at UFC 64 to battle for the vacant lightweight crown, which has been held only by former champion Jens Pulver. As demonstrated by recent pay-per-view events, the UFC has a number of talented lightweights competing in this division, including the return of Jens Pulver as well as Spencer Fisher, Melvin Guillard, Mark Hominick, Joe Stevenson and Yves Edwards

I find it funny that a lot of people think cause Anderson Silva knocked out Chris Leben that he can actually hang with Rich Franklin.

Rich wins this fight.

Did u hear Tito after the Chuck fight..... That was hilarious.

He told Chuck they'd wait till December to give Chuck time to lose his gut.

Yeah that amused me, i'm just hoping nobody get's any injuries and this fight happens.

Rich is a great fighter but do you even know who Anderson Silva is ,aside from the Leben fight.

Hey D dude, you ever have one of those holy shit moments when your training?

Tonight i was doing Randori (Judo) with this Russian at the club, and he's like 6'2 and built like a brick shit house, i'm bout 5'9 :hihi: I'd been frustrating him for a bit, but then i went in for a clumsy throw, and the dude just picked me up and pretty much tossed me in the air and dropped me on my head, fuck scared the hell out of me, everyone rushed over and i was down for a fair bit, my head and neck are killing me now, after he'd done it i couldn't speak for several minutes i was just proper breathless, i'm gutted my dad did not by this camcorder we were looking at the other day, could of had that shit on film, and when we do get it my ass ain't film any re-runs.

Damn Dude.......... That would've been scary, I hope that doesnt stick in your head. I havent had anyone throw me like that, Thank God.

I would've loved to have seen it though :hihi:

Thanks to LukeCummo.com, the official website of Ultimate Fighter veteran and UFC fighter Luke Cummo, for the following information.

October 10, 2006 - UFC Fight Night
I will be facing Ross Pointon of The Ultimate Fighter Season 3 on the October 10 UFC Fight Night featuring Shamrock-Ortiz 3.

 :hihi:

The guy was a great character and had the attitude, but boy he sucked, still, i'll really be looking forward to this :D

I love ROSS! You know what I mean? :hihi: :hihi:



Here is a great Tito Interview, check it out!


http://www.nbcsports.com/sports/90125/detail.html

When he talks about tactics for fighting Chuck again this sounds a bit worrying:

I'll change my fight strategy a little bit, but not that much, because I believe I have great standup, and my wrestling is good, too. I'm a great fighter.

He seems to be hinting at tryin' to go toe-to-toe with him again on the stand-up, so many people make that mistake with Chuck......

Thing with Chuck is, U have to go toe to toe for a little while to bait him.


In their first fight Tito did very well standing with Chuck in the first round.

Chuck really didn't do anything until about 10 seconds to go in the round he landed one right hand followed by 3 misses and then he landed a kick right at the buzzer.

2nd round Chuck ONLY knocked Tito out cause he thumbed him in the eye and he saw Tito grab his eye and he went in for the kill.

So Tito can stand with Chuck and he can bait him for a takedown and then Tito will wear him down and win.


Im not makin excuses for Tito, watch the fight, he honest to GOD got poked in the eye which led to Chuck's flurries.

True, but Chuck was still doing better standing up and Tito had no intention of taking him down......

Yeah but that fight Tito let his ego get the best of him and tried to prove something to himself and the world.

This time he won't stand exclusively, he will fight his game.

I think he can wear Chuck down in the later rounds and get the decision.

Can't see it going 5 rounds, if they stand for too long Chuck should win, if Tito takes him down Chuck is fucked.

I agree 'bout the ego thing, if he doesn't let that get in the way he should be fine, he has matured a lot.  I never used to like him, he was a good fighter but always seemed to cocky and a bit of a twat, but the UF3 really changed by view he seemed like such a great guy and cared so much for his team and was a great coach he really seems to of matured........

He put Matt Hamill and Kendall Grove into his Team Punishment and they are all still training together.

Hamill and Kendall are both fighting on Oct 10th

When will u get to watch that?

Ed Herman is also fighting on that card.

I don't know whether that will air over here at the time, but i download most things anyway so i'll have it within' a day or so of it airing...

Does anyone here know where i can watch Chuck vs Tito (at UFC 47)

Trying to get into UFC and i've been told to watch this match by a friend

http://www.silvervision.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=UFCDVD047&recno=28

Without sounding really pikie is there anywhere i can get it for free. Just wanna watch it.

Is there any other really good matches i should watch stoned?

I recommend watching all UFC matches stoned :smoking:

As for finding it, all i can suggest is youtube.

Oh and if you download from torrent sites try like, er, torrentspy.com

Your in the UK right though aren't ya dude?  UFC is on Player/Bravo it was on every night up until like a week since, now it's just Ultimate Fighter 1 re-runs and Ultimate Fighter 4 every sunday, look out for some shows there should be some coming up, next sunday on Bravo there will be UFC 63 Hughes vs Penn, that should be awesome!

Cool cheers. I tried youTube but everytime you put ortiz name in it brings up so much confrontation between him and shamrock. Man they hate each other.

Saw this one thing tho where Ortiz is getting interviewed in the ring and Chuck comes in. I thought it looked a good rivallry but then i found out he already beat Tito.

You see i thought Ortiz was like unbeaten and the best basically but then my friend put me right. I take it Chuck battered Tito then?

He beat him yes, but, well, i'll let D explain it..... ;)

So if you were a betting man would you back Tito in the next fight?

Yep and i am.

Yeah looks good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmGVF6xPyh0

The following is the current line-up for the October 10th UFC special on Spike TV, Ultimate Fight Night "The Final Chapter".

-Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
-Kendall Grove vs. Chris Price
-Ed Herman vs. Jason MacDonald
-Matt Hamill vs. Seth Petruzelli
-Nathan Marquardt vs. Thales Leites
-Joe Riggs vs. Tony DeSouza
-Josh Haynes vs. Rory Singer
-Thiago Alves vs. John Alessio
-Luke Cummo vs. Ross Pointon

Really looking forward to this, can't wait to see Kendall, Ed & Ross (Especially Ross :hihi:) fight, i'm also a big fan of Joe 'Diesel' Riggs.  Only thing missing from it all is Bisping....

So why's that. What do you think he'll do differently. Coz its quite rare for someone to lose and then win isn't it

Because Tito is the better fighter and much more mature now.  He could of beaten him last time, but he tried to beat him at his own game (Stand-Up), rather than taking him down for ground and pound.  Plus if you are being picky, as D says, Chuck did accidently poke Tito in the eye which led to the subsequent knockout.

Not gonna spoil it for those who haven't watched it yet.

BUt UFC 63 was a damn good PPV.

DAmn it I missed it. :crying: :crying:


Going to have to catch a replay

Yep it was, just seen it here in the UK and like i've said before don't worry about talking about the results, i purposely stay out of this thread until i've seen the event.

To sum things up, cardio is so important, Penn was so fucked 3rd round he could not even get his guard up.....

.....As for Hughes next fight, i would rather see him fight Diego Sanchez.

Great Fight.

At one point i thought it was gonna go the other way . . But in the end he domininated the last round

Welterweight up and comer Jon Fitch will make his first live UFC television appearance on Saturday, October 14, when he faces Japanese star Kuniyoshi Hironaka in an intriguing 170-pound matchup at UFC 64, which will be held at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Fitch, a member of the AKA fight team, is currently 3-0 in the Octagon, with wins over Josh Burkman, Brock Larson, and most recently, Thiago Alves. He?s in tough again against Tokyo?s Hironaka - who owns victories over UFC vets Nick Diaz and Renato Verissimo - and he knows it.

?I think the UFC likes to give me tough opponents,? laughs Fitch. ?He is a solid fighter all the way around - very good on the ground with solid standup. I have my work cut out for me on this one, but as always, I fight like a thief - if you leave a window open I will crawl through it and make you pay.?

Also added to the UFC 64 card, which is headlined by the middleweight championship bout between Rich Franklin and Anderson Silva and the lightweight championship contest between Sean Sherk and Kenny Florian, is a light heavyweight matchup between ?The Ultimate Fighter? veterans Keith Jardine and Mike Nickels, and a lightweight bout pitting UFC newcomers Clay Guida and Justin James against each other.

Well thats the end of Shamrock then!

I dont think he believed he could win really.

They were some hard shots tho.

Good to see it end with admiration tho

I hope I dont have to put up with an other Shamrock fight again anytime soon.  Frank is ok, but Ken is a Bitch.

It was actaully nice to see Ken eat some crow after this match and not make up excuses for the loss

You Fight Tito Ortiz.......... You Lose



CHuck is next!

Really i thought Chuck beat him last time. Stoned was telling me that its different now and i should ask D why that is.

So please explain

Chuck beat Tito but........


First round was even

second round Chuck poked Tito in his eye, when Tito grabbed his eye the Ref didnt stop it to let Tito recover like they did Matt Hughes against Bj Penn. Instead the match continued and Chuck unloaded about 12 shots on Tito and knocked him out.

Up until the eye poke Tito was holding his own.


I also would like to point out that this was only Tito's 2nd fight in over a year and a half so he was kind of rusty and wasnt in top form.

Now he has fought 3 times this year so he will be sharp and on top of his game.


Plus back then he and Chuck were friends and he wasnt too thrilled having to fight him.

He also got heavy into tryin to be a movie star and all that bullshit back then as well.

Now he is 100 percent dedicated to fighting and this one will be a great fight.


Tito has a good chance to win. Chuck also has a good chance to win, so its gonna be up in the air as to who wins.


Tito is my hero so of course I am picking him.

And thats the way it should be. No an easy prediction.

Cheers for explaining.

Should be interesting . . i take it there not friends anymore?

If u guys havent seen it yet I want spoil it but all i can say is.....


WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : ok:

Yeah, it ruled.
The main event could've gone a bit longer, but whada ya do...

I cant believe that Rich got absolutely owned, i was totally shocked but so excited by Anderson Silva. That guy looks to have it all! Man...he broke Franklins nose after bashing his body to shit. Brilliant stuff!

Great performance by The Shark as well. To go through that match losing that much blood, you really need to take your hat off!

The UFC's heavyweight division is so watered down it is a joke.

Silva is the man.  He is probably the best in is weight division in the world, right now.

The Shark?  This guy is like a ball of muscle.  But there is no one left in the UFC for him to fight..   Thanks the pelver being a punk.   Gomie is the best lightweight in the world by far.  Sherk should go over to pride and fight him.

Joe Daddy Stevenson has dropped down to lightweight and if u saw what he did to Yves Edwards, U would know that Sherk has plenty of comp from Stevenson.

Ya I saw it, so the guy can elbow.  He has a pretty good record.  But he is like most of the UFC guys, borring as hell to watch.  I hate the ground and pound.   I hate elbows.   Winning a fight because of a cut, big deal. 

Fact is the UFC is so watered down.  They have no heavyweights and lightweights.   Mabey Penn could move down in weight, that would be ok.

There Lightheavy weights are great and so are the welterweights, but my too fav divsions is the lightweight and heavyweight.  Or Open weight, which is the best.

If Penn does move down in weight and is motivated, he would kill sherk

According to the official website of the UFC, The Ultimate Fighter 3 Light Heavyweight winner Michael Bisping will not be making his non-TUF debut for the company at this coming weekend's Ultimate Fighter 4 live finale show as originally scheduled.

Bisping, who was set to fight Eric Schafer in the main event, is off the listing of the matches on the UFC.com website. Early rumors indicate the issue causing his removal from this card is getting a visa to come into the country from England.

That sucks >:( :(

Just seen the Ultimate Fighter Finale, boy it sucked.

Riveria's fight was stopped too soon, his punches weren't making contact or doing any damage....

Anyway the series went downhill so the only fights that really served any interest to me were the finals, especially Serra's since i am a big fan of his.  Lutter's fight was quick and the guy was impressive, he's still gonna get battered by Silva though.  The Serra vs Lytle fight was so boring and how one judge can score it 30-27 in favour of one guy and another can score it 30-27 in favour of another is behind me, i'm glad Serra won though i felt it was the right decision, he kept Lytle up against the fence and was the more aggressive, sayin' that jack shit of what he did had any effect.....

....Serra doesn't stand a chance anyway whether he faces Pierre or Hughes.

damn what a boring fight.  Serra/lytle almost surpassed severn/shamrock 2 as the most boring fight ever



Stoned u should try out for TUF 5, they are lookin for 155 pounders.......... isnt that about what u weigh?

I'm 170 normally so if i cut like those UFC bastards do....Yep.

I'm not good enough to be on, just cos they have shit like Ross Pointon on doesn't mean i wanna get on as a punchbag.  I have good takedown skills, am very good at Judo and submissions on the ground but i've never really bothered much with the punching and kicking aspect, the competitions i've been in most of the time have essentially been UFC without the strikes i.e. Submission Grappling.  There has been the odd time or two i've been into ones with striking but no head shots allowed (to get insured to legally allow headshots would be realy hard, most places just don't have the facilites or staff.) word is back here Bisping is tryin' to get his best mate on and he is very good, he came down to our club when Bisping did the seminar here and he's also fought here a few times (and won) no problems.

Back on TUF subject i forgot to mention, what a great end to Sell vs Smith, that was a crazy finish, knocking him out then collapsing from the punch he'd already nailed him with...

a lot of people thought smith was playin possum but he wasnt, he was finished but landed an amazing shot.

that was one of the best fights i have seen and dana shouldve gave bothof those guys a contract.


serra and lytle was so awful, that kind of fight can kill some of the momentum the ufc is tryin to build.


I cant wait for saturday, i hope GSP can win but i have a feeling Hughes is gonna pull it out.

sylvia wll win and I hope Frank Mir is back in shape or he is gonna get murdered against brandon vera.




Great fight card on the tito vs chuck undercard so far

u got forrest vs keith Jardine and andrei arlovski on the card.

I'm a Hughes fan i want him to win but i think GSP will win.

Sylvia will win no doubt, he's still shit though  :D

I really want Mir to win and win well i'm a big fan of his but his last 2 showings since his return have been crap, rumour is the winner of this will get a shot at the champ, we could have Sylvia vs Mir II, although unless he's back to his old self i expect Vera to win he's damn good.

Looking at the December Card.  It's always great to see Forrest fight with his fuck it i'll fight anyone and try my best attitude.  Hopefully we'll see the old Arlovski, last fight he was a shell of his former self, he'd totally lost his confidence and in having done so fought a five round bore which Sylvia was more than happy to win on points.  And obviously Ortiz vs Liddell should be good and is one of if not the most anticipated UFC fight ever, it's expected to do over a million...

UFC fighters need a union.

For instance Tito's last PPV got 700 thousand buys that is a gross of 28 million


tito made 250,000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what a shitty pay off




Rich Franklin actually made less than Anderson Silva in the last fight, franklin only got 21,000


Check out Franklin's face those who didnt see it:


(http://www.lo-ki.com/Silva-knee_Franklin-nose.gif)

Last Saturday night's Ultimate Fighter 4 finale on Spike TV scored a final cable rating of 1.1, according to Nielsen Media Research.

Not a very good number at all.

Not surprising, it was easily the worst season yet.

UFC have gone and ended David Loiseau's deal which is a damn shame he's a great factor who's just been unlucky as of late....

That sucks!

I wouldve liked to have seen Louiseau fight AndersonSilva

UFC drops some people way to soon.

Another interesting fight for December is Jason Macdonald vs Chris Leben.

Macdonald is the dude who took out Ed Herman in his debut, would be cool to see him slay another person from TUF......he could have a gimmick then :hihi: (.....Back to the wrestling thread...)

We are less than 2 hours away.


I wish both champions would lose tonight

Sadly I dont think either one will.


I just hope Frank MIr can get back on track tonight.

that would set up Mir vs Sylvia 2

Damn right.

Sorry, just wanted to get some "I told ya so" out of my system.  :rofl:

Well done GSP, Hughes looked damn poor, he did against Penn to though....

...Gutted to see Mir lose again.  I have to give Sylvia credit, the dude is trying, i mean going for a triangle, sayin' that he should of got it locked in from the position he was in, if he'd of pulled his feet down it would of been tight...

UFC gets better every single event i watch! Fucking awesome. GSP owned Hughes. Brilliant stuff!  :D

Most UFC 65 Fighter Pay Out Figures Released
By Matt Boone for MMANews.com

The following are the official figures released by the California State Athletic Commission as to what each fighter earned during for their fight at the UFC 65 "Bad Intentions" show from November 18th.

Remember, these figures don't include sponsorship money the fighters would receive, as well as the many bonuses UFC gives privately to fighters.

Tim Sylvia ($120,000)
Matt Hughes ($75,000)
Georges St. Pierre ($58,000)
Brandon Vera ($40,000)
Frank Mir ($30,000)
Nick Diaz ($24,000)
Joe Stevenson ($24,000)
Jeff Monson ($13,000)
Jake O'Brien ($12,000)
James Irvin ($10,000)
Antoni Hardonk ($6,000)

What's with the bullshit amount Monson gets?  ???  :o

ITs finally here!!!!!!!!!!


Saturday Night


TIto vs Chuck.

I have waited for 2 years to see this rematch.

I am sitting at my computer in my PUnishment Athletics official Tito shorts and T Shirt and I am nervous

I dont know what Im gonna do if he were to lose Saturday. I will be mad and sad...............

Im gonna be so  nervous watching this..............

All the previews i've read think Chuck will win.

He's the bookies favourite.

Couture is convinced he will win sayin' he'd even come out of retirement to challenge Ortiz if he won.

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson is in the UFC, he's fighting at UFC 67

Liddell has only lost 3 times, to Couture, Horn & Jackson, he's avenged 2 of those losses so i think if Chuck beats Ortiz this will be his next fight.

Hopefully Bisping will get off to a winning start this weekend as well.? It's a fantastic card, unfortunately here in the UK we don't get it 'til Monday Night....

Speaking of big name fighters...

"Cro Cop" to Face Eddie Sanchez in UFC Debut

Wednesday, December 27, 2006
by Sherdog.com Staff

The Ultimate Fighting Championship is expected to introduce Croatian heavyweight Mirko Filipovic as its newest acquisition during the Dec. 30 UFC 66 pay-per-view card, Sherdog.com learned Wednesday afternoon.

A star in the competitive PRIDE Fighting Championships' heavyweight division from Nov. 2001 through Sept. 2006 ? when "Cro Cop" captured PRIDE's Open-Weight Grand Prix crown ? Filipovic is slated to make his Octagon debut against North County Fight Club's Eddie Sanchez, a source close to Sanchez said.

I've seen a lot of PRIDE recently and he is lethal, a fantastic fighter...he went through Wanderlai Silva & Josh Barnett in the same night....

Finally seen UFC 66, awesome event!  Loved every match on the card, some fantastic knockouts, great to see Bisping triumph!  Jardine was damn impressive to as was Macdonald, 2 nice upsets there.  Shame Ortiz did not win but it was a good fight, i'm looking forward to Rampage vs Chuck now, oh and Cro Cop is gonna kill Sylvia  :hihi:

a cant beleive ortiz to all them hits in the first round and survived hes a true champion!

Tito has improved greatly, So i wasnt disappointed. I dont know why they didnt stop the fight in round 1 but stopped it in round 3 when Tito was blocking most of those punches with his elbow and shoulder.


Still though, he did great to rebound and win Round 2.

I think he gave Chuck way too much respect though.


People ask me why he didnt try the takedowns more.

Well the takedown is what got him beat. when he would shoot in, Chuck would stuff it and Tito would eat massive punches tryin to get back up from the shoot.

I dont know why, when Tito was on his back and Chuck would drop down and start punching why Tito didnt go for an arm bar or something.......

Great Fight though, I hope one day they rematch yet again. Tito is gettin closer to figuring chuck out. He got a little too impatient though and that cost him.

i was just hoping for tito to grab a hold of him and chuck to tap, theres something about chuck that i dont like. am just getting into watching UFC so a back story would be helpful :)

Well you could say a true champion wouldn't get hit. :hihi:

I was hoping Tito would win and then we could have a decider but didn't work out that way


Yeah, but Chuck seems too good for him to me. and thats not a throw away comment.

Like D said Tito gave him too much respect and paid for it. Looked like he thought he was gonna lose . . not saying thats true just looked like it to me.

I haven't watched UFC much but i always thought that Tito was the 'King' on the outside but i've seen some of Chuck and he reminds me of Noel Gallagher . . A cocky guy who people want to fall on his face, but in the end has done the business to back it up.

Tito and Chuck were sparring buddies years back.  Word has been Chuck always got the better of Tito in training.  Tito fought Chuck once before the other night and Chuck accidently poked Tito in the eye, Tito was blinded, Chuck followed through and KO'd him.  What you saw was their rematch.

Personally i can't wait until we get Rampage Jackson vs Chuck.

Chuck's MMA Record is 20-3.  The 3 defeats were to Couture, who he has beaten twice since, Jeremy Horn, who he has beaten since and, Rampage.  I watched their fight again today.  It was in the PRIDE Middleweight Tournament 2003.  Now although it was a PRIDE event they had let Chuck enter, Dana had an arrangement with them and mouthed off how Chuck would beat their guys he even bet $250k with them that he'd win the whole tournament.  First match he won, second match Rampage demolished him.  Chuck's corner threw the towel in before he got too battered.  It is a great fight to watch and the most hilarious thing is Dana White on commentary.  He was so pissed off with Chuck.  He was going on about how he wasn't following the game plan and he should be throwing more leg kicks and should be getting knee's in there and how he's not doing what they planned him to do, great stuff to listen to.  Since then Chuck has changed.  Watching that fight Rampage fought more like Chuck does now than Chuck did.  Plenty of overhand hooks, Chuck had a much closer guard rather than the arms down come and hit me technique he employs now.  He was mainly tryin' to jab away.  For me though this fight will be good, they have plenty of backstory.  Now it's not official but it's inevitable.  Rampage has signed with UFC and makes his debut at UFC 67 against Marvin "The Beastman" Eastman who is 0-2 in the UFC and probably had the single most boring round of fighting with Travis Lutter that i have ever seen.  Chances are Rampage will win (Eastman has a decision victory over him but it's from a long time ago...) then he's gonna try and fuck up Chuck, Chuck is better now though and he should avenge this loss aswell, he's on his home turf, fighting in the octagon is a lot different to a ring. :yes:

it was good to see Andrei Arlovski win, he looks like hes back to business now!

I wanted Forrest Griffin to win but no such luck. But glad to see Chris Leben lose, I can't stand him at all!

kool thanks for the help...from what i have heard about tito he doesnt sound like the type of person to give up not come back one day and win :D i can hope lol

The following is from UFC.com:

St. Pierre Injured; Out of UFC 67

UFC Welterweight Champion Georges St. Pierre has been forced to withdraw from February 3rd?s UFC 67 card due to a knee injury suffered during training for his first title defense against Matt Serra. The rest of the card, which includes the UFC Middleweight title bout between Anderson Silva and Travis Lutter, as well as the UFC debuts of Quinton ?Rampage? Jackson and Mirko ?CroCop? Filipovic, remains intact. Stay tuned to UFC.com for more information as it becomes available.


The following is the latest official card for the next UFC Fight Night on Spike TV, scheduled for January 25th from the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Florida:

-Rashad Evans vs. Sean Salmon
-Dean Lister vs. Nathan Marquardt
-Heath Herring vs. Jake O'Brien
-Hermes Franca vs. Spencer Fisher
-Ed Herman vs. Chris Price

Reall shame about GSP, would of been nice for him to get a defence under his belt.

The Fight Night line-up looks good.? Dean "Boogeyman" Lister, Tito's buddy is good to watch and Rashad Evans was great in his last fight.? Hermes Franca is a really good underated fighter to and with the re-emergance of the Lightweight Division it would be good to see him get a shot at Sean Shrek.? Plus can Ed Herman get a victory after his poor debut, to be honest i don't like the guy and i would love to see him lose again, his heart does not seem into it he seems to be a cocky bastard and there are much more deserving people who should have his spot.

The following are the REPORTED official pay outs to fighters who competed on the December 30th UFC 66 "Liddell vs. Ortiz 2" show. Remember that in the case of main eventers, fighters receive undisclosed percentages of the PPV revenue. In the case of any fighter, they could have received any number of special bonuses UFC gives out that wouldn't be mentioned here.

-Chuck Liddell ($250,000) def. Tito Ortiz ($210,000)

-Andrei Arlovski ($145,000) def. Marcio Cruz ($5,000)

-Michael Bisping ($24,000) def. Eric Schafer ($4,000)

-Keith Jardine ($14,000) def. Forrest Griffin ($16,000)

-Jason MacDonald ($10,000) def. Chris Leben ($7,000)

-Thiago Alves ($22,000) def. Tony DeSouza ($7,000)

-Gabriel Gonzaga ($18,000) def. Carmelo Marrero ($5,000)

-Yushin Okami ($16,000) def. Rory Singer ($5,000)

-Christian Wellisch ($6,000) def. Anthony Perosh ($3,000)

Total disclosed: $767,000

Word is, that Couture is coming out of retirement to face Tim Slyvia at UFC 68, still at this point it's only rumour but it's expected it will be announced thursday night on Inside The UFC.

Was anyone ever undeafeated in UFC (not including people who only fought once or twice) say 15 times or more has anyone gone undefeated?

basically i'm asking all those in the know who is the greatest fighter in UFC (other organisations too) history. I've only started following it recently and would like to know

The only current undefeated fighter is Diego Sanchez but he is only like 4-0 in the UFC or something like that. His overall record is like 18-0 or something.

Everyone swears FEDOR is the greatest fighter ever, but I am not so sure.

Its really tough to say to be honest.

Greatest fighter ever....hard to say...that's a BIG title....

Greatest Heavyweight today.....easily :yes: :yes:

If you include TUF3 Finale then Bisping is 2-0, which isn't much but, his Pro Record is 12-0.

Including TUF Finale Sanchez is 6-0 in the UFC.

Brandon "The Truth" Vera is 4-0 in the UFC with a pro record of 8-0.

Randy Couture appeared on "Inside the UFC" on Spike TV this past Thursday night and dropped his bombshell announcement.

And his announcement was this. He'll be returning to the octagon - to fight, at the age of 43 he'll be returning to his old stomping grounds of the Heavyweight division to challenge the champion Tim Sylvia.

That's right, coming from the 205 lb. weight class when he retired, Couture will take on the 6'8'' 265 lb. Heavyweight champion in his first fight back at UFC 68 "The Uprising" in Ohio for his title belt.

Randy Couture went on to announce that he signed a four-fight, two-year contract that will see him competing in the eight-sided cage until he is 45 years old.

He's a former two-time Heavyweight champion, two-time Light Heavyweight champion and UFC Hall of Famer. Will he be able to add another amazing accolade to his already astonishing career? We'll find out March 3, 2007 live on pay-per view when UFC 68 "The Uprising" hits the Nationwide Arena in Ohio.

i really hope Couture wins the title, he used to be amazing on his day & watching him in The Ultimate Fighter has been great

Sometimes I think the UFC is too wrestler Friendly.

I think the UFC should have a clock and maybe have 30 seconds on it.

Once u score a takedown, U have 30 seconds to knockout or submit your opponent. If u dont, u automatically get stood back up.

I am tired of wrestlers laying and praying their way to victory after victory. Fights that involve wrestlers normally are snorefests.

I guess you are saying that after what happened to Heath Herring.

He was an ASSHOLE.

No takedown defence and he got totally dominated, if he'd of been against somebody half decent with ground skills he would of been choked out.

Also at the end of the fight he was being stupid.  He was being domianted, admittedly O'Brien wasn't doing much but to be complaining to the referee rather than trying to move him was utter bullshit.

I think everyone has different styles they like.  I think to zone in on the "Wrestlers" as being boring is unfair.  Boring covers all the styles, boring is those guys who are just playing for points which annoys the hell out of me.

Prime example Tim Sylvia, a striker always on the defensive happy to keep ahead on points due to his reach and win that way but refuses to get stuck in because he knows his opponenets are far more skillful and given half a chance they'd batter him.

I'm sick of the stand-up matches where it's just a points battle, i think that happens to often, it's good to see guys who just go at it and are good at everything.

Hermes Franca rules, loved his fight, i've seen him get great knockouts, submissions and throws, always entertaining and he's fighting Sherk in July.

Rashad Evans KO was sick, word is the guy was out cold for SEVEN MINUTES.  Now i know he could claim it was "Instinct" or he was just making sure, but hitting the guy when he was down was a bit uncalled for he was clearly out cold, but yeah whatever.

Ed Herman's submission was damn impressive, still, i'll reserve judgment on him until he beats someone decent.

It wasn't shown but i heard Dean Lister got totally dominated and lost, shame, hopefully he'll make a good comeback.

Also heard Ross Pointon lost again  :hihi: :hihi:  His pro record is now 4-8.  8 of those losses being in his last 9 fights :rofl:

MMA fighting like UFC was started to descover which style of fighting was the best....if it was up to me i would have no rules other then hair pulling and groin strikes

They did that and got banned in the US and couldn't get carried by PPV...
The only reason this sport is being talked about in the US is because of the current ownership. By moving to Las Vegas and getting sanctioned by boxing commisions they have made it a semi mainstream sport that is now out selling almost every major boxing PPV. Liddell v. Ortiz and Ortiz v. Shamrock were the two highest selling PPV's this year.

Saturay night February 3rd at 10PM ET (7PM CT), Ultimate Fighting Championsihp presents UFC 67: ALL or NOTHING live on Pay-Per-View.

The event takes place from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada and features a huge main event as well as the UFC debuts of Mirko Cro Cop and Quinton "RAMPAGE" Jackson. The official card for the show is as follows:

"Dark" Fights that will air if time allows:
Terry Martin Vs. Jorge Rivera
Frank Edgar Vs. Tyson Griffin
Sam Hoger Vs. Lyoto Machida
Diego Saraieva Vs. Dustin Hazelett

Fights that will air LIVE on PPV:
Anderson Silva vs. Travis Lutter
John Halverson vs. Roger Huerta
Mirko Cro Cop vs. Eddie Sanchez
Quinton "RAMPAGE" Jackson vs. Marvin Eastman
Patrick Cote vs. Scott Smith

Predictions
Silva
Rampage
Huerta
Cro Cop
Cote

I really hope the Lyoto Machida fight airs.  I have heard great things about him.  To be honest i think it's a damn shame that his debut may not even be aired since prior to the UFC he has been 8-0, defeating Bonnar, Penn and the only person other than Silva to defeat Franklin.

Looks like a fairly predictable show, it should be fun though with highlight reel finishes to be expected in most of the fights and the chance to see some fantastic fighters begin their UFC journey....

 tyson Griffin is suppose to be one  of the next big stars in the UFC, So Id like to see his fights.


Cote vs Smith should be an excellent stand up war.

Well you know what i like to see.... ::)

That's definately the fight i am not looking forward to, it does depend on how it goes though.

A war like Drago vs Smith is cool, but Cote i don't think will be that aggressive i think he'll play for points and edge the decision, either that or catch out a frustrated Smith late on....

Travis Lutter couldnt make weight, So he got fined 10 percent of his purse and its no longer a title shot, it is a 3 round non title bout.

What a fucking TooL!

UFC is coming to the UK, having been ill recently and away from my club unfortunately i have not been able to sort tickets out...yet, but hopefully speaking to the "right" people should rectify that.

Cro Cop's next fight is at UFC70, White has said if he wins he's facing the winner of Sylvia vs Couture.

Bisping is rumoured to be fighting Elvis Sinosic.  People may look at his UFC record and slate him, 1-5, but he's a good fighter, his losses have been to decent guys, he could be a tricky fight, Bisping should still win though.

Heath "I made an ass of myself" Herring is getting another fight soon to, let's see if he actually does something worthwhile this time.

Hey D and Stoned

I got a friend who is really into this sorta thing and he tells me that UFC isn't as good as PRIDE.

He was telling me the story that you were telling at the top of the page about Chuck.

He says that its happened a few times where UFC has thrown a guy into another company and they never do well.

Is that because of the different rings or is PRIDE really better

Depends what weight division you look at.

PRIDE heavyweights are far superior to UFC's whereas UFC has a far better Welterweight Division.  Until recently, overall, i would say PRIDE had better fighters but with the way the company is going and fighters are jumping ship that's changing.  PRIDE is a different ball game, you are in a ring, not cage.  You can push them up against the cage and ground and pund, you get the the edge of the ring and they drag you back to the middle and restart it their.  In PRIDE stomping and soccer kicks are legal, they aren't in UFC, in UFC elbows are legal making it easier to win via cuts, in PRIDE they are illegal.  Totally different ball game really.  I recommend you download some PRIDE shows though, it makes great viewing.

At the end of the day both promotions are great.....here's something from mmanews.com gives you an idea of who's the top dog and where....

PRIDE
UFC
OTHER

LIGHT WEIGHT DIVISION (155 LBS.)

1. Takanori Gomi
2. Tatsuya Kawajiri
3. Mitsuhiro Ishida
4. Marcus Aurelio
5. Vitor Ribeiro
6. Hayato Sakurai
7. Sean Sherk
8. Hermes Franca
9. Joachim Hansen
10. Gilbert Melendez


WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170 LBS.)

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Matt Hughes
3. B.J. Penn
4. Diego Sanchez
5. Karo Parisyan
6. Jon Fitch
7. Jake Shields
8. Akira Kikuchi
9. Josh Koscheck
10. Nick Diaz


MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION (185 LBS.)

1. Matt Lindland
2. Anderson Silva
3. Paulo Filho
4. Kazuo Misaki
5. Dan Henderson
6. Rich Franklin
7. Nathan Marquardt
8. Denis Kang
9. Amar Suloev
10. Murilo Bustamante

LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (205 LBS.)

1. Chuck Liddell
2. Mauricio Rua
3. Wanderlei Silva
4. Ricardo Arona
5. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6. Tito Ortiz
7. Kazuhiro Nakamura
8. Renato Sobral
9. Quinton Jackson
10. Alistair Overeem


HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (up to 265 LBS.)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Mirko Cro Cop
3. Josh Barnett
4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
5. Tim Sylvia
6. Andrei Arlovski
7. Fabricio Werdum (Was PRIDE, signed with UFC debuts at UFC70)
8. Brandon Vera
9. Mark Hunt
10. Aleksander Emelianenko


POUND FOR POUND (No Limit)

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Georges St. Pierre
4. Paulo Filho
5. Mirko Cro Cop
6. Matt Lindland
7. Matt Hughes
8. Josh Barnett
9. B.J. Penn
10. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira  

so tito isn't in top 10. i thought he was like one of the best

He IS dude.

Firstly that list is not "Official" it's merely the view of the staff at mmanews.com but overall i think they are fairly spot on.

And those PRIDE guys they rate above him, they are fantastic, a lot of this is guesswork though, being in different companys they haven't fought (Well Ortiz beat Wanderlai but that was like 6 or 7 years since) so it's hard to say who would win.

And hell dude, being rated as the No.6 Light-Heavyweight in the WORLD is pretty damn good, if i can just scrape into one of these lists one day i will be an extremely proud guy.

The main point of me showing these lists was to show both promotions have fantastic fighters and have strengths and weaknesses depending on which division you look at......

Pride also have 10 minute rounds whereas UFC are 5 minute rounds.


Im not a huge fan of Pride.  Their fighters are great but I think the UFC is way more entertaining.

Im going up to columbus today to watch the and meet the fighters weigh in. i cant wait, im gonna talk so much shit to tim silvia, i hate that cave troll.

^
That is awesome

Let us know how it all goes.

I'll be watching it live tomorrow night via PPV.

It was awsome, everbody boo'd the hell out of tim silvia and cheered for Randy. Huuuuge turn out, 19,000 plus people attended.

heres some strange news:

LAS VEGAS -- " Nevada regulators today approved an unusual grudge match between Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White and the "bad boy" of Huntington Beach, Calif., Tito Ortiz.

White is the 37-year-old president of the mixed-martial arts promotion company that has become a heavyweight in the pay-per-view business. Ortiz (15-5-0) is one of its toughest, most popular combatants.

Ortiz made the three-round match -- " in which both fighters will box only, no grappling -- " a condition of his recent contract negotiations.

White was once Ortiz' manager, but the two "had a real bad falling out" in 2003, White said.

"The last time Tito and I boxed was six years ago, and he's a lot better than he was six years ago," White said after a hearing at the Nevada Athletic Commission, which approved the fight 3-1. "I'm a lot older than I was six years ago, so we'll see."

Regulators expressed concern that White would be seriously hurt by Ortiz, 32.

But most commissioners were reassured by sparring tapes showing White in the ring against another heavyweight from two months ago. White said he's been training since last July.

"I've seen Tito as a boxer, and he's probably not as good as you are," commission chair Dr. Tony Alamo told White.

Ortiz will weigh in at 205 pounds, while White weighs 196 pounds, both the boxing equivalent of heavyweight fighters.

The fight March 24 will likely take place at the UFC training center in Las Vegas and be broadcast later on the company's Web site, www.ufc.com, the company said.

Oh dear lord they're turning into the WWE. :rofl:

I'll still watch it though, what if Dana whips his ass?

It was announced on the "Beatdown" radio show on Sherdog.com by writer Josh Gross that Chute Boxe stand-out Mauricio "Shogun" Rua has signed a new unique fight contract.

In what has to be considered another sign that there is a deal between DSE (Dreamstage Entertainment) and the Fertitta brothers (Frank and Lorenzo, UFC owners) involving the future of PRIDE, Shogun signed a new contract that calls for two fights under the PRIDE banner, and two for the UFC.

Nothing much other than that was mentioned, but that's another huge coup for the UFC if true. Not only do they have Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and "Lyoto" Ryoto Machida to spice up their Light Heavyweight division, with Rashad Evans and Keith Jardine rising up the ranks and now Mauricio "Shogun" Rua added to the mix, Chuck Liddell's future just got a lot busier.

Shogun is the best Light Heavyweight besides Chuck hell he might be better, Shogun is way better than Rampage that's for sure so he best get worried.  Fighting in the UFC though will change things for him a lot, this guy specialises in Stomps, Soccer Kicks which are illegal in the UFC and he's also used to fighting in a ring not being pushed or pushing people up against a cage....

heres a big announcement!:

Source: MMAWeekly

It's been rumored for months but now the deal is completed. Several major Japanese newspapers (including "SportsHochi") are confirming today that Frank Fertitta of the Zuffa company (which owns UFC) has purchased PRIDE Fighting Championship.

Fertitta will disband Dream Stage Entertainment (the former parent company of PRIDE) and form a new entity that will be seperate from UFC and its parent company, Zuffa, LLC. Pride 34 on April 8th will be the final PRIDE show under the DSE company.

PRIDE will continue to run shows in both Japan and the United States.

Although PRIDE will be run seperately from UFC, there are plans to run an annual supershow event on Pay-Per-View featuring fighters and dream matches from both companies (!!).

Recently there were rumors that the McMahons were interested in entering the world of mixed martial arts and were considered potential buyers for PRIDE. Those plans have clearly fallen through.

There is a press conference scheduled for tomorrow at the Roppongi Hills Arena in Tokyo to announce further details on this huge acquisiion.

It's official.





UFC acquires Pride

Multimillion-dollar deal includes all assets

By KEVIN IOLE
REVIEW-JOURNAL
The owners of the Ultimate Fighting Championship scooped up their primary rival Monday, reaching a multimillion-dollar deal to purchase the Japanese-based Pride Fighting Championship.

UFC president Dana White said he and partners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta formed a new company, Pride Worldwide, that purchased the assets of the Pride FC.

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White, who said the deal was completed about 1:30 p.m. PDT Monday, would not reveal the purchase price, but intimated it was an eight-figure deal.

"I don't like to talk about money, but it was a lot of money, I can tell you that," White said by telephone from Japan. "It was a hell of a lot more than Barry Bonds is making."

Bonds, the second-leading home run hitter in baseball history, signed a $15.8 million, one-year deal with the San Francisco Giants in February.

The UFC deal transfers all Pride assets, including fighter contracts, fight video library and trademarks, to the new company. White said he would retain Pride's Japanese employees and that the company's planned April 7 show would go on as planned in Tokyo.

Pride has many of the sport's best fighters, including heavyweight champion Fedor Emialenenko, Wanderlei Silva, Dan Henderson, Shogun Rua, Takanori Gomi and Hayato Sakurai, signed to promotional contracts.

White said Pride would adopt the same rules that are used in the United States and expressed a desire to use the so-called unified rules around the world. Soccer kicks and knees to the head were legal in Pride fights in Japan, but they were outlawed in two shows that were held at the Thomas & Mack Center.

However, White said any fight held with the Pride banner would continue to be in a ring. UFC fights are in a cage.

"This is a sport and we're going to follow the unified rules that were established in New Jersey and then in Nevada," White said. "It's a sport -- mixed martial arts -- and the sport should have the same rules everywhere. As far as I'm concerned, if an organization doesn't follow these rules, it's not MMA. It's something else, but that's not MMA."

White said he will create a "Super Bowl" of MMA that will match the best fighters in Pride against the best in the UFC. White said he hadn't had time to think through the logistics, but said the concept could become the biggest annual event in the sport.

He said he has the option to use Pride fighters in UFC shows if he chooses, but plans to run distinct brands.

"Pride is a powerful brand," White said. "The winners in this are the fans, because they're going to see the question answered. How many times have I heard someone say, 'Pride is better,' or 'UFC is better?' Well, wherever you come down on that, we'll answer the question because we'll make certain we put them in with each other and get an answer."

One of Pride's downfalls in the last year in Japan was the loss of its contract with Fuji TV. White said it was one of the new ownership group's leading priorities to negotiate a new television deal in Japan.
 

UFC 69: Shootout (April 7th)

Fight Card

Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra
Diego Sanchez vs. Josh Koscheck
Roger Huerta vs. Leonard Garcia
Mike Swick vs. Yushin Okami
Alan Belcher vs. Kendall Grove

Non-Televised

Brad Imes vs. Heath Herring
Thales Leites vs. Pete Sell
Marcus Davis vs. Pete Spratt
Josh Haynes vs. Luke Cummo

So that's the final card for this coming weekend.  Nothing amazing, it will be good to see Kendall fighting again and Swick is damn good.  Only fight i am really looking forward to though is Sanchez vs. Koscheck, i think this will be great.  GSP will beat Serra in the 1st Round, I like Serra but he's just not at that level and the 4 inch height advantage GSP has doesn't help either...

I am crying in shame GSP lost  :crying:

I was utterly shocked and speachless at Serra's peformance. well done. but GSP will always be my fighter of choice.

I was also glad to see Koscheck beat that little bitch Sanchez.

I had extremely low expectations for this card but it turned out to be an ok PPV.


Swick defeated himself mentally after the first round, he refused to let his hands go and that is what beat him.



I dont know what happened to Diego, the guy just didnt come to fight. He did absolutely nothing.


I was jumping up and down and was absolutely speechless when Serra TKO'd GSP, I was screaming WTF, WTF, Holy SHIT over and over and over. I had chills all over my body. I cant believe that Matt Serra holds the Welterweight title. It is insane and still doesnt seem possible.

GSP losing shocked the hell out of me. Was defiantly one of those holy fucking shit moments.

good call stoned.

thats Jim like jugdementv :rofl: :rofl:

everybody thought GSP was gonna win. not just him.

I know i was just jesting. He isn't often wrong : ok:

I heard that it was the biggest upset in history of UFC.

Any other contenders besides this one folks

A mixed show.? The first 2 fights were fairly dull, Machida's fight got going near the end but was dull mostly as was Kongo's.? Bisping's fight was great to watch, he totally dominated Elvis in the 1st Round and it was nervous watching the 2nd round when he went down and i could of sworn that kimura was on, good to see him recover and win in style.? The next fight was fairly dull as well i'm not a kickboxer and therefore i like to see more ground stuff, but obviously i love seeing awesome knockouts, i hate it though when someone clearly plays for the decision win and doesn't get stuck in, Arlovski's fight was a "tactical" win, smart...yes, boring...yes.? The Main Event though, WOW, it featured one of the best and most shocking knockouts ever, Cro Cop, knocked out with a kick to the head, and the way he fell down, i was surprised to see him standing it looked like he could of fucked his ankle and knee.

Holy shit  :o :o

I thought Gabriel Gonzaga would win if it went to the ground. But didn't expected dude to knock Mirko Cro Co the FUCK OUT!!!,especially with a kick.

Pride is the most overrated organization EVER.


Cro Cop :hihi:

Cro Cop got a taste of his own medicine. It was a good fight.

Im very happy for Bisping.

The following is a message from NathanQuarry.net, the official website of UFC fighter and Ultimate Fighter season one veteran Nate "The Rock" Quarry:

I?M BACK . . . I AM SO BACK. THE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE BEEN A REAL JOURNEY - THE JOY OF VICTORY AND THE AGONY OF DEFEAT. AFTER FIGHTING FOR THE UFC MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE IN NOVEMBER 2005 I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A POTENTIALLY CAREER ENDING BACK CONDITION. I UNDERWENT A RADICAL NEW SPINAL SURGERY, GOT SOME PARTS REPLACED AND NOW I?M THE BIONIC MAN - BETTER THAN I WAS BEFORE . . . BETTER, STRONGER, FASTER.

I?LL BE FIGHTING IN THE UFC AGAIN VERY SOON - WHEN I HAVE DEFINITE DATES, I?LL POST IN ON MY WEBSITE AND SEND OUT A BULLETIN ON WWW.MYSPACE.COM/ROCKQUARRY. ADD ME TO YOUR ?FRIENDS LIST? ON MYSPACE AND YOU CAN GET MY INSTANT UPDATES. WHEN I GET BACK IN THE OCTAGON LOOK OUT - I?LL BE THROWING SOME ?ROCK? HARD PUNCHES WITH MY CONCRETE FISTS.

TO MY FANS - I READ EVERY EMAIL THAT YOU SEND - YOU INSPIRE ME TO GO THE EXTRA MILE. I WISH I COULD RESPOND TO EVERYONE PERSONALLY, BUT I KNOW YOU?D RATHER HAVE ME TRAINING AND NOT SITTING AT THE COMPUTER. WHAT I?LL DO FOR YOU GUYS IS CHOOSE THE MOST COMMON QUESTIONS AND ANSWER THEM IN MY MYSPACE.COM/ROCKQUARRY BLOG. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT!

-NATE ?ROCK? QUARRY

Great news, it will be good to see him back...

Fighters in Pride are pretty badass pal.

yeah pretty basass at getting their ass's hand to them. : ok: :hihi:

okay. agree to diagree.

Pride has some good fighters but haven't seen any of them translate to the UFC that well.

Anderson Silva...The Middleweight Champion

shit forgot about that dude .Well almost all the pride guys haven't been impressive when the go over to the ufc.

Rumoured card so far from MMAweekly........

UFC 72: JUNE 16, 2007 IN BELFAST, NORTHERN IRELAND

-Rich Franklin vs. Martin Kampmann
-Forrest Griffin vs. Hector Ramirez
-Tyson Griffin vs. Clay Guida
-Jason MacDonald vs. Rory Singer
-Eddie Sanchez vs. Colin Robinson
-Marcus Davis vs. TBA

Smith, Herman to Battle in Belfast on June 16th

Middleweight prospects Scott Smith and Ed Herman will try to further establish themselves in the competitive 185-pound weight class when they square off in a preliminary bout on June 16th?s UFC 72 card, which will be held at The Odyssey in Belfast, Northern Ireland.

UFC 72: Victory, is headlined by the middleweight bout between former UFC champion Rich ?Ace? Franklin and versatile Danish contender Martin ?The Hitman? Kampmann. Tickets are on sale now.

Best remembered for his all-out war with Pete Sell at The Ultimate Fighter 4 finale last November, Scott ?Hands of Steel? Smith will look to repeat that spectacular knockout victory when he steps into the Octagon on June 16th. To do so, he?ll have to come out throwing bombs with the abandon that has made him a fan favorite in the California area and which has allowed him to compile an impressive 13-3 MMA record.

A finalist from season three of The Ultimate Fighter whose performance in a razor-thin loss to Kendall Grove was so impressive it garnered him a UFC contract, Ed ?Short Fuse? Herman (14-4) will bring an aggressive style and a hunger for victory into Belfast as he tries to keep the momentum from his January submission win over Chris Price going against the hardest puncher he?s faced in the UFC thus far.

From UFC.com

That card is rotten, just because it's outside America, can't they put an effort on.

I mean UFC 70 only had 2 good matches and that had zero title matches to.

These events are looking like one step above Fight Night but one step below a REAL PPV.....

Forrest Griffins match is the only one im remotley interested in

Franklin's match should be good, but billing that as the Main Event is bullshit!

yep, it sure shows where UFC's priorities lie

Anderson SIlva, the same guy who was THIS CLOSE to getting arm barred by a C level fighter in Travis Lutter.


Pride have some great fighters but they dont elbow in Pride so that makes it a lot easier being on your back.

In PRIDE you can stomp and use soccer kicks, whereas you can't in UFC so thats changing several scenario's as well, don't forget what happened when Chuck & Ricco went to PRIDE.... :P

Chuck is 2-1 in Pride... After he scores a first round KO of Rampage I want to hear what the Pride argument is going to be.

So what if he beats Rampage, as i've already said he's not the guy he was in 2003 i fully expect Quinton to lose.? Just seems everyone loves to slate PRIDE.? Cro Cop get's knocked out and all of a sudden PRIDE sucks.? If Shogun and Fedor get slaughtered by UFC guys i may start to believe it...

...and as for Anderson Silva being "This Close" to being armbared by a C-Level Fighter, Lutter's a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so he's got a damn good ground game, yeah he came close but he still lost and it's also been stated since he was carrying an injury going in hence the reason he had pretty much no take down defence...

I mean really Rampage/Cro Cop DO NOT define all that is PRIDE they don't even come close.  Yes they are 2 of the promotions best fighters but hell send 2 decent UFC guys over to PRIDE and if they lose does that make PRIDE the better promotion? so those 2 losing to UFC guys under UFC rules does not make UFC better....

I'm not saying Pride sucks... but their fighters are proving they are not "on another level" compared to UFC Figters. The only point Pride fans can seem to bring up is "look what happened when Chuck went to Pride".... and to that I say he went 2-1 (Overeem (KO) Metzger (KO)) and it wasn't Pride rules that beat Chuck (it was a similar bad gameplan to the Couture fight).

We had the chance to see their best LHW (Silva) against UFC's best LHW (Liddell) and low and behold Silva has been no where to be found after calling Chuck out... actually he got KO'd twice.

Silva's profile as PRIDE's best LHW has slipped, Shogun has been the man for a long while now, both being Chute Boxe though they would not fight each other so Shogun could never get the title, now he's lost the title, things are different.

I think the best way to settle this will be the SuperShows which i can't wait for.  They should have 2 a year, 1 in PRIDE and 1 in UFC. :yes: I'm still pissed though that they are changing PRIDE rules... :no:

Chuck Liddell vs Shogun
Andrei Arlovski vs Josh Barnett
Randy Couture vs Fedor Emelianenko
Takanori Gomi vs Georges St. Pierre
Dan Henderson vs Anderson Silva
Mark Hunt vs Gabriel Gonzaga
Aleksander Emelianenko vs Tim Sylvia
Tito Ortiz vs Wanderlai Silva

There's so many possibilities..... :yes:

Another thing that I think is an issue for the Pride fighters entering the UFC... They are too small. Chuck Liddell walks around bigger than Cro Cop for example. Cro Cop fights at his natural weight, Chuck cuts to 205 from 228-235. Fedor for example bulks up for fights from 225 he could easily cut to 205. The majority of Pride Heavy's are no larger than Chuck or Tito.

As far as the rules changes... Zuffa wants to be able to have Pride travel. They could never hold a Pride event in the US with it's existing rules, they wouldn't get sanctioned by SAC's. Besides all we are really talking about are stomps, soccer kicks, and knees to the head when on the ground... which in the long run is a good thing. When this sports get deeper into the mainstream those rules will help prove it's not a brutal human cock fight. Plus years down the road you aren't going to see an MMA version of Ali who took 1000 too many shots to the head.

Bullshit Stoned dont give me the "Injury" excuse. Everybody says that when they get beat or have a lackluster performance. I hate it.

Lutter is a C Level Fighter, I dont care about his BJJ black belt as an overall MMA fighter he is C level at best and he has Silva on his back at will. Imagine what a good wrestler would do to Silva.

Pride doesnt suck but it has vastly been overrated by people who do this withe verything.


UFC is mainstream so people love to hate on Mainstream things and act like more underground lesser known things are better and superior when in reality they arent.


Rampage may not be the same fighter as he was in 2003 but Chuck is 100 times better since then so if Chuck's victory doesnt mean much, rampage's doesnt mean much in 03.

The truth is they both have great fighters for that organazation. but doesn't mean that they transfer well to the other. i

Dude, i know that excuse is used a lot but have you ever thought that sometimes it's true.  Silva's takedown defence become non existent it was pretty obvious if you've seen him before that something was wrong you don't just lose the ability to block takedowns because Lutter's takedown attempts were hardly wonderful....

....and don't forget how he demolished Franklin...is he a C level fighter?

Dude you should know me better than that.  Now i prefer PRIDE because you get loads more ground based stuff, lot's more submission fighting which as you know is my thing whereas UFC you are getting more and more stand up.  Look back at Gonzaga vs Cro Cop, Gonzaga was dominating him on the ground with elbows, doing damage and they got stood up that was bullshit but that was a combination of appeasing the fans and protecting Cro Cop, no way should they of been stood up.

He's hardly a 100 times better you are prone to exagerrating a tad :P my point is, he's got better Rampage hasn't.  Rampage has lost that aggression that Mike Tyson like killer instinct, i'll be shocked if Rampage wins, if he does i'd put it down to Chuck being nervous due to what happened in 2003....

...The whole point of a "PRIDE" vs "UFC" thing is the best in each weight division facing off.  Well Rampage was NOT the best LightHeavyweight in PRIDE, Henderson, Shogun & Wanderlai are all superior....

...as for UFC vs PRIDE the first fight in the MMA Series occured at PRIDE 34 and Monson won so it's 1-0 to UFC, for now. ;)

Both promotions i love watching, both have great fighters and both have some poor fighters, what annoyed the hell out of me was the way people were jumping up and down laughing when Cro Cop lost saying PRIDE sucks, that became the general consensus on many of the forums based on one fight which is bullshit.


Spot on.  Look at guys like Wanderlai and Shogun these guys finish their opponents with soccer kicks and stomps, hell they aren't even legal now.

Look at Matt Hughes and Tito Ortiz, they love to shove their opponents into the side of the cage (can't do that in PRIDE) and Tito loves to unleash the ground and pound with those elbows, well in PRIDE he couldn't do that either, well he could now since the rules are being switched (Unfortunately) but before he would of been unable to.

And on the subject of Cro Cop, he's suffered defeats before, shock ones to (See: Randleman) and he's come back stronger, i still expect he to be Champion in time, he's a smart guy who will learn and come back better than ever, one defeat means nothing!

The way I figure it, it's a good buy for the UFC to aquire Pride, but it's gotta be handled properly.  This could easily turn into a WWE WCW type situation if they're not careful.

But there is one guy who Dana doesn't have, and he is the best ever in alot of peoples opinion, and thats Fedor.

Fedor could crush anyone in the UFC in my opinion.

Fedor is amazing, but it's the same situation. He hasn't fought these guys... So who knows.

By the way I have to throw out congratulations to Joe Lauzon (next town over from me)... Great fight on TUF lastnight. Hopefully he fears a little better in the UFC than my other hometown fighter (Alex Karalexis).

Sounds like you got some bad-asses over in your neck of the woods.

Fedor is un-human.  His issue is that he wants to stay and fight in Russia.  I would flip out if Dana does sign him and he fights Couture.

Fedor Emeilianenko Vs Randy Couture. 

The mother of all fights. :beer:

That fight almost happened once:

RINGS
Emelianenko's only loss in MMA came at the hands of Tsuyoshi Kohsaka at the King of Kings 2000 Block B event on December 22, 2000, via a TKO (doctor stoppage due to a cut) 17 seconds into the fight [5]. The cut was caused by an elbow strike reopening a cut sustained in his previous fight against Ricardo Arona, a blow illegal under RINGS rules unless the striker is wearing elbow pads.[16] Since the fight was in a tournament format, a winner and loser was required (no draws and no no-contests) and as he could not go on in the tournament due to the cut Kohsaka moved on (the match would have been a NC or DQ for Kohsaka otherwise). He avenged the loss at the PRIDE Bushido 6 event on April 3, 2005, defeating Kohsaka by TKO due to doctor stoppage after the first round. If Emelianenko had progressed, he would have met Randy Couture in the next round [17].

Massachusetts is one of the Best MMA States in the US. Check out massmma.com

All MA Fighters:
The guy who beat Kimbo on the infamous web video is a Boston Cop (Sean Gannon)
Kenny Florian
Alex Karralexis
Gabriel Gonzaga (trains north of Boston)
Joe Lauzon
Dan Lauzon
Jorge Rivera
and on and on....

Great MMA Scene

My home town fighter is Mike Bisping  :P

Joe Lauzon is good, hell he's already beaten Jens Pulver...

Never understood Lauzon being ont he show.

He beat pulver and never fought in the UFC again.

The show was taped a while ago. He hurt is wrist training after the Jens fight and then went right into the show.
I heard his brother was supposed to be on the show, but is too young. (he;s old enough to fight in the UFC but not be on the show (alcohol in the house))

Can you buy the PPVs via the UFC site? Really wanna watch the next one live and not wait for Bravo to show it on the Monday.

Don't think so, you should be able to get a torrent of it straight after it's happened though so with a decent connection you could have it downloaded to watch early sunday...

http://video.ufc.com/

Bad stopage... Liddell was covering up when Big John jumped in and stopped it. I have seen worse stopages, but Chuck could have continued... he was totally with it when the fight was stopped.

.................Congrats Rampage...........get used to it.......... It won't last

Wasn't a bad stop. Chucks arms went down and dude wasn't defending .

All in all it was a pretty damn good show .

He was covering up when the fight was stopped...

his arms were at his side when big john stepped in .

Sorry C0ma, Chuck was finished. He didnt know where he was when John jumped in. He went limp that means fights over.

I was pretty shocked that CHuck lost. Though am I the only one who thinks he didn't look to comfortable in their with Jackson ?The way he was moving in there just didn't seem like chuck.   

Limp?

Legs flat out?

"What happened?" comment afterwards...

....Stoppage was fully justified.

I was really surprised though, Rampage came in on a win streak but not an impressive one, he looked ropey against Eastman and won a dodgy split decision over Lindland, great to see him back on top form, he fought a good fight and did not make the mistake most do of being goaded in by Chuck.

Henderson vs Rampage next should be great, Henderson has heavy hands, he's a great fighter his last match with Wanderlai was fantastic, speaking of Wanderlai, it seems this loss for Chuck has a positive for us the viewers, word is Chuck's next fight is against Wanderlai.

Good to see Parysian win again, really like the guy, good to see Judo utilised in the octagon, he's not deserving of a title shot yet, Kosheck should be next in line.

Suprised Kalib won i thought Leben edged it, before the fight Leben had been mouthing off about how it was his last fight of his contract and he wanted more money, after that loss i think he needs to lower his demands or he might be leaving...

Jardine getting knocked out was picture perfect stuff, really enjoyed that, he got a good shot early, flew in then got overpowered.....

Shame to see Ivan lose the guy has looked pretty good in the past, his win over Joe Riggs was a classic...

rewatched it this morning...
Good call by Big John... I think being caught up in the moment last night all i payed attention to was his arms going up and then him popping right up after it ended... but he didn't know where the hell he was.
That's just a bad match up for Chuck. I think if they fought 10 times Ramage wins 9...

I knew Chuck would lose, I just figured it would go a couple of rounds.

Fact of the matter is, Chucky hasn't fought a pure striker since Rampage the first time, he's only fought wrestlers.? And with his partying ways mixed with his age...?

Rampage doesn't have to worry about Chuck.? His goofy-ass boxing technique has finally caught up to him.? A trained boxer like Rampage gets ahold to his ass and you see what happens.

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But now that Hendo is in the UFC, and with the rumors that Shogun has signed, thats what Rampage has to worry about.

Anyone get the feeling that PRIDE is going the WCW way after WWE bought it.  They said they were keeping it as a seperate entity, with a show, maybe enxt year with some big match-ups.  They seem to be having those matches already.  Shogun is meant to be under a UFC contract as is Cro Cop, Rampage, Werdum & Little Nog.  Now Henderson who had 2 PRIDE belts is fighting for a UFC one, what if he wins?  Is he going to jump out both promotions defending all 3 titles?  Also the PRIDE event scheduled for July has been cancelled again, i hope they don't but it seems they may be getting rid of PRIDE, either that or they just don't have a clue what to do with it.  I remember when they bought it word was a lot of contracts did not come with it and they would have to secure people, guys like Barnett, Fedor & Wanderlai are not definate especially with Fedor fighting for BoDog.

With Rampage winning it really does throw the division wide open as to who is the best, it seems some people just can't beat others no matter what, you could go round in circles with who can beat who.  People say Wanderlai has lost it and is nothing now, the guy has DEMOLISHED Rampage twice though, both wins he took him apart, Chuck has taken Tito apart twice, Rampage has taken Chuck apart twice, no one man really stands out as elite and unbeatable in the division anymore.  Henderson is 1-1 with Wanderlai.  The one guy who could be the elite man is Shogun the question is how well does he adapt to UFC rules, he has gone through people soccer kicking and stomping them into submission, he beat Rampage no problem, and his only losses were to Sobral real early in his career and a freak arm injury fighting Coleman.

There are certainly alot of similarities between UFCs aquisition of Pride and the horrendous WCW WWE merger.  I always wondered why Dana said that UFC fighters were superior to Pride fighters, yet he spends 70 million on them.

I also feel sorry for the up and coming UFC fighters who have been put on the back-burner for Pride guys coming in.  I'm concerned about the current state of MMA now that Dana is the friggin' Czar of MMA. 

You are right about Shogun.  Without the soccer kicks and knees on the ground I worry that alot of his atributes will be gone and he might adjust for the worse.

BY the way, you see how fat Tim Silvia looked at UFC 71 when he was out in the crowd?  Dude looked horrible.

UFC fighters arent superior but Pride fighters have been overrated a bit. I mean outside Rampage, Pride havent done so well everywhere else.


I see no point in having two seperate brands, let the best fighters fight and get rid of some of the TUF shit they have on their fighting.

If you did not know who he was you'd of just thought he was some real tall goofball in the crowd, with all these big names covering in his days are numbered...

Many haven't had the chance yet, Fedor, Henderson (He's actually 2-0 in UFC from back in the day), Little Nog, Gomi, Shogun haven't fought in the UFC yet...

Big names from PRIDE.? Cro Cop is 1-1 in UFC, Werdum is 0-1, Anderson Silva is 3-0 and Middleweight Champ and Rampage is 2-0 and Light-Heavyweight Champ, not a bad start...


I like the idea of having 2 seperate companies, there are too many fighers for one even when you get rid of the crap and there is a fair bit to ditch.? I like the idea of keeping them seperate and having a show each year where the champions from each fight each other.? I like a lot of the PRIDE elements (although UFC seems to be getting rid of most), for instance the Grand Prix Tournaments are great and the opportunity to see someone fight twice in one night is decent and a real test....

Edit: I could be wrong, but D do you actually watch much PRIDE?  I've got the impression you haven't bothered with it much and if so then a merger obviously wouldn't bother you because you would not be losing a promotion since you hardly watch it....

Zuffa's main concern in MMA is making it respectable. As long as they own Pride it will run under rules that would allow for U.S. sanctioning. If this weekends fight (probably the largest UFC PPV audience to date) ended with a rampage win by soccer kick to the head, you would be hearing about how brutal the "human cockfighting" is and the talks of ban's would be back to the fore front.
If they keep Pride as a seperate entity it will run in Japan under UFC rules in a UFC cage.

This thread has gone far too quiet so let's get things rolling again....

UFC 72 on paper was a lackluster card but it was ok, the Main Event though was a real bore until the last few minutes when the real Yushin Okami arrived and showed how good he really is.

It's official the next event in the UK will be UFC 75 in London. ?2 Fights confirmed are Champion vs Champion, Rampage vs Henderson as well as Bisping vs Hamill. ?Bisping has messed up at times in his last few fights and shown he has a long way to go but so has Hamill if they keep it standing Bisping should win easily.

UFC 73 Stacked looks like it will live up to it's name the card is really well stacked it looks fantastic. ?Big Nog debuting to demolish Heath Herring, the fantastic Hermes Franca getting his well deserved title shot, Anderson Silva's first official defence and Ken Flo in action, it's the best card since UFC 66.

TUF this season has been much better than the last one (not difficult), i've really enjoyed it. ?The final should be interesting, my money is on Nate Diaz, i like both so i'm not to bothered, but if i had to pick one i'd want Manny to win. ?Originally Spike wanted Sims vs Noah on the final and the match was announced but Dana pissed at what happened on the show said no fucking way is that happening and they will never fight in the UFC, i think it's fair enough it's dicks like that who give the sport a bad reputation.

Pulver vs Penn should be a cracking match i'm hoping and thinking Penn will win, i think Penn is pound for pound one of the best fighters in the world without a doubt.

Here is a recent interview with Pulver....

This is Tom Michel from BuddyTV, and I?m here with MMA fighter and the Ultimate Fighter 5 reality TV show coach, Jens Pulver. Jens, thanks for taking the time to talk to us today.

Hey thanks for having me. I really appreciate it.

Cool so let?s talk a little bit about The Ultimate Fighter. The series is in its fifth generation currently and really has attracted a solid following. What do you think has made the UFC so popular?

I think it answers that age old question, you know in boxing we?re coming around or when those other stand-up sports maybe some kickboxing or even some wrestling. What could happen if you threw in extra? And you know I think, me wrestling through high school, wrestling in college, there was a couple of guys who know that I like to value say, ?Boy, if I could punch though things would be different.? Or you get the boxers out there to do wonderful things with just their hands but you add in, what could happen if they had kicks or if they had take downs. I think MMA and the UFC was just that question and answered that. It was leave everything out there, and it was really no question after an MMA fight because you could do anything. So it kinda just really brought everything together and said ?Alright who?s the best fighters are no matter what their style.?

Very good, yeah. And I think it sort of appeals to the primal sets of a lot of people see inside. Everyone wants to believe that they are fighters at some point in their life. So I?m sure that the Ultimate Fighter 5 was quite an experience for you as a coach. What did you like most and least about the experience?

You know I think least?was the fact that it was a reality show. I think everything happens so fast, we?re talking six weeks. You know and we had sixteen people in there and we had eight on our side, eight on their side, we had to get a whole tournament done so every three days or two days we had people fighting, we had?So we had to adjust to that. Definitely that would be the least, that would be you know the drama, people stuck in these houses you know, not knowing I?m just glad we cut the hammer whole first round so we got to cut weight when we need to cut weight and we got to really decide who fights who and when, but you know the reality series part of it made it tough to be a coach. But the fun side, definitely the up side was the team that I had to coach was unbelievable. We all got along so well and had such a good time if they would?ve focused more on the training they probably wouldn?t have would?ve focused on that because really there wasn?t too much drama, we just did what we did, and we had a good time and everybody that was fired up they were all hungry, they were excited to be there and I mean that was definitely the positive side of it. I mean seeing all these guys ready to go make their mark and it was just a lot of fun.

So was there one thing that happened in the house that the general public isn?t supposed to know about or anything you can share with us that happened in the house that wasn?t televised?

No I think they pretty much televised everything right down to the food fights, the horse that stumbled out there on the granite. I mean, it pretty much showed it all. I mean there was nothing that they didn?t show. Even the fight was showed, though against some people you know didn?t really wanna go out there and publicize the fight but you know, it happened, they got the fight now and even the drinking or whatever you know Cole getting his head shaved, They showed everything. The writing on the wall, you know?I mean I think they showed everything.

Cool. So given your experience, would you do it all over again if you were asked to?

I?d do in a heartbeat. I had so much fun with that team, and I enjoyed it immensely. It snapped me out of this funk that I was in. I had a lot of fun, I could do it again, anytime.

Very cool. So did?gotta ask you this, did Joe Lauzon trash you in the house since he was your last real defeat back in September?

Never. And that was one of those things, you know. I wasn?t so much?I wasn?t worried about Joe talking the trash. I was worried about other people talking it for him. So one thing I got to notice when I got to know Joe, is that he was a sincere guy, and my like for him during the show was genuine. It wasn?t made just for the camera, but I liked him. The more I watched him fight, the more I didn?t hear about him, the more he just trained and worked hard, the better the loss was for me. It wasn?t so embarrassing like you know what, this kid is for real. And he wants to make a legitimate shot at fighting and he does take it seriously so actually it helped me and it was more rehabilitating because he was such a nice guy and he was down to earth that it definitely made things a lot easier and I proved a lot to this guy. I helped him a lot. I thinked the world to him and I hope the best for him in fighting and his fighting career.

We all liked him as well. We all expect to see a different Jens Pulver in the upcoming Penn fight for sure what we saw on the Lauzon fight. Now that you?ve beat BJ once before approaching this fight?is this upcoming fight with him any differently than when you beat him back in 2002?

Oh absolutely. I mean I mess around people ask me you know I got to state the fact. The fact is I was an underdog the first time and I came out, I beat him. In my fight in the same BJ, no way. If he?s gonna fight the same Jens Pulver, absolutely not. For me it?s a kinetic. I got the game plan, I?ve been training extremely hard. There are no excuses. I?m ready, I?ve already had my embarrassing little bump in the UFC road so I got no excuses there. I?m ready to get after it, I know BJ is gonna come and break shape, I?m definitely gonna be fighting the toughest BJ Penn anyone?s ever seen because one, he?s gotta run just to make 155. He?s gonna be in better shape just cause of the running he has to do to make the weight. And we?ve come so far from five years ago, we fought the first time you know he?s got a lot of great fights. He?s been to different weight classes and won a world title he?s always been gaining for, you know this is just something else. We were pitted against each other from the beginning, we were rivals from the minute he stepped on the scene and that just never died. It never went away, and now we get to turn around and we get to fight again. Do I sit and go ?Oh I?m winning. I?ve got the upper hand.? No. But at the same token, the reality is that I was the underdog the first time you know going into this one, BJ?s got a little bit you know? Favorite, underdog, to hell with that. I was the favorite last time and I lost so he looks at himself as being the underdog and I don?t necessarily really want to fight underdog feeling BJ Penn. That?s gonna be tough so I just always put myself on the same spot. I?m an underdog, you know, I?m counted out, and I just need to prove people wrong and that?s what I enjoy doing.

Once you step into the Octagon with BJ how do you see this fight playing out?

You know I think right of the bat I?m pretty sure I?m expecting take downs. I expecting him to shoot, I?m expecting him to shoot from away, I don?t know. I?m not saying I got the greatest hands in the world, but the reality is my win ratio has been a lot of fights by knock out, I do a lot of damage standing up, I?ve been working on my hands, I?m not going to go armbar for armbar with this guy. I?m gonna go in there and I?m just gonna do a fight. I?m gonna fight, and that?s all there is to it. Everything pretty is going out the window and I?m gonna go in and I?m gonna roughhouse. I?m gonna make everything he does hard. I?m expecting him to shoot, I know he wants to get me down on the ground and he wants to get me out in that first round. He?s very strong in the first round and if he can, he wants to apply the submission you know. Getting BJ to stay on top of you that?s a nightmare. You do not want that guy on top of you. He is too good. And the reality is, I just get out there and push the pace. Get the sweat going, and start getting up the fatigue so that my hands are still on the same bombs that I plan on showing on the first place. So I?m just really going out there open face. When they say go, I wanna be first, I wanna be last, I wanna be everything in the middle.

I am close to being strictly MMA  and no longer watching wrestling.


I was sick of WWE anyhow and after this Chris Benoit shit, I just can't bring myself to watch anymore...............................





Tito is gonna fucking OWN Rashad Evans Next Saturday.

I don't know why so many people hate on Tito now. The only people he has lost to in the last 5 years have been world champions. No shame in losing to Randy or Chuck.

Tito didnt bitch out against Dana either, They had an agreement, Dana wanted to fuck Tito over and do all the profiting from the fight so Tito pulled out.

MMA fighters get absolutely raped by Dana and the UFC and Tito doesn't allow it to happen to him and I say Great for Tito.


I think Nate Marquardt can take Silva to the limits but I expect Silva to win.

Sean Sherk will also win.

How did u forget Tito vs Rashad on Stacked?

That card is gonna be amazing.

Haha my mistake.  Should be a great fight, people are really split.  On an MMA website i use the poll has it like 800 votes for Tito and 750 for Rashad and the betting odds only have Tito as the very slight favourite.

Odds are now dead even as Randy couture picked Rashad.


Tito better win this fight or he is done.

You don't sound to confident....I was thinking with you being such a big fan you would be backing him all the way, when you sound unsure about a Tito fight you know he's in trouble.... :P

Oh i am 100000000 percent behind Tito

Anything can happen in a fight though and if Tito loses I dont know where he goes from here......... Dana hates him and he has only one fight left.....


It would really suck to not get to see my fav fighter anymore.


I think he will beat Rashad though, Tito looks so much bigger than Rashad and Rashad really has never fought anyone.

george St. Pierre vs josh koshckeck in the next ufc !


GSP needs to win this if he wants his belt back.

How many people were disapointed with "Stacked"?

Personally I think Sean Sherk is bad for the 155 division. He has a very boring style and can't seem to finish a fight. I almost hate making this argument because I can;t stand listening to people who slag off on very good technical ground fights... but with Sherk there is never the feeling that he is going to finish the other fighter with a sub or via GnP. His whole MO is to wear on you for 15 minutes so that you can't gain position on him or mount any offense, which is a great game plan, but it isn;t going to further the following at 155.

How many former Pride Heavies are going to step into the Octagon with a mystique of being practicaly unbeatable then be either beat or made to look average against a "Can" that the UFC lined up to be a highlight reel win. I almost don't want to see Fedor come to the UFC... I feel like they would throw him in the ring against a fighter with a sub .250 record who made his last appearance at a local armory and he would be made to look "average".


As far as the Tito v. Evans fight... I have never been a big fan of Tito's whole "act" leading up to fights, but I do respect him because for the most part he has been able to back the act up in the ring...
But who the F' is Rashad Evans to come out of that fight talking about being robbed and that he whipped on Tito.. The fight was only a draw because Tito had a point taken away.
Rashad hasn't beaten anyone worth talking about... and his "bigest name" win game against Stephan Bonnar (where he dry humped Stephan for 3 rounds in the most embarassing "Lay and Pray" win I've seen)

Yeah it had the potential to be card ot the year but was a let down.

He's the Sylvia of tjhe division, he trains to go the distance and fully intends to, he has no desire to finish, i'd also like to know what bullshit weight cutting he's doing since Mike Goldberg said he was probably 175 in there...

Blah! Big Nog has got his ass kicked before, he has a rep for it happening and still emerging victorious and hell he's beaten Herring twice before, he made on stupid mistake in the fight, aside from that MAJOR blip he dominated it no problem....

Don't get me wrong... Big Nog is an animal, but there is just something weird about they way ALL of them have come out in their first fight. If he fought Herring 10 more times he beats him all 10 times, and that kick doesn't happen in any of them.

I'm just trying to figure out if the cage vs. the ring is the reason that they all start slow in their first fight.
Hell even Rampages fight prior to Chuck... if  he fought Chuck that day Chuck would have mauled him. He looked real rusty against Eastman.

I know what you mean, before Big Nog's fight i had a funny feeling that he might fuck up.  Thing with Rampage is he'd been fighting rusty for years, Chuck really was his turn around fight.  I think with some it's the pressure of UFC being the big thing and these guys being hyped up so much.  Look at Anderson Silva, he came in quietly on a UFC Fight Night with little fanfare and he for the most part has been coasting.  Cro Cop though also admitted that he hadn't been training in a cage (he is now) which is just plain dumb.  I fully expect him to come back though, like i said he's been upset before and recovered.  What's annoying me in some of these fights though is the refs some biased sometimes towards the "Big Name".  The state Big Nog was in, most fighters in that position the referee would of stopped it he was so out of it.  Look at the Cro Cop fight, Cro Cop was getting his ass handed to him on the ground, there was PLENTY of activity but the ref stood 'em up which just looked like a shit way to protect him, but boy did that backfire...

The UFC scoring is complete bullshit in my opinion.

Boxing goes by 10 point scoring system partly cause their are so many rounds u need a way to keep track of who did what when so u don't overlook the first half of the fight and only remember the 2nd half.


With UFC, They dont need the boxing system, they need something else.


If u watch the fight, Tito did Everything in that fight. Rashad did 3 things the whole fight:

1. Landed the thumb on Tito
2. take down and a couple of punches at the end of the fight


For 14 minutes Tito controlled the entire fight and just cause Evans gets one takedown and a couple punches he gets a draw?


that would be like the NBA resetting the score after every other quarter and making whoever wins the most quarters the victor even if a team outscored someone by 20pts in one of the quarters.


Watch the fight from start to finish and it is clear that Tito won easily.



Fedor will lose in the UFC, He is good fighter but a fraud in a lot of ways. He beat Cro Cop which was his signature win but look at what happened to Cro Cop.


Fedor bleeds easily, gets taken down by good wrestlers and is only undefeated cause Pride doesn't allow elbows


A great Ground and pound wrestler would hand Fedor his ass.


Why else does Fedor fight for peanuts instead of the big UFC bank?

Rumour has it that UFC76 will be Shogun vs Forrest Griffin, i hope it's true, that would be an awesome fight.  Also it seems the plan for then is to Jardine vs Liddell.  Bit of a shame for Chuck, if he wins nobody cares because Jardine has little credibility at the moment and if he loses...he's in big trouble. :nervous:

I hope Forrest wins.

If Forrest beats Shogun, Pride lovers are gonna have to swallow it cause they won't have any more excuses.



NOG was suppose to be this amazing heavyweight and he got his ass saved in the Heath Herring fight cause that should've been stopped.

Cro Cop looked overrated

The only Pride Fighter that has lived up to the hype is Anderson Silva.


Rampage has Chuck's number but we will see how well he keeps doing.

I'd sayin' Rampage having Chuck number is living up to the hype.  Out of the 4 guys you mention Silva is 4-0, Big Nog 1-0, Rampage 2-0, Cro Cop 1-1.  Not bad, slate their performances all you want, there is 1 loss there :P

Sherk & Franca have BOTH failed drug tests, Sherk is appealing, but if not he's suspended til like June 2008, so it sounds like he could be stripped of the Gold....

I think everybody uses Roids in sports pretty much


I wasnt shocked at all with Sherk

Just look at the guy.


I think Fedor is a juicer also which is why he won't come to the UFC.

nah I think Sherk is innocent, sure the guy is stacked but I don't think hes the kind of guy who takes them.

The following is from the official MySpace Blog of UFC Lightweight champion "The Muscle Shark" Sean Sherk:

"At the present time I cannot explain the positive drug test in Sacramento California. I know I have never used any steroids or any other banned substances, I am investigating possible causes of my positive test with my attorney. I have never cheated, all of my success has come from hard work and dedication to my sport!"


I hope the rumour about Forrest vs Shotgun is true, I'd love to see that happen

:rofl:

No chance dude, just look at the guy, only strange thing is it's taken him so long to get caught.

UFC lightweight contender Tyson Griffin " having already been involved in two Fight of the Year candidates with Frankie Edgar and Clay Guida " confirmed Saturday he would be fighting undefeated Brazilian Thiago Tavares at UFC 76 Sept. 22 in Anaheim, Calif.

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Travis Lutter vs debutant Ryan Jensen has been added to the "Respect" card

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rumour is that UFC will be signing a deal with ESPN who are offering more airtime than Spike TV

CAPTAIN AMERICA WOOPED THAT STUPID BEANERS ASS



GSP KICKED THE SHIT OUTTA THAT FAGGOT WITH PUBES GROWING OUT OF HIS HEAD



AWSOME FIGHT  :beer: :smoking:

Randy in my opinion can beat Fedor.

So who was responsible for spilling all that blood on the mat?

^ David Heath got bust open big style.

Great event, shame we did not see any of the prelims, hopefully i'll fine 'em online, i'm happy Mir is winning again. :D

Well, well, well.  Quite an interesting event, i liked UFC 75.

Solid main event, really back and forth, both Henderson and Rampage looked impressive and i agreed with the judges.  Hendo definately got Round 1, 2nd was 50-50, and 3rd, 4th and 5th were Rampage's.  If Henderson goes down to the Middleweight Division he'll be a real force there, he should do to as that Division needs bulking up.

Bisping was dissapointing against Hamill.  How 2 judges and sherdog.com can give it to Bisping i don't know, i'm going to re-watch it tomorrow but i was with the 30-27 judge, Hamill controlled the whole fight, standing and on the ground, he took him down multiple times and did more damage.  Now i've read Bisping got the second round because he showed more aggression, all i saw was him being hyper and on edge whereas Hamill was cool, calm and collected.  Anyway rumours point to Bisping moving down to 185 and that's a DAMN good idea.  When the decision was announced his response and the crowds was not that of "Great Bisping wins!", it was "Holy Shit!  He's won? Great!".

Kongo vs Cro Cop was a bore and Cro Cop was really, really disappointing.

Davis vs Taylor was a superb action packed fight, loved it and both fighters did themselves proud, Davis' recovery was nothing short of amazing, sweet armbar to.

Houston Alexander looked impressive but i'm still not that convinved.  The dude hits heavy and has some hellacious knees but he looks clumsy and has a weak defence (evidenced against Jardine) the guy can just take a fair few shots but sooner or later against a more competent fighter he will get caught, still fun to watch though.

Jesse "The Joker" looked impressive again, the guy always looked happy and it's great to see someone who first applied to get in to the UFC in 1994 finally make it.

Overall solid card!  : ok:

Hamill got screwed plain and simple. that was an obvious rip job and Bisping won only cause it was in England.


Bisping won 2 rounds???

He didnt win 20 seconds of the entire fight in my opinion


Cro Cop is only fighting for a paycheck these days, He has no heart anymore or will to fight. They need to get rid of his ass immediately.

Rampage has really went to another level.

After the first round I thought he was in for a long night but he outwrestled the supposedly better wrestler.

Woah, we actually agree on everything for once.  Fact is at 205 Bisping and Hamill are both medicore, Hamill did fuck all when he was on the ground, he should of finished him.  At 205 guys like Rampage, Liddell, Henderson, Jardine, Shogun, Griffin, Ortiz, Evans, Machida, Houston, Wanderlai and probably some dudes i have forgotten are all ahead in the pecking order.  Bisping REALLY needs to drop down.

Cro Cop is on like $350,000 per fight or something which is a joke.  They tried to big up Kongo, Kongo is a horrid fighter, it wasn't anything to do with him improving it was Cro Cop being crap!

So for Rampage next, the winner of Shogun vs Forrest?  And then if he wins a few fights a rematch with Chuck...

I can't wait till Shogun vs Forrest, I've been wanting this fight for quite along time

Chuck is fighting Wanderlei Silva in November I have heard, So I say u are right Hammy, Griffin/Shogun winner gets Rampage and then the winner of that gets the SIlva/Liddell winner.

Not likely since he's fighting Jardine in 2 weeks, apart from the likes of Huerta most guys have like 3-4 months between fights.  I heard it was rumoured for the end of December and that was providing he beat Jardine without sustaining any real damage....

....be cool if we got that, seems they have a pretty cool rumoured New Years' Eve Show.

Chuck vs Wanderlai and Hughes vs Serra.

Me with UFC Fighter Jeff Monson

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Now theres a wrestler right there!
The one on the right!

This is what a friend sent to me:

In Newcastle's local newspaper the Evening Chronicle its got an article about how dangerous cage fighting is and that medical workers are trying to get it banned and stuff.

It also says that the UFC have been on a tour of England looking for places to hold future UFC events. One the places they liked was the MetroRadio Arena in Newcastle and a UK UFC (or someone) says that they are close to signing a contract and are hoping to come to Newcastle early to mid next year.

I hear March is when they want to have the show, the Arena holds around 11,000. It comes as a surprise to me as the Arena is not too highly thought of by many people.

I'm not complaining though since my College is 2minutes away from the Arena. I'm definatly there!

Awesome pic Stoned.? Congrats, that must have been amazing!!


UFC NIGHT FIGHT was incredible last night.


Nate Quarry vs Pete Sell was a war and Chris Leben vs Terry Martin had a CLASSIC finish. : ok:

Nate Diaz showed some amazing jiu Jitsu work.

Yeah in a bit of a Q&A session after the seminar Monson mentioned he's meant to be fighting in Newcastle against Arlovski, we were surprised, everyone was under the impression he was done with the UFC.

He was a really sound, humble guy, showed us a lot but as he said there are millions of techniques and probably a lot of us there could show him stuff.  And for such a big guy he is so smooth and fast on the ground, he's a superb grappler.  When questioned about the current UFC heavyweight division he mentioned how it's packed now and how Couture is a freak of nature to still be going at 44, and he definately won't be, also said Couture may not be the best but he's definately the smartest fighter.


Dude, i changed my name months ago, somebody else on the board has that moniker now :P :P

Just watched it today and that was a hellacious card, definately the best Fight Night card i've seen.  Pete Sell must be kicking himself, he looked to have Scott Smith beaten and he blew it, he owned Quarry for 2 rounds, and then he blew that to.....

....Diaz just showed that a Purple Belt in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu beats a Brown Belt in BJJ :yes:

Randy Couture, who has done a good job at picking upsets in recent fights on The Fight Network for recent UFC events is picking a few more upsets for tonight's "Knockout" event in Anaheim, California.

Couture picks his training partner from Xtreme Couture, Forrest Griffin, to upset arguably the number one 205 lb. fighter in the world - Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Not only that, Couture is claiming Griffin will win every round of the fight.

The other upset, if you want to call it that, is Couture going with Jon Fitch to top Welterweight sensation and Ultimate Fighter season one winner Diego Sanchez.

Couture's other picks include Tyson Griffin over Thiago Tavares (which could also be considered an upset) and Chuck Liddell to beat Keith Jardine.

Well this is the final card....

Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Chuck Liddell vs.  Keith Jardine
Light Heavyweight bout:  Mauricio Rua vs.  Forrest Griffin
Welterweight bout:  Diego Sanchez vs.  Jon Fitch
Light Heavyweight bout:  Kazuhiro Nakamura vs.  Lyoto Machida
Lightweight bout:  Tyson Griffin vs.  Thiago Tavares

Preliminary card
Lightweight bout:  Diego Saraiva vs.  Jeremy Stephens
Heavyweight bout:  Scott Junk vs.  Christian Wellisch
Lightweight bout:  Michihiro Omigawa vs.  Matt Wiman
177 lb. Catchweight bout:  Anthony Johnson vs.  Rich Clementi

My picks are in bold, i've not bothered predicting the prelims this time, they don't look to be in the same league as last times prelims...

Watched 76 streamed live. Awesome show.
I wont post anything until everyone else has viewed.

 :hihi: Boy were my picks shit!

Forrest was on fire, shows the kind of cardio machine he is considering he set a pace that pretty much killed Shogun.  Word is now Chuck is considering retirement :nervous: Shame his fight with Wanderlai will now be off...

He just didnt have an answer to the Deans leg kicks and right hands. Which is a suprise as its what Keith does.
Forrest was amazing, i watched his All Access show streamed online and the guy trains like 3 times a day and has one day off a week. On that day he even trained.
Fitch looked a monster and will be a contender in that division i am sure. I think Fitch and GSP will be an awesome matchup.

I cant get enough of MMA at the moment.